User talk:Dweller/Archive20

Thank you for your work at FAC during April

		The Content Review Medal of Merit
		To Dweller, For your exceptionally thorough reviews of Featured article candidates during the month of April, the FAC community and I thank you for the extra attention you gave to several candidates and for your dedication to helping assure that only Wiki's finest work is recognized on the Main Page.[1] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some things

a) Thanks for everything. b) Last Test and first para of Aftermath is light on reference.... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I'm the administrator User:Dweller on the English language wikipedia. Using the new unified accounts, I have the same username on nearly all Wikipedias. But not this one! I see that there is a user registered with that name, but the account has just one edit ever, in 2006. I wondered if you could rename it so that I can take over the name, and avoid people pretending to be me? Please respond to Please respond to my English language Wikipedia talk page Many thanks. --194.176.105.39 09:37, 1 Mayıs 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dweller. I've just renamed that username@trwiki, now tr:Kullanıcı:Dweller is free. You can proceed by SUL. If you have any problems just leave me a message. Bye. --Mskyrider (talk) 13:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pl.wikipedia - rename

I'm very sorry, but your request cannot be granted right now. The user whose nickname is dweller has made contributions in the article namespace and according to our current policy usernames with edits cannot be usurped. The policy is expected to be changed so as to fit the current circumstances, but at the moment there is nothing that could be done. Sir Wolf (talk) 19:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of anthems by country

Gary King (talk) 19:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Achtung! Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of anthems by country Gary King (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template help?

Hey can you maybe help me out with some template stuff I'm trying to work out. You can see the details at WT:FOOTY. -- Grant .Alpaugh 19:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Word, will do, thanks. -- Grant .Alpaugh 13:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WI-Eng 88

"Tight bowling" may not be obvious to the non-cricketer. Need to link somewhere, or use different words.
- Done --Dweller (talk) 11:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Essex 36 year-old off-spinner John Childs made his debut, the oldest England debutant for 40 years" - If I were reading it, I would be curious to know who the other guy was. Would be good to add it among the references. I think it is Dick Howorth in http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Scorecards/18/18238.html but please confirm.
- No idea - the RS doesn't say. --Dweller (talk) 11:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Apart from Pringle, who played in the First and Second Tests, none had played in the series so far," - what des this mean ? (we are talking in the context of the fourth Test)
- Good spot. Clarified. --Dweller (talk) 12:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Was Gower dropped or was he injured for the fifth Test ?
- Done. Cited, too. --Dweller (talk) 12:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tintin 05:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/stats/index.html?agemin1=36;ageval1=age;class=1;debut_or_last=1;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;spanmax2=15+Mar+1989;spanmin2=01+Aug+1947;spanval2=span;team=1;template=results;type=batting;view=match it is quite clear that Howorth was the previous 36+ debutant, and a simple lookup will tell you that he was older than Childs. I don't know if someone will raise the OR flag against it !! Tintin 12:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's outstanding. I'll add it. --Dweller (talk) 12:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overhaul of FL criteria

I've re-started the process here and am notifying the four candidates for director as well as advertising at FLC talk and FAC talk. Your input would be valued. Tony (talk) 05:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Trumble FAC

It has taken me all Saturday but I think I have addressed most of the points you have raised. There are some where we don't agree and your feedback on these is sought. Thanks again for the review. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 13:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 04:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your name in Russian wikipedia

Hello! I've sent an e-mail to the current Dweller. If he will not respond in a week, I'll rename his account, and than Dweller will be free for you to use.

Greetings, ru:Участник:Kneiphof —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.180.234 (talk) 18:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Dimond

Just so you know, a new editor, User:Jnsds has tried to delete the prod tags - caused me all kinds of confusion as I was looking for the Afd at the time! You might also be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bro. Michael Dimond from last year. FlagSteward (talk) 19:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ach, of course you can't restore prods, I did know that really. But it looks like my vandalism flag on his Talk page triggered some pretty speedy action by someone. :-))) Just as well, I'm in the middle of a mega AWB session and really had better things to do than faff around with an AfD.... FlagSteward (talk) 19:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oily fish

Actually, I'm yet to go - flying out in a day or so until this Sunday, just think I'll be real busy until then so posted my bye-bye note early. As for FLC, well let me see.... not talking about ITFC today, but at least we did our bit, just poxy Watford and Wolves got in the way.... oh, and we made Hull look rubbish so no hope for them if they make the Prem... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This one is right up your boulevard. No comments at all for several days, I PR'd it a while ago. Go help... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and thirdly, there's a list of ICC members floating around at FLC. I namechecked you as someone who would be happy to review and copyedit - I'm not blown away by the prose. See what you think.... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FAC first? And you running for FL director? You're a feature tart.... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only kidding. Good result for your boys? Plus Huckerby out? What next...? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bring it on! I think it'll be our third main page? NCFC, Bobby Robson and this one? The Rambling Man (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reign of Chaos Band

