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Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry

Hi HJ. I noticed while reviewing the Grade I list that a Grade II* version will be forthcoming. In view of the error in the City Council's list (Dormer Cottage being incorrectly shown as Grade I-listed), you may want to check the National Heritage List for England database to verify the data on the Council list. At http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/advancedsearch.aspx, select Location > District/Unitary Authority/Borough > Coventry, then Grade > II* and ignore anything without "Listing" in the "Type" column. Incidentally I lived in Coventry for 3 years while at Warwick University, so am pleased to see these lists! Is a Grade II list planned in the future as well? Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll be sure to check them all against the English Heritage list before I move it to mainspace this time (it's currently at User:HJ/Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry). I can only assume that Dormer Cottage was a typo, but it's irritating because the council's PDF list is much easier to use than English Heritage's website. A grade II list is planned, but I'm debating how best to split it up (there are over 350)—any suggestions? Btw, it may be a bit of a distance for you, but we have occasional meetups and other Wikipedia-related things going on in Coventry, and we're getting together for a pint next on the 21st if you wanted to come along. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I faced a similar challenge when I came to do Grade II listed buildings in Brighton and Hove. As there are over 1,200 (!), I needed to work out the best way of splitting it and how many to include in each part-list. After much thought, and guidance from FLC regulars (although I have not yet presented any of the lists at FLC) and other list experts, this is what I did; hopefully some of this will be useful to you as well:
  • After facing problems with slow load times and exceeding the template capacity on Listed buildings in Worthing, which has about 200 entries, I decided that 100-125 was about the right number of entries for any list of this type.
  • The possible ways of splitting appeared to be: (a) by suburb/area; (b) by date of construction of the building; or (c) alphabetically. I dismissed (a) because listed buildings are so unevenly spread throughout Brighton and Hove, and some do not have a precise geographical identity - so that's no good if you are trying to assign it to one list or another. (b) is better, but again there is an uneven distribution of "ages", some buildings are of unknown or debatable age (what date should be used for buildings that have been rebuilt, significantly extended, changed their use etc.?), and most importantly having lists by date range is not particularly reader-friendly. So I went with (c)!
  • Then we have the problem of buildings with no name, which are only identified by their street address. My solution, which I offered on one of the talk pages (possibly WT:FLC) and which received general agreement, was to use the street address as the name: so for example 2 Boyce's Street counts as a "B".
  • This required quite a lot of pre-preparation, though, in the form of a big spreadsheet into which I dumped all of the records from the National Heritage List for England (luckily I like playing with spreadsheets!). I went down each row putting "A", "B" etc. in the first column based on the name of the building (if available) or the street name; then I assembled the entries for each letter into strict alphabetical order. So for example 2 Boyce's Street went between Boundary stone at Whitehawk Road and Brighton and Hove High School (Old Vicarage). Then I tried to find the best possible split so that each sub-list would have a similar number of records, none exceeded about 125, and letters were not split across two lists. Luckily the full list split quite neatly into 10 sub-lists: A–B, C–D, E–H, I–L, M, N–O, P–R, S, T–V and W–Z.
So in summary, that method requires a bit of spreadsheet work and data-sorting, but to be honest any method of splitting the list would need some preparation and fiddling around beforehand. Coventry would have similar problems to Brighton and Hove in the sense that its listed buildings are presumably grouped unevenly by geography (probably mostly in the city centre and Spon End, and possibly Binley and Ryton?) and age; so I would recommend a three-way alphabetical split.
One of these days I will get to one of the meetups, although probably one of the more southern ones. I'm hopeful there might be one in Brighton (or Hove!) in the future: there's quite a few appropriate venues around the city. I was in Manchester on the same weekend as one last year, but sadly it clashed with the other meeting I was up there for. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:03, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for advice. It'll probably be a while before I get to the grade IIs, but when I do, I'll be sure to dig this out of my archives! You're definitely right about the geographical distribution—all of Spon Street, parts of Upper Spon Street, and most of Allesley Old Road are grade II listed. Along with a so-named "quadrangle" that is actually a semi-circle, but alas, if I wanted something easy, I would have done Wolverhampton! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on getting the List of field marshals of the British Army up to featured list status. While the List of British Army full generals which I am currently working on is a long way off featured list status, any help you can provide in improving it would be welcomed. Greenshed (talk) 21:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The field marshals list was a labour of love, and I suspect this will be even more so. Heathcote was invaluable with the field marshals, so if you can find anything even remotely similar, it would make your life much easier. If not, you're reliant on the London Gazette, and their OCR isn't great once you start going back more than a hundred years or so. But all that is manageable, albeit tedious. Where you might struggle at FLC is in writing (or at least sourcing) a few paragraphs of prose. I'll look in on it when I get chance and see if I can offer a hand. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

