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Your post at WP:AN/I

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Shashi Tharoor

Regarding the SSB controversy best not to have it. His web page is referred by someone regarding his beliefs. I just read [that page] and it didn't say anything much.--PremKudvaTalk 05:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

OK thanks for your views. I'm still wondering about the inclusion of the Rationalist International material and its reputability as a source, but I guess these things have to be ironed out. Ekantik 00:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Sanathana Sarathi

I split the article into two. Wasn't the link in the approporiate article?. Kkrystian 24 October 16:54 (UTC+1)

Not as far as I could see, sorry. Ekantik 00:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. 21:50 12 Dec. 2006 Kkrystian (UTC+1)

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Image:Suman Ranganathan.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Suman Ranganathan.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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Done. Ekantik 17:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I've responded on the talk page, sorry for the delay. As to your other question; I'm not an admin, so I can't delete anything. An admin will look at the photo and the talk page on or after the 24th and make a decision. —Chowbok ☠ 01:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba article (link)

What exactly was wrong with my placing that link there? Please respond on my talk page. 19.11.2006 13:31 (UTC+1) Kkrystian

But this website was not critical of SSB. 20.11.2006 16:58 (UTC+1) Kkrystian

Consider enabling an email address. savidan(talk) (e@) 04:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Done. ekantiK talk

Shangri LaXin Zhong De Ri Yue

What does the article need?

It needs more information about what the subject is, what it is for, who created it, etc? For starters, what is Shangri La Xin Zhong De Ri Yue? Ekantik 05:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh I see, I'll work on it^^jackietang33 05:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Cathy L. Lanier

You put a speedy delete onto the page of Cathy L. Lanier even before I was finished creating the initial version! She was selected to become the first woman police chief for Washington DC. I note that her predecessor Charles H. Ramsey has a page. She is a notable authority on homeland security (which is partly why she was chosen, at age 39, to be chief). (Also, you left your comment on the talk page unsigned) -- Sholom 18:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I would like add that you seemed to have misused the speedy delete tag. Please note that the criteria for speedy deletion states that speedy deletes are for articles that do not "assert the importance or significance of its subject." This article clearly stated the importance of the subject as the incoming Washington D.C. police chief. If you disagree with her importance please note the following from the speedy delete criteria: "If the assertion is controversial or there has been a previous AfD, the article should be nominated for AfD instead." Feel free to nominate the article, but I seriously doubt it will result in a deletion. - Ektar 19:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh sorry. Newpage patrollers tend to be very fast. Sorry again. Ekantik 19:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Re article Holy Spirit School of Tagbilaran

Re expansion of Holy Spirit School of Tagbilaran, I have worked on it...still need to do more, but can you check for feedback? Thanks. Please answer in my talk page.Best regards. - Pinay06 22:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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Shahrukh Khan

Hello, Ekantik, I noticed your contributions to Shahrukh Khan's article and I have some questions regarding them:

  • Why did you remove the citations for his announced movies and added movies to the filmography where he has no part in (like Krrish, where he is suppossed to play Krrish???)
  • Why did you add [citation needed] to Economic Honours? The reference was added earlier (see here:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shahrukh_Khan&oldid=88632450) along with other references and then removed.
  • Lots of references where removed in the process - why? I thought WP *likes* references. ;)

Best regards, --Plumcouch Talk2Me 08:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello PlumCouch, thanks for getting in touch with me about this. Here are my answers to your questions -
  • The citation for one announced movie ("I See You") was sourced to a site that is an unreliable source (see WP:RS) and is not suitable in a Wikipedia article under WP:BLP guidelines. I didn't add any movies though, that must have been done by someone else.
  • A citation is required for his qualification in Economics because the source for that information is similarly unreliable for reasons listed above. Under WP:BLP policies, unreliable sources cannot be used to provide information in Wikipedia. If Shah Rukh has graduated in Economics then it should be easy to find a reputable source that says so.
  • Again for reasons listed above, references have to be reputable in accordance with WP:BLP. Many of the references were not reputable and so they were removed. To be specific, information found on online websites is generally unreliable. Exceptions to the rule include articles from Rediff and other sites which are online editions of printed publications. Also, common sense has to be employed because a lot of filmi information (even from reputable sources) are gossip, innuendo and speculation so editors must be judicious in selecting which material to include.
  • I also removed lots of POV sentences and converted them to NPOV. I do not claim to be a perfect editor but hopefully I have brought the article to a standard that fits Wikipedia policies.
Best regards, Ekantik 01:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello Ekantik, I'm glad that you made shahrukh and indian actor. That's good. But Amitabh Bachchan still remains a very popular actor. Are you going to change that or what?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rainman0187 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes I will, let me take a look at it. ekantiK 16:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:BIO??

