User talk:DragionTech007
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February 2024
[edit]Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Cynthia Rothrock, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. The image that you reposted image is a likely copyright violation, is improperly placed in the Infobox (test edit), & contains a MOS:PEACOCK caption. Peaceray (talk) 21:39, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
[edit]Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Cynthia Rothrock. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Cynthia Rothrock. You keep inserting an outdated image DragionTech007 (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Editwarring
[edit]You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cynthia Rothrock. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:DragionTech007 reported by User:FlightTime (Result: ). Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. You have been reported for repeated undos and reverting to an outdated infobox image (circa 2018) when newer image (Jan 2024) is more appropraite. This appears to be a violation for self-promotion by using a commercial photographer image in order to gain photography business from Wiki. Thank you. - DragionTech007 The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:FlightTime reported by User:DragionTech007. DragionTech007 (talk) 15:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Block notice
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. Ponyobons mots 16:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)- Checkuser Confirmed socks: TheKata and MartialArtsGuru.-- Ponyobons mots 16:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You keep putting an old image of Cynthia Rothrock on her Wiki. This is an OUTDATED image that is being used to promote a photographer for obvious COMMERCIAL USE. DragionTech007 (talk) 17:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are trying to insert your own (inferior) picture without consensus. You should have discussed it on the article talk page. — Czello (music) 17:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are trying to insert your inferior commercial photography to get work. You should lear how to use a camera. The image is from Cynthia Rothrock's official website for CC use. You should have discussed it on the article talk page. https://www.cynthiarothrockofficial.com/news/71/Cynthia-Rothrock-honored-at-the-2024-Hall-of-Fame-Thailand/ DragionTech007 (talk) 17:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you are not capable of civil discussion and continue with personal attacks, I will modify your block to include the entire website.-- Ponyobons mots 17:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are no personal attacks in my message and none intended. In fact, you called my edits "inferior" I believe that is a "personal attack"??? I request that you please stop these attacks and threats on me. I am simply trying to update the Cynthia Rothrock wiki page to include her most recent public domain CC image. The image that you are protecting is an outdated image, it is poorly photographed with poor lighting, and it contains commercial promotional info for the photographer within it's meta data. I kindly ask that you reverse this block on my account and restore the newer image of Ms. Rothrock on her wiki. DragionTech007 (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I didn't call your edits anything, you're confusing with me with another editor. Saying an image is inferior is not the same as "You are trying to insert your inferior commercial photography to get work. You should lear how to use a camera" which is personalizing a dispute. As I noted in your block message, you still have access to the article talk page in order to make an edit request and see if there is consensus for the image change. If you continue to case aspersions or personalize the dispute, you will lose access to the article talk page as well.-- Ponyobons mots 18:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I never called your edits inferior; I said the photo was inferior. Regardless, it is on you to discuss it on the talk page per WP:BRD. — Czello (music) 18:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why didn't you block the "FlightTime" account for their obvious participation in a revert war with my edits? They reverted more times than I did. Have you blocked them from editing? Additionally, why did you call the photo I uploaded "inferior"? That's an attack. The photo I uploaded is from the official Cynthia Rothrock website. I would gladly engage in a discussion on the Cynthia Rothrock wiki talk page about the image, but my account is blocked. You should have reached out to me for a discussion before blocking my account. This situation looks like a coordinated effort by you and possibly rogue wiki accounts to promote a photographer's commercial enterprise by systematically protecting and inserting their work into celebrity wiki pages. If you want civil discussions, as you claim, then you need to restore my editing privileges so I can participate on the talk page. DragionTech007 (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- As was explained to you, you're not blocked from the talk page. And no, calling the photo inferior is not an attack (did you take the photo?) — Czello (music) 19:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why didn't you block the "FlightTime" account for their obvious participation in a revert war with my edits? They reverted more times than I did. Have you blocked them from editing? Additionally, why did you call the photo I uploaded "inferior"? That's