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Because {{UK parish}} had been added, which automatically categorises parishes. However, now User:86.156.101.54 has removed that template and used {{Infobox UK place}} instead. I'm not sure whether it's appropriate to use both templates in the same article, so, for now, I've just added Category:Parishes of Lancashire. --Dr Greg17:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
You're right about the calibration - I needed to add it to a number of articles to see where exactly the error lies. It should be fixed within 24 hours or so, then it should be a great addition to the infobox. Jhamez8412:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
The map source you've provided is outstanding! I did struggle finding quality, free to use source material, and the ones I did had cotradictions!
I won't take me long to fix this at all with the source you've so kindly linked - again, within the next 24 hours, if not by the end of the evening.
I've not had any complaints in the past about the use of black county/district boundaries (these maps are of course used for other counties, and were developed consulting the editting community). I will however try to pale the boundaries slightly. Jhamez8417:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I have recallibrated the Lancashire map. How does it look now? Tests at User:Pit-yacker/Sandbox1 seem much more accurate. It seems I got the wrong river when I was callibrating before which might explain part of the problem. Pit-yacker20:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Looks good to me too. I've also made a few changes per your request. Feel free to let me know if there are any problems as I'm unfamilliar with Lancashire. Jhamez8422:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Excellent! The redrawn map and the recalibration seem to work very well, as far as I can tell so far. Thanks to both Jhamez84 and Pit-yacker.
The point I was making about colours was that it's sometimes hard to see, at first glance, where the red spot is when there are deep black lines nearby. Ideally they would be a bit paler still. Is there a forum where this can be discussed for all the relevant maps, not just Lancashire? --Dr Greg12:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Grimsargh Station
There is a diagram in Biddle (1989) that shows the connection between the WHR and the P&L and you have the direction correct on your diagram. Your representation bottom right best approximates the arrangement as there were two stations at Grimsargh (on diagonally opposite sides of the level crossing) which opened and closed at different times. I presume the dates shown on the P&L station are passenger openning dates as the ststion remained opened for goods and parcel traffic until 1967 I think. I'll need to check Biddle (1989), p. 40 on that one. Best regards Oxonhutch13:16, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
As the one who drew the diagram for this I have to say that your inversion works better than my version. Keep up the good work Britmax15:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. Your version was topologically correct but bore little resemblance to the geography (probably due to bits being added at later dates!) --Dr Greg11:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
I seem to have unwittingly entered an exchange with you over whether the Maudlands line crosses the WCML on the level or using a bridge. I looked at an OS map which seems to show a line passing under the WCML, but even if it is right it doesn't have to be the line in question. Sorry if I stepped on your toes here. Britmax15:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Until recently, I too believed there was a bridge. The map I looked at was probably the same one you looked at, which did give that impression, but it was somewhat ambiguous. However I have recently found two sources, namely
Greville, M.D. and Holt, G.O. (1960) "Railway Development in Preston", Railway Magazine, vol. 106, in three parts : "part 1"(PDF)., Feb. no. 706, p 94-112; "part 2"(PDF)., Mar. no. 707, p. 197-204; "part 3"(PDF)., Apr. no. 708, p. 274-277
Parker, N. (1972) The Preston and Longridge Railway, Oakwood Library of Railway History No. 30, Lingfield: Oakwood Press
which are pretty clear that the crossing was on the level—indeed that is why the crossing was later removed when the Longridge line was linked in 1885 by the southward curve to Preston. In fact, there were two crossings, the first to Maudlands station and the second to the Longridge line, but I don't know if both ever existed simultaneously. I don't know the date wben Maudlands station closed. --Dr Greg11:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure the Lancashire parish is pronounced Clafton? In all my years living in the county, I only heard it pronounced Clawton. - Dudesleeper · Talk16:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I used to live near Claughton-on-Brock, so I know that's definitely "Clyton". As for the Claughton in the Lune Valley, my parents always told me it was "Clafton" and Google searches for Claughton pronounced Clafton and Claughton pronounced Clawton seem to support that. (Of course, ignore pages copied from Wikipedia!) Maybe it had two pronunciations? A definitive source would be nice! --Dr Greg17:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that when it was first broadcast a year or two ago, but you can't trust a TV production company to get the local pronunciation right. I've had another Google and found variations in the phonetic spelling – Claffton, Claf-ton, Klafton, Klaff-tun – but so far none have identified the Lune Claughton with "Clawton". (But also no explicit references to the Birkenhead Claughton, just references to three pronunciations for three places.) Maybe "Clafton" is used by locals and "Clawton" is used by people who live further away? --Dr Greg11:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Maudland Bridge Railway Station
Hi Dr Greg. Just thought I'd drop you a line regarding the Maudland Bridge article, really interesting stuff you have added. I live in Preston and know very little about the line (only that I would love to see it reopen to free up the congestion a little!) so your contribution really helps.
