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Re:Re:?

Well are you some type of partner with Wikipedia, that you have an emergency Wikipedia Shutdown button,or is that a fake? lol

PS:Hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasenano (talk • contribs) 02:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

• It looks fake to me. And remember to sign your posts with ~~~~. –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 02:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I am not affiliated with Wikipedia - in fact, there are very few employees; you can see them listed here, and read about it here. I am just a regular Wikipedian, same as you.

Don't press the button!  Chzz  ►  10:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Email

Is it possible to be able to send email.

Also how do you write new articles

saskiaday —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saskiaday (talk • contribs) 06:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

If a user has enabled the option to receive email, then yes, you can. If you go to their user page, you will see the option to 'E-mail this user', in the toolbox - for example, if you go to user:chzz, you should see the link, as shown in this picture.

Please note, this is just a convenience, and the user is not obliged to reply - in some cases, to protect their anonymity; you will not 'see' the users email address, unless they choose to reply to you.

The normal method of communication on Wikipedia is through talk pages, like this one.

To create a new article - if you put in the title of a page that does not exist, you have the option to create the page. Please remember that Wikipedia is 'live' all the time, so it would be better to make pages in your user space first, and work on them their, before making it live. To do this, put in the search box, for example, user:Saskiaday/example and create that page.

 Chzz  ►  10:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Novum_Organum_1650_crop.jpg

{{talkback|Smartse}} Smartse (talk · contribs) 11:55, 27 May 2009

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Cropped images problem  Chzz  ►  12:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

newbie/translations

Howdy Chzz,

I'm just learning the ropes at the mo'. I was trying to find a page which lists pages which need translating, listed by language. The only ones I could find seem to be related to in-house translations. Does what I'm looking for exist? Thanks. Petitsouris (talk) 12:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, it's ok. I've found it. Petitsouris (talk) 12:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Damn. Beat me - just as I clicked edit. Help:Translation#How to find an article needing translation yes? Must...type...faster :-)  Chzz  ►  12:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Bodybuilder1999

Hi chzz thanks i dont know what to do on my page??? what do you do?????????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bodybuilder1999 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi :-) Perhaps the best thing you could do is to click this and I could talk you through some stuff.

If that is not possible, you should read through my welcome note, which should get you started.

Hope to hear from you soon,  Chzz  ►  15:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

how to make an article

hey im new to wikepedia, and im the cousin of Intocable the wrestler and he wants me to make a page about him. My question is how do i do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashrules002 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi there :-)

In the 'welcome message' on your talk page, there is a line saying, "Play in your user area. For example, create User:Ashrules002/test.". If you click on that red link, you can create that page. You can edit that as much as you like, and could start to write an article there. Later, when it is in shape, it is easy to copy it over to the live area.

I think it would be helpful if you talked to us helpers, too - click this to do so now.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  16:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello again,

I have two questions. First, can you post the "Leave a Message and Emergency Wikipedia Shutdown templates on my talk page. Also, how can I check how many edits I have made, like on a number count. Please Reply Soon.

WaveRunner85 (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

1.  Done

2. You can check it in "My preferences" at the top, which shows "Number of edits", or (a bit more sophisticated) using this. I don't know of a way of displaying it on a page, other than manual editing - and that'd be silly.  Chzz  ►  17:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Caduca

Thanks for welcoming me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caduca (talk • contribs) 19:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Caduca (talk · contribs)

Hello Again (again)

Thank You for being so helpful. I have two more question first, how do you give barnstarts, and also, how can you manage the qui/ monobook thing. When I put it on my talk page it said my status was Unknown. Can you fix it for me and put it on my user page? Thanks

WaveRunner85 (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

• Barnstars - you just put the code on a users talk page, for example;

{{subst:The Original Barnstar|message ~~~~}}

For the index of lots of them, see WP:BARNSTAR.

• Qui / monobook thing - I have no idea; you'd better ask the person who wrote it or the documentation or whatever. It's not part of the Wikipedia system.  Chzz  ►  20:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Re:Re:Re:?

It does not let me push it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasenano (talk • contribs) 20:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Chzz!

Hey Chzz, you bade me speak, so here I am! I am a regular Wikipedia user and have two questions: 1. Is there a forum for some pages where we can discuss things about it, not like the DIscuss pages which (from what I have seen) are soley for talking about improvements? 2. If we can't press it, what is that Emergancy Wikipedia Shutdown button for?? Thanks so much! ~*CF12*~ Curlyfries12 (talk) 20:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

• There are lots of forums. For general stuff, try the Village Pump. Other areas have their own page - for example, projects have talk pages, the reference desk has their notice board, there is the articles for deletion discussions, etc etc. Depends which bit you want, really. Have a browse.

• The button should not be appearing; it's a template bug. I'm trying to fix it. In the meantime, please don't press it!

 Chzz  ►  21:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Boom

Oh wait I just pressed it.........--Rasenano (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

By the Way...

Forgot to tell you, I love your Puzzle Manga Girl!!! Super cute!! (I am a manga fan, btw XD) ~*CF12*~ Curlyfries12 (talk) 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It is Wikipe-tan.  Chzz  ►  21:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Qui

You should check out Wikipedia:Qui. It can show your status. Class I Laser ^ZAP! _Boom! 21:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I've just installed it-looks really cool! Dottydotdot (talk) 00:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I see that lots of people are signing up for this thing; I worry somewhat that Wikipedia is turning into a Myspace thingy.  Chzz  ►  03:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I doubt Qui will evolve into anything resembling Myspace, at all. I installed it and put the little code on my main and talk space, but because I don't ever update it (it's all manual), I stay "online" for days or weeks at a time. Would be nice to support some kind of if statement, where if it hasn't been edited for say .. 12 hours, you automatically go offline. Whatever. –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 03:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Chzz

I was wondering if you could help me in editing my user page. A few icons on my navbar, when you click on them are empty, can you please try to format them in some way so that people can use them? Thanks

WaveRunner85 (talk) 21:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure which bit you mean. All of them seem to work, I think? I'm not really much good at these things though - I don't bother with them. What, specifically, is not working?  Chzz  ►  22:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Pic of the Maratha soldier

There is a need to find an appropriate pic of the Maratha soldier. The one that is available [1] here doesn't seem appropriate. A Maratha soldier is popularly known to have a white attire and a red pagdi(which is a distinct pagdi worn by Marathas). I want to forward this message to the users who can be of some help regarding this. Kindly tell me how to do this. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 08:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi. First, try to find a picture yourself - see Wikipedia:Finding images tutorial.