an attack. The photo I uploaded is from the official Cynthia Rothrock website. I would gladly engage in a discussion on the Cynthia Rothrock wiki talk page about the image, but my account is blocked. You should have reached out to me for a discussion before blocking my account. This situation looks like a coordinated effort by you and possibly rogue wiki accounts to promote a photographer's commercial enterprise by systematically protecting and inserting their work into celebrity wiki pages. If you want civil discussions, as you claim, then you need to restore my editing privileges so I can participate on the talk page. DragionTech007 (talk) 18:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why didn't you block the "FlightTime" and "Czello" accounts for their obvious participation in a revert war with my edits? They reverted more times than I did. Have you blocked them from editing? Additionally, why did you call the photo I uploaded "inferior"? That's an attack. The photo I uploaded is from the official Cynthia Rothrock website. I would gladly engage in a discussion on the Cynthia Rothrock wiki talk page about the image, but my account is blocked. You should have reached out to me for a discussion before blocking my account. This situation looks like a coordinated effort by you and possibly rogue wiki accounts to promote a photographer's commercial enterprise by systematically protecting and inserting their work into celebrity wiki pages. If you want civil discussions, as you claim, then you need to restore my editing privileges so I can participate on the talk page. DragionTech007 (talk) 19:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will reply one more time, because you don't appear to be absorbing our policies and guidelines when they are being explained. Noting that one believes an image to be inferior is not a personal attack, it's an editorial comment, one of tens of thousands that occur every day on this project. FlightTime and Czello are two separate editors who did not violate WP:3RR on the article. You did, using this account and your policy-violating alternative accounts. Save for the article Cynthia Rothrock you have not lost editing privileges with this account. You should be able to edit any other page. If you are encountering a block its likely an WP:AUTOBLOCK on your IP as a result of your abuse of multiple accounts.-- Ponyobons mots 19:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this not the case. It appears that my account has a specific block from editing Mr. Rothrock's wiki page by your account. It states "You have been blocked indefinitely from editing Cynthia Rothrock" by Ponyobons mots 16:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC). So, no I cannot engage in the Cynthia Rothrock Talk page to state my case on why the newer "non-commercial" image should replace the outdated one. Is this how Wiki operates? Just immediately block accounts from discussion because someone doesn't like an edit or a revert? I'm not a wiki expert, and I try my best to understand and follow the policies and guidelines. I think it would be better to guide newer editor's like myself rather than institute immediate draconian censorship on them. I don't recall being invited into open civil discussion on the topic. I was immediately attacked with derogatory belittling messages, reported for false policy violations so that my account would be censored and blocked from editing. I was unfortunately not approached with any civil discussion on my edit. Again, I request that you lift this block on my account, so I can engage in the discussion. DragionTech007 (talk) 20:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are blocked from Cynthia Rothrock, not Talk:Cynthia Rothrock. Wikipedia works when new editors unfamiliar with policy read the messages left on their talk page, including the links to the relevant talk pages and guidelines, and edit according to those instructions. You weren't "immediately blocked", you were blocked when you created and used multiple accounts to restore your disputed edits. Disagreeing on which image should appear in an article is not "censorship". Blocking an editor who is causing disruption through edit warring and abusing multiple accounts is not a "draconian measure". There were no "derogatory belittling messages". The directions for appealing the block are included in the block message, but no admin is going to accept an appeal based on your continued misunderstanding of all of the policies that have been repeatedly mentioned on this talk page and completely wrongheaded claims of censorship.-- Ponyobons mots 21:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I received derogatory belittling messages in my inbox from the Wiki users you condoned. I only have ONE wiki account, so please stop the unfounded accusations. There are others in my office who have their own wiki accounts. I was unfortunately not approached with any civil discussion on my edit. YOU blocked my account with unfounded accusations. I didn't receive any civil discussion message from you prior to that. That my friend is draconian. DragionTech007 (talk) 22:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are blocked from Cynthia Rothrock, not Talk:Cynthia Rothrock. Wikipedia works when new editors unfamiliar with policy read the messages left on their talk page, including the links to the relevant talk pages and guidelines, and edit according to those instructions. You weren't "immediately blocked", you were blocked when you created and used multiple accounts to restore your disputed edits. Disagreeing on which image should appear in an article is not "censorship". Blocking an editor who is causing disruption through edit warring and abusing multiple accounts is not a "draconian measure". There were no "derogatory belittling messages". The directions for appealing the block are included in the block message, but no admin is going to accept an appeal based on your continued misunderstanding of all of the policies that have been repeatedly mentioned on this talk page and completely wrongheaded claims of censorship.