OK no worries about the categories, my mistake. Howver, this - Also, it is usual to refer to "the Fylde" rather than "The Fylde", with respect, I was born in Bispham and have lived here all my life. I am fully aware of the local name and how to use it. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk18:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
We will have to agree to disagree. However, I would like to apologise to you for the tone in the second part of my message above which was uncalled for.♦Tangerines♦·Talk16:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
The article is progressing nicely - thanks for your input. If you haven't been up there, I recommend it, especially if you get out onto the northern edge of the golf course, at which point you're looking right out over the edge of the fell. It isn't all that far from the road. I plan to get up there when I'm back home next week. - DudesleeperTalk17:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I created a section for centers in England as a subsection of Nature centers in general. I am aware that "re" is the British spelling, and I have used the official spelling in the article listings where appropriate. I think that using "nature centres in England" or other countries that use the British spelling is inconsistent with the title of the parent category. Most nature centers seem to exist in the United States and Canada, but there are only a few articles about specific nature centers at this time. Jllm06 (talk) 19:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Weeton
Thanks you for the co-ords correction, in Weeton, Lancashire. I realised my mistake when the locaton didn't appear on the map, but a slow connection prevented immediate repair. It would be very useful for me to know the source of your co-ords. What determines the exact location of a set of co-ords, as I see from zooming in that the Weeton co-ords point to a field at the back of the Eagle and Child pub, and not to the village green as you might expect? I suppose this is an accuracy limit. Also (I have raised this with user Tangerines), is a single planning application really notable in this article? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
To answer the specifics first:
I chose 3 decimal place accuracy on the grounds that's usually enough for a village or anything larger. I usually use 4 decimal places only when identifying a specific building or something of similar size. You can add more precision if you wish, but in my view it's not needed.
Note also that there is a known bug in Wikipedia software that does not correctly convert between latitude/longitude co-ords and OS grid refs, typically adding 100m error. This means that if you follow the Wikipedia geo-links to some of the GB mapping websites that use OS grid refs instead of latitude/longitude, the displayed position may be 100 m away from the intended position, which is shown correctly in Google Maps.
Sorry, I don't really have an opinion about the notability question you ask.
This is the technique I use to find co-ordinates:
Go to Google Maps (if there are already coordinates in an article that need fine tuning, I do this by following the Wikipedia geo-links).
Find the place, if not already selected. This can done by typing in approx. coords if you have them, or by entering a place name or a post code. If ambiguous, you may be given several choices to select. Google does not understand OS grid refs, but you can perform an accurate conversion via http://www.rutter.uklinux.net/ostowiki.html if you have to.
Zoom in and check you really have found the correct place. It can sometimes help if you switch between 'Map' and 'Satellite' view.
Double-click precisely where you want to find the co-ords.
Ignoring the ll=, copy and paste the two numbers and the comma between them, eg. 53.804706,-2.936783 into the "Search the map" box, and press "Search". This should place a big green arrow on the point selected.
