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Administrators' newsletter – May 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

removed Enchanter • Carlossuarez46

Interface administrator changes

removed Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Protection tags

Hey. Just wanted to let you know that MusikBot II was recently configured to automatically add protection tags (about a 10-min window), so there is no longer a need to add these manually. Regards, El_C 12:02, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi @El C, I actually knew that cause I see the bot adding tags. It's just what I do when I'm bored. I'll stop doing that and try to do something more productive. EN-Jungwon 12:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good, EN-Jungwon. Certainly, there's no shortage of WP:GNOME tasks to be done. Regards, El_C 12:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft: Mont Marte

Hi there,

If possible could you provide some specific feedback on which parts of the draft (if you can still view) were considered "unambiguous advertising". Just trying to clarify is it the mention of products? A draft was made in hopes that page could be edited to meet guidelines rather than be deleted. Also wondering do I need to declare COI on my user page? Currently just declaring as a paid employee. From my understanding a business page can be written by paid employee as long as it's declared and text meets guidelines i.e. isn't promotional. Thanks, anymore specific suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I would like to re-write my draft and want to ensure I am complying with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

Sophie at Mont Marte (talk) 01:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sophie at Mont Marte, Unfortunately, I can't see the deleted page history to see what text was added to the page. I did tag the page for speedy deletion but I removed the speedy deletion tag after I saw that you had declared COI. Maybe you could contact the deleting admin Jimfbleak and ask him why he deleted it. EN-Jungwon 04:31, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Good job reverting from a bad edits to a good edits DFW FAA Brianvators (talk) 16:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
@DFW FAA Brianvators, sorry for replying so late. Anyways thank you so much for the barnstar. EN-Jungwon 11:54, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Maldivean prez

Hi, and thanx for your quick reply!

SHame on me - first, I really, really checked if it was his presidential term (tenure) or his parliamentary term - twice - still, I made this amateurish mistake!

Another shame is that - after 10-12 years (out of which maybe 8-9 as a registered editor) here at Swedish/German/Dutch/Danish Wikipedia (I'm Swedish), I still don't know how to answer someone in Talks, and also don't know how to give a "Thank You" to somebody (like you...).

If you could give me a quick lesson (not necessarily today), or send me to the correct link for instructions, I'd appreciate it and your time.

Regards, Jörg Ausfelt

Besserwissern (talk) 11:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

@Besserwissern, you're welcome. If you want to know how to reply on talk pages see WP:TALKREPLY on the English Wikipedia or sv:Wikipedia:Diskussionssidor on the Swedish Wikipedia. If you want to know how to send a thank you notification see Help:Notifications/Thanks or de:Hilfe:Echo/Danke. Happy editing. EN-Jungwon 11:49, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Muslim?

EN-Jungwon...as you can see (?), I removed the part on you being a Muslim. I took for granted that you're Maldivean (and thus Muslim) - which I now see you are, but when I double checked your name, it read Jungwon which is Korean (and a Korean pop singer...), which is why I changed my mind and removed the part.

But now that I see you're actually living in The Maldives, I'm confused...I don't want you to think I did that editing out of fear or prejudice or whatever, I just thought you're South Korean and that the PS I wrote was pointless. Alright?

I won't disturb you anymore, I see you're "busy", as it says on your page...;-)

/J.

PS. Maybe you CAN'T see my editings on your Barnstar...?!?

PPS. I've ALWAYS signed my editing (in 10 years, I might've misssed out once or twice - but I doubt it), but I didn't see it as necessary under Talk. I was wrong. I still struggle with this side of editing at Wikipedia (I know I'm not answering at the right place right now...). I thought only you could read my comments directed at you. From now on I'll ALWAYS use it...besides, I'm not one bit interested in your (or anybody else's) personal life (mea culpa), but I was at The Maldives in a time (Feb./March '84...) when people still confused it with Las Malvinas, and when SCUBA diving wasn't a "thing"...and I'm also fully aware of the political unrest this nation has been experiencing every now and then during those 37 years (and that a "much bigger plane than normal" (Malaysia Airlines Flight 370?) was seen over the southernmost islands on that morning, 8 March 2014, when it disappeared, heading straigth toward Diego García...).

