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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (August 21)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:
This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Baris Tursun, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:59, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:59, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

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Hello Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. This is regarding Baris Tursun. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

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I am employed and work for the University of Hamburg for the Department of Biology as an employee in the media service, which can be seen from my name. https://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/service/medienservice/mitarbeiter-medienservice.html Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 10:04, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the way to disclose your paid editing status. The disclosure has to be made either on your user page, or on the talk page of every article to which your paid-editing status pertains, or preferably both. And it needs to be formatted using an appropriate template. The instructions are provided in the message I posted above earlier. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me, I don't quite understand what I have to do. a) I am not paid for posting a specific article, but I am permanently employed in the media service of the University of Hamburg, where I am responsible for, among other things, public relations tasks (See link above), which include maintaining Wikipedia entries that are of public interest. b) I don't understand exactly what I have to enter in which place in this regard. The link "paid" is not appropriate from my point of view, since I am not paid separately for the individual article, but work on it as part of my employment. I wonder if you can help me again please? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 07:55, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You do come under our paid-editing rules if you are writing about your employer, even if you're not being paid explicitly to edit Wikipedia.
Would it help if I add the appropriate disclosures to your user page and the article talk page for you? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:03, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please. Then can you give me a link to the entries? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 11:19, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have now added these to your user page User:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio and to the sandbox draft's talk page User talk:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio/sandbox. Please check that you are happy with both, and let me know if not. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:22, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much that is so right Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 08:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Baris Tursun (August 30)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Qcne was:
The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Editor: many paragraphs still have no in-line citations. Carefully read WP:INCITE.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Qcne (talk) 09:39, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the input. The article is an adaptation of an existing article on the German Wikipedia pages, which was also approved in this structure. (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baris_Tursun). I would like to add more links to the article, but I don't see any place that is not referenced. Can you please tell me in which specific statements you are missing a referencing. Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 14:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For example, the 'Career' section has five paragraphs, only one of which has citations, therefore the other four are unreferenced. As a bare minimum, at least one citation should be included in each paragraph, and a paragraph should also end in a citation. If the paragraph is long, or contains potentially contentious or sensitive statements, then those statements must be supported with an immediate citation. Basically, the reader should never have to ask "where did this information come from". This is a key requirement for any article, but especially one on a living person (see WP:BLP).
Also just to say that whether an article on this topic was accepted into the German-language Wikipedia is neither here nor there, as each language version is a completely separate project with their own policies and guidelines. The English-language one has the strictest referencing and notability requirements of any (that I'm aware of, at least), therefore it is not at all unusual that an article is accepted into another language version, but the same article with the same referencing is not accepted into the English one. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:56, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for pointing that out, I understand. Before I revise the article, I have another question: I have received a message that another article on "Baris Tursun" has already been submitted before mine and is waiting for review. To save time, this one should be considered and not mine. Can you tell me the status of this article and who submitted it? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 07:51, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is very odd – where, when and how did you receive such a message? And do you know who it was from? I can find no record of a pending draft, or a recently accepted or deleted one, that includes either of the names (Baris or Tursun) in the title. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Oh, I'm referring here to the English-language Wikipedia, of course. Did you mean another language version, perhaps? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This / quoted:
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:
This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Baris Tursun, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.
DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:59, 21 August 2023 (UTC) Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 10:39, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah okay, now I understand. I hadn't realised that there were two drafts, and couldn't find the other as it's in your sandbox and not in the Draft: namespace.
  • It seems that an unregistered IP editor from the UHH (don't know if that was you?) created Draft:Baris Tursun on 24 March, and it was declined on 12 July.
  • A month later, on 17 August, you created a new draft in your sandbox at User:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio/sandbox, and submitted it for review on 21 August. I declined it straight away, on the basis of the earlier draft (we cannot have multiple drafts on the same topic).
