User talk:Gorgonopsi
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October 2023
[edit]Hello, I'm Skitash. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Maghrebi Arabic, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Skitash (talk) 17:15, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Because it was common knowledge? I'll post the sources on the page. Gorgonopsi (talk) 10:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
November 2023
[edit]Please refrain from using talk pages such as Israel for general discussion of this or other topics. They are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways, based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines; they are not for use as a forum or chat room. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. See the talk page guidelines for more information. Thank you. Jeppiz (talk) 01:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- you misunderstood my comment..... Gorgonopsi (talk) 08:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Sjö. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Portugal, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sjö (talk) 18:11, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- I sent the constitution, what is more reliable than a countries own constitution??!?!?!? Gorgonopsi (talk) 18:23, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- First, please read WP:PRIMARY. Second, the constitution mentions socialism once and does not say that the type of government is socialist anything. Sjö (talk) 18:32, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
Anarchism
[edit]Hi Gorgonopsi,
I saw your work on articles related to anarchism and wanted to say hello, as I work in the topic area too. If you haven't already, you might want to watch our noticeboard for Wikipedia's coverage of anarchism, which is a great place to ask questions, collaborate, discuss style/structure precedent, and stay informed about content related to anarchism. Take a look for yourself!
And if you're looking for other juicy places to edit, consider expanding a stub, adopting a cleanup category, or participating in one of our current formal discussions.
Feel free to say hi on my talk page and let me know if these links were helpful (or at least interesting). Hope to see you around. czar 13:57, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Alrighty :) Gorgonopsi (talk) 09:59, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wa State
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Help
[edit]Hi Gorgonopsi! I noticed your work on List of historical unrecognized states and dependencies and I was wondering if you could help me with my article Draft:Short Lived States and Dependencies Pierce spacem (talk) 09:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely Gorgonopsi (talk) 15:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! can you add a descriptions column for Europe and start adding them. also check out this article User:States of the World/Draft Pierce spacem (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Euahlayi People's Republic moved to draftspace
[edit]Thanks for your contributions to Euahlayi People's Republic. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and 90% of the article is unsourced.. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
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Imgarri dialect moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, Imgarri dialect, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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February 2024
[edit]Hello, I'm Mlkj. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Edward Campbell (politician)—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Mlkj (talk) 16:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- if you read the article he was a nazi collaborator, you need to reread the article "The result installed Campbell as a puppet of the German administration," Is this not Nazi Collaboration? should we say that Petain was not a Nazi Collaborator? Gorgonopsi (talk) 16:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- You're right, I apologize for the wrong revert. I saw that you added and removed Category:British Fascists, and that looked like the sort of editing tests vandals do, but I should have read the article more closely. I apologize again! Mlkj (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of David Tully for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of David Tully
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Latin letter
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March 2024
[edit]Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Labour Party (UK), you may be blocked from editing. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Since you made your intention to insult me by threatening, you should actually have a go at the person that added it to this page
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Workers%27_Representation_Committee Gorgonopsi (talk) 15:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
The article Communist Party of Guernsey has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
No secondary sources, fails WP:ORGCRIT.
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- I will add more but you've got me just after my cat died so bare with me. Gorgonopsi (talk) 16:09, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to hear that, hope you are ok. It's a seven day process but it can always be moved to draftspace if necessary. AusLondonder (talk) 20:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- alright Gorgonopsi (talk) 21:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- It has now been deleted. I would suggest working on it in draftspace at Draft:Communist Party of Guernsey if you wish to re-create the article. AusLondonder (talk) 13:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- alright Gorgonopsi (talk) 21:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to hear that, hope you are ok. It's a seven day process but it can always be moved to draftspace if necessary. AusLondonder (talk) 20:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Political party infoboxes
[edit]Hello Gorgonopsi, I noticed you've been adding ideologies to political party infoboxes, like at Social Credit Party of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Party of Women. These edits have been reverted due to not having proper sources. Infoboxes should reflect the sourced information in the main article. When adding ideologies to infoboxes in the future, make sure the article also reflects this with accompanying sources. AlexandraAVX (talk) 18:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- its a dialect of maltese. Gorgonopsi (talk) 08:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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Communist Party of Britian ballot symbol
[edit]Hi, I saw you reverted my edit claiming it's the wrong symbol, could you provide a source?
As I have an article from the BBC regarding a purple ballot that just happens to show the Hammer & Dove on the paper
Also, the file you added no longer exists.
