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The article Suburban Souls has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Non-notable book
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Pronunciation of "ə"
In view of the comment you left at User talk:Hortimech2014, you might be interested in the discussion I started at Template talk:IPAc-en/Archive 1#Mouseover for 'ə', suggesting that "about" is a bad example. -- Dr Greg talk 17:16, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The article Lauri Love has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
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OED
I see that you followed the advice at FAC and opened a peer review – only for a bot to close it immediately. I imagine that's because the closure of the FAC is not complete, and the system doesn't allow a PR to be open a the same time as a FAC. I suggest you wait a day or so, until the FAC closure is formalised, then reopen the PR. Meantime I'll start looking at the article and making notes. I'll also see if other useful eyes are prepared to chip in and help improve the article. Brianboulton (talk) 09:15, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- I have looked in at the peer review and left some comments. The article, which I much enjoyed, has the potential to become a featured article: the facts, the coverage, the sources are all there, but they need working on. Because I see potential in the article I have been pretty unsparing in my comments, but they are kindly meant, and I shall be happy to give advice or help if you ever feel in need of either. As a purely personal comment, and one to be ignored if you disagree, I find the existing referencing layout heavy going. As Brianboulton has contributed above, I take the liberty of pointing to one of his many featured articles – here – as an example of reader-friendly referencing, with four easily-distinguished sections: explanatory footnotes, citations (including web references), books cited, and further reading. Be that as it may, do let me know if I can be of use to you. Tim riley talk 12:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
My unexplained reversion
I fat-fingered my reversion of your edits on List of genocides by death toll and so there was no summary of my edit. I wanted to let you know that the reason I removed the entry is that, even if the numbers were true, there is no assertion of genocide in the provided reference. Even if there were it would be a hugely contentious assertion to make and so starting on the talk page would probably be the best course of action. Sorry for any confusion. GraniteSand (talk) 23:50, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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"BDSM"
Hi! Thanks for your edit in the BDSM article. I've found one mention of the term that might be earlier via a Google Books search -- try a Google Books search for "bdsm" "the black flame", which finds a mention in a periodical called The Black Flame supposedly dated to 1989 -- but this is original research on my part, and the OED remains the best reliable source we have at the moment. -- The Anome (talk) 11:30, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- The Anome: Awesome, thanks for the (potential) antedating! Unfortunately to get a citable reference for it I'll need something other than Google Books's snippet view with its vague "volumes 1–6" and often inaccurate page number and date indications. According to WorldCat this periodical was first published in 1989, and if the Google Books scan represents volumes 1–6, assuming one volume per year, this could be anywhere between 1989 and 1995. Also according to WorldCat, the nearest copy to me is in the Library of Congress, 4,100 miles away. I might try an interlibrary loan. On the off chance that any of the four physical copies listed are near you, it would be useful to me if you could go along and look. DavidPKendal (talk) 11:44, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Alas, I'm also thousands of miles away from any of them. An inter-library loan sounds like a good idea. -- The Anome (talk) 12:20, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Berlin Bruisers
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Evening Prayer (Anglican)
Hi Daphne, I've reverted your merge for now as it came as a complete surprise. Your merger may (or may not) be a good idea but I think a short period of consultation with editors would helpful. Please see Talk:Evening Prayer (Anglican) and WP:MERGE. Thanks, Cnbrb (talk) 11:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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Fixed your talk page archiving
Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at the top of this page. --rchard2scout (talk) 10:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you! Daphne Preston-Kendal (talk) 12:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Detlef Bald moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Detlef Bald, is not suitable as written to remain published. As a biography of a living person it needs citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. JW 1961 Talk 20:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Daphne Preston-Kendal,
- There is no need to leave an unpleasant edit summary. The editor who moved the page to Draft space was doing what they thought was best and you are free to move an article back to main space if you disagree with the action. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:25, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'll echo what Liz said. If you create an unsourced BLP in article space, you should expect to have it moved to draft or deleted - that is our new page review process working as it should. If you make a mess, and someone else tidies it up, you should thank them. For you to choose to insult them instead suggests that you need to make more of an effort with civility and collaboration. This isn't a templated message, but please consider this a warning that personal attacks are not tolerated here (WP:NPA for full details.) Girth Summit (blether) 10:53, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- I will respond to both of you together.
- The article itself did not comply with BLP policy. The initial edit message of the article made clear, however, that it was a translation from a (fairly well-cited) dewp article. That left Joseywales1961 with two productive options: find a suitable citation or external link in the dewp article which I neglected to copy over in the initial version and add it; or add the Template:Expand German hat note. Fair, the first option requires more effort and some minimal German knowledge, but he could also have sent me a user message asking me to add a citation myself asap without actually nuking the entire article, and perhaps have taken it down later if I failed to add one within, say, a day. To simply delete the article from the public namespace entirely without doing any of these things is the height of rudeness. But, of course, mechanical automation of policy enforcement (through the use of ‘templated messages’) leaves little room for common sense or polite co-operation.
- Finally, I take strong issue with the notion that my edit message was a ‘personal attack’. It quite clearly was not. I have no idea how you would interpret it in such a fashion. If Joseywales1961 feels attacked, I apologize. But I am more frustrated with the continuous pattern of semi-automated deletionist rudeness in WP policy enforcement than with any particular individual. Daphne Preston-Kendal (talk) 12:17, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- No. The height of rudeness is to use expletive-laden edit summaries to accuse a new page reviewer of being a pedantic jobsworth. I don't see how anyone could possibly think it civil to speak to someone like that, or take it in any other way than a personal attack.
- The article was not 'nuked' - it was moved into draft space temporarily to allow you to bring it into line with our WP:BLP policy - moving it back into article space once references are added is the work of a few seconds, I don't know why you find that so troublesome. You can avoid this happening in future by simply ensuring that there are citations already in place when an article is created, or by starting articles in draft or user space and moving them to article space when they're compliant with our content policy (which is what I always do when I write a new article).
- New page reviewers are currently dealing with a queue of around 10,000 unreviewed articles. Amongst those, there will be lots of good articles that need little work, lots of really bad ones that need a lot of tidying up, a lot of adverts, vandalism and attack pages that need deleting - and some unsourced BLPs. All of them need to be triaged and dealt with appropriately, and if the number of unreviewed articles is to come down, reviewers need to work reasonably quickly. If they come across completely unreferenced BLPs, some might go hunting for sources, but most will either draftify or add a BLPPROD. That's not 'semi-automated deletionist rudeness', it's just the result of too few people trying to tackle a huge backlog. Having people like you swear at them and insult them merely for trying to follow our basic quality-control procedures is part of the reason why there are so few people willing to do review work. Girth Summit (blether) 12:54, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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The article Detlef Bald has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Not nearly enough in-depth coverage to show they pass WP:GNG, and there is nothing to suggest they pass WP:NSCHOLAR.
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Deletion discussion about Paul Ford (technologist)
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