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Looks like Nalanidil is back as User:Menrot

User:Menrot is a "new" user (obviously not new) with the same agenda, behavioral clues, and same articles as Naladil. I left a message on Blablubb's talk. I think that sock puppet case needs reopening. Netherzone (talk) 16:49, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Comment by sockpuppet of User:Nalanidil

@Netherzone, Why are you taking Rombase as a source without permission and why are you falsifying there text? Your falsifying on the Article is: ``During the population exchange between Greece and Turkey, the Christian and Greek Sepeticides remained in Greece, (The source didnt say that) as did the Muslims who adopted the Orthodox religion or The Sepečides Romani who were Greek (They source didnt say that), or converted to the Greek-orthodox faith and remained in Greece after 1923 moved south to settle in Volos. and The Sevlengere on the island of Skyros are Greek Roma (you deleted the sources) or are the descendants of the Muslim Roma who stayed and converted to Greek Orthodox. And this is absolutly false Some of the Orthodox Sevlengere also settled in Volax. Where in the source said this people are sepecides? did you read the source about Volax? While the source of Rombase said clearly http://rombase.uni-graz.at/cgi-bin/art.cgi?src=data/ethn/work/basket.en.xml#nidm139788003815024: Their ancestors lived as nomads in the area of Saloniki up to the war between Greece and Turkey (1920 – 1921). After the Treaty of Lausanne (1923), in which a population exchange was agreed on, they had the choice to either change their religion or to leave Greece. So, the Sepečides split up into a "Turkish" and a "Greek" group. The Turkish group traveled to Mersin and the Izmir area, those who stayed in Greece converted to Greek-Orthodox faith, left Saloniki and moved to Volos.: So, quite clearly: Before 1923 there were no Christian Orthodox sepecides, but only at 1923. So your statements are simply your own wish, because you hate Turks. In addition, Nalanidil and sockpuppets are globally blocked, the idea that others also recognize what is happening here doesn't you come up with? Menrot (talk) 17:33, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Demitrios, Sock is now blocked. Sorry to clutter up your talk page with this nonsense. Hopefully they will not be back again. Netherzone (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the delayed response, and thanks for reaching out and letting me know Netherzone. Do not hesitate to contact me again if you notice any suspicious behavior that relates to User:Nalanidil; they will probably be back again. Also, take note that this sockmaster is involved in cross-wiki abuse. Demetrios1993 (talk) 05:43, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

If you care

You seem to constantly be on the Drew Pavlou article a lot given the article history log. So I assume you care for it or at least patrol it. But there's this seemingly enthusiastic fan of Drew, (PatrickBatemanWiki) who has been puffing up Drew and adding in unsourced falsehoods. The issue is that he claimed international students had sent him death threats when the provided sources, had said no such thing. Or strongly take sides as if Drew is to be assumed to be correct when he accused London police of illegal treatment. And makes loaded statements as if it's a fact that Drew got mistreated. I corrected those edits but don't want to waste any more time edit warring with him. If you care about factual accuracies and are against unsourced falsehoods, thought you should probably know and this is just a courtesy message. 49.186.55.170 (talk) 05:37, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Vurg from Greek Vourkos

Hi there, hope you are doing well! There is a discussion here: Talk:Vurg about the subject. I also recently noticed that even Demiraj is clear about the etymology deriving from Greek Vourkos (full citation here [[1]]). He actually agrees with Kyriazis on this etymology. I noticed that you have access to Filip Liço (2009), I wonder what does he state about this?Alexikoua (talk) 04:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Your eyes on other IE-related articles...

...would be much appreciated, e.g. in Talk:Balto-Slavic languages and Balto-Slavic languages (quite quiet at the moment, but regularly coming under fringe-pushing attacks). Austronesier (talk) 13:01, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Sure thing Austronesier; i will be keeping an eye on it from now on. Demetrios1993 (talk) 02:33, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Re:Megisti :-)

Hallo Demetrios, I didn't know this rule existed. One never stops learning...sorry and thanks for the explanation! Kalimera, Alex2006 (talk) 07:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

No worries Alex; buongiorno. Demetrios1993 (talk) 02:37, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Gurdjieff

Hi Demetrios - I have crticised today your edit on the Gurdjieff talk page for the reasons stated. If you agree please revert the edit as requested or explain your position. Londonlinks (talk) 22:04, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know Londonlinks; i will reply to your comment. Demetrios1993 (talk) 02:04, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Demetrios - I have added a further response so please review and comment on it. We need to resolve the issue so that your view that G's mother was Greek can be properly sustained - otherwise your edit should be reverted. I am not going to do that until we have thrashed out the issues and you are proven to be on weak ground and if so you must in all conscience as an editor relinquish your speculations. In other words, you must be able to come up with stronger sources than recent blogs and authors for overturning almost a century of understanding that G's mother was Armenian.