Sorry for my mistakes, I'm better at editing IMDb and Discogs, it's not that complicated (but there are more fights...) ;-)

Ddziękuję, J.

Besserwissern (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


Besserwissern (talk) 22:11, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

@Besserwissern, I would rather not talk about my personal life on Wikipedia. EN-Jungwon 05:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
@Besserwissern, that was my mistake. You actually did sign your comment. I was going to tell another user to sign their comment but ended up pinging you. Again I apologize for that. EN-Jungwon 14:33, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


EN-Jungwon, I was confused at first, but then I actually saw you wrote the same thing to that guy...everything is A-OK with me! I don't hurt easily...

Thanx for all your help,

Besserwissern (talk) 15:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Did I do it right? I got a Notice from you, pls. explain to me what you mean by it, and what I should do!

I just uploaded my first photo on Wikipedia. It's not a great photo, but it's mine...un fortunately, it says Minnsesskylt which is Swedish for Memorial Sign, or - rather - Memorial Board, although it's a stone. Mea culpa. I don't know if it's possible to change its name now...I already tried to no avail:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack#/media/File:Nice_Minnesskylt.jpg

It's a Memorial sign for the victims of the 2016 terror attack in Nice...I was there and in Monaco for 2 days (my b-day was spent - by myself - in Monte Carlo the following day, but not in the casino...). I walked outside the incredible Hotel Negresco and checked their €250, seven-course menu out in disgust, then walked the Promenade des Anglais, read the names of all the 86 dead, and by chance I found this sign on the gates to a closed museum (at 8PM) totally unbeknownst to me; Musée Masséna (I found it online today, on TripAdvisor), and then slowly walked home to my €45 a night hostel - "cheapest" in Nice - thinking of the victims (all the kids, their families...as well as my then 18-year-old daughter).

At the hostel, 30 mins. east of Negresco - which shares a building with/next to the Swiss church (!) that needs the extra money...I slept with 5 others (1 tall guy beneath me, 3 Taiwanese and Korean girls, and a tiny Japanese woman in her late 60s/early 70s in the room with 3 freakin' IKEA [!] bunkbeds to eat some of the stuff I'd bought in a nearby supermarket (on the 2nd day, the Japanese woman moved out, and a fat, loud French woman who was drunk didn't fit into her bed, thus had to sleep in a comfy chair...not so comfortable, but she slept like a baby and snored like my deceased grandma...). I had a hard time fitting in as well - I'm not tall (1,78), but a bit overweight and heavily set - and these bunkbeds are NOT for grownups...also, the A/C didn't help when people walked in and out all evening. I'm used to sleep at +17 degrees...experts say +16 is the best temperature to sleep in, plus it's suppposed to be QUIET and dark. It wasn't...

Nice and Monaco were HOT and humid even in late September, almost like in West Africa, Central America, Brazil, or Southeast Asia and India (or The Maldives and Sri Lanka...).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack

Sorry for my rambling...

/Jörg

Besserwissern (talk) 16:04, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

@Besserwissern, I did get your thanks notification. You can see the users you have sent thanks to over here. EN-Jungwon 05:53, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Metabolic gene cluster

MarioJarS(talk) I just though that content, a good deal of which I redacted, was better suited to the page of computational genomics, where I put it. But I am not at all opposed to it being in either page. MarioJarS(talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

@MarioJarS, please use the edit summaries next time you remove sourced content from a page. I saw that you are having trouble signing your comments. You can sign and date your comment by inserting ~~~~ at the end. If you are still having trouble signing see WP:SIGN. EN-Jungwon 04:44, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Delete Not Wikipedia Page

Sir, all the information in this is true and I have a certificate of all the courses I have done and this page is not copied from anywhere. YasirTech (talk) 01:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

