User talk:Emma May Smith

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Boolyme बूलीमी ^{Chat बोलो!!} 17:13, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brigg

Why did you revert the units in the Brigg article as the UK generally uses miles for distances rather than kilometers as per the other UK articles? Keith D (talk) 18:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Manual of Style at WP:MEASUREMENT says that even for UK topics metric units should be preferred, except in specific instances of road length, personal height and weight, and some liquids. As the measurements in the Brigg article refer to geographical distances and heights, they should be in metric first, with conversion only afterward if necessary. Emma May Smith (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Geographical distances for UK articles use miles first. Keith D (talk) 21:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Only road lengths use miles first. The distances quoted in the article aren't connected to road lengths, and the other measurements aren't distances at all, but heights. Emma May Smith (talk) 08:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

River Rase or River Rasen

Google maps has "River Rase" but many other sources have "River Rasen," so I am unsure what to call it. Since you are in Lincolnshire, what would you say?

Beyond that question, I am providing more information about what I am doing, concerning this river and bridges.

Incidentally, I see you are doing good work on Lincolnshire articles. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, on the name of the river, we can't quote me as an authority, sadly. The OS has "Rase", so that should be the name used in the first instance. That also fits with everything I've heard locally. Further, in the Domesday Book and the Lindsey Survey "Rase" or "Rasa" is the name most often given for the placenames. If I had to guess, "Rasen" came about as some kind of dative or locative ending from "Market Rasen", that is "market at the Rase". Emma May Smith (talk) 23:08, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You may not be quotable as an authority, but you have given me an interesting reply. I know about Domesday Book, but never looked anything up there, but now I need to learn about the Lindsey Survey, and how to look places/rivers up there. I also need to figure out where the source of the Rase is located. I did one English river article; it was difficult. All the other ones I look at seem to be difficult, too, which is one reason they are not there yet. Also, the surviving packhorse bridges tend to be over fairly insignificant streams, with only a few exceptions. --DThomsen8 (talk) 03:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Packhorse Bridges

I am working with User:Dave.Dunford on his draft User:Dave.Dunford/Packhorse list of packhorse bridges, which he will probably merge into the existing article Packhorse bridges. I am working on the rivers (streams, really) without articles crossed by the bridges. I have already created the article on the River Kennett, in Suffolk, England. Now I have been working on the River Rase, aka River Rasen, crossed by a packhorse bridge. Here is an excerpt from his draft table, slightly altered by me. You can see that this bridge is sometimes called "Bishop's Bridge" because it was built by a bishop, ca. 1300-1320. Having a place, or according to what you say, a bridge by the same name or almost the same name, at the mouth of the River Rase, and mentions of that place, or bridge, elsewhere in Lincolnshire articles, makes for at least potential confusion, and also for difficulties in naming and writing new articles, about the river, or either of the bridges. The answer to such puzzles is best achieved by sleeping on it, and advice from those who are better informed.

County	Location	Name	Photograph	Crosses	Notes
Lincolnshire	West Rasen 53°23′22″N 0°24′10″W / 53.3895°N 0.4028°W / 53.3895; -0.4028	Bishop's Bridge		River Rase	15th-century; three elliptical arches. Grade II* listed,^[1] Scheduled Ancient Monument.^[2]

References

^ "Packhorse Bridge over River Rasen, West Rasen". British Listed Buildings. Retrieved 7 November 2012.
^ "Packhorse bridge". ancientmonuments.info. Retrieved 7 November 2012.