It is also important because people rely on Wikipedia as a reliable and trustworthy source of information and in regard to people who are dead more weight should be placed on the views of relatives of a deceased person or his or her contemporaries, whom I have quoted, than newly-baked authors or bloggers whom you have quoted. Londonlinks (talk) 20:05, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Londonlinks, why are you informing me of your response as if i am not already monitoring the page? Haven't i been replying to your comments on a daily basis? Everything else has already been addressed in the talk page of the article. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Albanian-Greek border war

Hello ,

Can i make a request on the "Albanian-Greek border war of 1949 ti be brought back " maybe rather with a differebt title like "the confilct or provocations " as i saw your arguments .

Thank you Truth t (talk) 09:48, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't agree with that. The arguments, including those of User:Cplakidas who initiated the AfD, were not limited to the title. Furthermore, there was no "conflict of provocations"; this is how Communist Albania propagated certain minor episodes that were directly related to Operation Pyrsos, which was the final phase of the Greek Civil War. Regardless of the title, it would still be a violation of WP:POVFORK. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:47, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

So there is no place for arguments ? And the sources like the albanian ones or the british news papers claim an invasion .

But i guess i cant change your mind .

Thank you Truth t (talk) 07:18, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

There was a place and a time for arguments. The sources you are referring to have already been discussed; you know that. Demetrios1993 (talk) 03:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes , i know . But im saying some were just looked over as ,well it was just border clashes but not war . Thats why i proposed a name change Truth t (talk) 07:13, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

EPIRUS

Hello, I take the opportunity to draw your attention to the return to the previous state of the edits on Epirus. You have not provided any argument that contradicts my edits as there is also no argument or reference to verify what was written Melo.berati (talk) 13:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

The article Epirus (ancient state) is well referenced. Please, don't add fringe, unsourced, anachronistic, and off-topic content. The article is about the ancient kingdom of Epirus, which existed between 330 and 167 BC. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Agathodaemon

Hello my can you add to the page of agathodaemon that they are also psychopomp beings and spirits of fertility, good luck, grain, harvest, health, house, protection, wealth and wisdom because they are sources from a lot of pages. Please it is important. You can find it in Agathodaemons in durban. 2A02:587:1F0B:C000:FCCF:41D5:7F77:4757 (talk) 15:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Judging from the history of Agathodaemon, i see that there is no consensus for what you are asking me to do. You are apparently a sockpuppet of User:Akaora; please, stop trying to circumvent your indefinite block, by asking others to edit for you. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Revision to basic introduction to Thassos

It is a fact that the island hosted 1.5 million visitors over the period of June, July and August 2023 .

It is also a fact that the island is now heavily reliant on tourism as nearly everything closes at the end of the season .

I think that you will find that now traditional occupations contribute very little as most people are chasing the easy money . Traditional meaning Bee keeping, olives and related, livestock, fishing etc .

Sli23121953 (talk) 05:07, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

@Sli23121953: Being heavily reliant on tourism, which i don't dispute, is one thing; hosting 1.5 million visitors during the months of June, July, and August 2023, is another. If the latter is a fact, as you say, then it shouldn't be hard finding reliable sources supporting the claim; per WP:Verifiability. I rephrased the sentence per what Thasos § Economy says. Demetrios1993 (talk) 02:08, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The figures of visitors to the island are published annually and are a matter of public record (if you care to look) Sli23121953 (talk) 02:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Sli23121953: I don't have time to look for the records you refer to. If you share a link supporting your claim, i will make sure to reinstate the information myself, with a proper reference. Demetrios1993 (talk) 03:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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July 2024

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Onufri, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary or starting a conversation in the talk page. Your deletion left the 'about' template incomplete. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Thank you.

Aferditaa (talk) 23:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@Aferditaa: Onufri's birthplace and ethnicity are disputed, and he was active outside Albania also. I reverted (once) an addition by an IP editor who disregarded neutrality, and tried to push their POV via edit warring. My edit summaries tend to be very detailed; excuse me for not leaving one for something so obvious. Last, be mindful not to perform controversial edits while logged out; read Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Demetrios1993 (talk) 15:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

The short description literally says "albanian archbishop and painter" and the 'about' template right under it is left blank because you insist that it should remain incomplete, for what seems like greek nationalistic reasons based on your past behavior. Also, I know how IP addresses work, and I haven't made any changes while not logged in. I genuinely feel threatened by your comment telling me to be careful otherwise someone will find out who I am and where I live. i'm really not sure how to respond to that, and I'm starting to question/consider whether I could be threatened for making certain contributions, or worse, whether this is a safe space for me. Aferditaa (talk) 22:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet of User:Brikcity. – Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Aferditaa, Demetrios is not "threatening" you. They are giving you friendly advice about the issues that might arise if you edit logged out. If you edit logged out you might also breach WP:SOCKPUPPETRY and get blocked. I also suggest you edit less controversial topics at first, to gain experience with the evaluation of sources and guidelines, and then step by step you might reorient your attention towards controversial topics that can cause content disputes. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