@YasirTech, Wikipedia is not the place to promote yourself. Please see the user page guidelines for what should be included in your user page. Thanks. EN-Jungwon 06:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Park Sung-hoon (singer)

Could you please add the Template:WikiProject banner shell to Park Sung-hoon's talk page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Btspurplegalaxy (talk • contribs) 15:27, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@Btspurplegalaxy  Done EN-Jungwon 15:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

1938 Gordon state by-election

Regarding your edit to 1938 Gordon state by-election with the edit summary v2.04 - Fix errors for CW project (HTML text style element <b> (bold) - Template without correct beginning - Misnested tags). There was an error on the page (|via=Trove}} was duplicated at the end of a reference). What I reverted was the other 2 aspects of the edit (1) replacing the html tags <b></b> with wikimarkup. So far as I am aware the use of the HTML tags has not been deprecated and in this case there is an useful difference in their function - the page is transcluded using Template:Excerpt which changes wikimarkup bold to a link, which it doesn't do with the html tags. I have deliberately used this difference in this case. (2) removing the second set of <noinclude></noinclude> tags, which meant the article had a surplus set of closing brackets. I presume it was an error (we all make them) as I can see no reason why this would be done. --Find bruce (talk) 22:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@Find bruce, thanks for letting me know. EN-Jungwon 02:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Owen Hurcum

Hey, I can see you edited the nationality of Owen Hurcum, I am currently in the process of trying to get a consensus for the nationality on their talk page as it keeps bouncing between English, Welsh and British. If you would be would be willing to comment, so that there is a talk page consensus to use to end the edit war and stop vandalism that would be helpful! Dauwenkust (talk) 23:52, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dauwenkust replied on article talk. Thanks. EN-Jungwon 08:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Russification

Hi, can you get Ушкуйник checked? He does constant Russification of articles, he was warned and banned because of this multiple times, when I report him, a Russian Wiki mod, asks me to consider "Dispute Resolution"? Really? Maybe I should pinpoint his edits if both of you don't see any issues here? This, this, this, this, this? Can we get another, non-Russian mod, please?, I don't know why it's so hard for you to see his contributions. Anyway, apparently, there are tons of biased wiki mods and user.--212.191.80.214 (talk) 08:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Edit Request

Hello, This is Inyourarea123. I noticed that there's a LOT of missing informations about the List of Blackpink Awards and Nominations. Can I have a favor for edit request because I can't able to put it on the Main Table of the awards list. Thank you!

1.Break the Internet Awards (Paper Magazine) Award won: Kpop Sensation of the year(Blackpink)

Source: [1]

2.Guinness World Records Record holds: Most Subscribers for a band on YouTube

Source: [2]

3.Vevo Certified Awards Award Won: Sour Candy surpassed 100M views

Source: [3] [4]

4.SSE(SSE plc in Wiki) Live Awards Awards won: Best Group & Event of the year

Source: [5] [6]

5.Wowie(World of Wonder in Wiki) Awards Award won: Outstanding Collaboration of the Year(Sour Candy)

Source: [7]

6.YouTube Creator Award Award won: Diamond Play Button(10M Subscribers) & Ruby Play Button(50 Million Subscribers)

Source: [8] [9] Inyourarea123 (talk) 07:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@Inyourarea123, the Guinness world record has already been added. The other awards have already been discussed. Please check the talk page archives. EN-Jungwon 08:48, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

IP user(s) disrupting Love Myself (campaign) page

I'd like to bring to your attention 2 ips that recently disruptively edited the above article despite my warning+reverting 3 times. This is the first one and this is the second. I didn't check to see if both were coming from the same location or not. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 02:58, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie, they are both from the same /64 range so it's likely the same editor. If they continue to edit war then warn them and report to ANEW. EN-Jungwon 03:22, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