Hi Dweller, I don't suppose you could restore this article, as I was in the middle of taking it to AfD (the article at least indicate's some importance, but I want to query the references provided through AfD; also I don't think Speedy G2 was the right criteria to delete it under.) Thanks, Marasmusine (talk) 13:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused. I've not speedied the article, and I don't think anyone else has, either. I've speedied two vandalisms of the prospective AfD page - I don't think I should recreate them. You can create a good version for yourself! --Dweller (talk) 13:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of International Cricket Council members

I fixed up the Lead by ading some background information of the ICC. Hopefully, that fixes the problem. I'd appreciate you re-reviewing the Lead section of this article.Black hole77 ^{talk | contrib} 00:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FLRC

I was wondering if you would be interested in running WP:FLRC. I am also asking Matthewedwards and if you are both interested, you could co-run it. It really doesn't require two people, but you could also comment and look for unworthy lists (especially amond the early promotions). If you do want to do it, let me know. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 02:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not in the Least

Thank you. I'm limited to 30 minutes per day as part of my rehab. program. Nope --- it was self-induced obsession which lead to the melt down. No one but myself to blame for the addiction and the 3:00 am battle of wills. It's amazing how Wikipedia can impact your "real life". I think it was a good idea to back away ... for some reason the gasoline I was pouring on the fire only seemed to make it blaze higher?! --- go figure. Perhaps we all should have heeded your advice. I noticed that a few others closed shop about the same time that I hit the delete key. However, the FA star was priceless and I think the article itself represents an incredible amount of collaboration despite the bloodstains on the discussion tab. No small task considering the topic and the general opposition to Introductory articles. For now I think I will focus on obscure freshwater minnows that absolutely no one gives a shit about! There is a million stubs out there that rookies like myself can improve on. Cheers! --JimmyButler (talk) 03:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Morning. So the vandalism hasn't been as bad as I expected. I guess when Eastern seaboard wakes up then we'll get the big hit...! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(a) Not sure who takes precedence in main page summaries. No reason why you shouldn't modify it, you're an admin and you can be bold. Be very careful though, lots of exposure! (b) FLRC, why not? The Rambling Man (talk) 10:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ngo Dinh Can

Ready I think, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed again. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:FLRC

I don't know if it would necessarily mean beaing an official director. I was just looking for some users who could take care of the process. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll try my best. As for you and Matthewedwards and FLRC, I'm going to post the announcement and let others post their thoughts, but before I do that I'm going to wait for Rambling Man to return so I can get his thoughts. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Featured list criteria

Dweller,

I wonder if you'd like to comment on the latest two proposed drafts of the criteria by Tony and myself. Please suggest any changes you'd like and what aspects you prefer. Colin°^Talk 08:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amusing snippet which should make its way into Bradman article

..a regular Bradman with a sword

- Merlin on Sir Lancelot
from The Once and Future King, by T. H. White (Merlin lives through time backwards and is hence knowledgeable about the Don....) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not So Happy

It wasn’t an advertisement; we were using this as a presentation, demonstrating the use of technologies, this was for work purposes and it was a user page, how am I going to advertise a “USER PAGE” it was only being edited by me and a colleague. I want all the information back. VidMOB (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really appreciate the gesture, I was not aware of the guidelines other than for adding information with citations etc… I have a copy of all the information now. Thank you - it was spur of the moment decision to use wikipedia. VidMOB (talk) 14:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Got a few minutes?

I'm trying to get a 3rd opinion on my almost-sure-to-fail FA for National Ignition Facility. In the first FA back in '06 the comments on the prose were generally positive. Since then I've made vast improvements (IMHO). Yet this FA is dominated by complaints about the prose. Seeing your comments in another FA make me think you're the go-to guy for this? Maury (talk) 17:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you suggest a way that I can get this fixed? Every reviewer commented about the prose, but simply put, I don't see it. So someone else needs to take a look at it. Where can I go to have this addressed in a timely fashion that might make it in time for the FA close? This is assuming the copyright issue is solved, which appears extremely unlikely. Maury (talk) 18:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NCFC