You can now fine-tune the position of the arrow by modifying the numbers and re-searching. I recommend rounding up or down to 3 decimal places for villages or larger areas, and to 4 decimal places for buildings and such like.
When you are happy with the results, the 2 numbers in the "search the map" box are the latitude and longitude you need to paste into the relevant place(s) in your Wikipedia source code.
Finally, I assume User:Martinevans123 is the same person as Geograph's Martin Evans, which means you can, if you wish, upload your photo of the church to Wikimedia Commons and include it in the article (provided you agree to licence it). If you need help on how to do this, have a look at some of my own uploads at commons:User:Dr Greg and follow my example, and if you are still puzzled, please ask. --Dr Greg (talk) 18:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your message and thanks for correcting the co-ordinates for the village. And the image would be a good addition to the article.♦Tangerines♦·Talk18:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Dr.Greg. I could not wish for a more complete answer. I am also the same Martin Evans to whom you gave advice about uploading images for Parbold in October last year, but I expect you get to see lots of mistakes on your travels! To be honest, the image uploaded by ♦Tangerines♦ seems perfectly good and does the job just as well as mine. Regards, Martinevans123 (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Apologies, I meant the image in the link. But I have now uploaded mine and inserted. Any improvements on layout would be much appeciated, I'm sure. You seem to be right sbout the 100m error. I'm sure its good enough for ths scale of map anyway, and probably also for any general navigation via the google map link. Many thanks Martinevans123 (talk) 00:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Images
I hope you don't mind my asking your advice, just I have added the Category:Geography of Blackpool link to some images which has placed them in the category under the heading "Media in category "Geography of Blackpool". However, I just wanted to check if this is the right thing to do or not? Do you know? Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk19:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
The convention in English Wikipedia seems to be to use categories named "Images of ...". See Category:Images of England and its subcategories.
However, I always upload my images to Wikimedia Commons instead of English Wikipedia. This is the preferred option, the advantage being that your photos are more easily accessible to the other-language Wikipedias, and also Wikimedia Commons has its own categories dedicated to images. It also has a "Common Sense" tool to help you find an appropriate category (although that website seems to have gone down at the moment).
Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons tells you how to move English Wikipedia images to Wikimedia Commons. You will need to create an account on Wikimedia Commons (your English Wikipedia account won't work there), preferably with exactly the same username as your English Wikipedia account. --Dr Greg (talk) 13:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I too struggled with the categorization of that image on the Weeton page after failing to autheticate by WikiMedia Commons page (I simply can't seem to get the authentication email to send itself). Any advice regarding image categorization would be much appreciated. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Not exactly sure what you mean by "failing to autheticate by WikiMedia Commons page". Do you mean registering for an account on WikiMedia Commons? See also my response to ♦Tangerines♦ above. --Dr Greg (talk) 13:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for the info re images. Re "failing to autheticate by WikiMedia Commons page":
On my "Preferences - Wikimedia Commons" page I have a Section entitled E-mail and under this a link entitled "Confirm your e-mail address". Clicking on this displays a new special page with:
Confirm E-mail address
A confirmation code has already been e-mailed to you; if you recently created your account, you may wish to wait a few minutes for it to arrive before trying to request a new code.
Wikimedia Commons requires that you validate your e-mail address before using e-mail features. Activate the button below to send a confirmation mail to your address. The mail will include a link containing a code; load the link in your browser to confirm that your e-mail address is valid.
But, depite numerous attempts, no email has ever been sent to my address. I assume that you also did this when you set up your commons page? Any ideas? Sorry to dump all this on your talk page. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I never registered an e-mail address on Commons; e-mail addresses are not needed if you don't wish to use the e-mail features. If you leave your address blank you should be able to register anyway. I notice that Commons pages currently display at the top "The toolserver is dead and so are our tools :("; maybe that has something to do with it?