TXT discog question

Only1greenyoshi insists on repeated edits like this and this with regards to BHE/BHM and the Rep Records name. I have explained more than once to them but they continue to ignore me and do what they want despite the redirect being okay and the full RR not being necessary every single time it's used. Idk what else to do. I can't revert because I exceeded 3RR earlier today wo realizing, and if I change it they'd probably just change it again. Would you mind terribly keeping an eye on it or maybe reaching out to them on their talk page if you have the time? Then again, now I have to wonder if this would be considered me trying to micromanage that page too. Maybe I should just ignore it? God I'm so hesitant to say anything about anything now after that. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 19:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie, I'll keep my eyes on the article. I don't think any discussion with Only1greenyoshi will lead to anything. On a side note if you are having to deal with edit conflicts use the paragraph-based edit conflict feature in the beta features tab of your preferences. It can help out a lot when dealing with edit conflicts. Happy editing. EN-Jungwon 17:35, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@EN-Jungwon: yes their history doesn't show them really listening to or acknowledging any talk page notices left by other editors but I still mentioned that just in case a notice was necessary at some point.
I enabled the option like you suggested even though idk how much good it will do me on mobile. Thanks for recommending it. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 22:28, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

It does not meet criteria for speedy deletion

AG Rud page DOES NOT meet these criteria. I do not see a contest button anywhere so sorry to ask here. Agrudjr (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Agrudjr

Agrudjr (talk) 15:36, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Agrudjr Sorry...need coffee. My page is legitimate. All I want to do is add myself as influenced by William A Earle. I can find someone to edit the page on AG Rud later IFF it is necessary. -AGR

Hi @Agrudjr. I didn't tag AG Rud for speedy deletion. I tagged Agrudjr/sandbox under WP:CSD G2. I then removed the speedy deletion tag and moved the page to your userspace because I thought you meant to create it in your userspace and instead created it in mainspace by mistake. After moving the page to your userspace, I CSD tagged Agrudjr/sandbox under WP:CSD R2. After I tagged it for R2 you moved the page to AG Rud and it appeared that I tagged AG Rud for speedy deletion but I had actually tagged Agrudjr/sandbox. Sorry for the confusion. EN-Jungwon 15:54, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Talk

Hi Knownstranger.bd (talk) 08:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

added Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless
removed Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hello Jungwon,

I received the information that the page I created (X Ray Doors) is against the rules and therefor it is deleted. I was wondering why, as a lot of companies and brands use Wikipedia to present their company and their products? It can or it can not be marked as a promotional, which is the subject of personal view. In any case, please tell me what was wrong and suggest how the page can exist but to be by the rules. Thanks in advance.

BR.X Ray Doors (talk) 06:32, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@X Ray Doors, I left a message on your talk page EN-Jungwon 07:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Vajrakilaya

I believe the copying is the other way around. This text was in Kila (Buddhism), contributed by the editor B9 hummingbird hovering (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). Said editor was active 2007 and was blocked in 2010. Material was subsequently copied from Wikipedia to that blog in 2013. Possibly the original contributor republishing "their" articles post-block... In any case, the material was contributed to Wikipedia pre-2010 so can't be a copy of that 2013 WordPress blog post. Skyerise (talk) 18:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

See this revision of Kila (Buddhism) dated 16 April 2010‎. Skyerise (talk) 18:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I added the {{backwardscopy}} to the talk page, if you could just please restore the revisions. Thanks! Skyerise (talk) 19:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Skyerise, I have restored your edits.. My bad for not looking into it. Happy editing. EN-Jungwon 07:35, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Skyerise (talk) 11:57, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Larry A. Wasserman

I'm confused. First, I note you been very active in copy patrol recently and I want to thank you for that. I see that you recently worked on Larry A. Wasserman and requested and RD1. However, I don't see any sign that you remove the copyrighted text. Am I missing something?--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Sphilbrick, Capolitsch added copyrighted content in this edit (copyvios report) and in the next edit they removed/changed the content (copyvios report). Here is the link to the case on CopyPatrol. EN-Jungwon 15:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
EN-Jungwon, OK S Philbrick(Talk) 15:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Policy

