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46th issue of Hurricane Herald newsletter

Volume XLVI, Issue 46, March 1, 2021
←(Previous issues) 43 · 44 · 45 · 46 · 47 →


The Hurricane Herald

The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the member list. New members will automatically receive this newsletter. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from January 15–February 28, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are MarioJump83, Destroyeraa, HurricaneCovid, CycloneFootball71, HurricaneEdgar, Skarmory, Typhoon2013 (editor's pick for member of the month), and our member of the month, LightandDark2000! Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions, including past MoTMs and SoTMs, can be viewed here.

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments

  • In response to the initial selection of Cyclone Toby as MoTM of the last edition, the long established-practice of picking MoTM (edition) by the main editor of Hurricane Herald was changed, with one that involved most of the WPTC community being created. The original practice continues to live on, but in the form of MoTM (Editor's Pick), as wished by longtime editor of the Hurricane Herald, Hurricanehink. The details of this event were recorded in the notes of the last edition and in this edition.
  • On January 13, 2021, Destroyeraa announced the Cyclone Cup, which was inspired by the WikiCup. There are seven participants in the 2021 Cyclone Cup, who are: CodingCyclone, Skarmory, CycloneFootball71, MarioJump83, Jason Rees, HurricaneCovid, and LightandDark2000. This is the second-ever competition organized by members of WPTC. The first competition organized by WPTC members was the WPTC Bowl, which started on January 2012, before flaming out by the end of 2012 without anyone winning the competition. The WPTC Bowl was also inspired by the WikiCup, similar to the Cyclone Cup, but ran differently from the Cyclone Cup. We hope that the Cyclone Cup ends up successful, with a winner.
  • In the light of BCNY2011's membership situation (now globally locked and was found to be socking also), I, MarioJump83, heavily revamped the members list of WPTC as well as formalized WPTC bylaws, with some modifications, regarding inactive membership, thus allowing veteran WPTC members Runningonbrains, Juliancolton (two of the 14 WPTC core members), Atomic7732 and Derpdadoodle to rejoin the project. I also tried to enforce some guidelines regarding recruiting and membership as it was discussed previously, but since I did not discuss and establish the consensus in regards to enforcement and the shape of "guidelines" as of now is more of an essay, for now they will be considered unofficial and have yet to be implemented. It will be discussed later on, probably in a survey.
  • During Wikipedia's 15th anniversary, I officially revived the Non-tropical storms WikiProject (WPNTS), due to WPTC editors actively joining the WikiProject, despite the fact that the WikiProject was defunct. (More reasons will be stated in my opinion piece in the next issue of the WPNTS newsletter.) Despite its formal revival, WPNTS was not fully reorganized until February 7. That day, I closely modeled that WikiProject after WikiProject Tropical cyclones, thus tying WPNTS together with WPTC, as the two WikiProjects are closely intertwined. In the meanwhile, I discovered the defunct newsletter of WPNTS and later on, WikiProject Severe Weather, both of which has their last issues in March 2008. As I began WPNTS makeover, I revived both publications. The WikiProject Non-tropical storms Newsletter, which is known as The Frozen Times, and the WikiProject Severe weather Newsletter will become sister publications of The Hurricane Herald going forward. I have set their publication dates on March 15, and April 1, 2021, respectively, and they are going to become semi-regular newsletters. Before they ever get published, I implore you to help me writing these newsletters, the links for which are listed here: The Frozen Times, WikiProject Severe Weather.
  • Alongside the revamp above, I discovered the 2011 list through looking at the edit history of the members page, which shows the true extent of this WikiProject's popularity, as well as the members that joined the project after 2011 but were eventually removed from the roster, as the after effects of Hurricanefan25's mass removal of inactive WikiProject members. I restored them back to the list during and after the revamp - they were truly part of the WikiProject during the golden age of WPTC and I see it's removal by the sock of Perseus, Son of Zeus, as effectively destroying the history of the WPTC because of the importance of these members. The restored list reveals that Knowledgekid87 is actually a member of WPTC back in the day and clearly still participates in the project, while Rosalina2427 is actually an another member of the 14 golden age WPTC remnants that still remain to this day. (Note: These were the members that was listed before TheAustinMan joined the project) Our newsletter's subscribers AySz88, RingTailedFox, WmE, Douglasr007, Dylan620 and X! were actually members of this WikiProject, despite the belief that they weren't. And the others, such as Good kitty and Miss Madeline were very influential in the building of this WikiProject. In conclusion, you can see that there is more from the WikiProject than meets the eye. The WikiProject used to be huge before 2010s decade started, and they were the building blocks of the project that unfortunately were erased by some sock.
  • The three-month merge moratorium, which has been implemented since November 23, 2020, ended on February 23, at 03:45:00 UTC. During the moratorium, when it was in effect, there were generally no attempts to discuss changes to the moratorium, nor were there any requests for article mergers. However, there were two requests to allow an exception to the merge moratorium. One of which was to merge Meteorological history of Hurricane Michael to the Hurricane Michael as that article presents an obstacle for Hurricane Michael article to reach GA - the consensus for exception was quickly reached on Christmas 2020, and on January 5 the article was finally merged. The other, which was meant for Hurricane Jeanne's impacts articles, was never made into a proposal and thus were not seriously discussed at all. The first such merger after the merge moratorium expired was merging Tropical Storm Amanda (2020) and Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020) into Tropical Storm Amanda–Cristobal, which later was requested to be moved into 2020 Central America and Mexico floods and opposers of the merger requested splitting them back once again.