Hello and thanks for the recategorisation. History of Lancashire would seem to be more appropriate. Thanks again! Theelf29 (talk) 01:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm sorry, I really don't recall undoing that edit and branding it as vandalism, although it shows in my contributions. Perhaps I accidently did it while patroling for recent edits. Considering the speed I was reverting some vandalism at, this may have been a slip. I'll revert my edits at once. My sincere apologies once again. S3000 ☎17:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
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Re: Lancs map
Hi! Thanks for the contact about that, I hadn't noticed. I've reverted the map back to the previous version. It should filter through over the next few hours. Thanks again, :) --Jza84 | Talk 12:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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First of all, you shouldn't identify problems by stating "there is a problem" inside the article. The place to do this is on the article's talk page. If you want to change the article itself you should actually fix the problem. Nor should you put links to user pages in articles.
However, in this case, the article says "The above equations are often found in the following version" and that is true. Of course there are other versions, but that doesn't make this version incorrect. They are perfectly correct for one-dimensional motion and where all the symbols are what they are defined to be here. Furthermore, these equations have been quoted from a book, so they must accurately reflect what is in the book. Avoiding vectors also makes this article understandable to readers who don't know what vectors are. Therefore I think this section is fine as it is.
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Some very interesting information there. I didn't know there had been two stations and it would explain why there is a surviving railway house, almost certainly the stationmaster's, beside the level crossing.
There is a degree of confusion about the spelling of Cross Hills, which is two words, so I'm not surprised the name of the station was changed. There is even a road sign at Aireville in Skipton which has the single word. Even worse is the confusion about which county the village is in: it has a BD20 postcode and so the post office insists it is in West Yorkshire, but it is definitely over the boundary in North Yorkshire and administered by Craven Council (not Bradford MBC).
If you follow the "Vision of Britain" link I supplied, click on the map, zoom in to Cross Hills, and then select "19th century: OS 1st series" (in that order or else you'll get confused), you'll find a Victorian map spelt "Crosshills". It looks as though that spelling got established and the station name never changed even though the village name did. Unless someone knows better.
(In my experience, in Victorian times spelling was not standardised; I have seen other examples of mis-spelt station names and even railway company names.)
My source (Binns) says the station moved 1/4 mile towards Skipton in 1889, and on that basis I'm assuming the original location must have been the level crossing (it would make little sense otherwise), which fits in with your local knowledge of buildings.
As for the county issue, the address "Cross Hills, KEIGHLEY, W. Yorks, BD20 xxx" meant that Keighley (not Cross Hills) is in W. Yorks. However, in recent years, Royal Mail has abandoned counties and now simply ignores them in addresses. So you can omit the county altogether, or put "N. Yorks", and nobody will care.--Dr Greg (talk) 11:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4005 last month to 4085 on September 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 28 out of a total number of 1678 articles. In the area of GAs, at 21, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 28.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Wikipedia DVD version 0.7
Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7 aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is currently under way and 43 of the project's articles are being
considered for inclusion. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection has been done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki
links the article has and the number of times the article has been viewed.
The process of selecting clean versions for each of the selected articles is also being undertaken so that vandalised versions are not put on the DVD.
Some of the articles also have clean-up tags attached to them which need to be dealt with before a version can be used on the DVD. It would be good if members
could address any tags in the selected articles and fix the problem identified. Those articles that are tagged by multiple projects should get a visit by each of the projects involved
so the articles will probably get a lot of activity in the next few days.
The cut-off date for this work is October 20th, but changes to articles following version selection may not be incorporated as there may not be time to reassess them.
Please remember...
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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Preston Railway Station
Hi Dr Greg,
I see you have written much about Preston station and I wondered if you could help me with some information, or at least point me in the general direction of where I might find it. Like many people I've become interested in geneology following the programme "who do you think you are". I was aware that my father's family came from Preston and I have now confirmed that his father (a George Duxbury) was an inspector at Preston Railway station in 1915. I believe he went on to become the station master but I'm not sure whether or not that is true.