  • You then appear to have abandoned the sandbox draft, and instead resubmitted, on 30 August, Draft:Baris Tursun, but it was declined.
If you don't plan to develop the sandbox draft further, we should delete the content so that it doesn't cause similar confusion in the future. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:08, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is written in my "Talk" in the English Wikipedia Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 11:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I did not submit a draft for Baris Tursun on March 24. That must have been a possible colleague of mine. How can we proceed with this? Can we continue to work on my submission? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 11:28, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse my ignorance. It is my first Wikipedia entry. I thought the sandbox is the working version from which I can constantly correct and adjust the version to be edited. If I delete the sandbox, how can I find my version and continue editing? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 11:37, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So just to be clear, you want to continue developing the sandbox draft, not the Draft:Baris Tursun one? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I only know my sandbox draft, which I find under "Sandbox" and have kept editing. Where do I find "Draft:Baris Tursun one" - is that another version I submitted or someone else? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 11:59, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You resubmitted Draft:Baris Tursun last week. That's part of the reason why I'm confused as to which draft you now wish to work on going forward. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please take the one that is currently in the sandbox. I will revise it according to your requirements. Mich wundert, warum zwei Artikel von mir eingereicht sind. When I have revised the article in terms of the desired links, I just print on Publish and write a message - is that right? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 12:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When you have finished editing and want the draft to be reviewed for publication, you click on the blue 'resubmit' button, which submits it for review at AfC. It can take quite a while for it to be reviewed, though, as we have currently over 4,000 pending drafts in the system.
I should perhaps warn you, though, that if the author of the other draft (or indeed, any other user who wishes to edit it) submits it before you do, it may be accepted. I don't know how much of a risk that is, given that the IP editor hasn't been working on it for almost six months, and may have abandoned it. Just thought I ought to mention this possibility. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank You! Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 12:49, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you again for your help. The article has now been updated with additional links and resubmitted. If anything is still not right, please let me know. Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 11:40, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You write: "Comment: The information contained within this draft should be merged with Draft:Baris Tursun and then that draft submitted for consideration. Dan arndt (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2023 (UTC)"
My question: How can I merge my new article (Baris Tursund 2), with the required links added, with the first article. So that only one article (Baris Tursund 2) is still submitted for review. Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 12:35, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On 13 September, I had changed my article according to your suggestions. Since I have not received any feedback so far, I would like to ask if this is the right way to go, or if there is still something I need to do to get the article approved and published? Many thanks and greetings. Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 08:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Baris Tursun 2 has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Baris Tursun 2. Thanks! DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:15, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Baris Tursun 2 (September 13)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Baris Tursun, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
The information contained within this draft should be merged with Draft:Baris Tursun and then that draft submitted for consideration.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Dan arndt (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You write: "Comment: The information contained within this draft should be merged with Draft:Baris Tursun and then that draft submitted for consideration. Dan arndt (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2023 (UTC)"
My question: How can I merge my new article (Baris Tursund 2), with the required links added, with the first article. So that only one article (Baris Tursund 2) is still submitted for review. Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 12:35, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Baris Tursun has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Baris Tursun. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 11:20, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is a copy of the German version, but the links are adapted to the requirements of the English Wikipedia. What specifically do I have to do with the submission to meet its requirements? Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio (talk) 10:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Baris Tursun 2 (January 20)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ldm1954 was:
This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Baris Tursun 2, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
As previously stated, please merge everything in this to Draft:Baris Tursun and then blank (remove all content) from this page and request that it be deleted.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Ldm1954 (talk) 16:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Baris Tursun has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Baris Tursun. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Baris Tursun (February 17)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Baris Tursun (May 9)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ldm1954 was:
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to
Make sure your draft meets one of the criteria above before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If the subject does not meet any of the criteria, it is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
This should probably be a hard reject; no indication of notability, and it will be many years before he is based upon where he is now.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Ldm1954 (talk) 12:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Baris Tursun 2

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