If you cannot find one, see Wikipedia:Requested pictures.

Good luck!  Chzz  ►  15:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing tools

While editing an article, editing tools used to add bold, italic, internal link, etc. features to the text are not displayed. Why is it so? Kesangh (talk) 08:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

It could be due to a setting in "My preferences" (at the top of the screen), in the "editing" tab, is an option "Show edit toolbar (requires JavaScript)".

If that is checked, then it is probably something to do with your browser - either you do not have Javascript installed, or images or Java is disabled in the settings.

See Help:Edit toolbar for more information about how to get it working.  Chzz  ►  16:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Begonia sutherlandii

You will see I've inserted an image in the above file but would like to put it in a small box on the right with a caption and maybe add another image lower down. How should I do this?

I also tried to insert 2 "gallery" images to Jawleyford/Aframomum zambesiacum one of foliage the other fruits but the images don't appear when I clicked on "Save page".

Thanks again for your help.

Jawleyford —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawleyford (talk • contribs) 16:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The box at the top right is called an 'infobox' - a template, which lays things out in a new format. I will look for an appropriate template, and let you know soon.

When an image is not in the infobox, you display it with the code [[File:filename.jpg|thumb|This is a caption]]. The 'thumb' part makes it a 'thumbnail' picture. For more possibilities, see WP:IMAGE.

When I just looked at Begonia sutherlandii, it had a pic without 'thumb' - so it was huge; I changed it to 'thumb'. You might want to add a caption.

If you have trouble, let me know what pics you want where, and I can do it for you.

So - I will look for an infobox, and also I will look at the gallery question - and reply further later.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that the appropriate infobox is template:Taxobox - you can click that for the full syntax, but I give an example below. You could copy this into the article, and 'fill in the blanks'. Remove any lines that are not applicable. (The example comes from Begonia);

{{Taxobox
| name = ''Begonia''
| image = Begonia-IMG 0089sm.jpg
| image_width = 250px
| image_caption = ''Begonia'' cultivars
| regnum = [[Plant]]ae
| divisio = [[Flowering plant|Magnoliophyta]]
| classis = [[Magnoliopsida]]
| ordo = [[Cucurbitales]]
| familia = [[Begoniaceae]]
| genus = '''''Begonia'''''
| genus_authority = [[Carl Linnaeus|L.]]
| subdivision_ranks = Species
| subdivision = See text
}}

 Chzz  ►  17:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I have now fixed the problem with the gallery in User:Jawleyford/Aframomum zambesiacum. The problem was that the filenames had "jpg" in lower case, and the correct name was "JPG" in capitals. The file name must be exactly correct, and it is case-sensitive. It is usually better to copy and paste the name.  Chzz  ►  17:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Three choices

As the above may seem confusing, and as you seem to have hit on all three permutations for inserting images, let me try to clarify below;

1. Simple in-line images

The most common syntax is, [[File:filename.jpg|thumb|Caption goes here]]. This will appear in a thumbnail box on the right; this is the 'norm'. There are other options, such as [[File:filename.jpg|300px|right|Caption goes here]].

2. Articles with an 'infobox' style template

Most developed articles use an infobox to display standardized text and pictures at the top. In this case, an image is added as a parameter, like this;

{{Taxobox
| name = ''Begonia''
| image = Begonia-IMG 0089sm.jpg
| image_width = 250px
| image_caption = ''Begonia'' cultivars
... (other parameters here)
}}

3. Galleries

<gallery>
File:example1.svg|caption for first example
File:example2.gif|caption for second example
</gallery>

Important note: These go towards the end of an article - in a == Gallery == section, before references. For an example, see Fountain of time.

Hope this helps, cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Begonia sutherlandii

Thanks again for being so clear and helpful.

Jawleyford

Jawleyford (talk) 19:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem at all. Often the best way to work these things out - rather than wading through manuals - is to find a really good article on a similar topic, and copy their ideas - regarding referencing, layout, etc. In this case, I see that Ficus aurea is a featured article. You might benefit by looking at that, and perusing others in WP:FA#Biology. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  19:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Argemone mexicana

One last thing! I was looking at the above plant and altered the name on the gallery caption as it should be "mexicana". However I didn't realize by doing that the images would disappear! Can you retrieve them for me please? Sorry about that. I'll know another time.

Jawleyford

Jawleyford (talk) 19:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)  Done

I just undid your edit. You changed the actual filename given in the gallery; it might be spelled incorrectly, but for good or bad, that is the name of the picture! Pics can't easily be renamed - you have to download them and upload them again; I can't see too much harm in the filename typo - the filename could just as easily be "sausages.jpg" and it would work just as well. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Chzz

I Figured out the problem Chzz, I didn't have sub pages properly enabled so the {{/}} wasn't spliting off any child pages (therefore including the namespace and page name). You pointed me in the right direction to look, and I appreciate your time and help... even if you weren't supposed to. Thanks again sir --Doylezor (talk) 20:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops, forget to tell you...

Uh-oh, it looks like I let this matter slide. It concerns your request to produce the printed notes of a four-note theme of a game show.

Look, I listened to that theme song music, and I didn't seem to match the printed notes you showed me. In addition, I'm not confident that the notes I am hearing are correct, either. So I chickened out--sorry. You'd need to find an annotator better equipped to hear syncopated music. Opus33 (talk) 23:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, not a problem; I'll ask around. Cheers for not forgetting all about it tho :-)  Chzz  ►  23:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

That "CBS News article" was a press release; but see User:Chzz/X+1

"Paidcontent.org" means that it's a press release. That's why it says "Release" at the end of the "article". --Orange Mike | Talk 00:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I see that now. Bah, it's a hard thing to search on too. What a great idea for a marketing company! A lot of the hits are based on the press release; I'll give it a go though. Cheers for userfying.  Chzz  ►  01:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

RE:

Hey thanks! Sorry, I was only asking admins as I assume they would know more. Thanks again! Alfred Lau (talk) 00:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your help, again (: Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 08:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome messages!

