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Cypriot 2nd Division

As far as I have seen documented, this is a fully professional league. Therefore, I see no reason that the Nick Gkionis article should be subject to deletion of any sort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NJDevils1087 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Weston-super-Mare A.F.C.

You've certainly done some good work on this article over the last couple of weeks. It would be good to expand the lead to 2-3 paragraphs as per WP:LEAD and add references the history section - then I think it should reach B class. I know little about football articles & others may be able to advise further.— Rod ^talk 19:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I responded to the last (unsigned) comment about WsM FC on User talk:ChrisTheDude I'm a bit confused are these 2 users the same person?— Rod ^talk 17:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

OK I've done a few minor style edits & added {{fact}} tags where I think you need to cite your source which could be books, newspapers, web sites etc. Hope this is helpful.— Rod ^talk 19:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I classed it as B, though the distinction between Start and B is marginal - if it were a league club article I'd call it a Start, but as non-league sources are less numerous there is more room for leniency. The best examples to follow for non-league clubs are the featured articles Leek Town F.C. and Margate F.C. One possibility for expansion it to include a Colours and Crest section.

When it comes to player links, make sure that the link points to an article about that player, not someone else with the same name - the standard thing to do in that case is to change the link to Joe Bloggs (footballer). Also, players who have never played professionally should not be linked, as it is generally accepted that they should not have articles. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Ivan Becerra

From transfermarkt.de [1], which shows him joining Wake Forest University after leaving Columbus Crew. If it was wrong then fine, but it was hardly vandalism. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 22:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Jon Beswetherick

Thanks for the note - I have now amended the article to reflect this, although as your original edit only incuded the WsM team template it was far from complete. Cheers. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Andy Gurney

Could you update the page then because it says he's current club is H&W. Jimbo^[online] 17:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Gareth Hopkins (footballer)

Another editor has added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Gareth Hopkins (footballer), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 19:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was a bit hasty, I thought Cheltenham were promoted to the league later than that. He does indeed qualify as notable enough under the rules. I've removed the prod now, please accept my apologies. Qwghlm (talk) 19:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Andy Iro

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Sorry, but playing in World University Games doesn't make someone notable. We don't even allow players an article if they've appeared for their country at U-18 level, which is a far higher achievement. Saying "it is only a matter of time before he breaks into the Columbus Crew side" is also a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. The only way it will be more work is if someone contests the prod, because then it will have to go through AfD. Nevertheless, it can be recreated as soon as he makes a first team appearance. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Making "tons of friends" is not what Wikipedia is about; it's about making a quality source of information about important stuff. Despite the quality of the article, Iro is not important enough to deserve one at the moment - I could write a very in-depth one about my village football team, but it doesn't make it notable. It is not my "Iron Fist rule", but a set of policies which were developed by numerous editors working together. пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

PS, thanks for alerting me to all those other articles - I have prodded all those which fail. пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

If you created them, you can add {{db-author}} and it will be speedily deleted. пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

You can prod them by adding the following to the top of the articles:

{{subst:prod:Fails [[WP:BIO]] as he hasn't played in a fully professional league.}}

пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, that should be:

{{subst:prod|Fails [[WP:BIO]] as he hasn't played in a fully professional league.}}

пﮟოьεԻ 57 23:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

AfDs

Hi Gaucho. You can create a single AfD for multiple articles (see WP:BUNDLE) to save creating numerous ones for the same reason. Aside from this, USL appears to be a pro league, so I wouldn't bother AfD'ing any players who have played in it. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 20:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what level the league is at, as long as it is fully pro. USL1 and USL2 are both fully-pro, so any players in those divisions meet the criteria. The PDL is not, so any player in there who has not played at a higher level does not meet the criteria. Hope this answers your question. пﮟოьεԻ 57 23:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Tyler Rosenlund

Hi Gaucho, regarding the Rosenlund articles, you were almost right except for the first and last one. http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/aik/artikel.asp?id=152012 was published on Jan 29, 2007 reads thus: AIK tries Canadian

The Canadian midfielder T R is in Stockholm to try for a contract, according to AIK's web site.

The offensive midfielder T R will be playing on a trial basis with AIK during the two following weeks. The Canadian, who was born in Vancouver by the Pacific Ocean, has been studying and playing football at University of California Santa Barbara outside Los Angeles, and led his team to a great victory in the American college cup. In addition to a pass that led to a goal in the finals which UCSB won by 2-1, he also scored a hat trick in the quarter finals.

"From what we hear, Tyler is one of the major Canadian talents and we want to look closer at his abilities. It's perfect for us to try out players right now - our current team holds a high standard which means we can be very picky about the players who try out", says AIK's head of sports, Ola Andersson.