AE appeal by Hearfourmewesique

Hello HJ. Please see this appeal at Wikipedia:AE#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Hearfourmewesique. You commented in the original ban discussion in December, 2011 so you may have an opinion on whether to grant his appeal now. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Ed, I've left a comment there. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Operation Barras

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Great work with this article. Nick-D (talk) 22:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Nick. Glad you liked it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:25, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Coventry

Hi HJ – sorry for not getting back to conclude my review more quickly; I was hoping to do it today, but got distracted by other things online (silly YouTube videos, mainly!). I have looked at the List a couple of times since you made the recent alterations, and I couldn't see anything obvious that would prevent me capping my comments and Supporting; I will have a proper, in-depth look tomorrow, either at lunchtime or when I get home from work, and continue/conclude my review then. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Much obliged! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Mail

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Dannatt

G'day HJMitchell, I noticed that you blanked a new section of the Richard Dannatt, Baron Dannatt article. Your edit summary indicated that it didn't need its own section, not that it was inappropriate or otherwise unwiki. The text was sourced and I am about to restore the information into an appropriate section. Please engage on the article talk page if you believe that inclusion of this material is contrary to WP policy. Regards, Peacemaker67 (talk) 23:20, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I don't vehemently object to it being in the article. I'd rather wait a few weeks to see whether something comes of it or it just blows over, but it's not worth getting het up about. I do object to it being given its own section (that's clearly undue weight, as it gives it the same prominence as his ten-year tenure as a general, which is what he's notable for), and I object to the journalistic tone, but I see you've fixed the former, and the latter just requires a few minutes' copy-editing. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:31, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Happy with that. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Clarke

OK. I put him up for A-Class review. Thanks for the suggestion :) --Errant (chat!) 09:45, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I saw. I'll see if I can find time to give him a decent review over the next week or so, but I doubt there'll be any major problems. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:33, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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Page move

Are you still around? If so, could you please move User:JuneGloom07/Priya Kapoor to Priya Kapoor for me? - JuneGloom Talk 23:01, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. Even I'm not brave enough to be sat in Wehterspoon's after midnight! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
You have mail. - JuneGloom Talk 19:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

ArbCom RfC

Hi HJ, quick question - since the abortion RfC at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is sanctioned by an ArbCom case of which I was a party, am I able to participate in it? Thanks! Instaurare (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm tempted to say "if you have to ask...". However, you can participate iff you personally, your conduct, or your actions become the subject of discussion (for example if you had moved one of the pages, and that page move was being discussed) or if an editor in good standing explicitly asks you to comment on a particular issue. However, I would advise you very strongly to find something else to do, and take it off your watchlist. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
How about I simply write my !vote, without referring to any arguments of other users, and then leave without any further discussion? Instaurare (talk) 20:41, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
No. I think introducing shades of grey into black-and-white conditions would be unwise. I'll make exceptions for cases where you're specifically addressed or your input is requested, but not just because you want to contribute your two cents. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Rollbacker

Hi HJ...SlimVirgin has restored my rollbacker ability and says she consulted you first. I want to let you know I'll do whatever I can to never abuse the tool again. Best wishes...--MONGO 23:45, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I told Slim that I had no objections provided you used the tool properly, and that I probably can't claim to be an uninvolved admin after weighing in on 9/11 conspiracy theories last year, but thanks for letting me know. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Precious

historic events and people
Thank you for quality articles on historic events and people, such as Iranian Embassy siege, and for voicing support for an "overwhelmingly constructive contributor ... quietly making improvements to articles", - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (27 July 2010 and 16 January 2011)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
That's very kind; thank you. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