New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

2018 Featured Topic Update
Featured Articles promoted (January 1–February 28)
  • None during this issue.
Good Articles promoted (January 1–February 28)
  • None during this issue.
Current Candidates
  • None during this issue.
New Articles (Only C and below, January 1–February 28)
During this issue...

I, MarioJump83, the interim coordinator of 2018 Global FT's WPAC squad, feels bad with what is going on as I felt we are taking a step back with the ongoing real-life difficulties regarding important members of our task force. KN2731 had to take a wikibreak because of the compulsory service in Singapore and will likely be gone for two years; Destroyeraa's activities were highly inhibited by multiple illnesses, school exams, "bullying" issues, and series of winter storms this month; Hurricane Noah almost took a two-month-long wikibreak because due to college studies, which Noah is committed to (he also left the WPTC Discord for a couple of months, due to toxicity). I don't really like to take a lot of responsibilities within the 2018 Global FT task force, as I had joined with the intent of helping GA's that involves this year, i.e. like what I did in Cyclone Ava and Cyclone Owen as of now, but with so many of us were forced out of commission due to these problems I mentioned, I and LightandDark2000 had to take much of the responsibility within the task force. Because of this reason, I strongly recommend you, readers of Hurricane Herald, to join this task force to help take pressure off from us. Note that this is not a formal invite, as Wikipedia is free and anyone can edit, but this is what we have to deal with in this current situation, especially because of our real-life problems and commitments. Let's hope that we, including you, can make this through with what we can do!

We are recruiting

If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to LightandDark2000 or any other member of the 2018 FT task force.

WikiProject To-Do


Here are some tasks you can do:
Storms of the month over the last year
Month Storm
February 2021 Cyclone Guambe
January 2021 Cyclone Eloise
Storm of the Year 2020 Hurricane Eta
December 2020 Cyclone Yasa
November 2020 Hurricane Iota
October 2020 Typhoon Goni (2020)
September 2020 Cyclone Ianos
August 2020 Hurricane Laura
July 2020 Hurricane Isaias
June 2020 Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020)
May 2020 Cyclone Amphan
April 2020 Cyclone Harold
March 2020 Cyclone Herold

Storm of the month and other tropical activity for the rest of January and February

SoTM for January – Cyclone Eloise
Cyclone Eloise formed in January 14, to the east of another system, Cyclone Joshua, in the central South Indian Ocean. The disturbance developed into a tropical depression on January 16, and on the next day, the depression intensified into Moderate Tropical Storm Eloise. Eloise struggled to intensify, due to unfavorable conditions; however, the storm still managed to intensify further into Severe Tropical Storm Eloise on January 19. This strengthening trend did not last long, as Eloise made landfall in northern Madagascar, and interaction with mountains caused Eloise to weaken into a moderate tropical storm once more. Eloise emerged into the Mozambique Channel on January 20 and started intensifying again, despite having recently experienced a sustained land interaction. However, the storm slowed down, due to the location and the surrounding environment. Later on, Eloise managed to intensify into a full-fledged tropical cyclone, before proceeding to undergo rapid intensification as the storm neared landfall. Eloise peaked as a Category 2-equivalent tropical cyclone just before making landfall near Beira, Mozambique, on January 22, which had been affected by Tropical Storm Chalane just weeks prior, and was still recovering from the devastating impacts of Cyclone Idai nearly two years ago. Eloise then degenerated into a remnant low above Zimbabwe on January 25, and per JTWC, the remnants of Eloise soon dissipated above Botswana on January 26.