You think it's time to put a stop to the ridiculous edit war over exactly when everyone's contract expires yet? (Have attempted to start a discussion but I'm not exactly holding my breath for a reply.) TRM's currently away, so I guess it's down to us if there's any stepping in to be done. — iridescent 00:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FL director

Hey dude. Hope you had a decent weekend... hot enough? Turns out that South England is hotter than Sardinia so that's a laugh. Anyway, I managed to get this FLD thing and you popped by to say "nice one" which I appreciate. I may call on your expertise in the next few weeks, and I need to mail you about my "availability" in the next few weeks so be prepared for that. Anyway, more later in the week... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FLRC

If you still would like to be in charge of the process, it's yours. Matthewedwards (who is away for the next week or so) said he is also interested, so perhaps you two could work something out so that one of you handles the closing, and another looks for potential candidates and does some reviewing. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 19:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FLRC

Dweller—I can't see any announcement about the closers, and thought it was to be you and Matthewedwards. Can you confirm? Tony (talk) 14:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just saw Scorpion's message above. So can you still confirm? The instructions need to be updated. Tony (talk) 14:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rfb participation thanks

Hello, Dweller.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. I especially wanted to thank you for participating in the post-closure 'crat chat discussions. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. As you felt the need to remain neutral, I would appreciate any particular thoughts advice you may have as to what flaws in my candidacy you perceived and how you feel they may be addressed. Once again, thank you for your participation. -- Avi (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

email i sent

check your email verified in your preferences. from zh:user:pubuhan.--Pubuhan (talk) 08:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A request for help

Ever reached the stage where you've read through an article so many times that you can no longer recognise the most elementary of mistakes? That's the state I've reached with Georgi Kinkladze. From comments at its FAC it is clear that there are still prose issues, so I'm looking for somebody familiar with football to have a quick run through the text. Any chance you could help, or point me in the direction of someone who could? Oldelpaso (talk) 09:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice ode...

Hey, how's it going? Thanks for the ode. It was, well, delightful. I'm curious. Do you want me to go through and cite web every reference or just the new ones which you're (lazily) adding? The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dweller that was atrocious :P but yes I will try my best to help. The Don needs a star. SGGH ^speak! 13:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't do odes. Can do limericks...

The Don was a great Australasian The pride of a cricketing nation But his achievements all paled When his FAR failed For the want of an inline citation.

Johnlp (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, limerick time. Problem with that is that I've got the last innings "duck" in mind so I'm boggling to think of something decent/clean to rhyme with it...! Luck, duck, **** The Rambling Man (talk) 19:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phoebe Harford‎

I think the speedy tag that was there referred to the "original" content. Although after I removed the attack portion in the newly created article what is there now was all that is left. I've had a look at Google and had 0 ghits for "Phoebe Harford" I've been looking to tag as hoax based on that but, hadn't found the correct template. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of International Cricket Council members

Can you take a few minutes to rerereview the article, especially the Lead. I have added in more citations, as you have suggested. Black hole77 ^{talk | contrib} 21:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming collaboration will need admin oversight

I'm going to attempt to run the largest collaboration I've coordinated (or co-coordinated) to date, in about 2 months. It will be bigger than the WP:TOTD, the Help page redesign, or even the Main page redesign.

It will need an admin or three on hand to help make sure things remain civil, to monitor the 200+ drafts involved, etc.

Are you game?

The Transhumanist 06:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New request

Hi, Dweller, I saw your message. Some way above it, at The Elven Queen Sails into the West, Clio says farewell, but she also says "I may come back from time to time to see how things are, but I can't be certain". A whole host of people (foolishly, if you ask me) have said tragic farewells as if it's goodbye forever. Bibliomaniac15, the ass, even says "...I find it fitting to give you (hopefully) your last message in this talk page". All of this seems to me to make it bloody hard for poor Clio to put her head around the door, and I strongly suspect she's missing the place already. Would you mind (please) not joining in the chorus and instead look forward to the return? Greetings from Xn4 14:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I replied here. Xn4 14:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thank-spam

Dweller/Archive20, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks! Gatoclass (talk) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dweller :) Gatoclass (talk) 08:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:HAU has a new format

Due to popular demand, HAU has a new look. Since the changes are so dramatic, I may have made some mistakes when translating the data. Please take a look at WP:HAU/EU and make sure your checkmarks are in the right place and feel free to add or remove some. There is a new feature, SoxBot V, a recently approved bot, automatically updates your online/offline status based on the length of time since your last edit. To allow SoxBot V to do this, you'll need to copy [[Category:Wikipedians who use StatusBot]] to your userpage. Obviously you are not required to add this to your userpage, however, without this, your status will always be "offline" at HAU. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kinkladze