An idea to improve the ArbCom body

A very good start would involve your candidacy for the upcoming election. I can understand why you might not wish to run, but I can also hope that you will. 76Strat String da Broke da (talk) 06:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Ha! I think they'd all resign in protest if I was elected (though that might actually be a reason to stand!), but I have no ambitions for such lofty heights—the bureaucracy and policy wonkery is best left to those who enjoy such things. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:37, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for that response. It was not an ambition or a misapplied presumption of enjoyment that moved me to ask this of you, but rather a recognition of your character and the strengths you would bring if you did choose the harder option. My regards here are applicable to you as well, and they extend on the reasons I am thankful that you did consider it. Cheers. - 76Strat String da Broke da (talk) 07:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Biology Society Wikipedia Training

Hi HJ Mitchell, just wondered if you could possible make an award for everyone's home page who attended the training we received at the Biology Society training on the 29 Aug at Charles Darwin house? I thought this might be a good tool to encourage more women to take part in wikipedia and keep contributing. I just thought about this as I took part in the Ada Lovelace Wikipedia edit-a-thon and they added certificates to everyones page afterwards. Let me know what you think. --Geneticcuckoo (talk) 16:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I lack the ability to create one myself, but you might like to use {{subst:The Real Life Barnstar|message ~~~~}}. Just copy that (the rendered text, not the wikicode) and replace "message" with a thank you note or something similar. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:41, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Henk Rottinghuis

Hi HJ Mitchell. I'm contacting you with regards to your deletion of the Henk Rottinghuis Wikipedia article. Although you listed 'unambiguous advertising' as one of the reasons for deleting the article, there is a huge amount of salvageable content. At the very least the article can be rewritten as it is supported by a number of independent references. I have added this case to the Wikipedia Deletion Review page and it would be good to hear your feedback so that we can reach an amicable solution. Thanks, Vivj2012 (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

While I'm pleased to see that you're declaring your interest upfront and trying to work within Wikipedia policy, that article was full of puffery and sourced entirely to primary sources. There was no indication that the subject was notable (ie has been written about other than on his own website and the websites of organisations with which he is affiliated) or that the article existed for nay reason other than to promote the subject. You're welcome to pursue the deletion review process, but I stand by my original decision. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Closing the Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles RfC

Hello HJ, I was wondering if you would consider wrapping up some unfinished business: Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles#Closing this RfC. I know it's not a pleasant task, but it would be nice to have some closure at least. Cheers. Kaldari (talk) 00:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Grade II* listed buildings in Coventry

The DYK project (nominate) 16:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, HJ Mitchell. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Coventry.
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Suggested merge with Template:Did you know nominations/Vignoles Bridge Redtigerxyz Talk 17:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with them as they are, but if you really want to merge them, go ahead. I'm going to be without an Internet connection in a few hours for probably a couple of days. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:20, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012

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DYK for Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Coventry

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DYK for Vignoles Bridge

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ArbCom RfC - resumed

Hi HJ, quick question - since the abortion RfC at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage is sanctioned by an ArbCom case of which I was a party, am I able to participate in it? Thanks! Instaurare (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm tempted to say "if you have to ask...". However, you can participate iff you personally, your conduct, or your actions become the subject of discussion (for example if you had moved one of the pages, and that page move was being discussed) or if an editor in good standing explicitly asks you to comment on a particular issue. However, I would advise you very strongly to find something else to do, and take it off your watchlist. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
How about I simply write my !vote, without referring to any arguments of other users, and then leave without any further discussion? Instaurare (talk) 20:41, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
No. I think introducing shades of grey into black-and-white conditions would be unwise. I'll make exceptions for cases where you're specifically addressed or your input is requested, but not just because you want to contribute your two cents. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to resume this a week later. With respect HJ, I ask that you reconsider. Our agreement stated that you would review the conditions after six months. I am now in month five of my conditional return. It's my understanding that ArbCom cases may be participated in without regard to blocks or conditions. But I do not want to do anything without your permission. Aside from one slip-up at Family Research Council, I think you will find that my record is clean, and I have edited with restraint in problematic topic areas. Also, I was a major party in the ArbCom case. I ask that you take these into consideration, and allow me an exception to simply voice my !vote, and then withdraw from the discussion. If my !vote is problematic, you may delete it at any time and impose additional sanctions. Thanks for your consideration. Instaurare (talk) 17:20, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

FAC

I have provided a review for Operation Barras, which you had nominated for FAC. May I request you a review here in return? Cambalachero (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I Need You

To unlock the Rainbow Dash article and any other MLP character articles that are locked as redirects. The notion that they are not notable is absolutely absurd, and I am going to give them the articles they deserve. In general, there are going to be some big changes around here regarding "notability" especially as it pertains to fictional characters.