WP:BIO? Did you mean Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hinduism? Thank you for the compliment on the mediation. Unfortunately, I became pressed with other matters and had to bow out, and the conflict eventually went to arbcom. I don't count it as a success story, although some things were resolved.
My comments on the Hinduism board were meant as a warning. Now that you are more familiar with the intesity and longevity of the conflict, I leave you to exercise your own judgement. I just didn't want a rush decision made without knowledge of the risk of disruption that may be involved. Feel free to discuss this with me further. Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 03:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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Rani's Page

Well, if you think the article reads like a resume, then why don't you fix it? I only reverted your edits because you removed ten references which I worked hard for and you reduced the length of the page. If you want it to read like a biography, fix it again but this time, don't remove any references. And if you do cut the length, find out about something else, add a new section to make it to the same length or more, be creative. Thanks! I think your edits were good, just don't remove my work on references. Restructure the sentences if you don't like them. Thanks. -User:shez_15

Unfortunately many of the references used are not in conformity with WP:RS, that is why they were removed. If any references violate WP:RS then they will have to be removed. Ekantik 01:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Neutral Editor?

Ekantik, can you please explain this edits by Gaurasundara: Refs: 01 02? Why are you using two names? For those who may not know, Gaurasundara is not a neutral party in the Sai Controversy and even attempted to get his profile deleted for some unknown reason [1]. He is one of the most vocal opponents of Sathya Sai Baba on the internet (otherwise known as Sanjay Dadlani) and is notorious for his shameless defamations against him. Not only did Gaurasundara's first edit on his userpage come from Ekantik's page [2], Ekantik was the very first person to greet him [3]. You need to come clean about your association with Gaurasundara and your alleged statements about being a neutral editor. SSS108 talk-email 16:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ekantik for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. SSS108 talk-email 18:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Complaint about user:SSS108's behavior

I filed a complaint about user:SSS108 in which you are involved. See [4]. Andries 17:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about this. ekantiK talk 03:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

A section at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#re: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba has been started. - BanyanTree 07:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Good Job!

I loved your edits. I also helped you more to get rid of the resume tag and made a flow to the article with sentence structures. I hope you like it. Go see it! And now, guard the page, coz many people hate Rani and they will revert your edits and mine. Thanks! User:shez_15

Thank you very much. :) ekantiK talk 04:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Pseudoscience

Hope this helps. savidan(talk) (e@) 22:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Rani Mukherjee edits

The bot only links to articles that exist in other languages. Once the other languages update the article name with the new name, the bot should link to the new names. DHN 02:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

A Proposition

Please read the proposition on the Sathya Sai Baba Talk Page. If you agree to it, please sign it. It is an effort to build good faith and resolve controversial issues on the talk page, rather than engaging in edit warring. Thanks. SSS108 talk-email 18:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Ekantik talk 01:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for arbitration

I have filed a request here to reopen the previous arbitration case regarding Sathya Sai Baba and related articles, as I believe there are serious ongoing problems with disruptive editing and personal attacks which were not addressed in the previous case. You may wish to add a comment of your own. Thatcher131 15:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about this. Ekantik talk 02:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Controversy?

Dear Ekantik, I'm afraid that I'm always involved in controversies. I really should stick to dry-as-dust articles with no religious/ethnic/national/political implications :) These days, it's the articles on Purushottam Nagesh Oak and an acrimonious discussion at the Village Pump (policy) on the desirability of including caste info in Indian biographical articles. Bakasuprman et al. believe that I'm anti-Hindu. That's a strange charge to level against Bollywood-watching dal-eating me but ... I suppose it's like some US Republicans claiming that anyone who opposes them is anti-American and probably in the pay of Al Qaeda. (They'd hate me too; I have a jail record for demonstrating peacefully -- satyagraha -- against the Vietnam War.)