T R was born in September, 1986, and has played 31 boys' and junior national games for Canada. Apparently, Rosenlund also has an EU passport, which means that he would not occupy one of the three slots allowed for non-EU players in the team if he were to be offered a contract.

And http://www.svenskafans.com/fotboll/aik/artikel.asp?id=153300 published on Feb 8, 2007 reads: No Tyler in AIK

Tyler Rosenlund who has been on the team on a trial basis will not get a contract with AIK this time. He didn't have sufficiently specialised qualities.

TR played the entire game against Syrianska but didn't convince the club's leadership, and so after a week's trial, the Canadian with Swedish and Finnish ancestry will have to look for another club.

AIK's coach Rikard Nordling motivates the decision: "Our assessment is that Tyler is a skilled football player, but given the current competition we can't offer him a contract."

(Translations not exact but close :-) )

The other two articles are about the game where AIK played Valsta Syrianska, and Rosenlund played the whole game; the summary article states that he didn't make much of an impression at all, and AIK failed to dominate the midfield. The play-by-play article says much the same (though in the 85th minute, there was a nice shot on goal by Rosenlund which was saved by the goalkeeper.)

So basically, Rosenlund came to AIK to try out for two weeks, they were quite excited to have him, but after one week he had to leave.

Hope this helped! --Bonadea (talk) 09:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Andy Robertson

I've nominated the article for Andy Robertson as he doesn't meet the criteria at WP:BIO#Athletes - i.e. hasn't played in a professional league yet. Jimbo^[online] 09:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Transwiki to a more inclusive site

Hi Gauchodude,

I see that you've been doing quite a lot of good work in Wikipedia, especially the football section. As some of your articles are currently under review for deletion on the grounds of non-notability, I wanted to suggest that you consider transferring them to Wikipopuli, a wiki that I set up to host biographical articles without a notability requirement. Indeed, given your level of experience in the wiki world, I'd be grateful for any feedback you care to give on the site. Thanks TheYellowCabin (talk) 20:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Mark Preece

The Conference isn't fully professional, so by the WP:BIO#Athletes criteria, none of its players are notable unless they've played at a higher level. пﮟოьεԻ 57 07:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

PROD

Please see the guidelines for proposed deletion. Articles which have survived an AFD, such as Justin Hughes (soccer) cannot be PRODded. Regards, Neier (talk) 12:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chase Wileman

Can you review your Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chase Wileman. He actually played today (July 1st), 90 minutes against Miami FC Blues - [2] Nfitz (talk) 05:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Doug Lascody

I added the link to the talk page when I removed the prod: I didn't see a good place in the article to shoehorn it in.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:55, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry -- I didn't see the "Reserve Division" line. Got it now.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Recent AfDs

When you're putting articles up for deletion, it's much appreciated if you'd provide links to past discussions for deletion. Several articles you have recently nominated have been through the process before, and generally, the nominator provides these as a resource to guide discussion. matt91486 (talk) 22:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Super Editor!

Hey, I noticed you were going through the PDL notable former player lists :) Good job keeping it all up to date... but I couldn't help wondering - are you simply deleting anyone who doesn't have an article, or are you actually going through and looking at whether a particular player is notable in the context of that club or not? Because I noticed that you deleted Terry Boss's entry from Vermont Voltage, when he is actually the current starting GK for Charlotte Eagles, used to play for Puerto Rico Islanders, and in fact should have an article about him (which no-one's gotten around to writing yet)... or I also noticed you deleted Julian Valentin's entry from Cary RailHawks U23's when he is currently on the roster of LA Galaxy and is a US U-23 international, so in the context of the RailHawks he is VERY notable. I mean, I'm all for maintaining lists and making sure that erroneous info doesn't creep in, but I think that you just need to refine your criteria a little beyond "if he doesn't have an article (yet) he must not be notable..." --JonBroxton (talk) 02:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

And another one... Happy Hall, who you just deleted from Bradenton Academics, is a full international for the Bahamas, and has played in world cup games THIS YEAR - [3]. He just doesn't have an article yet. Are you seriously saying that Hall isn't notable? This is why I think you can't just arbitrarily delete every article-less person. --JonBroxton (talk) 02:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, that's fine... I wasn't being argumentative or anything, so please don't misunderstand me - I know you do LOTS of outstanding work on US soccer articles, an you're actually one of the soccer editors whose work I wholly trust. I agree with you that the vast majority of the people you deleted should never have been on the lists in the first place - but do you mind if I follow you around tonight and restore the (maybe) dozen or so players who I think should be listed, like Boss and Hall above? I'll make a point of trying to at least create some stub articles about them too... --JonBroxton (talk) 02:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I wonder if I could ask you a favor (as you're going through PDL articles and in an editing mood...) - I'm currently in the middle of writing all the Competition History articles for all the PDL teams, I think I've probably done 30 or so to date... but, as you probably know, it's SO difficult to spot errors/typos/grammatical flubs when you have written the paragraph. As you're going through, and when you spot one, would you mind proof-reading the Competition History sections and making sure they read ok in terms of grammar, spelling, sentance construction, etc etc. Having an expert pair of eyes go over them would really help out. Thanks a lot! --JonBroxton (talk) 02:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Marvin Brown