Eloise caused numerous disasters throughout numerous countries, specifically, in Madagascar, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Eswatini, and Mozambique. Mozambique was the hardest-hit. In Madagascar, Eloise destroyed 190 homes and caused the death of one person. In South Africa, Eloise caused the deaths of 10 people, four of which were children, in addition to being responsible for making another 7 people go missing. In Zimbabwe, Eloise caused damage and destruction to nearly a thousand homes, some of which were badly affected by Idai two years ago. Three people were also swept away by flooding from Eloise and were presumed to be dead. In Eswatini, over 1,500 people were affected by the storm, two of whom were killed. Eloise also damaged the water system and flooded the gravel roads and low-lying bridges. In Mozambique, the residents compared the cyclone's impacts to Cyclone Idai, which had catastrophically devastated the country two years earlier. This storm caused psychological trauma and mental health crises among the residents of the country. Eloise caused nine deaths in Mozambique, but massive amounts of farmland were flooded, and the storm also damaged over 30,000 houses, the majority of which were destroyed by the storm. 579 classrooms and 86 health centers had to be repaired after the storm.

SoTM for February – Cyclone Guambe
Cyclone Guambe formed as a disturbance in the Mozambique Channel in February 10. The disturbance subsequently transitioned into a subtropical depression two days later, as it made landfall in Mozambique. For the next several days, the system made a slow counterclockwise loop over Mozambique, while slowly organizing. The system re-emerged into the Mozambique Channel on February 16 and was designated as Tropical Disturbance 11. The disturbance was soon upgraded into a depression later that day, and the storm became Moderate Tropical Storm Guambe on the next day. Subsequently, Guambe proceeded to strengthen, intensifying into a severe tropical storm on February 18. Guambe then began to undergo rapid intensification, becoming a tropical cyclone on February 19, before peaking later that day as a Category 2-equivalent tropical cyclone. However, Guambe then underwent an eyewall replacement cyclone and began to weaken on February 20, as the storm accelerated towards the southeast. On February 21, Guambe became extratropical, Guambe was later absorbed by another extratropical cyclone on February 23.

Guambe caused widespread flooding in Mozambique, which displaced over 27,000 people and worsened the ongoing crisis in the region. Prisoners had to be transferred away from the cyclone because of potential flooding. There were no deaths recorded and damages were unknown, however the worst part of Guambe wasn't there yet. South Africa were also flooded by Guambe, which might have been caused by the secondary low-level circulation center (LLCC) of Guambe. This secondary LLCC had caused Guambe to slow down, which probably had devastating effects on Bazaruto Archipelago National Park's marine life, as 186 Spinner dolphins were probably killed by the storm. After Guambe re-emerged into the Mozambique Channel, no additional damage to human property was reported, thus marking the end of Guambe's impacts on land.