While you're at it, also unlock Slender Man for me as well, please.

ResonX (talk) 01:44, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. You seem to have missed me. Please let me edit Rainbow Dash. ResonX (talk) 18:19, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

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YGM

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Clarke

Howdy! I've pinged Clarke back to FAR if you fancy commenting there :) cheers --Errant (chat!) 14:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll be sure to take a look; I can't imagine it's deteriorated since the ACR, so I'll likely support. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Italian embassy siege

The move seemed plausible at the time, but you seem to be right. It was another editor who suggested it, so I notified them, if they want to pursue it. Thanks for catching my error DGG ( talk ) 19:13, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Tired?

I see that you're not around as much as you used to be. A pity. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Harry has probably been heavily involved in activities for Wikipedia that do not necessarily increase his edits to the site. It happens to many of us occasionally. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:56, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I hadn't thought of that possibility, but from what I know of him it's likely. However, 1001 days crop up far less often in the logs. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:01, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
I don't have an Internet connection at the moment (except the WiFi in the local Wetherspoon's), so I'm not ever so active. I've also been focusing more on the mainspace than on admin stuff when I've been on WP, and I've been more active over on Commons. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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Third Reading Wiki Meetup

You are invited to the third Reading Wiki Meetup which will take place at The Hope Tap, 99-105 Friar Street, Reading RG1 1EP on Sunday 20 January 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Berkshire related topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy (talk) 02:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Awarded Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all your contributions and hard work on the encyclopedia, I am pleased to present HJ Mitchell with this Tireless Contributor Barnstar. — Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 06:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

GAR

Speed Demon (song), an article that your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article.--Tomcat (7) 18:15, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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Only warning ?

Sorry ! Because the individual that issued the only warning wasn't a sysop, I didn't think it carried any weight, as only sysops can block. I'll keep that in mind next time!  KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ...  19:54, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Laptop

Harry, any idea where my bag containing my laptop has gone?? I'm sure it was in the corner with all the shopping in the Ship & Mitre but after you lot had left it was gone. Did anyone take it by mistake? Bazonka (talk) 22:55, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

We've just found it (at Brian's). Email me your phone number and we'll sort something. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Phew! I'll try to pick it up tomorrow if I can. Thanks! Bazonka (talk) 23:16, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Email me your phone number anyway—Doug thinks your place might be vaguely on or route home so we could drop it off tomorrow afternoon. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:23, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Got it! Thanks for helping with this. I was staying at my father-in-law's house in Wallasey last night, so not really on your way, and easier for me to collect. I think I only missed you by about 15 minutes this morning. Bazonka (talk) 13:25, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, glad you got it back. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

deletion of Timothy Ball

Hi. In Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 January 3 you invited further comment. I'm not volunteering to rewrite the article, but I recently observed that in The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars, page 95, Michael E. Mann writes "Tim Ball is perhaps the most prominent climate change denier in Canada ..." Does this suggest that the notability decision should be reconsidered? SamuelTheGhost (talk) 14:26, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

"hothead"

I've kind of resigned myself to not faring well in the voter's guides, but yours surprised me. Can you show me a few examples of where I come across as a "hothead"? I do my best to keep my temper in check at all times, and I'd like to see where I come across as angry. I'll readily confess to occasionally being completely disgusted with the state of affairs around me .—Kww(talk) 14:53, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I must confess I've always known hothead to mean something comparable to 'shoot first, ask questions later', which is what I was trying to convey in my guide. I wasn't familiar with the other (apparently more common) definition "One who angers easily". I've lawys thought the former to be a useful trait, especially given some of the areas I've seen you working in, but I think arbitrators need to have a more reflective style. That's not to say I don't think you're a bloody good admin, just that I don't think you'd be best suited to being an arb. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:25, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012

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Protection of Talaash (2012 film)

You protected after I declined to do so a few hours earlier. You SUCK! You disgraceful pile of puke, I'm gonna drag you to ANI and get you desyssopped and banned!

