User talk:Five Years/Archive 15

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Ivybridge Community College

Hi I see you're on the assessment team for WikiProject Schools. I need an assessment for Ivybridge Community College. Please find some time to assess this article. Bsrboy (talk) 00:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Questions:

Hi, a had some trouble to track you down! I am the person who told you about some issues at a Private Christian School. I had to resort to using an IP address because some users blocked me for no reason. I feel that Wiki is controlled by a certain few (not you btw.) who only lets info that they approve of. Can you please shed light on this please.

--122.106.103.195 (talk) 00:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

New One

You might look very closely :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Museums if they have started up there might technically be some redundancy on the part of the edu tags - if I were you - a friendly cordial discussion and interaction between the edu and mus projects might be in order - just a suggestion Satu Suro 10:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

well whatever - it seemed something to know about - what actually happens is always something else on wikipedia anyways :| Satu Suro 01:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Your name change

Is it OK if I put something in the WikiProject Homeschooling newsletter that says you changed your name from Twenty Years to Five Years, so that members can recognize you as both accounts? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 12:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Are you keeping your current signature, then? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 16:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 16:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up (I had already noticed though ;)). All the best. —Moondyne click! 23:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Best of luck with the new moniker Satu Suro 01:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Aquinas Blazer Logo.JPG)

Thanks for uploading Image:Aquinas Blazer Logo.JPG. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 12:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Five Years 13:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Homeschooling Early April 2008 Newsletter

	The Homeschooling WikiProject News
Issue Three • Early April 2008 • About the Newsletter
News Recent Project News Collaboration of the Month nominations are currently open for WikiProject Homeschooling's Collaboration of the month. So far there have been two nominations. You can nominate and vote at April's Collaboration page (link). The March 2008 Collaboration of the Month was a real success! You can view the before and afters at the project page. The following users contributed: Zginder, Wrad, E104421, Diligent Terrier. Stop by their talk page and give them a smile. Peer Review: The homeschooling article is currently under peer review. Constructive criticism is welcome at the peer review page (link). Project member count reaches 23 members! Keep inviting all your WikiFriends using our invitation templates. A Homeschooling Portal may be created by User:WBOSITG. However, this user will soon be on a WikiBreak, so don't expect it anytime soon. Remember: The project is accessible from the shortcuts, WP:HOME and WP:WPHS. Note: User:Twenty Years has changed his name to "Five Years" A Wikipedia Ad for the project has been created. You can view it at the project page.
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Response

Hi. About that little conversation that I had with 'Dilly' Terrier, I want to tell you that he wrote a message on my talk page regarding something that I did about 3 months ago, that is that I pulled out of one of his projects. I deleted the message and then he became mad and started bugging me with a bunch of annoying messages. Then I reacted, as normal, telling him to not boder me anymore. Apparently he didn't understand and threatened me that I'll we banned. I just want you to understand that wasn't my fault. Paulinho28 (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

My RFA has closed

My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence § t/e 18:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Even though it failed with 28 supports, 42 opposes, and 15 neutrals, I am grateful for the suggestions and advice I have received and I do hope to improve as a Wikipedian. If you ever need my help in any endeavor, feel free to drop me a line. --Shark face 217 20:02, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Mentoring

Hello, I posted this to Nothing444 but have been informed that h no longer able to mentor. As you were the second person to kindly offer assitance I am now posting here. Thank you for you offer. I would like to learn more. I tried asking on another moderators talk page, but he erased my entry and did not reply! I can only assume I failed to follow some protocol. Perhaps to start with you can assist me in using the basic tools of communication at Wikipedia, which still seem to be giving me trouble.

Unlike most forum software available today, there does not seem to be a way to send a private message, so everything must be discussed in public? When I enter a post it goes to the bottom not the top? Some posts just fall off into oblivion after xxx days? the table at the top does not contain a way to access historical information? I would like to learn how to be of help here but i feel like I am floundering with basic communication skills. How would you like to proceed? When I hit the "enter" key and insert a Carriage Return to make a new line, I see the new lin in the editor yet when I "Save Page" all my formatting is lost?