It's incredibly weird to falsely accuse someone of IP editing and then 'warn' them that someone can find out who I am and where I live. Thats not friendly especially considering this user's consistently aggressive behavior Aferditaa (talk) 18:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet of User:Brikcity. – Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Aferditaa: What you find controversial is nothing more than a watered-down version of the {{uw-login}} warning template. Furthermore, there is nothing "incredibly weird" for someone to assume you were behind the aforementioned IP(s), and subsequently to warn you without necessarily being definite in their assumption, considering that you had never edited that article before, and you appeared some days later to restore the very same problematic addition. Last, what's not "friendly" is casting baseless aspersions. Your account is not even a month old, and yet you find it normal to accuse me of Greek nationalistic past behavior, and consistent aggressiveness. Unless I am missing something, besides my one-off interaction with the aforementioned edit-warring IP(s), my only other activity associated with your account, was a partial revert to an unexplained removal of sourced content you attempted in the page Albanian language (diff), and a full revert in the page Albanians in Greece because you ignored basic Wikipedia guidelines (diff); both with very detailed edit summaries by the way. Judging from recent interactions you have had, such as falsely warning an administrator (here) for supposedly not providing a valid reason for their removal of text you introduced in an article (diff), and suggesting they made a test edit, I would advise you to take some time off and familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, before editing further. Demetrios1993 (talk) 15:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't need to have had interactions with you to see your past behavior and what kind of contributions you make to wikipedia. Your contribution history and your talk page speak volumes. Not only is it strange that you told me "someone" can find out who I am and where I live for contributing to wikipedia, but it is also so strange how sensitive you seem to be about Onufri's 'about' template. So sensitive that you want it to remain incomplete.

And by the way, assuming I'm making edits under a different account or IP goes against wiki guidelines, you might want a refresher yourself. Aferditaa (talk) 01:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet of User:Brikcity. – Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Aferditaa:, fellow editors Demetrios1993 and Ktrimi991 are two editors who are well respected in Wikipedia, and I hold both in high regard. If I were you, I would rather sit down and heel to their kind advice for once. They had the option to ignore you, but they nevertheless took the time to help you familiarize with Wikipedia. Not every new user gets such kind treatment and I am positive you appreciate that. Good day. --- ❖ SilentResident ❖ ^{(talk ✉ | contribs ✎)} 23:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd hardly consider the above kind treatment; first, wrongly assuming sock puppetry, which is against wiki guidelines, and second, I don't think that telling someone that contributing to wikipedia is dangerous (when they make contributions you don't like) is appropriate, and I wanted to express that. I respect your input, but please do not tell me to sit down when I am indeed expressing that. That's what these talk pages are for. And I am positive wikipedia has better standards than this. I am not interested in dragging this on as I believe I've made my point here, but it's super disappointing how pages on here have to remain incomplete because of y'all. its so silly! Aferditaa (talk) 01:50, 8 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet of User:Brikcity. – Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Aferditaa: My contributions in Wikipedia, which indeed anyone can check, have been nothing but constructive; especially as I evolved and became more familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines over time. Even when there were disputes, I always tried to resolve them with civility. No, there is nothing strange about my warning, which was issued in good faith, and as aforementioned, was directly copied from the {{uw-login} template, and even excluded any mention of blocking, which may have appeared more severe; anyone can confirm this by checking the template. Furthermore, the {{about}} hatnote template is not incomplete, as there are several formats allowed; including the one currently used in the discussed article. Lastly, while assuming good faith is a fundamental principle on Wikipedia, it should not be misunderstood for blind faith. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Your email

Sorry, but I can't help you with this.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Arberiunumk

Hi, i might be new on wikipedia so i dont know very much things, could you help me out with why those sources were unreliable on kolokotronis? as you said "No, they aren't reliable for that claim, which has already been discussed here and elsewhere; and not all are academics (Aristeidis Kollias wasn't), which doesn't establish reliability by itself." I get that aristidh kola might not be reliable, but why the rest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arberiunumk (talk • contribs) 20:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet of User:Arbe21_21. – Demetrios1993 (talk) 12:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Illyrian invasion of Epirus

hey sup how are u, i saw u reverted the edit on the illyrian invasion of epirus and i get u have a point tho u didnt have to remove the cited sources about epirus but just the things about macedonia, also, could u please make a page "Illyrian invasion of Macedonia" or something? thanks have a nice one — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShalqiPrejLushnjes (talk • contribs) 04:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet of User:Arbe21_21. – Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:49, 28 September 2024 (UTC)