Well it seems like someone always has a problem with them!-Village Pump Dottydotdot (talk) 07:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for mentioning that to me; I'm following it with interest.  Chzz  ►  21:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Text Help!

Hello and thank you for assisting me (: I'm a bit confused in creating the Leadership Initiatives page. I have reworded every part so that the copyright issues do not cause the deletion, but now am stuck as the actual website is the only place where the programs are listed. The organization has been seen in numerous news articles, videos, etc. but does not go into extreme depth of the programs, although I thought it would be important to note. Should I take it out if it cannot be found in any other source? Some of the programs are mentioned in videos/articles... would it be okay to include those? Also, what should I use the reference tip for (like test wise, what should I source)? Again, thank you so much for you help. I'm a newbie, and am suffering in creating this page! Thank yoU!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erika.boll (talk • contribs) 01:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

If facts aren't covered by a reliable source - not a primary source - then you shouldn't include them. It might well seem like useful information, but... well, you'll have an external link to the site with the information.

It is all about verifiability - the reader needs to be able to check the facts for themselves. How could I (as a reader) definitively prove those details, if the only reference was to the organization itself? For example: I create a myspace page for chzz, saying that I am the Queen of England. Then I create the Wikipedia article about it, referencing my myspace page. It wouldn't work...I would have to wait until the BBC News picked up on my Queenhood.

Now - about the 'reference tips' thing - this is an important thing to learn. User subpages. You can make a page called 'user:Erika.boll/anything you want', and you can work on things there. You can use such pages to test things out, and to build articles. Because it is in user space, it is not part of the live site, so the pages are not 'seen' by Google. Hence, the requirements are much more relaxes. For example, you can create an article in your user space with no references at all... add some later, and then copy it to a live page. This is the best way to develop a new article. Also it means you can ask other people to have a look at it.

There are several ways to create such a page, and to access it. You could simply type 'user:Erika.boll/anything you want' in the search box, and then create the page. But you might find it better to do this - edit your own user page, which is User:Erika.boll, and add user:Erika.boll/anything you want. This will appear as a red link, because the page does not exist. You can click on it, and create it. Once you have made the page, the link will no longer be red, and you can use it to get back to it in the future.

I hope that this is clear. If not, please don't hesitate to ask for more help, at any time. You can also talk to helpers live, with either this. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!! Ah you have helped immensely (: I have put my hopeful page on my talk page.. I changed it up and made it simple, hopefully abiding by the rules and such. Do I need to put direct sources after the info? Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erika.boll (talk • contribs) 23:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you will need to add references for everything - using the syntax explained in that guide on your talk page. All facts should be backed up by reliable sources. Have a go at it, and ask for help whenever you need to. Good luck with it, cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Lucille Cedercrans

I am a parter in the company, Wisdom Impressions Publishers, LLC, which publishes Lucille's works, have been a teacher of her materials for 25 years, and attend the annual U.S. conferences of students and practitioners (have not yet made it to the Australia conference).

Although it is not apparent from this entry, Lucille's works are at the core of a world-wide movement. It is quite small in the overall scheme of things, but growing rapidly. Am glad to see something posted to Wiki at last (no matter how fractured and incomplete). I'd have posted something myself long ago but for my apparent commercial interest in the subject.

I'd be happy to offer comments and suggestions, based on my knowledge of the topic.

Namaste,

Glen Knape —Preceding unsigned comment added by GKnape (talk • contribs) 04:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. Thank you for adhering to conflict of interest guidelines. If you feel that you could add some neutral, balanced information to the article then I suggest that you try to create something in your user space - make a page, such as User:GKnape/Lucille. You could access the page by typing "User:GKnape/Lucille" in the search box, but such user pages do not appear in the live area - they are not 'seen' by the outside world; hence you can work on things there without worries over COI. The most important thing is to provide references to reliable sources - whilst I appreciate that you may have great first-hand knowledge, such facts could not be used unless supported by verifiable sources. If you could create something along these lines, I would be happy to take a look and possibly add it to the article (if it were appropriate to do so).

Do you have a free photograph that could be used? If so, please upload it at commons:upload.

Let me know, cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanksssssss

Hi! Chzz, you have been of great help and have always given prompt answers to all my queries. Thanks a lot for that! Kindly tell me about the Barnstar thing. How to award it to someone? Give me a link to find details about it. Also, i would like to know if i am anyhow charged(in terms of money) whenever i visit the Wikipedia website or whenever i log into my account on Wikipedia or whenever i open any new page in Wikipedia? Kindly help. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Barnstars are detailed in WP:BARNSTAR. To award one, you just copy the appropriate code and put it in a message on someones talk page - for example, {{subst:The Original Barnstar|Your message here ~~~~}}. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese overseas empire

Is there a need to include {{Portuguese overseas empire}} in all the Indian places which at some moment were under Portuguese rule. These are too big a templates and as such there are many Indian places which at some point of time were ruled by some or the other kingdoms. Are we going to include the details of all such kingdoms in the respective places’ articles. These templates have been included in the articles of all the Portuguese colonies in India. In some articles these templates are even bigger than the article itself. I have been harshly warned against deleting these templates. When my edits were reverted, i didn’t redo my edits. I was a relative newcomer when i deleted these templates(and even today probably, i am a newcomer). Do i ought to get such a warning? Sometime back a user took objection on mine warning a fellow newcomer, isn’t this([2]) a similar case of Biting. Kindly go through this. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I would recommend discussing it on the talk page of the specific article(s). If it is a sweeping change, then the place to discuss it would be Template talk:Portuguese overseas empire. I see that this is a pretty quiet page, so it would be useful to leave a short, polite note on the talk pages of editors that you think might be able to comment - for example, major contributors to the articles in question (check history), and perhaps on related project talks, such as Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portugal.