RealWorldExperience (talk) 03:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Education in Western Australia

Nice work. It'd be good to expand and link to TEE/TER, but I confess to not fully understanding that. —Moondyne click! 05:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll see if I can help once I get this stupid glut of assignments and my holiday over. Orderinchaos 05:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Added the links, loads of work with regard to refs to go. Five Years 07:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

If someone has time, 1997-1998 changes pretty much set up the system that is there now, I'm sure that Battye or other libraries (Curtin? UWA?) would have something in print that would be usable as a resource. The Curriculum Council prior to that time was known as the Secondary Education Authority. Parliamentary committee reports, which usually are shelved in their own right rather than as part of something else, often state in simple and usually neutral language what is going on and, as best they can determine, why. Sometimes if one is really lucky some international NGO sweeps through and does a point by point summation of the local system and its pluses and minuses relative to comparable systems. Orderinchaos 12:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

School article rating

I see that you have put a "Start" class rating on Bridgewater-Raritan High School, an article that I have done some work on in the past. I am in the process of trying to understand the criteria for the different ratings, mainly in connection with a different Wikiproject that I have become involved with. I do not know whether the Education Wikiproject has specific criteria for its ratings for school articles. What I am wondering is, on this particular article, what would be required for it to be rated higher than "Start" class? I am not really sure how much more information we would want to have in an article on a single high school. Or is it more a matter of the quality of the writing, the sources, or what? Neutron (talk) 16:52, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:NOR

Hey, saw you reverted an editor im helping (User:RealWorldExperience) on the PowerBASIC page here. I know nothing about the subject area, and it would greatly assist in this users development, if you could explain to him what was wrong with his edit. Thanks. Five Years 06:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

We're discussing it at WP:COIN#PowerBasic Part II. I can't say I know much about the subject either, but it's not about the subject. The problem is that he's putting together his own research about the PowerBASIC forum - for instance, history of post deletions - to argue his view that the company provides poor support. That view may or may not be true, but it comes down to a) using an online forum as source, and b) classic breach of WP:NOR ("unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position").

It's a difficult situation. I agree that the PowerBASIC page currently looks a bit of an ad, but having a sole interest in introducing hostile material to that article suggests an axe to grind. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 15:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Addendum to that: I've just looked at User:RealWorldExperience/Mentoring. If he is serious about being mentored, it would be good advice that he diversify his interests here. I think it's a misuse of mentorship to see it merely as a way of learning better ways of rules-lawyering to pursue this crusade. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 23:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Scotch College

An article written by a former student risks original research. The article does not address the youth culture of Perth, students from the private schools may have played a leading role, but it was the college that tried to do something about it. Fred Talk 17:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Policy

It would be good for you to actually read Wikipedia policy:

Maintain Wikipedia policy

The policies that apply to articles also apply (if not to the same extent) to talk pages, including Wikipedia's verification, neutral point of view and no original research policies. There is of course some reasonable allowance for speculation, suggestion and personal knowledge on talk pages, with a view to prompting further investigation, but it is usually a misuse of a talk page to continue to argue any point that has not met policy requirements...

...Editors should remove any negative material about living persons that is either unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Reliable sources, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source.

I'm fairly certain that the Employees of PowerBASIC qualify as living persons. Repeated slanderous attacks on them (by Real World Experience) is unforgivable. PowerCoder (talk) 20:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Oakhill College

Hi. I've protected the page and blocked the offending user. In the future, that kind of thing is better brought to WP:AIV than WP:ANI. Thanks for the vigilance. Toddst1 (talk) 06:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Bots

I know we had a discussion on the assessment page about a bot that was automatically assessing school articles. I think this is the bot in question here. I've no idea how it works. Perhaps you can help? Dahliarose (talk) 22:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Backlog at Category:Wikipedians seeking to be adopted in Adopt-a-user

