User talk:Dkriegls/Archive 2013

Possible plagerism on article for Benjamin Huntington

Hi. I wondered if there were certain steps I should take when I run across an article that has been taken directly from another source without any references being cited. In the article for Benjamin Huntington it was apparent that an editor had taken sentences from an uncited source. I put the information on the talk page of the article as an explanation as to why I changed the article so much. I was trying to practice the idea of "be bold when editing". Thank you--BuzyBody (talk) 22:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I have been crazy busy so no Wikipedia for a few months. Looks like you did alright without me ;) Be bold and feel free to ask the editors board for help if I'm not around. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 05:19, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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Need some help re moving an image

Hi. In the past you were kind enough to help me improve my editing, and I wanted to ask for your help again with something if you do not mind. For the article on John Emory Andus I added information and wanted to move the image that was already there ("The mausoleum of John Andrus") so the page layout would look better because after I added info there is a large space at bottom of page. I cannot figure out how to move the image. Can you please explain this to me and let me know if I am allowed to do this. Thank you!--BuzyBody (talk) 17:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Of course you are allowed to move it! Instead of explaining how to move it, I just did it so you can look at the 'history' and copy what I did. I did two edits. The first one I added a "left" justification. That moved the picture to the left side of the article. The second edit (dido) I moved further up the screen so that it looked better. But feel free to move it how you want. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 20:41, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thank you for always being so wiling to help another editors! It is really appreciated :) BuzyBody (talk) 01:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Question re Database Reports

Hi. I am trying to learn more about the inner workings of Wikipedia & stumbled onto this page [[1]]. Can you tell me what it is about? It was confusing to me. Thanks!--BuzyBody (talk) 15:16, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not too familiar. I think people create these reports for all types of reasons. I don't think there is any sort of "central command" so to speak, but User talk:MZMcBride seems to help create a lot of them. This page seems to just be an index for gathering different reports about Wikipedia for whatever reason. If you want to learn more, you could go to the talk page and ask. They seem to take requests for coding reports if they think it is of value. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 01:28, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. That helps. :)--BuzyBody (talk) 02:26, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Flags article

I think you're confounding me with somebody else. What you say is exactly what I'm defending on that discussion :-) Diego Moya (talk) 17:06, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I've corrected the mistake. ;0 Dkriegls (talk to me!) 17:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Hallo. I (obviously!) agree with you that the list of flags articles all need to be worked on, but I suspect that the example table (that uses invented details) that you've added in the discussion at WT:NOT, will not help matters, due to the falsity of the information. I'd strongly recommend removing that table, and simply pointing to an existing article. (Or of course, researching the correct details! Which everyone seems to be avoiding :/ So far at least!) Thanks. –Quiddity (talk) 03:45, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I see your point and have removed the fake content but have left the table to demonstrate the point. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 04:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

your message

Dear Dkriegls, Thank you for your message. I am not very well informed on any of this. One thing I was trying to do was to add the "list of people from Chicago" to the entry for Ralph Pearson, but it claimed that there was no such page, but there, although maybe it is not named exactly as such. Sincerely, Josh Telser Jtelser (talk) 19:18, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I cleaned up the entry for you. It is good to go. If you are interested in Ralph Pearson and would like to contribute, I see two things that need to be added. The first would be a public domain picture of him. You could contact him directly or at UC Santa Barbara and ask for one. Make sure to ask for express permission to make the picture public domain. If he wants to copyright protect it, that is fine, but there is more work to be done. If you get one, I can help you put it up on Wikipedia.

The second thing would be a reliable source that says he was born in Chicago. This could take some detective work. Make sure to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources so you know which sources are accepted. I think both of these would be fun tasks if you are interested in this subject. Feel free to ask me for help. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 04:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Following up on David Marchick

Hey Dkriegls, just wanted to let you know that I've now had a chance to look through David Marchick's article, seeing what kinds of things I think should come out. I've posted a detailed note, at Talk:David Marchick, as well as the revised draft in my userspace. If you have a chance to take a look, I'd certainly be interested in your comments. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:11, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

caic.org.au discussion

Hello! As someone who has edited the Landmark Worldwide article in the past few weeks, I am notifying you of a discussion at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard regarding the use of the website caic.org.au as a reliable source in that article. Please feel free to review or participate in that discussion.

