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A barnstar for you!
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- One thing for certain is resizing images in a much slower place! Long time no see, hope you're well. Dat GuyTalkContribs 00:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Bots Newsletter, December 2021
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 13:01, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
DatBot feature request
Hey DatGuy. Would it possible to add additional notes (beyond the filter title) when DatBot makes an "immediate" report to AIV/TB2? That is, could we put stuff like this in User:DatBot/filters:
note 42 = '''This filter causes a large number of false positives; use extreme caution before blocking.''' note 123 = Contact [[User:Alice]] for questions. note 456 = [[User:Bob| ]]
Then DatBot would say:
* {{IPvandal|8.8.8.8}} - Tripped [[Special:AbuseFilter/42|filter 42]] (LTA 42) ([{{fullurl:Special:AbuseLog|wpSearchUser=8.8.8.8}} details]). '''This filter causes a large number of false positives; use extreme caution before blocking.''' [[User:DatBot|DatBot]] ([[User talk:DatBot|talk]]) 18:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
I don't know about the "vandalism" reports; wouldn't want to flood AIV/TB2 with dozens of comments, so probably best not to change anything there. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:52, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: I think it would be best to make the filters more readable by changing the content model to JSON. It will lead to around a day of downtime for the abusefilter reporter task but will hopefully lead to long-term readability and scaling improvements. Could you please Special:ChangeContentModel for User:DatBot/filters from wikitext to JSON? Thanks. Dat GuyTalkContribs 15:23, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Is there a way to override the default full protection of user JSON? AFAIK changing the content model of that page would prevent non-admins EFMs, including me (and you, unless you log in to the bot account), from editing the page. So it will need to be outside your userspace, e.g. at Template:DatBot filters or Wikipedia:DatBot filters, and then EC-protected manually. Do you have a preferred location? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: that makes sense, I went to a page I found in the model change log and editing worked but recalled doing something similar earlier and it didn't work. Either page you suggested works. Dat GuyTalkContribs 20:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, Done by ToBeFree. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:41, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: that makes sense, I went to a page I found in the model change log and editing worked but recalled doing something similar earlier and it didn't work. Either page you suggested works. Dat GuyTalkContribs 20:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- Is there a way to override the default full protection of user JSON? AFAIK changing the content model of that page would prevent non-admins EFMs, including me (and you, unless you log in to the bot account), from editing the page. So it will need to be outside your userspace, e.g. at Template:DatBot filters or Wikipedia:DatBot filters, and then EC-protected manually. Do you have a preferred location? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: should be good to go. There's an example in Template:DatBot filters and documentation at Template:DatBot filters/doc. I'd suggest if you have spare time adding them one by one and monitoring the bot's edits to make sure everything's alright, but if you believe the filters are ready to be added all at once I'll do that tomorrow. Dat GuyTalkContribs 00:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hmmm, doesn't seems to be working. See Special:Diff/1059375142 and Special:AbuseLog/31470082. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 02:43, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Whoops, I accidentally forgot to turn it on. Give it a go now. Dat GuyTalkContribs 12:54, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Works now with hits = 1. But with hits = 2, time = 1000, I get nothing even with 3 or 4 hits in a row. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:03, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: just tried it and it seemed to work fine. Perhaps try again? Dat GuyTalkContribs 22:16, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, worked the second time. Didn't realize I needed to wait five minutes after updating the template. I've copied everything from the old page, but I'm leaving the report page as your sandbox for a bit. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 07:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Seems to be working; thanks again! I switched back to AIV. One more question: the doc page says
If a user hits any combination of filters 'vandalism' a total of ten times within five minutes, he's reported to AIV.
but the old behavior was five times in five minutes, and DatBot is still sayingTripped 5 abuse filters in the last 5 minutes
. Which is correct? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2021 (UTC)- @Suffusion of Yellow: it was indeed previously set to five times in five minutes, but that led to the obvious issue that any specific filter hit five times in five minutes will be skipped because the user is already reported for five global hits. I've added a 'global' section to the filters page that can also be updated. There's also a title tracker which reports if five filters have been tripped in the last five minutes on a page (rather than by a user) on the #wikipedia-en-abuse-log connect channel. Dat GuyTalkContribs 20:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Makes sense. I might try different settings there later. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:39, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: it was indeed previously set to five times in five minutes, but that led to the obvious issue that any specific filter hit five times in five minutes will be skipped because the user is already reported for five global hits. I've added a 'global' section to the filters page that can also be updated. There's also a title tracker which reports if five filters have been tripped in the last five minutes on a page (rather than by a user) on the #wikipedia-en-abuse-log connect channel. Dat GuyTalkContribs 20:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Seems to be working; thanks again! I switched back to AIV. One more question: the doc page says
- Thanks, worked the second time. Didn't realize I needed to wait five minutes after updating the template. I've copied everything from the old page, but I'm leaving the report page as your sandbox for a bit. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 07:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow: just tried it and it seemed to work fine. Perhaps try again? Dat GuyTalkContribs 22:16, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Works now with hits = 1. But with hits = 2, time = 1000, I get nothing even with 3 or 4 hits in a row. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:03, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Whoops, I accidentally forgot to turn it on. Give it a go now. Dat GuyTalkContribs 12:54, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Seems to be skipping a few, e.g. Zubinia tripped filter 1160 which has hits: 1
, but was never reported. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Problem seems to have stopped ... did you change anything? In any case thanks once more time for implementing this feature! Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I made the duplicate hit per edit check be ignored for vandalism filters. Zubinia for example tripped both band vandalism and filter 1160 simultaneously. Dat GuyTalkContribs 14:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)