Bot

Hey, i think weve hit a snag. In Category:Unassessed school articles click on the letter Z, and heaps of pages are sorted into a sub-section entitled " { ", is this some sort of bot mess up or the category being slow to update. Thanks. Five Years 18:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually this is probably a template issue, I'll track it down and get back to you. Adam McCormick (talk) 04:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

It was a template issue and I think I've got it fixed. I've requested a bring over from my local copy which includes this fix along with the other changes we've been working on. Adam McCormick (talk) 04:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The change has been moved over and it seems to have fixed most of the pages but some still seem to be mislabled. However, If I replace the template with the version in my sandbox then go back to the project version it fixes the problem. I think this means that the server needs to catch up to the database or something like that. It's breaking my bot as well as being generally annoying so i feel your pain. Adam McCormick (talk) 05:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Seems any change made to a page now fixes the issue so it should right itself when the database catches up. Thanks for letting me know Adam McCormick (talk) 06:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

St Pat's

Hello Five Years. I noticed you removed the controversy section from this article recently and asked for a source. The user did not add a source, but re-added it. I have removed it an explained the issue on the talk page. Basically, this is a "non story" that was turned into a relatively big story during a slow news week. I feel it doesn't really warrant a mention. Perhaps you could contribute to the discussion. Thanks. Alice Mudgarden (talk) 10:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 07:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review

Hello there. I saw your name on the volunteers list and it appears you do schools. When you have the time, could you do me a favor and perhaps review McGill University? It's already gone through one review, but that brought out only two responses. The peer review is here. Please take your time. Thanks, --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 20:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so far for your contribution. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 11:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Cricket Project templates suggestion

Do you have a bot that is changing all the instances of "WP Cricket" to "WikiProject Cricket"? If not, and you are having to do them all by hand, then given the very large number wouldn't it be a lot easier to update the former template so that it was identical to the latter? (I must admit that, until you started making your changes, I had assumed that they were synonymous, and had been using the WP form on the grounds that it meant less typing.) JH (talk page) 17:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

"Dont have any idea of how to make the template identical." Unfortunately nor do I, but I'm sure that if you ssk on the project's Talk page someone would be able to help. It must be better than changing hundreds of pages by hand. JH (talk page) 09:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

About "making the template identical", there is only one template which is Template:WikiProject Cricket while Template:WP Cricket is a redirect to it. They are the same thing and it really doesn't matter if the editor uses WP or WikiProject. Unless I have misunderstood the problem, that is. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 04:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

If they use "WP Cricket", its a redirect to "WikiProject Cricket", and redirects should be avoided shouldnt they? I will bring the matter up on the project talk page. Five Years 07:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU/OC

Hello . The Highly Active Users project has gone through a complete revamping per popular demand. We believe this new format will make it easier for new editors to find assistance. However, with the new format, I must again ask you to verify your information on this page. With the extensive changes, I may have made some errors. Thanks again. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

You will also need to add [[Category:Wikipedians who use StatusBot]] to your userpage in order for SoxBot V to automatically update your online/offline status. If you do not added this text, you will always be listed as "offline" at HAU. Thanks. Useight (talk) 02:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Homeschooling May 2008 Newsletter

	The Homeschooling WikiProject News
Issue Four • May 2008 • About the Newsletter
News Recent Project News Collaboration of the Month nominations are currently open for WikiProject Homeschooling's Collaboration of the month. So far there have been two nominations. You can nominate and vote at May's Collaboration page (link). Project member count reaches 37 members! Invite others using our invitation templates. A new article, List of homeschooled individuals has been created. You can help the project by tagging the talk pages of articles with `{{WikiProject Homeschooling}}` We are working on getting the homeschooling article to GA status.
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Thanks

Thanks so much for your support in myRfA, which closed successfully this morning. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 17:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

Hi, I noticed that you have recently assessed Los Altos High School. Could you please assess the Wikiproject Education one as well, and please leave a summary of what needs to be improved. Anything would be helpful. Thanks! --haha169 (talk) 03:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 22:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)