  • Western Pacific – The West Pacific basin saw its first tropical cyclone of the year develop, which was a tropical depression. This storm affected the Philippines for two days, on January 19–20. Another tropical cyclone developed in the next month, which developed into Tropical Storm Dujuan. Dujuan was not as damaging as the first tropical depression, but it ended up being deadlier. Dujuan dissipated soon after impacting the Philippines.
  • South-West Indian Ocean – Eloise, the seventh named storm of the season, formed on January 14, before becoming a named storm three days later. On January 19, Eloise made landfall on Madagascar as a moderate tropical storm. Afterward, the storm moved into the Mozambique Channel, undergoing rapid intensification as it neared Mozambique, before making landfall near Beira, Mozambique at peak intensity on January 23, as a Category-2 equivalent tropical cyclone, with the storm strengthening all the way up to landfall. Eloise weakened as it moved inland, dissipating on January 25. On January 17, Joshua entered the South-West Indian Ocean basin from the Australian region basin, before dissipating two days later. On January 27, Tropical Low 10U entered the basin from the Australian region, which was classified as Tropical Depression 09. The depression never strengthened into a tropical storm and soon dissipated on the next day. Faraji formed on February 4, and became a tropical storm next day. Faraji explosively intensified to become the first Category 5-equivalent tropical cyclone (according to JTWC estimates) in the basin since Fantala in 2016, and the first Category 5-Equivalent tropical cyclone worldwide in 2021. Faraji was projected to restrengthen, and possible threaten land areas as it tracked westward towards Madagascar; however, this threat never materialized, as the storm encountered more hostile conditions and weakened instead. The storm degenerated into a remnant low on February 13, before dissipating 3 days later. Guambe formed on February 10, and became a subtropical depression two days later, while making landfall near Inhambane, Mozambique. The system remained inland until February 16, when it re-emerged into the Mozambique Channel and was designated as Tropical Disturbance 11. The disturbance then began to strengthen, becoming a tropical storm on the next day, and a tropical cyclone later three days later. Guambe peaked as a Category 2-equivalent tropical cyclone on February 19. The cyclone was forecasted to strengthen even further; however, Guambe underwent an eyewall replacement cycle and began to weaken. The storm became post-tropical on February 21 and dissipated two days later.
  • Australian region – On January 16, Tropical Low 07U intensified into Tropical Cyclone Joshua. Afterward, five more storms developed in the basin within the second part of the month: Tropical Low 08U, Tropical Cyclone Kimi, Tropical Low 10U, Tropical Low 11U, and Tropical Low 12U. Joshua moved into the South-West Indian Ocean basin on January 17. On January 21, 08U made landfall in the Western Territory of Australia, before dissipating two days later. Kimi meandered off the coast of Queensland from January 16 to 19, before dissipating offshore. 10U formed to the southeast of Christmas Island and remained over water throughout its duration. 10U exited the basin into the South-West Indian Ocean on January 27. On January 25, Tropical Low 11U formed, followed by Tropical Low 12U on January 28. 11U became Lucas and exited the basin as it peaked on February 1. Tropical Low 12U remained overland for most of its existence, moving parallel to the western coastline of Australia for 5 days, before emerging over open water on February 4. 12U never reached tropical cyclone intensity, and became extratropical on the next day. However, the storm turned back towards Australia and resumed moving parallel to the coast, before dissipating several days later. Tropical Low 13U formed on February 6, a day after 12U became extratropical, and made landfall near the North Territory–Queensland border, before dissipating on February 8. Another tropical low, 14U, formed ten days later, and lasted for five days before dissipating. Tropical Low 15U formed on February 23 and became Marian. Marian eventually proceeded to undergo rapid intensification, becoming a Category 3 severe tropical cyclone on February 28, making it the most intense cyclone of the season, as of this writing. Tropical Low 16U formed near the end of the month.
  • South Pacific – Tropical Disturbance 04F developed to the west of Port Vila, Vanuatu, on January 22. Several days later, Tropical Disturbances 05F and 06F developed near Fiji. All three systems organized into tropical depressions by January 28. 04F and 06F never developed into tropical cyclones, while 05F became Cyclone Ana. Cyclone Ana dissipated February 1, the same day that Cyclone Lucas entered the basin. Lucas became subtropical on February 3, before dissipating shortly afterward. On February 7, Tropical Disturbance 09F formed and nearly reached tropical cyclone status, before dissipating. Two weeks later, Tropical Disturbance 10F developed near Wallis and Futuna but never developed into a tropical depression.
  • South Atlantic – On February 4, a rare, fully-tropical storm was designated in the basin as 01Q by the NOAA. The storm lasted briefly before losing tropical characteristics, with the NOAA discontinuing their bulletins later that day. However, the Brazilian Navy Hydrographic Center never issued advisories on the storm.

Member of the month (edition) – LightandDark2000

LightandDark2000 joined Wikipedia as an IP editor on May 2, 2009. Although a couple of users encouraged him to make an account early on, he decided to continue editing articles from his IPs for the next few years. He registered his user account in May 2012 and spent another year on Wikipedia as an IP editor, before fully transitioning over to his account in the summer of 2013. He received an invitation to join WPTC in March 2014, which he accepted. Ever since joining WPTC, LightandDark2000 has been a regular editor on tropical cyclone articles and one of Wikipedia's most active rollbackers, putting him on the forefront in the fight against vandals and LTAs, and actively steering the WikiProject out of stagnation. He also defended WPTC from numerous vandals, including the likes of the LTAs IPhonehurricane95 and Lightning Sabre. In late 2014–early 2017, LightandDark2000 largely moved out of WPTC into MILHIST (as well as taking a 3-month WikiBreak in the fall of 2016—due to college work and stress from on-wiki hounding), before returning to WPTC in September 2017, following the devastating landfall of Hurricane Harvey in Texas. From there, LightandDark2000 regularly contributed to tropical cyclone articles, as well as articles on other storms and natural disasters, before taking a series of WikiBreaks in late 2019 through mid-2020, due to college work and real-life activities.