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. --Tgeairn (talk) 21:44, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

David Marchick

Hi there, I'm not sure if you have the Marchick article watchlisted, but I asked on Friday if you'd had time to review the full draft, toward the goal of replacing the current version. Meantime, I'll keep an eye on it! Thanks, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 02:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Ya, It's on my ToDo list. will get to it within the next few days. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 18:09, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks much. I'm going to offline mostly over the next couple of days, but if you have questions I'll try to follow up as soon as possible, Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey there, Dkriegls, just wanted to let you know that I posted a note over on Talk:David Marchick, detailing some factual issues that remain in the version of the article you helped place. If you have time, do you think you could take a look and see what you think? Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Ya, I saw that. I'll take a look when I get a chance. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 17:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks much! WWB Too (Talk · COI) 18:28, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Geoff Morrell (Pentagon)

Hello Dkriegls. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Geoff Morrell (Pentagon), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: this isn't an R2 cross-namespace redirect; and it is long-standing, so R3 does not apply. No reason to delet. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 08:47, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I don't use speedy deletes much, wasn't sure. So, just to be clear, there is no reason to delete a redirect that has no links to it? --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 14:25, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

The guidelines on when to delete redirects are at WP:REDIRECT#When should we delete a redirect?. Unless they are actively harmful or misleading, they are usually kept, because they are cheap in terms of space taken up. The reason why WP:CSD#R3 is restricted to recently created redirects is that with a long-standing redirect there is no way of knowing whether there are links to it from outside Wikipedia, which would go dead if it was deleted. JohnCD (talk) 21:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Well that makes perfect sense. Thanks for taking the time to educate me. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 22:18, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

How to create Wiki page

Hi I want to know how can i create a wiki page like all other pages about people in wiki. I have created a page but it's view is not the same as other wikipages. Can you help me in this regard as it will be great help to me Regards Himayun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.182.15 (talk) 14:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I would love to help you out. We can start with some basics. If you look at the upper right of any Wikipedia page, there should be a "talk" or "message waiting" button. This is your talk page. One of the links is creating an account. That will help you get a log in. I left some links to tutorials there. Let me know if you found it. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 17:17, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Compromise

Hi I appreciate your reaching out for a compromise. It seems the only way to resolve it will be to start an RfC due to other parties who have taken a strong position in opposition (more than one user). If you agree, would you be interested in helping craft an RfC, before we post it I think at least two people should look at it to ensure there is neutrality. It's on my user space you are free to make changes. Zimmerman photograph RfC draft. It follows the wording and format of Wikipedia:Rfc#Example. Thank you. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:41, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Looks good. Maybe wait a few days for the current debate to run its course. Also, I'm wondering if we should include some reference to the fact that there aren't any better fair use photos available. That is a strong reason for me to even be considering them. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 06:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Further help on Geoff Morrell

Hi Dkriegls, as you helped recently on some updates that I suggested for Geoff Morrell's article, I wanted to ask you if you would be able to review some additional suggestions I have for that article. There are several requests but each is fairly small, making minor updates and corrections. If you are able to help, please see the full requests on the Geoff Morrell (spokesperson) talk page, here. Thanks. Arturo at BP (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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People from Rockford, Illinois

The page is for people who were born or have lived in Rockford, Illinois. All those former Rockford IceHogs have lived in Rockford, Illinois. Thanks for undoing all of my research and time for not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanningshalten (talk • contribs) 00:42, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Sanningshalten, if you come back here, please talk to me, I want to help. I left a message at your talk page. Let's have a chat, I'm really nice. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 05:09, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Inappropriate remarks