Just a copyedit I think. The FAC failed earlier today. It didn't get many comments, but the outstanding oppose was in relation to prose. Normally I manage OK with copyediting and prose issues, but the number of examples raised took me by surprise, making me realise that I'd become far too familiar with the text to copyedit it with any objectivity. I'll have to explore further avenues for feedback before renominating it. Oldelpaso (talk) 14:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a suggestion - you may want to run this by User:Malleus Fatuarum. He's currently IMO the best copyeditor/cleanerupper Wikipedia has, and as a Manc (not sure if he's red or blue) I assume he's familiar with him. — iridescent 14:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm red, but I'll still do what I can to help. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 15:09, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bradman

I should thank you. Searchig for the refs., I learned a ton about Bradman, and about how to edit a Wikipedia as well. BTW, are we allowed to quote verbatim from Wisden? Isn't it a violation of copyright?Abeer.ag (talk) 16:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FLRC

Hi there. I've been back a couple of days and noticed in your reply to Tony that any decision/noticifications should be held back. I don't think anything has decided yet, so I'm just letting you know that I've raised the issue with Scorpion. Regards, -- Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 00:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to instead hold a mini election to see if anyone else is interested and nominated you and Matthewedwards. If nobody else is interested, then it will simply turn into a confirmation process. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No worries

Hey dude, not a problem. I'll get round to the next load later. I'm sorry to hear that Clio has gone away, what happened there? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your PR query - just click here to start your new PR. Follow the instructions. The article history thing will not need to be updated until the PR is closed. Cool! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My maths is okay, and I understand standard deviations, normal distributions and all that, but it was a long time ago when I last looked up a conversion back to probabilities. I think Algebraist makes a good point which is that the calculations are based on the assumption it's a normal distribution. Which it ain't. I wonder if this section is better off out of it...? The Rambling Man (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we just hack the probabilities out. Which would mean we wouldn't need a cite from Davis, as the rest of it is replicated in RS. What do you think of that? --Dweller (talk) 14:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably wise since they're clearly open to a bit of leeway... The Rambling Man (talk) 14:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bradman & Stats

You can work these out by number how many standard deviations you are from the mean

For example

Move than 2 [actually 1.96] standard deviations above mean is about 2.5% (1/40)

http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/z_table.html Type 1.96 into the 'above' box

Or look at the x-numbers here:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4850/1908/1600/sd%20table1.jpg

So Pele is 3.7 ---> 0.000108 ----> 1/9259 (about 1/9300)

The Bradman one is so far out you need to find special website that doesn't have rounding errors, but I calculated it to be as 1/184,000

This is not 'original' research. This is a straight correspondence to the statistical meaning of Standard Deviation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macgruder (talk • contribs) 13:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hehehe

you saw this then....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Download and have a look at episode 15 - note the episode title....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Will do. For some reason I always postpone archiving, but grumble bitterly when it takes too long to load. --Relata refero (disp.) 19:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Username on Russian wikipedia

Account Dweller is now free for you to use on Russian wikipedia. Kneiphof —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.139.202 (talk) 20:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bradman

Not my favourite celebrity (skills overrated by modern standards). I'll have a quick look after my deadline, Friday. TONY (talk) 11:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graph

What do you need doing my liege? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removing non-notables

Hi, I notice from the revision history of Fiona that you removed backlinks to an article that had been deleted. In these situations, please feel free to remove the whole line from any such lists of people in Anthroponymy or {{hndis}} articles. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. That's one tool I haven't tried yet! - Fayenatic (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:CricketBattingAverageHistogram.gif

Re your request on my talk page: Unfortunately I can't update that graph, as I no longer have access to the database I used to get the necessary stats. I'd like to, but it would just be too much work to compile the stats some other way. Sorry. :-( - dmmaus (talk) 23:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CricInfo. I used to work for them. (Back when it was a bunch of volunteers, not the commercial juggernaut it is now.) I designed and implemented a good portion of its web interface in the mid 90s. -dmmaus (talk) 06:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Yap Chen Sing

None of the sources are independent, and the article doesn't identify which university she's supposedly a professor at. Also, it's spam (she "accepted Jesus Christ as her personal Lord and Savior", etc.). I will speedy again. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 14:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

Dweller why are you editing Ipswich Town's Article when your supposed to be hateing them, and also how do you do one of those pics saying im a mad ITFC FAN?

We are wolves of the sea 18:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)