Hi, I've reverted some of your edits to the Marvin Brown article and thought I'd explain why as hopefully it'll give you some pointers for the future. Firstly, please don't fill in the full name flag unless you know the full name. For example, from allfootballers.com, I can see that Marvin Brown is actually Marvin N. Brown. Also, there is no need to link dates anymore and in the infobox you don't need to put 0 in front of everything - just in places where it's needed for alignment. Regards WikiGull (talk) 09:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, was only trying to be helpful! Sorry about the name mistake - is right on the article, but got it wrong above. I only put the R in because I saw it on www.allfootballers.com (although it's a subscription site, you can see names and initials for free). Putting in the normally used name as their full name is misleading if you don't know otherwise. I've two books that gives me full names for all players pre 1997, so try to reference them where possible, and others have books for later players. I see your point re the 0's, but I'm just following how every other infobox looks. If you want to raise it at the football project page, that might be the best way to address it. Re dates - they used to be linked and now we're not supposed to. No idea when/why. Not a Weston fan, am a Torquay fan, hence the name - though Weston have a few of our former players. WikiGull (talk) 10:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Dan Kennedy

Actually, there is a conversation going on about converting to the new infobox here: [[4]]. So, while they were all chatting about the technicalities of all the different bits and drop down menus, I thought I'd pick up the mantle and try to get all current MLS players converted over to the new user-friendly infobox, and do a bit of general cleanup before the season starts. Just a little ongoing project I'm working on. --JonBroxton (talk) 23:18, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Christina DiMartino

To answer your question: the reason why I created the page under DiMartino's full name is because 1) she is listed as such in her UCLA profile, 2) she has and does refer to herself as Christina, and 3) the FC Gold Pride coach called her by her full first name (as opposed to, say, Carrie Dew, whose full given name is Caroline - but everyone, including Dew herself, calls her Carrie, not Caroline, hence it would make sense in Dew's case to have her main page created under Carrie Dew and not Caroline Dew). DiMartino's, in my opinion, could go either way. However, if you feel the change is so necessary, feel free to make it. Rocambolesque (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

• Re: the U21-U23 distinction. Very well, do as you will. 06:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocambolesque (talk • contribs)

2008 WPS International Draft

Excellent page! Would you be willing to work with me to fill all these out? CyMoahk (talk) 17:04, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

San Diego United

Hm. I'm looking at http://www.sandiegounited.net/, and it says "San Diego" all over it. I wish they'd make their minds up! --JonBroxton (talk) 04:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

UCSB as a party school

I was agreeing with you and others. I just want citations and have no interest in finding them. If you have them, and post them on the talk page, I'll do the edits.--Levalley (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordan Angeli

Hello,

I was wondering if you think any college player can ever be notable? To me it seems rather ridiculous that the very best college players in any given sport aren't, in reality, considerably more notable than someone who meets the bare minimum of "1 minute in one professional game."

The women in this AfD all all among the very best college players, and I have taken the time to show they have all been covered in depth by reliable sources. Thus, I respectfully request you reconsider your !vote - that is, unless you feel no current college player could possible be notable for their athletic accomplishments.

Thank you, --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to reply. --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Nate Boyden

Sorry about that, I thought somebody just put a phony team down for some reason, I got it fixed. My bad. – Michael (talk) 12:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Cal Poly soccer

Yeah, thanks. It was a lot of work but it was very helpful going off of what you had for UCSB Gauchos soccer. Thanks! I wanted to put a logo up on the Cal Poly soccer page but not sure how it works with copyright and stuff like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sikolec (talk • contribs) 16:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Bryan Byrne

yeah, it's all to do with the fact that Hollywood Utd has four different teams.

• the PDL team (Hollywood United Hitmen)
• the over-35s team
• the celebrity team (the one which all the famous actors and whatnot play for in charity games)
• the amateur team that plays in local LA amateur tourneys, but *NOT* the PDL. This is the team which qualified for the US Open Cup in 2008 and beat Portland. This is the team that Byrne plays for when he's not playing for VC Fusion in the PDL.