I'm convinced that a large part of the problem is structural. My own panacea is we should raise the bar on heavily edited articles. Say, once an article goes over 10,000 edits then you'd have to have been an editor for three months and done 2,000 edits before you could edit the article. People would have to earn the right to mouth off on controversial topics. It wouldn't shut down controversy (some opinionated and aggressive editors have high edit counts) but it would mute it somewhat. Zora 08:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Aww, sounds a bit tough. Yeah I agree that the bar for editing should be raised somewhat higher. Ekantik talk 04:14, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Ekantik, what are you talking about ???? Kkrystian 12:40 (UTC+1) 25 Dec 2006

I'd like to know why you thought it would be useful for Wikipedia to divide Category:Sathya Sai Baba into further divisions of Sai devotees and Sai activists? Do you think that such a division is useful for Wikipedia? Ekantik talk 04:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
What is wrong with it? If there can be a category page with famous Muslims (Category:Muslims) than why can't there be a category page with famous followers (or opponents) of SSB. Moreover, I considered this division into subcategories useful because before in the Category:Sathya Sai Baba there were lots of meaningless names and when I grouped them into two subcategories it was at once clear who was pro-SSB and who was anti-SSB. I hope that helps. Kkrystian 11:21 (UTC+1) 26 Dec 2006
Fair enough, but I might agree with Mel's suggestion of a speedy renaming at the very least. The split-ups are far too long and do not look tidy on article pages. As far as adding it on several articles, you could get away with it if it was small and unnoticed but, as Abecedecare said, their devotion to SSB is not a defining characteristic of their notability so it is troublesome. Ekantik talk 00:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Ekantik, please explain why do you first ask why Manmohan Singh should be listed as influenced by SSB and then ask me to add him to the category with famous followers of SSB. Kkrystian 19:37 (UTC+1) 26 Dec 2006

Where did I suggest that Manmohan Singh should be added? My point was that he should not be added because there is nothing tp prove that he is a follower of SSB. However, I am questioning the addition of Manmohan Singh to the category. Ekantik talk 00:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Ekantik, please explain the connection between my being a follower of SSB and between my creating that category and between your suggestion of deleting it. Kkrystian 20:29 (UTC+1) 26 Dec 2006

Due to your admission of being an SSB-follower, I can understand your enthusiasm to list several people as followers of SSB, leave alone setting up categories for the purposes of categorising them. However there is a serious question of notability and reliable sources. In your enthusiasm to categorise several people as followers of SSB you may have overlooked notability and RS. Ekantik talk 00:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

categories

When you move a proposal for a category rename to the category-deletion page, could you inform the proposer? It took me some time to discover that my proposal hadn't simply been deleted, and to uncover where it had been moved. The notice on the category page had not been changed either. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 00:19, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Mel, I'm afraid I have no idea what you are talking about? I didn't move anything to the best of my knowledge? Ekantik talk 04:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Aha, I have just seen that it was done by Kkrystian. Ekantik talk 04:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry; I jumped to conclusions as a result of being tired and in a hurry. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Kkrystian's Complaint

(My response copied from Thatcher's talk page, also on my talk page, and which I would appreciate you responding on my talk page instead of taking up Admin's valuable time.)

I wish to complain about Ekantik's behaviour. He is unfairly criticising and attacking me and my Wikipedia edits to Sathya Sai Baba-related articles. This is what he wrote on the User_talk:Mel Etitis:

:"Re the Category of Famous Anti SSB Activists, have you tried looking into whether such a category should even exist on Wikipedia? Shouldn't it be deleted or even renamed, given that the creator of the category (Kkrystian) has de facto admitted that he is a follower of SSB? Perhaps a COI consideration should be looked into?" Ekantik talk 04:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do something about this matter. Thanks in advance. Kkrystian 22:31 (UTC+1) 26 Dec 2006