As to whether the warning was appropriate, I haven't looked into the details, but my advice would be to forget about it. Assume good faith - that their intention was to try and help you increase your knowledge in order to make the project better.

Hope this helps. Good luck with it.  Chzz  ►  19:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Self-references and primary sources

Yo Chzz, just spotted your comment at User_talk:EPresslerHenderson and had a small bone to pick. Your advice was generally great, but you did say " You should remove the reference to "Dale Rogers Training Center" because that is a self-reference to a primary source." That link goes to a page discouraging references to Wikipedia, rather than references to the topic of the article. There are cases in which primary sources are acceptable, as mentioned at WP:PRIMARY. Otherwise, keep up the good work! Mahalo,  Skomorokh  19:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks; quite right. I have changed it to a link to WP:PRIMARY, and have modified my comment to "I think... (you should remove it). Thank you for pointing that out.  Chzz  ►  19:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks on notability and one further question

Thanks for all the great info you gave me. This is the first time I've made significant changes to a wiki article and will work on making it as quality as possible.

I was wondering one thing: is there some type of timeframe on an article with notability tag on it getting deleted? I have this horrible image of coming back to it Monday with all the right "fixes" and finding that the article is gone! :O --EPresslerHenderson (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC) Oh, and random note: "inspirational" was the literary genre of Dale Evans Rogers' book, not the quality of it.  :) However, I'll see if I can find some specific stats instead of merely calling it a "bestseller." --EPresslerHenderson (talk) 20:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Timeframe - articles that meet specific criteria can be 'speedy deleted', which can happen almost instantly. Howeverm this only applies to very specific criteria, which this article will not fit. (See WP:CSD).

More formal deletion processes allow 7 days for discussion (after notification). In this case, I don't see much danger of that happening either.

In any case, it is important to know that deleted articles can be restored to user space, fixed up, and put back.

There is no deadline.

Re. 'inspirational' - would a wikilink to Inspirational fiction perhaps help?

 Chzz  ►  20:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks, sounds like I have time to do this right, then. Regarding the inspirational fiction possibility, I don't think so since it's inspirational non-fiction. I checked to see if there's an article on that, but alas, none. --EPresslerHenderson (talk) 21:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Aha. Thus a source for inspiration - another article needed! :-)  Chzz  ►  22:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Reverting

I have Lupin's Anti-Vandal Tool and when I go to someones talk page and click recent Ip edits on the tool box. Then I clicked Toggle these details. I found a mistake in editing. But I don't know how to revert it. Can you help me. Thanks

(Unsigned; from WaveRunner85 (talk · contribs) 20:44, 29 May 2009  Chzz  ►  21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC))

Lupin's Anti-Vandal (dup heading removed;  Chzz  ►  21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC))

I have Lupins and I went to a friends talk page. I went to toolbox and then clicked recent Ip edits. then I clicked toggle these details. I could see the page before he edited it and after he edited it. He made a mistake and I wanted to correct him. Do I have to go to the page or can I do it from there? Thanks. WaveRunner85 (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Ref. User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool

Hi. I have never used that tool, so I don't know; perhaps you could ask for help on User talk:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool?  Chzz  ►  21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Adoption

What's the policy for changing adopters? GandalftheWise changed WaveRunner85's adopter to himself without WaveRunner85's or my consent (as I am the adopter) and I have reverted GandalftheWise's edits until WaveRunner85 gets back to me. I'm thinking this is legit. Do you have any other advice that I could use? Class I Laser ^ZAP! _Boom! 21:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There is no 'policy' regarding these type of informal arrangements; the idea is just a way of helping each other out. Talk to the other people, discuss it, etc.  Chzz  ►  21:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi from Jack Saisamon

Thank you for your note. And good luck to you! Do you know Thai? I think I see Hindi on you page. I want so much to write bio on Dr. Maas. I wrote, but someone deleted it. I not know how to put in correctly references, etc. I think it is to hard for me--I do grapics for Pattaya Trader, but not knlw Wiki style. Did you read what I wrote on the page that was deleted? I would like to publish it, but to hard for me. Could you kindly read it and help me get i proper form. I do not know anyone here who knows about Wiki. Thank you very much, and regards from Thailand —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie-thai (talk • contribs) 04:20, 30 May 2009 (UTC) PS from Jackie Many of my friends in university in Bangkok are using Wikipedia when doing English papers. It is very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie-thai (talk • contribs) 04:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I know a little bit of Thai. Nit noi.

When you write messages on talk pages, please "sign your name" by putting ~~~~. This will put your user name and the date.

Do not worry about 'wikipedia style'. You can write plain text, and other people will help you fix it.

You do need to give references. These are important. It is not too difficult; I will add some help to your talk page.

Try to make the page, and ask for help whenever you need it.

Good luck,  Chzz  ►  07:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Logo xplusone.gif)

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Help!

Kindly reply to the second part of my question asked here- [3]. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 06:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia is free. Look at what the logo says ;-) Killiondude (talk) 07:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops, yes, I did forget that bit. I started typing something...meh. Anyway. Yes, free. Totally.  Chzz  ►  07:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		A Barnstar for you for always helping me out of my predicaments. Thanks!

Kesangh (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

User:MTStern

Hi chzz. I was on IRC earlier, & helped out this user: User_talk:MTStern#Please_help_with_image_upload. - also the other short paragraphs.

If/when you get time (!), please would you mind checking that (1) he's now fine (as we've guests coming round tonight), and (2) [whenever], checking that I've given reasonable responses? I've never actually uploaded an image! Much obliged as ever. Trafford09 (talk) 15:45, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'll add something. The stuff you wrote looks Ok, but I suggest you upload something for yourself, so that you know the process. Probably worth uploading one to Wikipedia and one to commons. You can just delete 'em afterwards. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

new to wiki

I have been a huge fan of Wikipedia for a while now. i recently became a member when, while trying to search for the band "we all have hooks for hands" i typed simply "hooks for hands" in the search field, and was redirected to the band the Kaiser Chiefs. I searched the full name and found the correct band, I signed up to correct that. Since then i have been reading the FAQ's and what to do and not to do for wikipedia editing.