You are not following policy of Wikipedia and should be Thrown out of the project Manypeoples (talk) 07:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

@Manypeoples could you specify which policy you are talking about. EN-Jungwon 09:05, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dalla Dalla

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Dalla Dalla you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of -ink&fables -- -ink&fables (talk) 01:41, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dalla Dalla

The article Dalla Dalla you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Dalla Dalla for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of -ink&fables -- -ink&fables (talk) 17:42, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

SPI of interest

This may interest you, as I noticed you also nominated one of the users' userpages for WP:U5 speedy: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JoannaLetren. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:04, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding my edit of the Everglow Wikipedia page.

Hello, i do not understand this as "ΣVΣRGLOW" is a legit way of styling the word Everglow. This can be proven by the Everglow logo. DylanArme (talk) 14:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Request writing about Isabelle de Charrière (Q123386)

Hello EN-Jungwon, Would you like to write / translate the article about Isabelle de Charrière (Q123386) for the DV Wikipedia? That would be appreciated. Boss-well63 (talk) 12:32, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

@Boss-well63 I don't really edit dvwiki anymore. Maybe Glacious can help you with that. EN-Jungwon 13:41, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Request to add my information back

hello, i realised that you removed my edits I did today (this is my second account because i forgot my password). hmm i added more information on snow kong, and it’s actually true because she joined jyp in 2012 and left in 2014 (she trained with twice’s members too). she was also in the list of cosmic girl, you can Google it too. and for the members, there is no actual position. it’s weird that you added “Dancer” because every member is a Dancer. however, i strongly disagree that you placed dancer beside esther and not for other members because she is the weakest member in dance. hence, i removed it. i added “sub-Dancer” for zhao xiao tang and k lu instead (according to how kpop idols rank their position: main, lead, sub). i added that snow kong is the visual, she even went onto 热搜 in weibo. she is the visual along with kiki. she is also the sub-vocalist like you can realise in <hello>, she sang one of the part and is usually given the sub singer position for all THE9 song. hence, i don’t think i did any mistake of editing the thing. if you disagree with me, you can leave me a message 1a2b3c456 (talk) 14:53, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

@1a2b3c456 please cite a reliable source for the information you want to add. EN-Jungwon 15:24, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Short Descriptions

Can you please stop adding Short Descriptions such as a Category 4 tropical cyclone based on the SSHWS category. This is because most systems do not offically get rated on the Saffir-Simpson scale outside the North Eastern Pacific or Atlantic Basins. As a result you could be confusing readers when you call something a Cat 4 TC, when it was a Cat 5 on the Aus Scale which is the primary scale in the SHEM. Thanks Jason Rees (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@Jason Rees I have removed the category part in the description from articles that don't have the Aus Scale. Very sorry for causing confusion and thank you for letting me know. Happy editing. EN-Jungwon 13:28, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Request review for Switch On Article

Hello,

Sorry to bother you. Would you please mind looking at my draft Draft: Switch On. I saw that you were one of the users who edited/updated an article for a Kpop band Astro. It keeps getting rejected and I am unsure why that is. I've followed the notability music article but it still seem to keep getting rejected and I have posted legitimate sources. Please help.

Thank you Lilylovesreading19 (talk) 18:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@Lilylovesreading19, See the comments at the Teahouse EN-Jungwon 04:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Referring to an artist by their correct name.

Hi there, thank you for your message about my changes to the Lee Taemin article. I appreciate it if you could explain the logic behind the difference between how this artist’s article is treated as opposed to American and more well known artists like Rihanna or Beyoncé and many more on Wikipedia. They all are referred to with the name their agency and official albums and websites use for them and not their last name. If the issue is with the title of the article (as another person mentioned in the talk section), then should I create an entire article with title “Taemin”? It seems a bit discriminatory that he isn’t treated the same way the more famous artists are treated. Thanks. AceTaem (talk) 02:55, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

@AceTaem please see MOS:SURNAME. If you want the article to be renamed then you can open a move request. EN-Jungwon 03:03, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Speedy delection - User: Gustavogfirmino's Sandbox

Dear Jungwon, good day.