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For very good work improving the details about Brigg, in Lincolnshire. DThomsen8 (talk) 21:50, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

River Rase & Bishopbridge

Hi. Just thought you may be interested in that an article has been created for the River Rase, and a redirect for Bishopbridge. Feel free to add information you may, as I think you had worked out the naming for the Rase. Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Students voting in two local elections

I THINK you are wrong about students being allowed to vote in two places in UK (City of London page)... They may in practice often do so, since the whole local system is based on a large amount of trust, however I think it is technically illegal since one is asked when registering to state that this is one's main residence and one may have only one main residence. I don't object very much to your edit, since the previous coverage (previous to mine) was much more 'loaded' in its wording (implying something highly corrupt in the 'two votes'). However I am querying the assertion.Pincrete (talk) 14:21, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, you are correct "Students may be entitled to register at both their home address and their university address, but can only vote once to the same elected chamber or position." Govt website ....... ps it wasn't like that in my day! ....Pincrete (talk) 16:12, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I only know because I did it myself a few years ago. I wondered about the fairness of the whole "two votes for students" thing, but we were given advice that it was lawful. Emma May Smith (talk) 17:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of curiosity, and since it's easier to ask you than to find out for myself! Is this solely true of LOCAL elections, or does it apply to Parliamentary elections as well, (since all elections use basically the same registers). I know 'in my day' students were often effectively disenfranchised from both, not for legal reasons, but because of their relative mobility in their 'study home' and physical distance from parental home.Pincrete (talk) 13:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Only local. The reasoning given is that a General Election is a single election and you can't vote twice in the same election even if in different seats. Local elections are a different election in each LA, so you can vote once in as many of them as you are eligible for. Of course, if your home and study addresses are in the same LA then you still only have one vote.

I think the ability of students to vote in two local elections has grown with the greater ease of postal voting. It may well be that which has changed more than any eligibility rules.

PS, on voting in the City of London I think we are on the same side. I only wanted to make sure the article was factual. Emma May Smith (talk) 14:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

re:- I only wanted to make sure the article was factual - understood completely from day one! Ditto me with C of Lon, in which I have very little real interest or sympathy, but which annoyed me with its ill informed, facile, criticism .... nobody loves international bankers, but that doesn't necessarily mean they eat babies.Pincrete (talk) 22:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverting the same article multiple times

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Hi there, thanks for the heads up. I do feel like I'm losing my cool with this edit war. I tried to make it clear that the deletion made was too sweeping and needed to be discussed, but the person has been very insistent and refuses to wait before making their deletion.

I didn't think a warning on their user page would help, as it is an anon IP. I really don't know the best way to resolve this problem, as I've tried reverting, tried talking, and now what? Emma May Smith (talk) 21:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see you actually got an edit war warning (no justice in this world), for what it's worth, I think you have handled the situation very well. If it continues, you CAN get page protection temporarily. Pincrete (talk) 22:17, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see that up there last time! Thanks for pointing it out. Right now I would be happy if both articles were protected for a few days, as I have other things to do than play Wikipedia games with an anon IP. Emma May Smith (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed appropriate to alert both parties to the three-revert rule, there - unless you're removing full-on gibberish or libel, you shouldn't ever revert the same page more than three times in a day. (It can actually help to step back and wait for another editor to revert it instead, so that the person you're reverting can see that there are actually several people who disagree.)

Warning IPs is worth doing if they're not listening - they're human too and might not realise what they were doing was inappropriate (and if they don't care and ignore repeated warnings, the IP can be blocked). But the fact this is being discussed on the talk page and has a few other editors watching the article seems like it should be enough for now. --McGeddon (talk) 09:06, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Emma May Smith, I've fixed the Charles disambig link below. My sympathies are totally with you, the manner as much as the content of this IP is 'grating'. If it continues, I would ask for temp block or page protection, I also have better things to do !Pincrete (talk) 15:19, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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NB Fixed. Pincrete (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Voynich Manuscript

If you wish to make use of the two VM wikis on Wikia I am involved in (usual complicated story) while redeveloping the WP article, feel free. Jackiespeel (talk) 10:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have looked through them before, so I'm sure that I will go back to them to see what material might be useful. Emma May Smith (talk) 17:47, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is effectively only me there - and OR is fine by me :) Jackiespeel (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Packhorse Bridge over River Rasen, West Rasen". British Listed Buildings. Retrieved 7 November 2012.

[2] "Packhorse bridge". ancientmonuments.info. Retrieved 7 November 2012.

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