However, LightandDark2000 returned in July 2020, just as the extremely-active North Atlantic hurricane season got underway. By the time the last issue of The Hurricane Herald was released, LightandDark2000 had made a full return and was ramping up activity, even as WPTC was beset by a series of problems within its membership, ranging from blocks to stress-induced WikiBreaks. During this time of crisis, LightandDark2000 stepped up very quickly - first, he helped out a number of users who were struggling with personal issues on the WikiProject. Then, he joined 2018 Global FT (currently the Interim Coordinator, with Hurricane Noah and KN2731 stepping aside due to real-life commitments). From there, he conducted his first GA review, which was for Hurricane Beryl. After that, he took on a major role in the writing of the previous issue of The Hurricane Herald, which as of this writing is the biggest issue of Hurricane Herald ever published, at an excess of 50,000 bytes, as well as being the most visually-balanced Hurricane Herald issue since the first issues of Hurricane Herald (if it were to be viewed using a 1920×1080 desktop using Legacy Vector). For these reasons and his contributions to the WPTC in the past, we will finally thank LightandDark2000 for all of his contributions by rewarding him with the Member of the Month for this edition. It's quite sad that he didn't get this award since the restart of Hurricane Herald in late 2018 to this day, but now, he has the opportunity to win the award for the first time. We are hoping to see more from LightandDark2000 in the future. For example, he joined the 2021 Cyclone Cup (and also volunteered to take on the role of a judge, if necessary), a new competition for WPTC members based on the WikiCup!

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter

More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Featured Content

From January 15 to February 28 no featured article were promoted.

From the Main Page: Documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from January 15–February 28, 2021 in chronological order.

Today's Featured Article/List
Did you know...?

There are currently no featured article candidates.

Current assessment table

Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 164 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 133 A-class articles, and 1,010 good articles. There are only 71 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 415 C-class articles, 788 start-class articles, and 182 stub-class articles, with 23 lists, and 9 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project.

About the assessment scale →

Project Goals & Progress

The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.

Special thanks to David Roth, Keith Edkins, Hylian Auree and HurricaneSpin

In this section, we want to thank these first-generation WPTC members for being able to stay in here for years before 2020. They (David, Keith, Hylian and Spin) are one of greatest content creators in WPTC history, helping to build and shape WPTC for what it is now today. Without them, we don't know if WPTC would be like today. David Roth's expertise, Keith Edkins' maintenance activities, Hylian's and Spin's content creation skill helped a lot in the early days of WPTC and we hope some of us can replicate what they can do in today's WPTC.

Member of the month (Editor's Pick) – Typhoon2013

Typhoon2013 first edited Wikipedia in August 2013, and ever since joining Wikipedia, Typhoon2013 has been one of the most prolific editors in Western Pacific basin. Since last November, Typhoon2013 has been working very hard on getting tropical cyclone intensity lists of Western Pacific basin done, lending a hand in creation of named storms lists of C, P, R, and S (alongside finishing List of named storms (T) which I was unable to complete because of college), as well as finishing storm lists of Pacific typhoon seasons from 1980 to 1964. For the efforts Typhoon2013 has done leading to the publishing of this newsletter, I, MarioJump83, as one of many editors of Hurricane Herald, will be picking Typhoon2013 as the Member of the Month (Editor's Pick) and thank him for his contributions to build a bedrock foundation for the rapidly-growing Western Pacific coverage of the Wikipedia. We wish Typhoon2013 best of luck at college!

My experience here on Wikipedia - by Destroyeraa

Was planned to be published in 44th edition of Hurricane Herald, however due to some issue (and per Destroyeraa's request), I have delayed this opinion piece further into this edition. At this point, I do not want to see this opinion piece getting delayed further into May 2021 as I really, really want this OP, alongside my OP below to finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. MarioJump83!

I created my Wikipedia account on January 18, 2020. I seems so long ago. My first edit was creating my user page, and my first mainspace edit was on Hammonton, New Jersey. My first autoconformed edit was on my userpage. By then, I was editing about myself and roads. My first tropical cyclone edit was on January 30, on Tropical Storm Nestor, which got reverted. I also edited about the coronavirus epidemic before it became a worldwide pandemic. I edited List of United States tornadoes in April 2020, but got bitten on the talk page, though my love for tornadoes kept me editing pages. I also began editing numerous cyclone pages, and joined WPTC on May 19. It was sad that no one noticed that I joined, and no one welcomed me on my talk page for five months already. I submitted my first article, Tropical Storm Bertha (2020), which was accepted. I was still rather new, and mistook Chicdat as an admin. It was June already. Still, no one welcomed me. Finally, on June 5, Hurricanehink took notice of my edits and welcome me! Around the same time, I downloaded Twinkle. I found the CSD function very cool, and I admittedly didn't read WP:CSD and misused it. One month later, I met my first real vandal, which turned out to be a Force Thirteen kid who was messing around changing everything to Force Thirteen without leaving a source or an edit summary, which most people will take as vandalism. It turned out to be pretty rough, and did not end well for both of us. I was still learning at that stage, as shown here. After that, my experience here got much better. Perhaps it was the "learning-the-ropes" phase that is the hardest for all Wikipedians. I created and wrote some good articles, with my first being Hurricane Dolores, promoted on September 24. I also developed a good relationship with many of my fellow Wikipedians, including the editors/writers of this newsletter and many other newer and older users. Then came the sock block. I'll not get into much detail about that, though I will be forever indebted to the countless users who vouched for me and who welcomed me back to the community with open arms. Thank you. I am glad to be here today.~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸

My experiences of tropical cyclones and tropical cyclone editing before joining WPTC - by MarioJump83

I planned this OP way back to September 2020, but because of issues with length and college (also even stress - detailed in my previous opinion piece My stress), I decided to delay this opinion piece until now. I also intend to publish this opinion piece alongside Destroyeraa's OP above, thus pushing back the date where I can publish this opinion piece further. Thus I fully apologize for delaying this opinion piece for way too long. I was unable to spend my time on building this opinion piece because of these issues and thus getting this opinion piece complete in time. By the way, this will be the final opinion piece I will write for Hurricane Herald - I'm done with it after two opinion pieces as SMB99thx and two opinion pieces as MarioJump83. It was so much fun creating opinion pieces, but I don't want to have opinion pieces for four straight issues already since the 43rd edition! I'm still editing Hurricane Herald in the future, but not writing opinion pieces any further - ...unless you're inviting me to write an opinion piece in my user talk page, which I'll do my best to comply.

Hello, WikiProject Tropical cyclones! I want to tell you about the reasons why I liked and loved tracking tropical cyclones and my experience regarding editing tropical cyclones before I joined this WikiProject.

First of all, I have been watching tropical cyclones but on-and-off since 2012. That year, Hurricane Sandy as I remembered it got significant coverage on my country, Indonesia (Badai Sandy). That hurricane was the first tropical cyclone that I had ever known in my life (it's possible that Hurricane Katrina had significant coverage in my country, but I didn't remember anything at all about it), and without it I would never known about tropical cyclones by myself. When that hurricane was about to be finished, I visited the article about 2012 Atlantic hurricane season on Wikipedia, and it was the first article about tropical cyclones that I have ever read on Wikipedia. From that day, my interest on tropical cyclones grew but it was limited to the Atlantic hurricanes only. When 2013 started, if I'm thinking about tropical cyclones I frequently visited 2013 Atlantic hurricane season, and in particular the Seasonal summary section, which drew my eyes into when I didn't edit tropical cyclone articles yet.

In November 2013, however, as I'm becoming an uncle of one (now three), Typhoon Haiyan showed up. That typhoon which devastated the Southeast Asian brother country of Philippines caused my interest on tropical cyclones to grow outside of Atlantic hurricanes. Now I'm finally aware of what's happening in Pacific, and it was the first time that I learned that tropical cyclones are everywhere in the world, not just Atlantic. That time, I read 2013 Pacific typhoon season as well as 2013 Pacific hurricane season (I don't remember reading these kinds of articles before that). When I read about it, I also visited 2013 Atlantic hurricane season once again and I was shocked by that it wasn't active! As such, I didn't watch tropical cyclones that much for most of 2014 and 2015. Hurricane Patricia didn't convince me enough to watch tropical cyclones again. In 2016, things changed again that led me to make my first edits on tropical cyclones in Wikipedia.

Once Hurricane Matthew came and with it significant coverage on Indonesia that I have never seen since Hurricane Sandy, I finally watched tropical cyclones full-time for the first time. That hurricane was the cyclone that finally got me going for the tropical cyclones (not just the recent seasons, but the older seasons and also SHEM) and my quick-growing interest on tropical cyclones led me to find what made me uncomfortable. That led me to make my first edit on tropical cyclone-related articles in Wikipedia - which was to add Central Pacific to a navigation template about leading tropical cyclones in March 7, 2017. Later that month, I made a second edit, which was to remove a year from a link to Hurricane Omar. These additions are quite "cosmetic" (as said by ChessEric about Hurricane Michelle GA), but soon enough in the next month I found more things that made me more uncomfortable - they are legitimate vandalism. The first edit I made in that month was to revert a vandalism on Hurricane Andrew (I edited it again after that, which was to change mb to mbar). On the next day, I fixed another vandalism in 1954 Atlantic hurricane season. That isn't the end yet, as I found one more vandalism in Hurricane Dennis, and I promptly fixed them.