I'm reaching out to you regarding the sandbox page that I updated yesterday. It's my first time writing on Wikipedia, so I am still learning the process.

I got a notification today that the page was deleted (speedy deletion). I'm reading the feedback about the criteria which the page was deleted, so I can correct the mistakes.

I'd like to know if I could retrieve the draft that I had written, so I don't need to start from scratch. I will correct the issues and try publishing again later.

Appreciate your attention to this. I spend a long time writing the page, so I'd really appreciate to get the text back (even if through email), so I can start make the adjustments required for publishing it again.

Thanks in advance for your support.

Regards, Gustavo Firmino

Gustavogfirmino (talk) 10:36, 8 August 2021 (UTC) Aug 8th, 2021

@Gustavogfirmino you can make a request at WP:REFUND EN-Jungwon 11:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

confused

Hi, I'm very confused about what happened.

I created a page and have been waiting for it to be approved or not.

Then I just got a message from you saying it was tagged for deletion because of plagiarism.

I went to look and saw that someone else had added a ton of plagiarized content to what I wrote.

I wrote a message contesting the deletion, asking if we could revert to my original draft and get rid of the plagiarism that way.

But it seems like the article has already been deleted.

So I don't know what I should do or should have done about this. It bothers me that the article that I worked on is just gone because someone else came in and added a lot of things to it that they shouldn't have.

Arrowyn (talk) 18:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

@Arrowyn you can ask for the page to be restored at WP:REFUND. You should explain what happened and an administrator will look into it. EN-Jungwon 18:05, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
The article, minus the copyrighted content, has been restored. Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Removing Good articles from Wikidata

Hi EN-Jungwon, I notice you have been maintaining Good article removals on Wikidata. I am not sure how you do this, but I tried removing the Good article icon for Phedina (Wikidata:Q931465), and it says I do not have permission. Thought you may know the secret, CMD (talk) 14:40, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis it's because of the redirect. I get the same error when trying to remove the good article badge from redirects. You'll need to remove the redirect and then remove the badge on Wikidata. I have done that for the page that you specified. EN-Jungwon 14:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Ah, thank you. The Wikidata error message is quite misleading in that case. I'll proceed with this new knowledge in mind, best, CMD (talk) 14:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

Yeah i did forget to add in a source for that but i don't have plans on putting that addition back on for the moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HavocPlayz (talk • contribs) 21:31, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Wannabe (Itzy song)

Quote length

Can we discuss this edit?

I understand that Wikipedia:Quotations is an essay and thus doesn't have the same force as a policy or even a guideline, but I think it is good advice. I have personally reverted material in quotation marks or block quotes if I felt it was excessively long even if my sense was it might survive litigation. My impression, which I fully support, is that we ought to draw a line tougher than might be acceptable within the law.

However, this particular quote is 75 words long, and doesn't strike me as so long that it ought to be removed for copyright reasons. (I'll emphasize that I haven't considered the editorial question of whether the quote is appropriate in the context of the article – that's an editorial decision that should be considered separately from the copyright issue.)

I'm not inclined to remove the quote, and not comfortable applying RD1. I'm open to discussion, and I'm going to also ping @Diannaa: who has more experience in these areas.