Hope this helps! --JonBroxton (talk) 17:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

• • I would say no to adding it to his infobox. It really is an amateur "turn up and you get a game" kind of league that he's playing in right now. The 2008 USOC team is a little different because it actually made it to the serious competition stage of a national event - which is why it's mentioned on the pages for Brian Dunseth and Matt Taylor for example - but Brian wasn't on the roster for Hollywood's USOC cup run, and will likely go back to VC Fusion next season, and therefore won't play for the non-PDL Hollywood team in the USOC qualifying rounds next season. I agree it is confusing, but for consistency I think that, for players who play for amateur teams, we should only add PDL appearances, unless their team qualifies for the USOC through USASA qualifying. --JonBroxton (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

on Eriko Asakawa

I've briefly translated it. Refer at:User:GauchoDude/ErikoAsakawa -- Kurosuke  22:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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Athletica All-Time Roster

Wow! Thanks for the upgrade! =-) CyMoahk (talk) 21:28, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, when I first made the page, I went through all the early boxscores.... I didn't know what else to do, since I felt those her stint as an Athletica player had to be recognized somehow.... oh well. Again, thanks! CyMoahk (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Washington Freemdom, Boston Breakers

I actually disagree, at least for the Freedom: the Freedom as an organization has been running continuously since the WUSA days, and (for the most part) has kept a definite core of players on their senior team the whole time. Boston I'm not so sure about, since I don't know any of the details about the Breakers organization now and then. This is actually a really good point, though; I'm going to ask some of the people on BigSoccer what they think and get back to ya. =-) CyMoahk (talk) 21:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.... I see where you're coming from, but I think those MLS organizations are still noticeably different from their USL organizations, and both Seattle and Vancouver weren't/aren't guaranteed to continue their respective names, so I think having them as separate articles is appropriate in a way that would not be appropriate for the Freedom. Also, there are other cases of "promotion" among American soccer team articles where it's definitely not split up; see FC Indiana and Cleveland City Stars. Boston I can definitely see being broken into two articles. Washington.... not so much. =-/ I may very well change my tune depending on how the people on BigSoccer respond to the thread I stared, so we can keep this issue open for a while. =-) CyMoahk (talk) 21:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi again! Anyway, reaction on BigSoccer was mixed, at least on the Freedom (everyone agreed the Breakers and Beat needed the two different articles). Most people liked it the way it is now, one article for the senior team in all its continuity, and one for the new Reserve team; some thought it definitely should be split up, and some thought it was probably fine either way. All of the self-proclaimed Freedom fans wanted to keep it the way it is now. So yeah, that's the opinions on the forum =-) CyMoahk (talk) 22:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

UC Santa Barbara pictures

Thanks for asking! Yes, I'm still around UCSB and willing to take photos. Just a couple caveats: my camera doesn't do well with night photography or moving people, and I rarely go to sports games. :) You might also want to add those articles to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Santa Barbara County, California — I've uploaded a few based on what was missing according to that list. Dreamyshade (talk) 06:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

All right, I can do most of those. Might take me a while, waiting for sunny days and less-busy days, but I'll add them to the articles (or let you know) as I go along. Thanks! Dreamyshade (talk) 17:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I found something helpful: Fotowiki, a UCSB graduate student project from 2006 that has lots of GFDL photos of the UCSB campus. Many of the photos aren't great quality, but there are several of each place (including the stadiums and fields) so you should be able to grab some useful ones. I even emailed one of the admins of the project to confirm that the photos are GFDL-licensed, and he said they are. Let me know if these aren't sufficient, and I'll go out and take some more. Dreamyshade (talk) 16:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Improving WPS Articles

Sure, that sounds like a good plan. I'm not sure how much I can do this weekend, since I'm trying to catch up on homework, but I'll see what I can do. =-) CyMoahk (talk) 16:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

One comment about player lists: when you're putting together the "notable former players" list on each team page, you should probably come up with a criterion for what qualifies as "notable". My suggestion would be 1) anyone WNT (US or otherwise) experience, 2) anyone who's won an individual award at some point, or 3) anyone who's played at least 15 WPS games. I mean, I don't think players like Greer Barnes (LA) or Marisa Abegg (BAY) really count as "notable", at least not yet. Just my two cents. CyMoahk (talk) 16:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

WPS Stats

Thanks for the corrections. My fault!Alexhhh (talk) 22:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

MOS:FLAG

I'm not too sure of the in's and out's to be honest, consensus seemed to be against it. I suggest you ask at WT:FOOTY to see if anyone has any greater knowledge on the matter. Thanks, --Jimbo^[online] 22:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Washington Freedom Reserves