Huh, what? Where did I "unfairly criticise" or "attack" you? I merely questioned your dividing of Category:Sathya Sai Baba (into 'follower' and 'opponent' categories) because I do not think that such a division is justified. I am surprised how you are making this frivolous complaint even after you have explained your rationale on my talk page (diff) and which I agreed with (diff) and made further suggestions about renaming. The question about your COI has been addressed there in line with WP policies and guidelines. However, it not looks like there are two other editors who are generally disagreeing with your recent category activity and your behaviour (See your talk page), and for the record, I'm uncomfortable with the way you don't take responsibility for your own edits by constantly constructing your arguments by referring to the what other editors (in this case SSS108) say. It also turns out that you have been making edits to renaming proposals and modifying my own comments on my talk page (diff), which is a strict no-no. Your activity has even led to other editors mistaking your edits for my own (See my talk page).
Perhaps you should take a small refresher course by taking the time to read WP:5, WP:T, and WP:NCH. You may also like to read WP:EQ. I'd also appreciate it if you could inform me on my talk page the next time you register a complaint or do anything where my response is required. I am copying this to your talk page and my own. - Ekantik talk 01:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Ekantik, please stop complaining about things that are totally irrelevant (such as my making a tiny edit to your talk page), accusing me for things I haven't done (such as your misunderstanding with Mel Etitis). You didn't "merely question" my dividing of the Category:Sathya Sai Baba, but you suggested removing it for the mere reason that I am a follower of SSB (as I have written on my user page). Please stop getting out of what you've done, criticising me for things that are irrelevant and not to the point and explain why you wrote this particular thing: "Shouldn't it be deleted or even renamed, given that the creator of the category (Kkrystian) has de facto admitted that he is a follower of SSB?". You're using an unfair strategy against my edits because it suits your POV. Kkrystian 11:52 27 Dec 2006
It may be your opinion that my comments are irrelevant; I happen to think that they are very relevant. It also appears that several other editors (and Admin) agree with my concerns. I already explained to you that I brought up your COI in the way of explaining to you that your overenthusiasm may not not necessarily benefit Wikipedia. Just because everyone else doesn't agree with your ways of editing, please don't take it out on me. And for the record, assume good faith. Your accusaiton of POV was unprovoked. Ekantik talk 04:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Cowman109Talk 17:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!

Hello, Ekantik, happy new year to you to! Man, you've got a neat looking userpage. Maybe I should work on mine to. :) Anyway, I don't think it's Ayesha Takia - there are so many impostors around. But on the other hand, you'll never know, right? Best regards, --Plumcouch Talk2Me 14:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

umm

I did not remove the Vodka stuff, I merely readded the ethnic community Shetty belongs to. You may be confusing me with Zora (talk · contribs).Bakaman 03:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll revert to your version, I was editing the wrong version.Bakaman 03:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much, apologies for any misunderstanding. To be honest I don't really care about the issue of her caste, remove or re-add that as you please as I don't think it's very important. On the other hand if her community (Bunt) is notable enough to merit it's own WP article then I agree with your opinion that it should be included. Ekantik talk 04:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Shilpa Shetty

I can cite no source for the simple reason that I know three of my friends had mailed her atleast on 20 distinct occasions to which she had never replied. Yes! they were not any marriage proposal but only questions about her acting craft sumal 05:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Well I guess that counts as original research. :) Ekantik talk 14:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary

OK Kkrystian 11:23 (UTC+1) 14 January 2007


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Unblock Granted

You said: "Hello Yamla, would you mind kindly explaining this to me? I ask because this user and I are parties in a current ArbCom case and I would like to know what caused this block in the first place. Is this a sockpuppetry case and if so, where can I find the 'Suspected Sockpuppetry' case record? Or whatever else were the reasons for the block. I've tried looking around but couldn't find anything. Thank you."

This was an autoblock. The user was affected by a block on another user, Consumed Crustacean (talk · contribs), as you can see here. If you haven't heard about autoblocks, you can read more about them at WP:AUTOBLOCK. It is possible these two users are in fact the same person but I had no evidence of this. I was not the blocking admin, only the autoblock-lifting admin in this case. --Yamla 15:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Lo kinsman!