-- Ponyobons mots 21:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this not the case. It appears that my account has a specific block from editing Mr. Rothrock's wiki page by your account. It states "You have been blocked indefinitely from editing Cynthia Rothrock" by Ponyobons mots 16:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC). So, no I cannot engage in the Cynthia Rothrock Talk page to state my case on why the newer "non-commercial" image should replace the outdated one. Is this how Wiki operates? Just immediately block accounts from discussion because someone doesn't like an edit or a revert? I'm not a wiki expert, and I try my best to understand and follow the policies and guidelines. I think it would be better to guide newer editor's like myself rather than institute immediate draconian censorship on them. I don't recall being invited into open civil discussion on the topic. I was immediately attacked with derogatory belittling messages, reported for false policy violations so that my account would be censored and blocked from editing. I was unfortunately not approached with any civil discussion on my edit. Again, I request that you lift this block on my account, so I can engage in the discussion. DragionTech007 (talk) 20:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will reply one more time, because you don't appear to be absorbing our policies and guidelines when they are being explained. Noting that one believes an image to be inferior is not a personal attack, it's an editorial comment, one of tens of thousands that occur every day on this project. FlightTime and Czello are two separate editors who did not violate WP:3RR on the article. You did, using this account and your policy-violating alternative accounts. Save for the article Cynthia Rothrock you have not lost editing privileges with this account. You should be able to edit any other page. If you are encountering a block its likely an WP:AUTOBLOCK on your IP as a result of your abuse of multiple accounts.-- Ponyobons mots 19:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are no personal attacks in my message and none intended. In fact, you called my edits "inferior" I believe that is a "personal attack"??? I request that you please stop these attacks and threats on me. I am simply trying to update the Cynthia Rothrock wiki page to include her most recent public domain CC image. The image that you are protecting is an outdated image, it is poorly photographed with poor lighting, and it contains commercial promotional info for the photographer within it's meta data. I kindly ask that you reverse this block on my account and restore the newer image of Ms. Rothrock on her wiki. DragionTech007 (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you are not capable of civil discussion and continue with personal attacks, I will modify your block to include the entire website.-- Ponyobons mots 17:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are trying to insert your inferior commercial photography to get work. You should lear how to use a camera. The image is from Cynthia Rothrock's official website for CC use. You should have discussed it on the article talk page. https://www.cynthiarothrockofficial.com/news/71/Cynthia-Rothrock-honored-at-the-2024-Hall-of-Fame-Thailand/ DragionTech007 (talk) 17:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are trying to insert your own (inferior) picture without consensus. You should have discussed it on the article talk page. — Czello (music) 17:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You keep putting an old image of Cynthia Rothrock on her Wiki. This is an OUTDATED image that is being used to promote a photographer for obvious COMMERCIAL USE. DragionTech007 (talk) 17:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ponyo: This user is making open ended accusations about myself and Czello I've never sent this user any mails and I doubt Czello has either. This is getting beyond user harassment. Note There is no "Email this user" link in my sidebar. more harassment - FlightTime (open channel) 23:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have had a look at the evidence and you're lying clearly enough for me to end this here. You may be allowed to continue editing Wikipedia if doing so in honesty is an option to you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Then my account was targeted and reported and blocked for unfounded reasons. I simply updated Ms. Cynthia Rothrock's Wiki profile box to a more recent image months ago. Then it was suddenly reverted back to a year's old image by FlightTime. I was then subsequently sent a message by Czello stating my choices of edits / image is "inferior". This is clearly harassing and not meant for an honest open discussion. FlightTime then reported my account for "reverting" after they reverted several times. My account has been targeted due to my edits that have had consensus for over eight months. I am not accusing Ponyo of anything, except for not looking into this matter more clearly before an immediate block action was taken on my account. I would hope that in an open community, some dialog would occur first. I am astounded by these block and attacks on