Yes, you're right... my understanding is that Washington Freedom left the W-League in 2008 to take up the spot in WPS, and that the WF Reserves took their place in the W-League. --JonBroxton (talk) 23:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

UCSB players

Just trying to get some consistency in the articles: Kyle Reynish, Bryan Byrne and a couple of others didn't even have it listed! --JonBroxton (talk) 23:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, dude, I got your back :) --JonBroxton (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Brittany Bock

I am curious why the recent edit to the Brittany Bock article was reverted; no reason is shown in the article's history page. The reverted edit was done in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines and policy, as described in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, and changed none of the actual information in the article. For example, the guideline states that the introductory paragraph should only indicate the birth dates, not the birth location; that should be in the main body of the article; the edit followed that guideline. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 18:16, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply on my talk page. FYI, typical convention for teams is to use "the" if the complete team name (including mascot) is given and no "the" if only the city or country is given; see, for example the teams in the National Football League (with "the") and UEFA Champions League (no "the") articles. As a reminder, it is always helpful to add a brief reason/description of each change in the Edit summary when the change is made. Thanks again, and Happy Editing. Truthanado (talk) 23:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Your question about location links prompted me to contact several experienced editors to get their opinions. I have learned that there is some information on location links as part of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Linking, and the recommended style in line with Naperville, Illinois, (wikilink the city only, don't link the state) on the basis that it is visually clear that there is one link and it takes you to Naperville, and that Illinois is in many contexts (maybe not the first time in say, a county article of Illinois) an overlink. Certainly US, UK, France, USSR etc. are widely considered overlinking. While both methods are acceptable to use for linking city/states, one method of linking should be used consistently throughout the article. I trust this clarifies things; I know I will be changing my copyedits in the future to comply with this style. Truthanado (talk) 03:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Discretionary plurals

I've never heard that - I've always heard them called the Washington Freedom. I don't follow soccer that closely, though - feel free to change it back if it's accurate. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that's the American style, then. You know we have to do things differently... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian Women's National Team Statistics

Hi. I assumed Marta's and Cristiane's Brazil appearances and goals before my update were correct. As Brazil is currently playing a competition (Brazil played two games so far, one against Chile and the other against Mexico, check RSSSF), I updated based on what was previously established in the infobox. However, as the infobox is unsourced, perhaps it is best to remove the apps and goals from the infobox. Hope that helps. Regards, --Carioca (talk) 18:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

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Johnny Alcaraz

I don't know. I think it's a bogus decision, to be honest, but the difference here is that Johnny Alcaraz himself initiated the AfD by e-mailing Wikipedia himself and asking for the article to be deleted. I don't think we're getting into a situation where MLS players who only have USOC caps are going be under threat; I think this is a bit of special circumstance. I've left a message with the admin who closed the AfD to put a copy of the article in my sandbox, so if Johnny ever signs another pro contract we can easily recreate the article. --JonBroxton (talk) 05:05, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Weston-super-Mare A.F.C. squad

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Overlinking

I notice that you restored an overlink with this edit. You also changed the date format, which is against WP:MOSDATE, WP:STRONGNAT, and WP:DATERET. I'm fixing that one. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

• Not sure where you find the overlinking. If you are referring to you reverting his nationality in the opening statement, a simple look at the first 26 players from List of current MLS players (all players with last name beginning with 'A'), a list Luis Silva would be a member as an MLS player, 22 of the 26 have the format in which I instituted. Only 4 have the version that you seem to prefer.
• In addition, it can be argued that as a player on a Canadian team, Silva's date formatting should be that of WP:STRONGNAT, but will concede your point on WP:DATERET. You can leave it as such until I add more to the Silva article with more dates and thus becoming "the first major contributor in the early stages of an article". GauchoDude (talk) 00:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

A simple look at the first 100 players will show that most of them are overlinked, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing. I'm undoing them as I find them.

As for StrongNat, it's the subject, not the team, so the subject here is American. The fact that he plays for a Canadian team is moot. Also, in Canada, both formats are acceptable so you can't argue for change based solely on the location of the team. For soccer articles, we usually use the American format (check the Whitecaps, TFC, Montreal Impact, and FC EDmonton articles and their season articles, and the Canadian Championship articles). But WP:DATERET takes precedence in this case regardless.

So, summing up, please don't link countries as it's against WP:OVERLINK and make an effort to unlink when updating articles. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Sandy Neilson

Please do not change Sandy Neilson-Bell's birth name back to Alexandra, which is absolutely false. It's Sandra Lynn Neilson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colonelkorbett (talk • contribs) 04:25, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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