The hooks page referecnes a collaboration that they did with Soulcrate Music. Soulcrate is currently in red on a couple of pages that reference them, can i make a page for them to turn those links blue?

My questions are: Is that proper? how do i set up a sub page or stub on my page and have it looked at for critiquing before posting it to wikipedia at large? And. is a regional magazine notable enough to count as a reference? [4] (p.14)

your help is appreciated [above posted by User_talk:PosterKnutbag].

Hi PosterKnutbag. Just giving you a quick answer, to keep you going until chzz gets back to continue.

Yes, it's very proper indeed for you to turn red-links blue, by creating an article. The more you fancy doing, the more popular you'll be! As chzz suggested, start by 'playing' in your user area. For example, create User:PosterKnutbag/Soulcrate Music. Then when you're happy with it, come back here (or talk to us on IRC), to ask chzz, me or anyone to review it. And yes, a regional magazine is fine. Need the name, publisher, page no., article title, unless better still the same is available online - that's the ref you gave us above I guess. So, be bold, have fun & we'll speak to you again later when you're ready. Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, I suggest you edit some existing articles before creating your own. It's the best way to 'learn the ropes'. You might be interested in the cleanup campaign, or helping out with peer reviews. You could browse the many projects, look at the newest articles, or maybe just something random. We have a huge backlog of tasks.

Secondly, before you start creating an article, make sure that the subject meets the notability requirements. In the case you mentioned, that would be WP:BAND. For general guides, see WP:N.

Thirdly, as Trafford said - experiment in your user area. Have a go at things, and ask for help whenever you need it, and get people to check over your work. One of the most important things is to add references - for tips on that, see user:chzz/help/ref.

Good luck with it.  Chzz  ►  23:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S. At the end of messages, please "sign" your name with ~~~~ - this automatically adds links to your pages, and puts the date and time.  Chzz  ►  23:09, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Citing Archives

I'm creating an article that is heavily dependant on archival references, but I can't find a template to cite archives. What would you recommend? MacMed^talk_stalk 16:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Use template:cite - that fits just about anything.  Chzz  ►  20:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

For the re-format on my user page. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

welcome (Fesm ndt)

thanks for the welcome..... I wanted to do an article on Stonefield military vehicles....... but may be a ways of. Just noticed also don't have RB$$ Reynolds Boughtons.......

I had a dabble with editing Pinzgauer..... Linked my bit back to the Volvo C303 Wikipedia page.... This page is named incorrectly as should be Volvo C303 & C304 as both examples are there.

I guess that type of do one thing and find twenty others happens all the time

regards

mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fesm ndt (talk • contribs) 01:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Yes, that is exactly what happens - one thing leads to another. It's fun though.

One thing - please, when you write messages like the above, "sign" your name by putting ~~~~ on the end. This will add your username, and the date/time.

I suggest working through the 'welcome' - make a test page, and then edit some more existing articles before making your own first one. You can use the test page for that, too - then you can always ask people to check it, before it goes 'live'.

Hope to hear from you again. Good luck,  Chzz  ►  01:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Got it! Thank you!

Thank Chzz-- with your help and Trafford, I finally got it to work! Thanks!!

MTStern (talk) 05:42, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice work; Koinonia (band) looks a lot better for it. Thanks for remembering to sign too :-)

The best approach, I think, is always to have a go. If things go horribly wrong, it really doesn't matter, because anything can be undone. And if you ever get stuck, please don't sit there pulling your hair out - ask for help. We're all here for the same reasons - to make Wikipedia better. If we can help each other, that's great.  Chzz  ►  05:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Testing talkback

Yo. Just needed to check the template by leaving it on some else's page; you were the guinea-pig. Thx.  Chzz  ►  06:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for the tips Chzz. But I can't talk now. It's very late here and I need to get up early in the morning. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armstrong777 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Tireless contributor barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For Being such a good Editor (you should be a admin) The One and Only (El-Pabloski : Chat 18:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC))

(moved from user page, where it was added with this edit and this edit, sig from this  Chzz  ►  09:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC))

?

Hi Chzz, I know it's a bit cheeky of me to ask, but do you think you could have a look over this article I've been working on-User:Dottydotdot/workpage/History_of_Dubai before I move it over to the mainspace. The current article is at History of Dubai. Any comments on my talk page would be much appreciated-how to improve/what needs to be done etc., thank you! Dottydotdot (talk) 01:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

 Done via IRC, I think? Ask when you need more. Nice work. 02:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thank you for your help Chzz, here & on IRC. Much appreciated. Dottydotdot (talk) 09:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Susan Matheson

Hi there Chzz,

I have given up on editing the page for Susan Matheson. After spending significant time and energy trying to attach the correct references from print sources including the WWD article that you referred to as well as the L.A. Times article as well as a new one from ESPN sports, someone went through the entire page and erased all references. I am extremely frustrated and feel that this has been a waste of time and that Wikipedia is incredibly unfriendly towards new users. I feel like I have been attacked by faceless strangers.

I appreciate all your tireless help, but I don't know if Wikipedia is really open to anyone other than insiders.

thanks so much —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crepesuze (talk • contribs) 10:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

There are no 'insiders' - I am just a regular user, like yourself. We are all volunteers. I have just been here for a while, so perhaps I understand things a bit better.

We have had to make guidelines. We have all agreed to these guidelines. We discuss them a lot, and come up with 'policies'. For example, we have a policy on how well-known people must be to have an article - this is called 'Notability'. We have to have this, because otherwise, anyone can write an article about themselves. If there is no coverage in reliable sources (like newspapers or books), then there is no way to check the facts - so they could make up anything.

Do not worry about things being removed. Click on 'history', and you can see the old versions; you can also see who changed what, when they changed it, and exactly what they changed. We can discuss the changes, and try to reach a consensus.

We - that is, the community, which includes me and you - try very hard to make things as easy as possible. However, Wikipedia has almost 10 million users and 3 million articles. It gets complicated. We really do try hard to welcome new users though.