I find your comment on the talk page for the List of New religious movements [[2]] grossly inappropriate. If you had bothered to look at my user page, or my request for peer review [[3]], you would have found out that I am completely open about my position regarding Landmark, as a satisfied customer who took several of their courses between eleven and seven years ago. This no more puts me in a conflict of interest than would an editor on the Apple page who had bought an Apple computer at some time. DaveApter (talk) 09:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry you find it inappropriate to ask that you disclose this information at the talk page of the current discussion on Talk:List of new religious movements. There are several editors involved with that discussion, you can't possibly expect me to read the user page of every single one of them? I've addressed your lack of WP:COI disclosure at the Talk:List of new religious movements and request that you to respond there. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 16:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, but I don't even know exactly where or how I am supposed to respond to those previous messages that were sent to me by others, including the jerk that thought I was ignoring him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanningshalten (talk • contribs) 20:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! Well that is a place we can start. (Please tell me if this is too basic) Each Wikipedia editor has a user page. This is created for you when you create a log in name. Your user page is User:Sanningshalten, it is waiting for you to add content (only if you like). Each user page has a "talk" page associated with it. Your talk page is User talk:Sanningshalten. You are currently looking at my talk page. So if any editor on Wikipedia wants to get in touch with me, about any issue, they know to come here and leave a message to get my attention. When someone posts something on your talk page, that means they want to talk to you. The best thing to do is answer them on your talk page. Like I am doing now. If you ask me a question on my talk page, and I answer on your talk page, and then you reply on my talk page....well, you can see how that would get annoying for everyone and make the conversation hard to follow. So we try to keep any single conversation on a single talk page. Either yours or mine. Wikipedia articles also have this feature, but that talk page is just for conversations about editing that particular article. When you get a new message on your talk page, you will see a number 1 in the upper right hand corner where there should currently be a gray 0. You can click on that from anywhere on Wikipedia and it will take you to your own talk page. So lets give it a try. I will leave you a message on your talk page and we can continue the conversation there. (and again, tell me if this is too basic. I don't know you so I don't know if you are computer illiterate, or a sophisticated computer programer who just needs a quick lesson on Wikipedia bureaucracy). --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 01:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

More help with David Marchick?

Hi again Dkriegls, just wanted to let you know that I posted a few more corrections over at Talk:David Marchick. If you have a sec, do you think you could take a look? I'm also happy to reach out to other editors if you don't have time. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 18:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Ya, I am watching the page and saw your request. It's hard to get myself interested enough to come back a third time to help with minor edits. This time you indicated that there would be more after this round. I don't mind helping, but I prefer to do such things in one sweep when I am interested enough to help out. I like to help on the Biography notice boards because I love reading new biographies I never would have found on my own. But that interest wears off when I've read one biography more than few times. I assume your strategy was to ask for small incremental changes that were more likely to get done because they were asking less of editors. Well, if I'm the only editor making the change, one fell swoop is preferable. Again, I don't mind, but if I'm going to revisit that biography, I'd prefer to get a sense of accomplishment out of it (e.g., a sense that my editing there is done). So maybe you could collect all the edits you wish to accomplish there and then give me a heads up. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 19:37, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello again! Sorry for the delay in getting back to you about this; I've been working with some folks in Marchick's office to get a good sense of what is still inaccurate with this article. You're absolutely right about my motivations for posting incremental changes—I was hoping that this would make it easier for editors to address problems, rather than posting a whole laundry list in one go. If you'd rather look at the changes that remain in one fell swoop, though, that certainly is OK with me.

Give me a few days to prep a list of what problems remain with the article (minus what's in the most recent round of posted requests) and I'll be back in touch once I've gotten it ready. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dkriegls, just wanted to let you know that I've put together a list of the remaining issues in David Marchick's article, and posted them at Talk:David Marchick. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:57, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey again Dkriegls, I just wanted to check in with you and see if you still thought you'd have time to take a look at this? Thanks in advance, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 21:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Ya, I am a bit busy so it won't be right away. But I'll get to it as promised. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 22:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi again, I realize you've been away from Wikipedia for more than a week now. And while I recognize the importance of not rushing things on Wikipedia, I'd also like to see a resolution sooner than later. If you happen to be watching this and can give me a better idea of your time frame, that would be great. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Soon. Probably in a day or two.