I'm afraid I have no idea how to use this system so please excuse me if I'm doing something wrong here. From your contributions on Preston railways you seem to be very very knowledgable so I hope it is OK to contact you.
Dr Greg, thanks for adding the routebox to Cotehill railway station. If someone uses the routeboxes to travel up and down the line from a closed station, there is a problem when they arrive at an open station. The routeboxes for open stations sensibly point to the next open station, so anyone navigating using closed stations will eventually be unable to retrace their steps. In Cotehill's case, this happens at Armathwaite and Carlisle. It occurs to me that we could put two routeboxes at open stations, one for the next/previous open stations and one for the next/previous closed stations, but I can't find a precedent or policy on this. Could you point me in the right direction, or express an opinion, or both? Thanks --Northernhenge (talk) 14:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your corrections. One of my sources referred to the Area as Maudlin, then I found it written as Maudlands, so I thought I'd leave it for a local to sort out.
With regards to the placement of the pic. Obviously it ought to be near the text that it pertains to. But there is an enormously long info box. If you fix any picture into the text below an info box, then the result is that you get a gap in between the section heading, and the information that pertains to it. This looks really bad. It's OK have have a break at the bottom of a section, but a break of a couple of inches between the heading and the text is not appropriate.
If you have a very narrow computer screen, then it it doesn't happen so often, and you may not notice that you have caused this problem. But for people with wide monitors, bad placement of boxes and pics causes great gaps every where. I loathe and detest large boxes because of it.
So, if you find a picture that seems to be further down than it ought to be, that may well be the reason. and of course, you always need to check what you have done, and look for this problem.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4085 last month to 4284 on October 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1708 articles. In the area of GAs, at 24, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 30.
As mentioned in the October newsletter, Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7, which aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia needed work to prepare 43 of the project's articles for the DVD.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is now completed and thanks are due to the many members who made a contribution to the effort. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection was done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki links the article had and the number of times the article had been viewed.
Only two of our top priority articles were not selected, Ripon and Wakefield, the others were cleaned up, improved, expanded and copyedited as far as time allowed.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Missing co-ordinates
A recent entry on the project talk page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire#Missing coordinates alerted us to the fact that many of our articles do not display any geographical co-ordinates. Many also do not have infoboxes. As locational infoboxes usually have a field for co-ordinates, it was suggested that members might be able to kill two birds with one stone by adding an appropriate infobox at the same time as co-ordinates.
The infobox page usually includes detailed instructions for its use and many of the fields are not mandatory so are not displayed until information is entered.
The geographical co-ordinates for a location can be found on Google Earth.
Open Google Earth and enter the name of the location in the search box. (Quite often the article name can be copied and pasted directly into the search box but sometimes it is useful to add ,UK to the address.)
A results list is displayed beneath the search box.
Click on the right one.
Zoom in to check that the correct feature is being displayed on the image. (Sometimes the supposed feature is not at the centre of the page.)
Place the pointer over the location on the screen image and read the geographical co-ordinates from the panel at the bottom of the screen.
Make a note of the co-ordinates.
Open the tab of the article you are editing and add the co-ordinates in the co-ords field.
Once co-ordinates have been added the template {{coord missing}} should be removed from the article.
Please remember...
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4284 last month to 4532 on November 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1746 articles. In the area of GAs, at 24, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 31.
As mentioned in the October newsletter, Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7, which aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia needed work to prepare 43 of the project's articles for the DVD.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is now completed and thanks are due to the many members who made a contribution to the effort. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection was done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki links the article had and the number of times the article had been viewed.
Since the last newsletter Northallerton has also been selected to go onto the DVD having recently achieved GA status.