I will do everything that I can to help you. I advise you - do not worry about this article. Work on some other things for a while - get the hang of things a bit. Even if the article gets deleted, it doesn't matter - as I say, you can get a copy of the deleted article, fix it up, and reinstate it. But if you work on some other things first, you will be in a better position to do so.

I will put some suggestions onto your page - ideas for things that you could edit. Please - it would be great if you gave it a bit more chance. Work on some minor editing, and you will quickly begin to understand more about how things work. For example - that user that warned you? Rmzadeh has only made 184 edits. They do not have any special rights, they are not an administrator. You have just as much 'right' to warn them :-) Not that I suggest you do. They were probably correct in worrying about the conflict of interest. They, like you, are hopefully here to try and make Wikipedia better - and they were worried that a biased article might not be good.

I'm not an administrator either. I'm just the same as you. We're all equal. Yes, we have administrators, but - they can only do things according to what everyone decides. They don't have any more sway than anyone else.

The system does, largely, work. It is not perfect, but - well, if you think that something is wrong, please fix it. The policies are written by us. If you don't think that a policy is correct, change the policy. It's a wiki, and that is what it is all about.

I hope that you will give Wikipedia a bit more of a chance. Please ask me whenever you need help - but, I really recommend, try some of the suggestions in the welcome message, and try some of the suggestions I'll give at the end of your page.

Good luck.  Chzz  ►  11:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your suggestions about editing some of those other articles. I would be happy to do the research. What part of the world are you in, I noticed that your welcome sign says "youkoso" in Japanese? By the way, how are you able to tell how many edits a person has done? --Crepesuze (talk) 11:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello again.

I was just chatting to the person who added all those references to the article - I'm currently trying to improve them by adding more details.

I am in the UK; I have lived in Japan too, hence the 日本語.

One way to check edit counts is using this tool. Another way is to go to "my preferences", "gadgets", and tick the "Navigation popups" box. Then, when you hover your mouse over a user name, it will show the edit count.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

How long have you been on Wikipedia? I was just wondering how lengthy a learning curve there is until I am no longer functioning like a complete moron! Right now I'm barely crawling. A question: who determines whether a subject is notable enough for Wikipedia? --Crepesuze (talk) 12:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

About a year, really. I dabbled a bit before that, but I only got 'serious' about a year ago.

All I can say is, it's a steep initial learning curve, and after a while it kinda 'clicks'. You 'get it'. It all begins to make sense, this whole 'wiki' thing.

Who decides notability? We do. We - the community - have come up with some guidelines - there's the general one WP:GNG, and then specific ones for things like WP:BAND and WP:ORG, etc. Notability itself is fairly easy-going; we can't make any 'strict rules', a degree of common sense is required. The rule of thumb is, Google it, and see if there is a reasonable coverage - apart from blog sites, myspace, and other self-made sources. Some news articles or mentions in books are usually enough.

It works like this: 'speedy deletion' should only be for things that are 'obviously' not notable - or are "patent nonsense", or advertising, or things like that. See WP:CSD.

Anyone can tag such an article for speedy deletion, and then an admin will look at it, and decide if it meets the criteria, and if so, will delete it.

Hopefully, this only happens in clear-cut cases. Anything that isn't obvious should go to the deletion review process, commonly known as "AfD" - articles for deletion. This is a 7-day discussion, to which anyone can contribute. Have a look, in WP:AFD.

I hope this gives you some more understanding. Keep asking as much as you like; I'll do my best to answer. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  13:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the 'Howdy!'

I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to say hi. I am brand new to Wikipedia and so far have only been making small edits (mostly typos and grammatical mistakes). I appreciated all the links and I am slowly catching up with all the policies to make sure I am helping in proper ways. Any more advice or suggestions you may have would be welcomed and appreciated. Alucardwolf (talk) 14:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

My suggestions would be;

• Talk to us, with this. It's much easier to explain and talk through things;

• Try things on your test page (in the 'welcome' thing);

• Don't worry about making mistakes - have a go - anything can be 'undone';

• Ask for help whenever you need it - don't struggle

Best of luck with it,  Chzz  ►  14:07, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Euroleague Player /Doc

sunbirdarchive.fresno.edu/sunbirdsports/basketball/men/profile/athlete/urbiztondo_josh/bio.html - 17k - It is taken from the above website. What do I put down for a license? Need help in uploading image.Please give detaied instruction for I am computer illiterate.Thanks Also deleted my recent article on Josh Urbiztondo.I will pay u cash money if you submit for me.I don't understand the complexity of it all.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyatt Urb (talk • contribs) 14:05, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

At the bottom of that website, it says, "Copyright © 2003 1717 S. Chestnut, Fresno, CA." - Wikipedia cannot use copyright images (with certain very special exceptions). It is not possible for us to use that image. Sorry,  Chzz  ►  14:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Otokar kaya

I have re started the deleted Otokar kaya page, does it looks legit. {{Mystery.sin (talk) 15:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)}}

There is something wrong with the page i created it doesnt show up when you type otokar kaya you can only view it from this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokar_Kaya —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mystery.sin (talk • contribs) 15:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me out about redirects. It was a really useful info i will use it more oftenly :) {Mystery.sin (talk) 15:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)}

Barnstar

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		You're nice, you're a great helper. Keep up the great work pal ! Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 16:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Same goes for me. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Re. User:BasicallyGood/Braille Challenge

Made comments on your suggestions, still a little confused.

Thanks for your help!

BasicallyGood (talk) 17:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Timothy Prager new entry

Hiya,

I have submitted this new entry and am unclear why is does not meet the notability criteria. Timothy Prager has a fifteen year body of work in British and American television and film as well as writing two musicals for the stage - His work has been seen in aggregate by literally hundreds of millions of people. Please advise. Thanks, Gabjatp (talk) 19:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi. The problem with the article is, there are no references. All facts should be supported by references to reliable sources - it should be possible for the reader to verify the information for themself. Examples of suitable references are newspapers, books, and magazines - not directly connected to the artist, and reasonably dependable for facts.