Hey Dkriegls, just wanted to touch base and see if you'd seen the comment I posted over at Talk:David Marchick—it looks like we lost a word from one of Marchick's titles during the edits, and I was hoping you could add it back in. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:10, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Ramtha's School of Enlightenment

Hi there DKriegls! You had stopped by the discussion page for the Ramtha's School of Enlightenment article a little while ago to ask about my work there. As it turns out I'm having a hard time getting anyone to read my version closely or compare it to the current version. I think that this might be because of the topic of the page but I'm not really sure. Would you be able to take a closer look? Calstarry (talk) 20:35, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Salem

Hi I appreciate your 'clean-up' of Salem article re Phineas (which has significantly changed the town in a way that will show its effect for years to come). A concern I have is that the change is not accurate. Backes did say that they could place Phineas in a sanctuary , but that never happened as the city would not allow it. Is there a way you might choose change the wording of that sentence? I like your phrase "The case is ongoing." Since Phineas was stolen from the place the city was keeping him before last week's hearing, should that be added or is the info irrelevant until his body is found? Thanks! Taram (talk) 16:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I agreed that the sentence wasn't clear about the offer not being accepted. I added that info, so it should be more clear now. As for the missing pup detail, I think that is getting too much into WP:NOTNEWS. I know some of the editors of this page are eager to write about the details of this case, but we need to stick to the core details that are generating the coverage. Once the dust has settled, we can look back and see if a more detailed coverage is warranted. For now though, it is important that Wikipedia try not to give the case WP:Undue weight that might paint those involved with the case unfavorably. If it turns out this disappearance is the final chapter (e.g., he was whisked away to a no-kill shelter), then it might make sense to add it. But if it turns out to be just another back and forth for custody, then it's not all that notable. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 16:32, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! That all made sense and I like your added sentence. It does clarify what happened. Thank you, again! Taram (talk) 17:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dkriegls, The Yellow Lab Phineas was cleared of all charges and ordered retunred to his family, today; though, he is still missing. Would you look at what I replaced your phrase "the case is ongoing" with, please? Perhaps you have some better working for it? Thank you so much for your help! Taram (talk) 23:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Salem, Missouri

It appears Phinnias has gotten clemency from the governor (lol) or something, but he is to be spared. Still missing tho. Any chance you'd stop by and put some sort of ribbon on this? IMHO, since absolutely nothing came of this, absolutely nothing should be in the article...but apparently I'm a fuddy-duddy. Thanks for your help on this one. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:51, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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Question regarding Almanac Section on Thomas Cooper (representative) and William B. Cooper

Hi, I was editing the article for Thomas Cooper (representative) and noticed an almanac section on his article that includes several charts. There is a similar section on William B Cooper'S article (his brother). Would you please let me know if this should be there and if so, if I need to make any changes to it? I was thinking it was not needed but wanted to check with you. Thanks for your help!--BuzyBody (talk) 03:25, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Ya, those are over kill. The basic information of the offices he's held should be in the info box. Best not to just delete it, but better to summarize it and add it to the info box. See Hillary Rodham Clinton for an example. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 07:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, I will work on those articles as you suggested. I also have a question re LinkedIn and Project VoteSmart as reliable sources. Are these considered reliable? I see them fairly ofte but want to make sure I am using correct sources. Thanks again :)--BuzyBody (talk) 18:13, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

For LinkedIn see WP:SELFSOURCE. It should only be used for biographical information about the individual, and only if we know it was self published by the individual we are referencing with it. Although, it is always preferred to find a more reliable source for this biographical information, but not neccessay. Any other info cited from linkedin should be deleted. As for Vote Smart, that appears to be a wiki project which falls under WP:USERGENERATED. If this is correct, follow through to find their sources, but never cite Vote Smart directly, except if talking about them. Dkriegls (talk to me!) 18:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again

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		For all your help addressing some longstanding and occasionally tricky errors in the David Marchick article, I'm very grateful. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hey there, I replied again last week, but didn't think to add another trackback (nor embed your name in the post, IIRC) but since I hadn't heard from you again, figured I'd leave this message today. Let me know! Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 14:48, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey again, I just posted my detailed feedback on the draft's Talk page. Let me know what you think. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 22:57, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timfrakes

Hi, Thanks for correcting my mistake and being patient with me! This is my first attempt to contribute to an article. I now understand the image question and how many photo can be attributed to a page. I'll do better next time! I'm a videographer, travel widely and want to contribute to Wikipedia. I'll get the editing thing down eventually.

Thanks for your work.

Tim Frakes tim@frakesproductions.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timfrakes (talk • contribs) 18:09, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! I think it's great that you are willing to provide your photographic art to Wikipedia for free. If you ever need help or find yourself getting in some annoying back and forth with another editor, feel free to pop over to my talk page here and ask for advice. --Dkriegls (talk to me!) 18:55, 21 December 2013 (UTC)