Thanks
Thanks for all those who have been adding co-ordinate information to articles as a result of last month's newsletter. The major impact has been on the railway station articles, including disused ones, but other location articles have also been tackled. This effort means that the articles can be accessed directly from external sources such as Google maps and gives them a much higher profile.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Co-ordinates
Just to let you know that a bot is currently sub-dividing the articles with missing co-ordinate data into sub-categories for ease of use. You can now find the articles by looking at the categories for each area as — East, North, South and West. From the discussions it looks like only the co-ordinates in the title area are being used by external sites so articles with multiple co-ordinates are not being handled correctly as yet.
Happy Christmas
Just to say thanks for all the effort put in by members on articles covering the Yorkshire area and to wish everyone a happy Christmas. It is time to take a break and to spend some time with family and friends. May be even to indulge yourself in the food and drink that abounds at this time of year or even make that occasional visit to a church. What ever you do over the festive season enjoy it and see you next year.
Though if you are at a loose end then many of you will be getting some new toys to play with which can be used to enhance wiki articles. Those new digital cameras can be used to get photographs for some of the articles which are currently without and for which the Geograph site has nothing suitable. May be it is a new PC that you just need to play with then spend some time checking out the watchlist for vandalism which tends to go unnoticed when there are fewer regular editors around. It may even be a book which can be used to add references to an article. May be you want to do something different then try creating spoken articles see the Spoken article project.
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Many thanks for initiating a discussion on this. I had a limited discussion with one of the other major Scottish contributors abouts this in the past day or so, and have created a small body of evidence on how it would work practically. Mainly on Scottish articles, although some English stations have been changed. I have posted a response on the discussion page. In summary I think the principle is worth persuing, however the implementation is currently to clunky, especially on how it displays. --Stewart(talk | edits)13:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4532 last month to 4822 on December 19th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1763 articles. In the area of GAs, at 25, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 36.
Thanks for all those who have been adding co-ordinate information to articles as a result of last month's newsletter. The major impact has been on the railway station articles, including disused ones, but other location articles have also been tackled. This effort means that the articles can be accessed directly from external sources such as Google maps and gives them a much higher profile.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Citations
Citations are a necessity to give credence to the articles that we produce, so that the facts given can be verified. One of the templates that is used for this is {{Cite book}} to give details of books used for creating the articles. There has been some changes to the template that we should be aware of and make changes accordingly when editing articles. The id= field should no longer be used to give the ISBN number for a book instead use the isbn= parameter. The page= and pages= parameters now have the p. or pp. automatically inserted and so we should just put the page number in the fields. Use page= for a single page and pages= for multiple pages. If the insertion of p. or pp. is not required then use nopp=true to suppress this. Note that the number of pages in a book is not specified using these fields and at the moment a new parameter is being discussed to cover this.
Happy New Year
Hope everyone enjoyed the festive season and are not feeling too worse for ware. At the start of a new year we all look back at what has happened in the last year and look forward to the coming year. It is time to take stock of what has happened in the last year well we have managed to get some priority articles selected and to get this newsletter in place to keep members up to date on what is happening. Articles have been tagged and assessed, a watchlist of these has been set up for members to keep track of changes to those articles that the project is interested in. So over all great steps have been made in the last year and thanks to everyone for the efforts put in. Looking forward it is time to make some targets for the coming year. If anyone has any ideas for what we should be doing in the coming year then please share them on the project talk page.