I had a quick look on Google news search here, and it looks like it should be possible to find sources.

For help on how to add them, see user:chzz/help/ref.

The article will not be removed for 7 days, so if you manage to add references before then, please let me know and I will see if there is enough proof of notability to remove the proposed deletion. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:07, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Please help me, I'm sinking again

Hello and thanks once again for all of your incredible help.

Could you please look at Rmzadeh's talk page for me. He has once again gone and retagged the page with an "original research" tag and a "pov" tag, even though the citation he is disputing is one that you kindly added. Here is a copy of the entry from my history page. (cur) (prev) 14:03, 31 May 2009 Chzz (talk | contribs) (4,433 bytes) (→Biography: add cite for school designer of the year (LA times)) (undo) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crepesuze (talk • contribs)

Update: I asked Rmzadeh to read the article that you linked to, and he removed the tags...wow, wikipedia can be quite fast and furious and exciting, who knew! Is this quite a common occurence? it is almost like a game of Battleship where the game is questioning one another's references, fascinating. Once again, as always, thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crepesuze (talk • contribs) 21:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Glad it got sorted out. Yes, sometimes it can move pretty fast. For example, in the last 30 minutes, 50 new articles were created. This goes on, 24/7. (You can see those in special:Newpages, if you're interested).  Chzz  ►  21:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Question? Is there ever a point where people stop going back and forth questioning one another's references and simmer down, or is this part of Wikipedia's distinctive charm and beauty?--Crepesuze (talk) 21:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

This made me laugh out loud :-)

It varies tremendously. There are articles that haven't been changed for 7 years, and some of them are awful. There are others that, really, are probably forever destined to change several times per day. There's an interesting tool, http://www.wikirage.com/ which shows the current most edited articles. Often it's something in the news they can get really manic. Most run-of-the-mill articles remain largely stable - perhaps with occasional spurts of disagreement. What I have seen, many times, is a huge amount of edit-warring over articles - and after the dust has settled, it's interesting to compare the old version and the new one. The outcome of all the troubles is often a much better article.

I suppose what I'm saying is, there is no fixed answer - it varies so much. Featured articles tend to be reasonably stable, but even they are not exempt. "Today's featured article" tends to get edited quite a lot during the day it appears. I just had a quick look at today's - SMS Von der Tann - and it has been edited about 50 times.

Once a dispute has been resolved through consensus, there isn't a lot that the opposing party can do. They can scream and shout a bit, but people will just say "Look at this link, we've agreed this" - and that's a pretty solid argument. Consensus can change, of course - but if something settled is re-opened straight away, everyone tends to use that as a reason to swiftly close the argument.

Your question was amusing, but also made me think. I'll see if anyone else might care to add comments to this. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  22:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S. For related commentry, see WP:FLOG  Chzz  ►  23:07, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Change username

Hi, sorry top bother you but I'd like to know how I go about changing the username cos I got it wrong the first time. It should be VOLUNTARIO GLOBAL. Thanks so much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Volunatrio Global (talk • contribs) 21:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't choose that name. Because it is the name of an organization, it may be considered a WP:SPAMNAME and your account might be blocked for advertising. It would be much better to choose a neutral, meaningless nickname.

To change name, go to Wikipedia:Change_username. You should definitely change it as soon as possible.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Pinky

Out of interest, what needed fixing? <Ref name> works no matter whether the content for the reference comes before or afterwards. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 01:56, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, was just a crossover; we were patrolling new pages, and I tried to add a ref while passing; when edit conflicted, I missed exactly what had happened.

That's one amazing dolphin! I hope the article can be expanded a bit - it deserves to get on the front-page as a Did You Know. Cheers, sorry again for any troubles,  Chzz  ►  02:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. After I posted, I guessed it was probably an e/c. I was sceptical about the dolphin's existence, then found news stories from Aus and here in the UK about it, so I'm glad to be proved wrong. Sadly, I suspect the image will soon be deleted from Commons as a copyvio... Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 02:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

GAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

		A welcomer's sack of potatoes
		You keep beating me to welcomes! With all the welcoming you do, I think you deserve this. Don't worry it's not a bad thing.--Abce2|AccessDenied 02:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Ty. I think.  :-)  Chzz  ►  02:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

interested3/morgellons

yep, they undid my writing and research. can u undo, it was good news? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interested3 (talk • contribs) 10:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

This user has now been blocked for sockpuppeting.  Chzz  ►  08:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Introduction to quantum mechanics

Thanks for the fine suggestions. The editors who had control of the article previously have been quiet so far, so maybe we can turn out a good nontechnical article here. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Good luck; let me know if I can help further. Nobody owns articles - if that becomes a problem, it's easy to deal with it by getting more input from the wider community.  Chzz  ►  05:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to insert the Navigation Template. Could you do it in lieu of the See Also section? The principal discussion of the Request for Comment is going on at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Introduction_to_quantum_mechanics#Request_for_comment. I copied your lengthy message over there. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:02, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I have copied my rough attempt over to the live area, Template:Infobox quantum. I have then added it to Introduction to quantum mechanics by putting just {{Navbox quantum}}. This transcludes the template onto the page. Any edits you make to the template will therefore appear on that page (and any other pages that it may later be used on). Note that it is 'collapsed' (hidden) - this is the automatic default behavious when a page contains more than a few templates. There's a way of making it 'not collapsed' - I'll figure that out shortly, and let you know. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  06:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I'll look in on that discussion later.  Chzz  ►  06:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I've just added a bit of code to the template to optionally allow the 'state' to be specified. I've changed it in Introduction to quantum mechanics to {{Navbox quantum|state=uncollapsed}}. Seems to work. Please do feel free to edit Template:navbox quantum - I'm sure the sections and things need sorting out. Should be fairly easy to see how it works; if you have troubles, give me a shout. Oh - that page might not show as uncollapsed unless you do a purge - so click this to clear the cache. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  06:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

P.P.S. Being quantum, shouldn't the 'state' be both collapsed and uncollapsed at the same time?