As I'm getting more invested on tropical cyclone articles, I've eventually heard and found out why some articles didn't have (XXXX year) in them - and it is because that they are primary topics. When I see some articles like Hurricane Linda (1997), which I thought they are primary topics (I eventually realized that they are not, and I have not requested moving these articles under WPTC banner ever since), I sought the same treatment in these kinds of articles that I thought was primary topics and thus I requested moves in many of these said articles under that thought. I believed that these requests will garner support by most of the WPTC members (which I thought will think for the same), but never did I know that these requests gained overwhelming opposes, primarily from WPTC members - and they talked to me about it. Of course, I panicked and I have to withdraw some of these nominations.

That didn't stop me from editing more WPTC articles, and I started to do these requested moves again soon after. This is probably the most successful things I have ever done through my pre-WPTC membership career in the WPTC realm. After withdrawing some of these nominations, I began to work on a split of 1940–49 Pacific typhoon seasons article by starting the discussion on one in May 14. Two weeks later, as I said before, I started requesting more of these nominations in a batch on May 27 - which was wildly successful (only one of them were failed, and that was Tropical Storm Bret of 1993). In a month after these nominations, and with the consensus for split, I finally worked on the split itself. 1940 Pacific typhoon season and 1949 Pacific typhoon season has been split from the article much more earlier, with Hurricanehink creating an article for the 1940 season in May 23, 2014 and Typhoon2013 split the 1949 section from the article in December 19, 2016. I continued what Hurricanehink and Typhoon2013 has been doing, with copying content from the original article into the respective season articles. First, I reverted them to the original before Hurricanehink merged them. Afterwards, I copied the respective sections from the original into respective articles and removed the respective sections in the original article. From the IDs, you can notice that I did this not in order. Afterwards, I moved the original article into 1941–44 Pacific typhoon seasons without moving it's talk page, which I want to admit was a mistake and made a major ramifications (I even started a RfD, which should not happen) in my attempts to get it back without getting it's talk page removed later in October 2020. Once moving the article, I created redirects for the recently moved article (which includes 1941 Pacific typhoon season, 1942 Pacific typhoon season, 1943 Pacific typhoon season, and 1944 Pacific typhoon season, all of which eventually turned into articles), and quickly changed redirects of the respective storms into the newly restored articles. It was a massive effort that day on June 27, 2017, and the experience that I never forgotten.

After that month, I returned into requesting moves once again for the third time, riding on the recent wave of successes. I requested the moves of Hurricane Norman (1978) and Hurricane Liza. Hurricane Liza move request was successful but Norman did not. By that point, the frustration from WPTC members are showing up and by the time I requested moving Typhoon Ida (1958) into Typhoon Ida, I had to be stopped. I also moved Typhoon Pamela (1976) into Typhoon Pamela without any discussion, but you know my intentions by that point, and the move was soon reverted. I had a talk with Yellow Evan regarding these actions, and I soon relented, never requested any moves ever since. I didn't do much for the rest of the year - the most notable moves are moving disambiguation pages Tropical Storm Noru and Tropical Storm Banyan into Typhoon Noru and Typhoon Banyan, respectively. Moving on to the next year, I did not do much once again. Most of the activity that year was working on the most of Tropical Storm Son-Tinh (2018) article. Keep in mind that I plan to return working on that article as a part of 2018 Global FT efforts, and that happened because KN2731 is going to take a break for most of this year.

Onto the 2019, I did something that I think planted the seeds for my future MoTM run and vast WPTC growth in 2020. Most of the activity in general involves creating links to the future articles, but I also fixed redirects for most 1930s seasons and created redirects for the rest of 1960s decade for NIO basin. I planned something greater than that, however, but because I had to use my phone and not my laptop (it was broken) I wasn't able to do so. That plan was a factor leading to me joining the WPTC in July 2020 (after I realized about the benefits of joining the WikiProjects) and I began realizing the plan as soon as I got my laptop back. What I did for the most of August 2020 and September 2020 was mostly set in stone back in the previous year, if you don't notice that. If I didn't plan it back in the day, I don't think I would ever got that MoTM (it would have been Destroyeraa most likely).

That was a story. It is a long story. It took me pains to get myself established in WPTC, but now here I am. If anyone could have invited me back in the year 2018, I would have rejected it like CyclonicallyDeranged, whom I believe has been driven out of Wikipedia. But coming to this year, I realized the benefits of joining the WikiProjects and now, as said by Hurricanehink, I became a vital editor for WPTC.