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4822 last month to 5108 on January 30th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 31 out of a total number of 1798 articles. In the area of GAs, at 26, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 41.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Article Activity Monitoring
Article activity is now been recorded at Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Article alerts by the bot ArticleAlertbot. This gives details of the changes that have taken place in the last 14 days in the status of articles tagged for the project. The status changes being monitored are :-
Proposed deletion
Articles for deletion
Miscellany for deletion
Templates for deletion
Categories for deletion
Good article nominations
Good article reassessment
Good topic candidates
Featured article candidates
Featured article reviews
Featured list candidates
Featured list removal candidates
Featured topic candidates
Peer review
Requests for comments
Requested moves
Did you know
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5108 last month to 5202 on February 17th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 32 out of a total number of 1801 articles. In the area of GAs, at 32, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 42.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Orphan articles
Members may have noticed a new spate of article tagging by bots in the last month. A large number (over 250) of articles belonging to the project have been tagged with the {{Orphan}} template indicating that there are no or few incoming links to the article. It would be helpful if members tried to reduce the number of tagged articles by introducing wikilinks into related articles so that there is a minimum of three links to each of the orphaned articles. Once the links are in place the tag can be removed and the bot should not re-add the tag. The bot is currently only doing articles with no incoming links.
Portal
Those of you with eagle eyes may have spotted the change made to the Yorkshire Portal link in the project template. Rather than the usual jig-saw image it has been changed to the Yorkshire Rose image to give it a more distinctive look and hopefully raise the profile of the portal.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on February 25th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5202 last month to 5866 on March 29th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 32 out of a total number of 1828 articles. In the area of GAs, at 35, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 40.
To those who have done some work on sorting the orphan articles mentioned in the last newsletter. The number has decreased but there is still some way to go.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Co-ordinates
Further runs of the bot to tag articles with the {{coord missing}} template have been made during the last month. This has resulted in a significant number of the project's articles being tagged as needing coordinate data adding. At the time of writing there are 719 articles assigned to the Yorkshire categories with more expected as the bot moves articles from the United Kingdom and England categories into the county categories. It would be good if we could get the number down as when the co-ordinates are in place the article is available to other providers such as Google to display on maps. The best way of doing this is to complete the appropriate field(s) in the infobox template, if there is no template then consider adding one and killing two birds with one stone.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5866 last month to 6113 on April 25th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 41 out of a total number of 1835 articles. In the area of GAs, at 36, WP:YORKS equals WP:GM.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Architecture of Leeds was promoted to GA on April 5th York was nominated for GA on April 7th York failed its GA review on April 17th
Member News
There are now 60 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! There have been no changes in the membership since the April newsletter.
Thanks
To those who have done some work on adding co-ordinates and infoboxes to articles as mentioned in the last newsletter. The number has decreased but there is still some way to go.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Article tagging
This month I thought that I would focus on article tagging. Article tagging is the means of identifying that an article is within the scope of the project. This is done by placing the project template {{WikiProject Yorkshire}} on the talk page of an article below any existing project banners. Some pages have a number of banners and can get very cluttered, if this is the case then a shell is used to wrap the templates together and collapse them down to a single line. The main shells in use are {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} and {{WikiProjectBanners}} and any new template should be added inside the shell template. There is no longer a requirement to add the 'nested=yes' parameter to the Yorkshire template when doing this as it will be ignored.
Why tag, you may ask, the reason is to be able to locate relevant articles among all of Wikipedia's articles. If article 'Foo' is relevant to Yorkshire then, unless it is tagged, no one in the project will know it exists unless they happen to stumble across it. The odds are against this happening so tagging makes it easily identifiable to project members.
Once an article has been tagged it can be assessed to see what quality and importance it is to the project. This is done using the assessment parameters to the template, 'class=' and 'importance=', you can leave these to more experienced people to pick-up and assign. The results of this are shown in the statistics table on the left of the newsletter. Tagging also makes the articles appear on the project watchlist, article alerts log and clean-up listing when they are refreshed by the appropriate bot. It also provides readers with a point of contact if they wish to discuss the article in more detail and no responce has been received on the article's talk page or a wider audience is required on the discussion.
I would therefore encourage members to add the project template to the talk pages of articles they find that are relevant to the project so the rest of us know that it exists. You can also tag templates, categories etc. as these are all relevant to maintenance of the articles in the scope of the project. Vandalism on a template can affect a large number of articles so it needs watching.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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