Hey,

Its good to see nother British Indian here... I happened to see your exchange with Zora at Talk:Shilpa Shetty. I've tried to explain it to her that caste doesnt necessarily have racist connotations in India. She simply refuses to believe that caste is the primary identifying factor for many if not most Indians. He behaviour is getting a touch irrtating, i've stopped editing bolly articles! Amey Aryan DaBrood© 14:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Good to see you too. Yes I'm getting to know that this is something of a controversial issue. At Talk:Shilpa Shetty it appears that she admitted that there is nothing in WP policies as such and that she may have to seek something in that regard. Cripes! I shudder to think how many articles have been damaged using such illogic. Ekantik talk 03:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics/archive18#Caste_lists_vs._Caste_cats is the one I started and zora started one that I cant find but ended up with squat in the way of discussion. My definition of caste is the Brahmin, Kshat, Vaisya, Sudra. Bunt/Iyer/etc are closer defined as clans or tribes.Bakaman 00:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with those views. Ekantik talk 03:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume II, Issue 1 - January 2007

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PETA image

If you already have it written up or something, feel free to ask anyway. Then the full-size image could be used. Plus, more free content is always helpful. ShadowHalo 05:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! It's always good to see fair use material become free. ShadowHalo 03:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Good Work on films

Your welcome my friend. I have started compiling lists of missing films by country. An A-Z list of missing Indian films which haven't been sorted yet apart from the very beginning. First missing film on list was Aa Ab Laut Chalen which I started amongst others yesterday - I hope this is up to standards. I did contact a memebr of Indian cinema and I beleived that the list of missing films would be a very useful tool for your project but for some reason I kind of got abuse from him telling me that i am a complete waste of time! was very surprised to get that response particularly as I don;t think he is aware of my 35,000 contributions to the project. My work on India will be part of my global work on films by country (I have say that Indian film is very attractive) I have started with Argentina see Category:Argentine films there were only about 9 films 6 weeks ago and now there are almost 180 already! e.g El Crimen Del Padre Amaro a mexican-Argentine film was also started yesterday. I feel that Shilpa Shetty is a major name at the moment and with her name on the headlines I felt many red links on her page was not a good look for wikipedia. I'll start the miossing and develop her career paragraph laterErnst Stavro Blofeld 12:42, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Aa Gale Lag Jaa the second film of th missing list has also been started and I started Hathkadi earlier from Shilpa Shetty. I always try to find an image if I can Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I have started now started s number of earlier films for Shilpa Shetty Zameer: The Awakening of a Soul , Auzaar, Chhote Sarkar, Himmat, Hathkadi and Aao Pyaar Karen. I will start the remainders in the coming days. I ahve written it into her carrer section on her page. By the way the surpise nasty reaction I got was from User:Zora. I don't know what his problem is? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article/List of missing Indian Films. When I have time I wil sort through the entire list and red link all of the missing Indian films from wikipedia ready for starting. O foucrse many films not notable enough for an article will be rmeoved, Feel free to activate links and bullet point them all. I just started Aakrosh for Shilpa but I'll have to leave Indian film for a while now to continue with mapping out the missing articles an the rest of the other countries. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

no probs I was kind of surpised by the unprvoked response from Zora. I thought I was doing something of very good beneifit to Indian cinema! Shilpa's career section looking a bit better now. All the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Shilpa Shetty

Had a look at the link provided, so for now I have left the intro but I will continue to edit on that article whenever I feel the info provided is not right. -- Pa7 18:14, 26 Janaury 2007 (UTC)

Good work on Shilpa Shetty

Hey, you are doing an excellent job on Shilpa Shetty; why not add a picture to make it more wholesome? --Pinaki ghosh 19:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the compliments! I am currently looking for ways to add a picture because Wikipedia has very strict rules about what is admissible and what is not, but I'm getting there slowly. Thanks again!:) Ekantik talk 23:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Please used Preview

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. However, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thanks again. --Naohiro19(Talk Page/Contributions) 08:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Shilpa Shetty.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Shilpa Shetty.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

  1. Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
  2. On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or a similar) image under a free license, or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Yamla 15:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Please note that you were already informed this image violated WP:FU the last time you uploaded this image. You reuploaded it again without establishing why it would be impossible to create a free replacement (for example, Shetty is dead or in hiding). Please note that your violations may place Wikipedia in legal jeopardy. Please reread WP:FU. --Yamla 15:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

You said: "Hi there, just to let you know that I have responded on the image talk-page. I'd like to ask you to be patient with me as I am obviously new to the strict rules governing image uploads, so please be assured that if I "technically" commit a violation then it is most assuredly unintentional. In all fairness I expected a helpful explanation from you the last time around and did not receive one. I have explained all of this on the concerned talk-page and would be grateful for a response. Also, please advise on the correct procedure about gaining copyright permission from organisations. I have contacted PETA (India) and they have granted me permission to upload a certain image to Wikipedia with the sole provision that "PETA (India)" is credited. Please advise on how to go about doing this so that I do not commit any inadvertent violations."