Having said that, I have noticed your username popping up often in RD1 requests, so I do appreciate your interest and involvement in an area that probably doesn't get a lot of thanks. Thanks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:21, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Addition ping to @TheresNoTime:--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:24, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick, honestly I wasn't aware of that essay. I agree that a 75-word quote doesn't need revdel and I've had Diannaa decline some of my revdel requests if the copyvio issue is some short quotes. I don't know why I keep requesting revdel for quotes even though I had those kinds of requests declined in the past. I'll be more careful about this issue. @TNT can you unhide these revisions please. EN-Jungwon 08:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the response and your understanding. I'll let TNT undo, but if that doesn't happen, I'll take care of it. S Philbrick(Talk) 11:33, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: Apologies, this was a "looks good to me" RD - I've undone my revision deletion. Onus is absolutely on me for these actions, but could/should disputed {{copyvio-revdel}} templates be removed whilst they're being discussed? Saves my over-eager backlog clearing! Many thanks to all for looking out for these cases though, really appreciated ~TNT (she/they • talk) 16:52, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
TheresNoTime, Been there done that. You look at some text in an edit, make sure it matches or closely matches some other site, make sure that of the site is subject to copyright and doesn't have an acceptable license, and it seems like you're good to go.
That said I'm not fully sure I understand your question. It may just be a timing issue – I looked at the request and started to act on it decided there was something that didn't look right and opened the discussion with the editor who requested the RD 1, but you took care of it before I'd heard a response. I'm always open to improve processes but not seeing a simple alternative. S Philbrick(Talk) 19:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Relationship status of Joy

Regarding Joy (singer) page, many of her fans want her relationship status removed from her wikipedia as it was leaked against her will and is not relevant to her career or overall life in general. Moonbiting (talk) 02:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Moonbiting Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fansite that has what "fans want". The content is supported by reliable sources. If you want it to be removed then start a discussion on the articles talk page. EN-Jungwon 13:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Draft

Hello EN-Jungwon, You recently dropped a helpful comment on my article draft. Thanks for that. Could you help provide guidelines on how to submit my article for review?

Thanks.DP352 (talk) 15:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@DP352 you can place {{subst:submit}} on the page. Make sure you do this in the source editor. EN-Jungwon 03:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Music Bank

Hi EN-Jungwon, would like ask you about Music Bank article pertaining to the K-Chart section, I'm currently in the mist of cleaning up the individual dropdown list for overlinking (basically retaining/linking the first mention) however just want to check if I'm allowed to exercise BOLD by changing the entire individual list from 1998–2005 to table formatting for each dropdown as the date listed for each individual list (1998–2005) isn't compliance with MOS date formatting guidelines. In addition, the benefit of table is that, repeated entries can be merged hence reducing the number of times, it was written. The only differneces compared to the table in 2006 till 2021 is the lack of Episode and points column, would that be okay? What is your thoughts of such conversion/cleanup? — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll I don't think it will be an issue if you change it to table format. I am more inclined to remove it as it has been unsourced since their initial addition to the article, like @Carlobunnie did on M Countdown in this edit. Maybe we can start a discussion on the talk page. EN-Jungwon 14:05, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
@EN-Jungwon Now that you mention it, it does seem reasonable to remove it since I highly doubt there would be any sources available. The circumstances seem similar to the discussion on M Countdown. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
I think Inkigayo should be included as well if there is discussion to be open, both have the same issues of being unsourced. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

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So

Either I stink (true), or I'm from the same Greek island as Sappho (no) . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Template:Eris emo

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If you see a page like this, that is clearly not a template, in the future please move it to Draft or User space. It was clearly just put in the wrong name space and doesn't need to be deleted. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:57, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion

Please detail why my page has been removed from Wikipedia. I have worked tirelessly to put up all my work and references in there just so it gets taken down for no reason? I want a clear explanation why you think that was fair. Thank you! Mono Mode (talk) 06:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Responded here -FASTILY 07:17, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
@Mono Mode, like Fastily said, Wikipedia is not the place to promote yourself. Please see the userpage giudlines and if you have any more questions feel free to ask me or at the teahouse. Happy editing. EN-Jungwon 12:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Kep1er (Music Group)

Instead could you have it deleted? Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 20:15, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@Btspurplegalaxy, the CSD nominations have been declined by two admins so the best thing to do would be to start an AfD discussion. EN-Jungwon 01:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