Also also, the article itself states that the Hammer & Dove is the main ballot logo
Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgyd47dwgzo Catalyst GP real (talk) 16:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://x.com/JohnMasonMSP/status/1804479200994234436 Gorgonopsi (talk) 17:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ooh, alright that's interesting. I don't about you, but I think as a compromise it's best to display both especially since the article mentions the hammer & sickle also being used.
- I'll work on a vector of the Hammer & Sickle now. Catalyst GP real (talk) 18:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- sure, Gorgonopsi (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- we are actually getting rid of the hammer and dove and replacing it with another logo as voted on last congress Gorgonopsi (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- sure, Gorgonopsi (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:Political parties of minorities in Canada has been nominated for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Duma Polska
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Nomination of Pantherism for deletion
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Hi. Changes to categorisation (just as anything else) should be verifiable (per WP:CATV). And changes to categorisation (just as anything else) should be explained (per WP:ES).
I have reverted several of your changes (as, I note, have other editors) which added "regional" political parties in the UK to the category of parties representing "minorities". If you feel that people from the north of England, or the Shetland islands or Scotland (or women for that matter) are somehow a "minority", then please provide references and explanation for those changes. (In what sense are these groups "minorities" - whether in their own localities or the UK as a whole or in Europe as a whole?)
Otherwise, absent a reference or other justification to support these changes, it doesn't seem reasonable to suggest that all "regional" political parties are (de facto) representative of "minority" groups.... Guliolopez (talk) 13:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Orcadians aswell as northern english in these parties identifying as Northumbrian the criteria i was mostly using was representing one specific group of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorgonopsi (talk • contribs) 13:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. In terms of:
- WP:CATV, the "
Categorization of articles must be verifiable [and] It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories
". There is nothing in the Women's Equality Party article or the Northern Independence Party which describes women or Northumbrians as a "minority". Or describes either party as representing a minority. - WP:CATDESC, if the title of the category isn't enough to identify what its members should include, the "
desired contents of the category should be described on the category page, similar to how the list selection criteria are described in a stand-alone list
". While the categories you are adding (and creating) do not do this, the word "minority" does NOT simply mean "one specific group of people". (People who like Taylor Swift are a "specific group of people". That doesn't make them a minority group.) - WP:CATDEF, articles should not be categorised arbitrarily. Categorisation would ideally be based on a "
defining characteristic [..which..] reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to in describing the topic
". The approach you describe (applying your own broad interpretation of what "minority" means) doesn't appear to align with this conventiom.
- WP:CATV, the "
- If, as seems to be the case, you plan to continue creating and populating these categories, I would recommend that you raise a thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. And perhaps seek input on the approach (with consideration to the related guidelines) before mass-moving or mass-adding categories. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 13:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I notice that you continue to create "Political parties of minorities in [country X]" type categories. And to populate those (and existing) categories with organisations that do not appear to represent minorities and organisations that do not appear to be political parties. As above, I have opened a related thread at 'Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics'. Your input is more than welcome. Guliolopez (talk) 12:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Indigenismo or minority ethnic groups are ones that are of minorities. Gorgonopsi (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would contend that not all indigenous groups are "minorities". Ethnic Bavarians are not a minority in Bavaria for example. Or people from the North of England in the North of England. In my own opinion, regionalist/nativist/separatist/nationalist parties do not (almost to the reverse of your own logic) represent "minorities". As above, please consider providing input in the related discussion. So that a clear inclusion criteria can be agreed. And perhaps confirmed with related WP:CATDESCs. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 13:11, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bavarians are Catholic whom are a minority group in germany whom some do consider seperate, including wikipedia Bavarians. Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- To confirm, that Wikipedia article does NOT describe Bavarians as a "minority". Not in Bavaria. Nor anywhere else in Germany. Guliolopez (talk) 14:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- they also speak Bavarian language, You don't have the worlds oldest kingdom up until the 1918 without developing your own culture. I'm not Bavarian but Wikipedia still seems to retain that bavaria is a seperate identity. Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:51, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- What is it about "developing your own culture" or "speaking your own language" would make you (or me) a "minority"? In your (or my) own country? Japan has its own culture and language. It doesn't make Japanese people a minority - certainly not in Japan. Why would Bavarians be considered a minority in Bavaria? Regardless, and as already highlighted, WP:CATV and WP:CATDEF expect that categorisation be based on clear and verifiable information in the article, ideally represent a defining characteristic of the topic and be supported by reliable sources - that commonly and consistently refer to the characteristic when describing the topic. None of that is the case for your classification of the Bavaria Party as a "political party of a minority in Germany". Please continue this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. I won't respond further here. Guliolopez (talk) 14:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bavarians are considered a Minority within Germany. i don't see how that was hard to grasp. that the majority of Germans aren't Bavarian. Gorgonopsi (talk) 16:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Prove it. Bring your sources to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. (Potentially including reliable sources which commonly and consistently refer to Bavarians or "right-wing extremist" Saxons as "minority groups" within Germany, Northerners or women or feminists as minorities in England, and vegetarians or Italian-American fascists as "minority groups" within the US. And/or, ideally, sources which describe any of the related political organisations as ones which represent minorities in those countries). As noted by several editors, secessionist, nationalist, ethnocentrist, indigenist or special interest groups do not automatically represent "minorities". Especially where the group in question is, arguably, in a majority in the region in which the organisation is based. Guliolopez (talk) 16:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- they were made for the interests of certain minority group. even if I personally disagree with these right wing groups the inclusion criteria. also since you've requested me to prove that the majority of germans aren't bavarians. The Bavarian language is spoken by around 15 Million and considered a vulnerable Language. the population of Germany is 82,719,540 so to claim that Bavarians constitute a majority of Germans is purely ludicrous on your end. Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. RE:
- "
The Bavarian language is spoken by around 15 Million and considered a vulnerable Language. the population of Germany is 82,719,540 so [Bavarians are a minority]"
. That is not a reliable reference. That is original research. Please provide a reliable reference which describes the Bavaria Party as representing a minority. - "
to claim that Bavarians constitute a majority of Germans is purely ludicrous on your end
". I did not claim that "Bavarians constitute a majority [in Germany]". Or anything like it. But several parties, which you have classified as representing minorities, state that they represent groups which other articles describe as a majority. (Like the National Democratic Party in Namibia, which states that it "[had its base] amongst the Ovambo people". Which the linked article describes as the "single largest ethnic group in Namibia, accounting for about half of the population". How, by any measure, is the "single largest ethnic group" a minority? And how do the article/body/references/context support the classification of the National Democratic Party as a "political party of a minority in Namibia".) - "
purely ludicrous on your end
". Please read WP:CIVIL.
- "
- Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 23:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- having its base amongst the Ovambo people implies quite clearly, that it was primarily for their interests. Gorgonopsi (talk) 11:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- also its reliable enough for wikipedia https://www.ethnologue.com/language/bar/
- https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/germany-population/ Gorgonopsi (talk) 11:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I am copying this to the thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. And continuing the discussion there. Guliolopez (talk) 10:01, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- having its base amongst the Ovambo people implies quite clearly, that it was primarily for their interests. Gorgonopsi (talk) 11:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. RE:
- they were made for the interests of certain minority group. even if I personally disagree with these right wing groups the inclusion criteria. also since you've requested me to prove that the majority of germans aren't bavarians. The Bavarian language is spoken by around 15 Million and considered a vulnerable Language. the population of Germany is 82,719,540 so to claim that Bavarians constitute a majority of Germans is purely ludicrous on your end. Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Prove it. Bring your sources to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. (Potentially including reliable sources which commonly and consistently refer to Bavarians or "right-wing extremist" Saxons as "minority groups" within Germany, Northerners or women or feminists as minorities in England, and vegetarians or Italian-American fascists as "minority groups" within the US. And/or, ideally, sources which describe any of the related political organisations as ones which represent minorities in those countries). As noted by several editors, secessionist, nationalist, ethnocentrist, indigenist or special interest groups do not automatically represent "minorities". Especially where the group in question is, arguably, in a majority in the region in which the organisation is based. Guliolopez (talk) 16:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bavarians are considered a Minority within Germany. i don't see how that was hard to grasp. that the majority of Germans aren't Bavarian. Gorgonopsi (talk) 16:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- What is it about "developing your own culture" or "speaking your own language" would make you (or me) a "minority"? In your (or my) own country? Japan has its own culture and language. It doesn't make Japanese people a minority - certainly not in Japan. Why would Bavarians be considered a minority in Bavaria? Regardless, and as already highlighted, WP:CATV and WP:CATDEF expect that categorisation be based on clear and verifiable information in the article, ideally represent a defining characteristic of the topic and be supported by reliable sources - that commonly and consistently refer to the characteristic when describing the topic. None of that is the case for your classification of the Bavaria Party as a "political party of a minority in Germany". Please continue this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. I won't respond further here. Guliolopez (talk) 14:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bavarians are Catholic whom are a minority group in germany whom some do consider seperate, including wikipedia Bavarians. Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would contend that not all indigenous groups are "minorities". Ethnic Bavarians are not a minority in Bavaria for example. Or people from the North of England in the North of England. In my own opinion, regionalist/nativist/separatist/nationalist parties do not (almost to the reverse of your own logic) represent "minorities". As above, please consider providing input in the related discussion. So that a clear inclusion criteria can be agreed. And perhaps confirmed with related WP:CATDESCs. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 13:11, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Indigenismo or minority ethnic groups are ones that are of minorities. Gorgonopsi (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I notice that you continue to create "Political parties of minorities in [country X]" type categories. And to populate those (and existing) categories with organisations that do not appear to represent minorities and organisations that do not appear to be political parties. As above, I have opened a related thread at 'Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics'. Your input is more than welcome. Guliolopez (talk) 12:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. In terms of:
Take just a handful of your edits today... what minority does the Independent Guanacaste Party represent? Or Winaq? Or the Peruvian Nationalist Party? --Soman (talk) 00:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Historically Native Americans. whom are a minority within south american countries. Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Literally you posted a native american name of a party that is indigenist yet cant join the dots Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- The point here is that indigenist parties where the majority are indigenous aren't minority parties. --Soman (talk) 14:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- You do not seem to understand what indigenismo is. its an ideology of Indigenous Liberation, it refers to the pursuit of greater social and political inclusion for indigenous peoples in Latin America. Ethnocacerism is Indigenous Ethnonationalism. Gorgonopsi (talk) 15:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- The point here is that indigenist parties where the majority are indigenous aren't minority parties. --Soman (talk) 14:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Literally you posted a native american name of a party that is indigenist yet cant join the dots Gorgonopsi (talk) 13:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
October 2024
[edit]Hello, I'm Remsense. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Dynasty, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Remsense ‥ 论 16:25, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Category:Apartheid States has been nominated for deletion
[edit]Category:Apartheid States has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. CMD (talk) 10:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Coup d'état template
[edit]Hello, none of the two items that you added to {{Coup d'état}} made it past the planning stage: if they were foiled or abandoned before they made it past the planning stage, they should be in {{Plots and conspiracies}} instead. --Minoa (talk) 09:27, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
WP:CATV
[edit]Per WP:CATV, categories added to articles must be verifiable in the article body. You created Category:Political parties of minorities in China and have been adding it to multiple articles without adding additional context or sources. It appears to me that you are using your exclusive definition of what a minority might be in China and its claimed territories.
For example, adding the category to the articles of political parties in Macau is non-sensical because they do not represent the minority in the Macau SAR. Who exactly is the minority? Macau is made up of mostly Han Chinese, like in Mainland China. Cantonese speakers are the majority in Macau, and although they are the minority in Mainland China, the Macau parties do not run in elections on the mainland. That is why you will not find reliable sources describing the parties as "parties of minorities". If you do not cite such sources, you cannot add the category with terminology you coined to articles. Yue🌙 22:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Yue and @Gorgonopsi, this is very similar to the concern that I had raised above and at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#"political parties of minorities". That, absent references to support WP:CATV and/or a WP:CATDESC that more firmly establishes what constitutes a minority (in a political sense), these categories are (to my mind) being applied arbitrarily and subjectively. Almost to the point that just about ANY type of group has/can be classified as a minority. (Pensioners in England? Minority. Women in the UK? Minority. Bavarian nationalists? Minority. Single largest ethnic group in Namibia? Minority. Religious people in Switzerland? Minority. Right-wing, secessionist or regionalist groups anywhere? Minority.) @Gorgonopsi - Multiple editors have raised concerns about the approach taken here - and yet you persist with this broad and (clearly) contentious categorisation. Can you consider taking in the feedback please? Guliolopez (talk) 10:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Category:Political parties of minorities in China has been nominated for deletion
[edit]Category:Political parties of minorities in China has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Yue🌙 22:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- While alot of these are now defunct, they still exist. Gorgonopsi (talk) 08:44, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Gorgonopsi, why have you added a whole lot of regionalist parties to these categories? For example Savoy Region Movement? Also other non-party organisations such as Bahrain Freedom Movement? AusLondonder (talk) 12:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Savoy Region is for the Arpitan people, Bahrain Freedom Movement is for Baharna living in United Kingdom] Gorgonopsi (talk) 12:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- The Bahrain Freedom Movement is not a political party though. I can't see anything to support the claim the Savoy Region Movement represents a minority, either. What about the Labour Muslim Network? Again, not a political party. AusLondonder (talk) 12:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)