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Your submission at Articles for creation: The DEFCON Warning System (August 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curbon7 was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

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Every single source that is currently cited, besides Bustle, is not a reliable source.

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Curbon7 (talk) 17:52, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that the daily mail/express/star aren't brilliant sources and just used them to show that the DWS has been quoted by outside sources, I've gotten rid of them. However Media Bias Fact check shouldn't be ruled out. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77660-4 << Quoted by researchers as "While its credibility is sometimes questioned, it has been regarded as accurate enough to be used as ground-truth for e.g. media bias classifiers, fake news studies, and automatic fact-checking systems."

There is also precedent of using the website that the article is about as a source to make reference of (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtariAge , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airliners.net , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacRumors).

I am asking that you take another look, if this request for appeal is not allowed then I apologise. Friendly Engineer (talk) 18:10, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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AfC notification: Draft:The DEFCON Warning System has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:The DEFCON Warning System. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 06:42, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the external links. Friendly Engineer (talk) 11:23, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

However, I kept the one external link in the info box as the article is about a website, so I feel that it's appropriate to have a link to said website in the info box. Friendly Engineer (talk) 11:24, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to clarify that I have not received any money or gifts by the DEFCON Warning System. It's a purely voluntary role as a moderator, I made the DEFCON Warning System wiki page because I was a bit shocked to find that there was no page for it, I mean, DWS has been quoted by news articles and has over a quarter of a million twitter followers and more than 3000 forum members, and I believed this to be enough to sate wikipedia's notability requirements although perhaps I was wrong, I am new to wikipedia. - Friendly Engineer Friendly Engineer (talk) 10:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Friendly Engineer Even if you have not received money, from what you describe, I believe that you are considered by WP to have a conflict of interest because you are very close to the subject.. if I am right, you must makes COI declaration. Maybe an editor who is more experienced than I am can chime in. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 07:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Already made that declaration on both my user page and the draft page a while ago. Friendly Engineer (talk) 13:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the draft talk page Friendly Engineer (talk) 13:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:The DEFCON Warning System has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:The DEFCON Warning System. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:20, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So, if I remove everything and just put in a brief description backed up by media bias fact check and the bustle article and turn it into a stub it would be acceptable? Or does the website need to be quoted in more reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements? Friendly Engineer (talk) 20:23, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I say "backed up" I mean quoting directly from those two sources. Friendly Engineer (talk) 20:24, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]