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You always reverting my changes about Metropolitan Homoeopathic Medical College and Hospital. There is no copyright issue now. If i added founder name, you removed it because of copyright??!! Strange!!. If next time it happen , i will take legal action. Thanks for your contribution. Avidiptahazra (talk) 13:23, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Brand new logo for Warner Music Group

I work for Warner Music Group. I see you have contributed in the past to the Warner Music Group article. There’s a brand new logo for WMG. I uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons as the representative of the company, but I know I’m not supposed to directly edit Wikipedia articles when I have a conflict of interest. Would you be able to take a look at the request to swap out the old logo and logo caption at Talk:Warner Music Group/Archives/2021#Help switching to new logo ? Thank you so much for your consideration.Music2022 (talk) 00:07, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Music2022, it looks like MB has already answered your request. EN-Jungwon 15:12, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey...

...do you know where this shit comes from? Is this some thing going around on internet forums or something like that? Because all I can do is block the IPs; if it gets worse, please ask for semi-protection at WP:RFPP, and tell them I agree. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

@Drmies I wish I knew. Another IP made the same edit a few hours ago. Some people really don't have anything better to do. EN-Jungwon 09:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks--I semi-protected the article. Drmies (talk) 15:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Problems with the Draft:Haechan

Hi, I'm not sure this is the right place to ask, but someone is editing the draft with information not related to it and I'm not sure how should I address it, I tried to post a message on their talk page but nothing. I hope I'm not bothering you, thank you in advance! Poirot09 (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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Just to clarify

This is just for fun lol but ... wow I never knew Enhypen Jungwon has a Wikipedia account! :0 Typhoon2013 (talk) 21:23, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@Typhoon2013 oh no! I have been exposed. I should've used a username that wasn't obvious. lol. I have been thinking about getting a rename. Maybe next year. EN-Jungwon 13:25, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

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Inkigayo edit

Hello EN-Jungwon, this is Latteeeeeoo. I am very new to editing in wikipedia, and I thought that a group was missing in the inkigayo chart, so I decided to add it to the chart. From my research, GOT7 has ever scored 13,945 points in inkigayo with the song Hard Carry (their 3rd win). So that’s why I added GOT7 there. Sorry, if it was actually a mistake, but I would like to hear your view about it. And also, I’m not really good at writting letters hehe. That’s all, thankyou.

Update: After some more research, some people said that it was because that inkigayo made a mistake with the live voting score and they later corrected the score. So yes, they are actually not one of the top ten with the highest score in inkigayo.

Latteeeeeoo (talk) 16:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Latteeeeeoo, I had checked the 2016 list and Got7 only got 9,185 points. I am unaware of any miscalculations in the scores. EN-Jungwon 15:43, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Hedge and Donna

Please stop making incorrect edits. One of the duo is living, and so living=yes should be applied. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ghmyrtle I apologize for not realizing that you had previously reverted my edit. I was going through a list I got on petscan. The page is in the category "2019 deaths" so it appeared in the list. I didn't realize the page was about a duo and saw "(November 13, 1946 – November 21, 2019)" in the article and thought the article was about a deceased person. Again I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused and thank you for your understanding. Happy editing. EN-Jungwon 15:41, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
No problem. It seems to be a problem with bots as I had the same issue with another one. Oh well... Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Regards

Hello. I'm Ken. Thank you for disabling the categories from my sandbox. I actually knew how to do that, and have did that many times I copied something to my subpage. This time I forgot to add colons because I was busy with my personal life activities, and only edited when it was necessary. Once again, thank you! Ken Tony Shall we discuss? 08:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Ken Tony, you're welcome. I was just going through Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories (2) and disabling categories on all draft and user pages. EN-Jungwon 08:14, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Rcats

Hi! I noticed you accepted some redirects at WP:AFCRC. Please also tag the redirects with the relevant redirect categories (rcats). Thanks! ― Qwerfjkltalk 11:48, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and done that. Thanks for letting me know. EN-Jungwon 11:52, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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