my account for simply editing an info box with a more appropriate and recent image. I ask you to please step in and help resolve this matter with civility and openness and I greatly appreciate your assistance. DragionTech007 (talk) 15:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ponyo I received wiki post / message alerts, and yes, Czello sent me a comment stating my edits/ image is "inferior". I'm sorry, but that type of message harassment, very poor choice of words and is not meant for open honest discussion. I never said you sent me harassment. DragionTech007 (talk) 15:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Then my account was targeted and reported and blocked for unfounded reasons. I simply updated Ms. Cynthia Rothrock's Wiki profile box to a more recent image months ago. Then it was suddenly reverted back to a year's old image by FlightTime. I was then subsequently sent a message by Czello stating my choices of edits / image is "inferior". This is clearly harassing and not meant for an honest open discussion. FlightTime then reported my account for "reverting" after they reverted several times. My account has been targeted due to my edits that have had consensus for over eight months. I am not accusing Ponyo of anything, except for not looking into this matter more clearly before an immediate block action was taken on my account. I would hope that in an open community, some dialog would occur first. I am astounded by these block and attacks on my account for simply editing an info box with a more appropriate and recent image. I ask you to please step in and help resolve this matter with civility and openness and I greatly appreciate your assistance. DragionTech007 (talk) 15:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jpgordon I am not an "abuser" of multiple accounts. As I have stated, there are other Wiki users in my office on this shared computer and other computers in this office. To make an "abuser" claim, there would have to be abuse. Multiple accounts and accounts from the same office IP, etc. are allowed. DragionTech007 (talk) 17:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- How is it that people in your office happened to make the exact same edits/reverts as you? You can see how that's pretty suspicious, right? — Czello (music) 20:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
I referred you to seek consensus on the article talk page with my first revert. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You did not seek consensus before restoring old outdated (circa 2018) image that contains promotional commercial meta information including a commercial website url for the photographer. Then you engaged in a wiki war restoring said old photo. I would gladly engage in discussion when newer image that has been on the wiki for months is restored. DragionTech007 (talk) 18:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Don't need consensus to revert an article to status quo. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Image was NOT status quo. DragionTech007 (talk) 19:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You keep saying "
I would gladly engage in a discussion on the Cynthia Rothrock wiki talk page about the image
", so when are you? - FlightTime (open channel) 19:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC) - It literally was because it was there first. — Czello (music) 19:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Yes, I agree with you "First" means it is old and outdated (not status quo). Again, clearly this image is on the page for COMMERCIAL purposes to promote the photographer and his commercial website. This photographer has images on other celebrity wiki pages for the purposes of promoting his photography business. My proposed image is updated recent image of Ms. Rothrock and my proposed image is a better representation of her from present day. And when are you going to engage in quality discussion? DragionTech007 (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Drop the stick, I'm done. Good luck with your tenure here. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, you "drop that stick". Good luck with your tenure here, you're gonna need it. Cheers DragionTech007 (talk) 22:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Drop the stick, I'm done. Good luck with your tenure here. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Yes, I agree with you "First" means it is old and outdated (not status quo). Again, clearly this image is on the page for COMMERCIAL purposes to promote the photographer and his commercial website. This photographer has images on other celebrity wiki pages for the purposes of promoting his photography business. My proposed image is updated recent image of Ms. Rothrock and my proposed image is a better representation of her from present day. And when are you going to engage in quality discussion? DragionTech007 (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You keep saying "
- Image was NOT status quo. DragionTech007 (talk) 19:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Don't need consensus to revert an article to status quo. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
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Request reason:
Accusation is false, I don't have multiple accounts. My account was targeted after I made an edit and the other users engaged in EditWar and subsequently, flagged and targeted my account to be blocked from editing. DragionTech007 (talk) 14:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 16:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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