Uhh. If you say so. GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I could use your help at Talk:Introduction_to_quantum_mechanics#Request_for_comment Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I have looked in on this already, and I will endeavor to keep following it.  Chzz  ►  08:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Lynn25

Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome message and the tips. Lynn25 (talk) 02:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Lynn25

You're welcome :-)  Chzz  ►  03:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Stopping By To Say Hi

just wanna say hi

so...hi!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosey Turlip (talk • contribs) 04:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello to you too. Nice work adding those links. Ask whenever you need help, best of luck,  Chzz  ►  03:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

thankyou =)

Yes thank you so much for contacting me, I am a reggae DJ in the chicago reggae community for a long time and i am interested in writing an article. i can see here that you really have to know what you are talking about in order to do so, so i want to be careful about it. I will be contacting you when i have questions. It is a pleasure to digitally meet you!

Much love and blessing from above,

Andrew Lewis (DJ Andju) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djandju (talk • contribs) 04:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page  Chzz  ►  21:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature

I really like your signature so I sort of borrowed it. would you mind me copying your source code or should I change it :) --  Rmzadeh  ►  08:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's fine, no problem at all. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, fixed the problem as well --  Rmzadeh  ►  18:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Braille Literacy

I edited the literacy article with a summary of the Challenge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chzz/Braille_literacy

Is it enough? I'm still not sure what else needs to be moved where, or how to do it. BasicallyGood (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The summary thing is great. I think the only thing needed now is a summary of the Braille literacy article, for the top in User:Chzz/Braille literacy. Could you possibly write that? After that, I'd be happy to change the live version to the same format as this test version, if you approve. Cheers.  Chzz  ►  02:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

hi (from Danny3327)

my names is danial koravor i live on highway 27 near cookstown ont. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danny3327 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for saying hello. I've seen your other edits though... please don't do things like that again. It will be removed pretty quickly, and if you keep doing it, you'll be blocked from editing.

I hope that you will get involved with Wikipedia. If you read the 'Welcome' thing, make a test page - and play around on that. If you need help, talk to us with this.

I hope to hear from you again. If you do write another message, please "Sign" your name by putting "~~~~" at the end. Best of luck,  Chzz  ►  03:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Temperary Fix

I temperately redirected the space in order to prevent users from linking to the live space made by my incorrect signature coding as I have used that sig more than 40 times already. hopefully the temp redirect of an empty page is not against the rules. thank you very much for noticing it and letting me know. --  Rmzadeh  ►  19:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice work, yeah. Don't worry about 'rules' for things like that; WP:IAR applies perfectly, it's obviously sensible. Only trouble is, someone is likely to speedy it. Anyway - looks like you've been busy fixing 'em? Me too, now; I couldn't do it immediately, but now I'm running an auto wiki browser search-and-replace on 'what links here' to the page in mainspace. That *should* catch them all, with the possible exception of the most recent; do an advanced search on "Usertalk:Rmzadeh" tomorrow to check. To see what I've fixed, see my contribs around now-ish. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  19:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much! without your help I doubt I would have ever fixed all those wrong links. just searched and none left. removing the redirect and requesting delete --  Rmzadeh  ►  22:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi from Moonbeck

Hi Chzz, just starting to find my way around. Thanks. Moonbeck Moonbeck (talk) 21:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. I thought I'd leave you a reply, as it might help you see how talk pages work. If you ever need help, please do ask for it. Also, it'd be great if you call in to the help channel with this. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar of Guidance

		The Guidance Barnstar
		I appreciate all your assistance in guiding me out of my mess and fixing my mistakes --  Rmzadeh  ►  00:50, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. Please don't worry about it; it was nothing. We all fuck up from time to time - doesn't matter, 'coz anything can be fixed. I hope that it won't stop you from being bold. Best,  Chzz  ►  01:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Bell Tower (band) help

Thanks for your help,

I am a little confused with

"copy that hatnote from the building one (about 'not to be confused with), and then make it a disambiguation page, listing the two articles with bullet points, and putting {{disambig}} at the end."

I know how to do everything up to that, if you could explain the above a little differently I'll give it a try

(unsigned message from Element014 (talk · contribs) 20:33, 1 June 2009  Chzz  ►  20:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC))

• Please remember to sign messages, by putting ~~~~ on the end.

I see that you have made the new article, so now, you need to change "Bell Tower" - which is currently a redirect to "Bell Tower (building)" - into a disambiguation page.

Get to the redirect by going to this special address,

And put;

{{Distinguish2|a [[bell tower]] on a church or other building}}

'''Bell Tower''' may refer to:

* [[Bell Tower (Building), an office tower in Canada

*[[Bell Tower (band), an alternative rock band from Alberta

{{disambig}}

Hope this works; let me know.  Chzz  ►  20:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Thats very helpful. The article is live and up for deletion. Everything is cited and valid. I have posted 2 reasons of notability in the discussion dirrectly from the WP:MUS page.

What should I do to prevent the article from being deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Element014 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Answered on user talk page.  Chzz  ►  21:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok will do, thanks for your help. Feel free to add what ever reason you see for the page to stay to the discussion, I need all the support I can get. writing an independent music topic is a challenge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Element014 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I've tried to fix up the article, but drawn a blank on the refs. I've left feedback on the user talk page.  Chzz  ►  23:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

How to create a hyperlink

Hi,

If I add any word to any article.How should i create a hyper link for it?

Thnx

Dwikigyan (talk) 09:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. To create a link to another article, you put it in double square brackets. For example, if you put [[sausage]] it will appear as sausage.

You might want to link one word to another - for example;

I like [[sausage|sausages]]

Will appear as;

I like sausages

For more on this, see WP:LINKING.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Pic question from Post Millennium Rock

thanks for the message, how do you add a picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Post Millennium Rock (talk • contribs) 12:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

this is a picture

When you leave messages, please "sign" your name by putting ~~~~ at the end, this will put your username and the date/time.

You just put [[file:ostrich.jpg|thumb|this is a picture]] or something like that. This example shows the pic here. For more, see WP:IMAGES.  Chzz  ►  12:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)