You can read about how to request permission at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Note specifically that it is not sufficient to get permission just for the Wikipedia. As to the other image (I'm sorry, I forget which image it is), please note that we may only use freely-licensed images to depict living people. That is, an image released from copyright or one licensed under the GFDL or some such license. We may not use promotional images or images from films or posters or such, not if the subject is still alive. If you have any more specific questions, please ask. --Yamla 04:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks very much for that helpful explanation. I meant to say that I have already made the enquiries and permission has already been granted, so now I'll need to forward those emails to the WM Committee as per the link you gave, thanks again. The image in question is Image:ShilpaShettyPETA.jpg, and per ShadowHalo's advice I am just about to follow the procedure of informing the WM Committee that permission has been granted. Ekantik talk 02:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ask for help

Hi

Would you please do me a favor? I have seen you are a member of cinema wiki project. Then I would like to ask you to take a look at Abbas Kiarostami, an article that I am currently working on. I would like to have your comments to improve the article. Any helps will be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot for your time. Sangak 19:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi there!

Hello got your message. Thanks for your advice, I know which editor your referring to and for now I have decided to ignore anything that happens but if it goes too far then yes I will report the editor's behaviour. For now Im just sorting, referencing and creating articles. Also what question did you ask me a while back? Was it about Shilpa Shetty's article? Best regards -- Pa7 00:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Image question

You said: "I have just spotted this photo from Flickr and it looks reasonable enough to have been taken by the uploader and has an acceptable license, is this suitable for uploading to Wikipedia? Also, as the image seems to have too much background, it's ok if I crop this picture into some kind of close-up, right? As the license allows derivatives, this should be no problem isn't it?"

The license permits it. However, I have serious concerns about the source. The account has uploaded only this image. As such, we really would need additional confirmation that the uploader took this image with his own camera. That is, some evidence that this person is not simply taking credit for someone else's work. I'm not trying to be difficult here, it's just that this image was only uploaded yesterday by a person who has only this image as a contribution. It's more than a little dubious. --Yamla 05:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I'm not claiming any foul play on your part here, only that the person who owns the flickr account needs to be verified. --Yamla 05:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Re [5]

Please see my comments on Wikipedia_talk:Vandalism#Removal_of_.22Revert_Vandalism.22_section. Thanks. John254 06:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Auras

I'm afraid you're wrong. The view that auras are scientific is not only supported by Semyon Kirlian. It is also supported by other scientists. About a year ago I read about a Russian scientist conducting serious scientific research using the Kirlian camera. Krystian 19:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

If this is true, then feel free to search for that information and update the necessary Wikipedia articles with that scholarly information, specifically Aura (paranormal) and Kirlian photography. That would indeed be a valuable addition to Wikipedia. Ekantik talk 01:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Use of real names

You are hereby informed that I do not approve of my real name being used on Wikipedia, so I would appreciate it if you refrained from doing so on Wikipedia articles/talk-pages. I have taken the liberty of replacing my name from your comment to me at Talk:Sathya Sai Baba with my user name of 'Ekantik' (refactoring). Ekantik talk 18:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

HH Swami Saibabaexposedananda, it turns out that you have been making edits to renaming proposals and modifying my own comments on the Sathya Sai Baba talk page, which is a strict no-no. Do you know where I took the sentence in italics (in a slightly changed form) from? Krystian 19:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
No need to get clever, it is something I told you on my talk-page. However, I have already explained that I was taking the liberty of refactoring (See WP:REFACTOR for more information) your comment because you took the step of revealing my real name without my permission. Administrator Jossi did the same thing at Talk:Sathya Sai Baba when SSS108 violated this same principle (several times). If I was to assume good faith, I'd expect you to do it yourself, but since your second comment has revealed another of my off-Wiki aliases, I am finding it hard to assume good faith and have no choice but to expect further hostile treatment from you. However, I am supplying you with the following template for your edification about revealing private information on Wikipedia:
{{Pinfo4}}
Hope that helps. Ekantik talk 01:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
You really are funny. Krystian 09:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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