No, seriously, the protection is under discussion for a third time at RFPP and I noticed nobody seemed to have let you know that one of your admin actions was being discussed. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:42, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear. Well I suppose there's not much I can do while desysopped and banned except prevail upon the mighty president of the galaxy for forgiveness. ;) But seriously, I hadn't seen your decline. Sorry. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
The galaxy is under discussion here. I vote for Beeb as president. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:08, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
I figured you hadn't seen the decline, it isn't exactly normal to request protection every few hours until you get the result you want. Thanks to both of you for your support by the way. I was extremely gratified to see how many of the voter guides even some that did not support me, used phrases like "no bullshit" and "cut the crap" to describe me. Even if I don't get in I will treasure those descriptions as that is exactly how I try to be. I'm sure you are both aware that sometimes it is hard to tell if anyone is noticing. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania

Hi Harry. Please check your Skype. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon

user Pvir1 Pvir1 (talk) 12:44, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello! JPaps1977 (talk) 12:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)JPaps1977~(Jordi Paps)

Coffin22 (talk) 12:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello Swish Pat (talk) 12:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Njkenny (talk) 13:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Njkenny

Cheers! Ukpg (talk) 13:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your help Aziz Aboobaker (talk) 14:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

HiBt261 (talk) 14:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi user:thomasbutts

Hello Euglossa (talk) 14:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello Protochordate (talk) 14:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Harry! Sara.mitri (talk) 14:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Coyte (talk) 14:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Heloooooooo. Aswad87 (talk) 14:51, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Olá Lontraazul (talk) 14:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Locustling (talk) 14:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey Kyle J Martin (talk) 14:57, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Also User:Atsukos, User:Zatelmae. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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Noticed...

Hi Harry. I noticed Microgrants/Who's_Who today. I know it was over a year ago, but I've got full access to http://www.ukwhoswho.com/ if you ever need anything from there. WormTT(talk) 12:24, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 December 2012

Fred Strahorn

Could you please unprotect Fred Strahorn and move Fred Strahorn (Ohio politician) to this name? The page was previously blocked because of creation by a banned user, but a legitimate article has now been created and it should be under Fred Strahorn. ProfessorTofty (talk) 04:52, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

DYKbotdo

Hi, I just wanted to point out that the bot prefixed your signature with "1=" and included double dates for all of the DYK credits from this set. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:19, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Oops. Shows how long it's been since I approved a DYK queue! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 December 2012

DYK nomination of British military intervention in the Sierra Leone Civil War

Hello! Your submission of British military intervention in the Sierra Leone Civil War at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Tartarus talk 02:20, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

KTC

You're supposed to support your own nominee. :-) And your co-nominator should, too. Cheers.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Don't blame me—I don't have an Internet connection (I wrote the nomination in a pub!)—but that Worm guy is dodgy. ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:07, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Heh, I wonder if that's why some say the RfA process is broken. Too many drunk nominators. :P Of course, the other possibility is there are too many sober nominators. Someone needs to compile statistics on the issue, or perhaps someone already has.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:10, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
I did a very detailed count. I left the notes in a bar. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 01:12, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

And one of these days I really will come to a Coventry event.

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Thanks, WSC. Look forward to catching up in the new year. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:05, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Need some help

I was hoping you could help me. I am in a conversation on the Battle of Jamrud, where another editor is taking certain conditions(ie. "...the immediate military objective of the Afghans was to retake Jamrud fort. They failed to retake it.") as reasoning to place Sikh victory(as opposed to Afghan victory or stalemate/indecisive) in the result part of the template. Is this customary in the military history section of wikipedia??

My other question is, doesn't the template result have to be supported by a reference stating Sikh victory, Afghan victory or Indecisive and not simply an editor's formulated opinion as to objectives gained/lost? --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:48, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I think the point of that infobox field is to summarise what happened—i.e. who won the engagement. Wider factors (such as whether one party achieved all its objectives or its impact on a wider conflict) are generally irrelevant. And yes, like all information on Wikipedia, facts in the infobox should be backed up with references. The references don't necessarily need to be in the infobox itself—as the box is supposed to be a summary, it's fine to provide the references in the prose unless the fact is likely to be questioned or disputed. That parameter has been controversial recently, so you might want to raise the issue at WT:MILHIST to see what others think. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:08, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:13, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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