Another Barnstar

The Tornado Barnstar
Appreciate your hard work on all those tornado tables. Zonafan39 (talk) 17:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
@Zonafan39: Thanks bro!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Two barnstars for you!

The Tornado Barnstar
It appears that you are no longer as active this year, but you deserve this barnstar for your work at elevating the WikiProject Severe Weather. You deserve the v2.0 of this barnstar! MarioJump83! 02:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
The Meteorology Barnstar
Thank you so much for your efforts at WPSW, WPTC and WPNTS. MarioJump83! 02:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
@MarioJump83: Thanks! The removal of the Tornado History Project slowed down the progress I had with making articles, but I'm improving the damage info for other articles right now.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 15:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Careless Reverting

You need to cop the attitude right now. I am getting sick and tired of you thinking you run this place and trying to change everything to have it your way. You added information that was nowhere to be found in the sources which followed that information, so I removed the unsourced information. If you want to add something, you need to cite a reliable source. Do not get an attitude with me in edit summaries. I will not put up with such a childish way of behavior. United States Man (talk) 17:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@LightandDark2000, TornadoLGS, and Cyclonebiskit:@United States Man: I do not see how I was childish. I POINTED OUT where the information was IN THE SOURCE! READ IT! If anything, YOU are being bossy and trying boss everyone around by acting like a rule nazi. I put in the information based on what I find and THAT'S IT. Period. Don't come to me saying I'm being childish when YOU were trying to remove an ongoing outbreak from the main tornado page yesterday claiming its "NOTNEWS." That's ignornant. Read the source, look up the information, and THEN come back to me. I'm not going to speak about this ridiculousness again. I should be the one talking to YOU about careless reverting, but I didn't. I'm NOT a newbie anymore and I know the rules, so LEAVE ME ALONE.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I'll comment here once more the same thing I said at Talk:Tornadoes of 2021: "You cannot add information without a valid reliable source. If you do not realize that by now I do not know what to tell you. Just because you saw it in a video doesn't mean you can add it here." That's all I've got to say on the matter. United States Man (talk) 00:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Since I was pinged here, the SPC storm report do not explicitly say that two large tornadoes were on the ground simultaneously. Even from those reports, it is not entirely clear whether it was one large tornado with satellites or a tornado family.
Also, @United States Man: neither of you are being very civil. Please cool it down. TornadoLGS (talk) 00:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

2nd issue of The Frozen Times!

Volume II, Issue 2, March 15, 2021
←(Previous issues) 1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 →


The Frozen Times

The Frozen Times is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Non-tropical storms. The newsletter aims to summarize recent developments and activities in the WikiProject, in addition to recent extratropical cyclone activity on a global scale. The Frozen Times has been running since its revival in March 2021, although the first issue was published in February 2008. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Frozen Times covers all project-related events from February 2008–March 14, 2021. This edition's authors and editors are MarioJump83, HurricaneCovid, Shift674, and LightandDark2000. Past editions can be viewed here.

WikiProject Non-tropical storms: News and Developments

  • On the heels of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones revival from 2018–2020, MarioJump83 and LightandDark2000 took the initiative to formally revive this WikiProject on January 15, 2021. Not long afterward, on February 7, 2021, the WikiProject community came to the decision to revive the project newsletter as well. We decided to model the entire WikiProject after WPTC, following a similar format and creating similar project pages for use on WPNTS, since the two projects are closely tied. There was also general agreement among the active editors on WPNTS to coordinate work with WPTC, given the numerous overlaps between the two WikiProjects.
  • On February 4, 2021, the WPTC and WPNTS communities came together to include WPNTS articles in WPTC's annual competition, the Cyclone Cup, based on a suggestion from HurricaneCovid. The decision was made as a result of agreement between editors over how non-tropical storms (nor'easters, European windstorms, etc.) are cyclones too, and thus merit inclusion as well. WPNTS editors are now allowed and encouraged to participate in the Cyclone Cup, regardless of whether those editors are a part of WPTC or not. Currently, a number of WPNTS users are participating in the Cup, and we hope you will too!
  • On February 8, 2021, MarioJump83 introduced our project barnstar, which was accordingly named The Extra-Tropical Cyclone Barnstar. It was named based on a pun in which the "Tropical" word in The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar became more 'tropical', so much that it turned The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar to brown. (Hence the name "Extra-Tropical" and the brown cyclone icon). Since there were no barnstars that were shaped like a comma in the Meteorology barnstars category, we had to take one which is available.
  • On February 24, 2021, we came to the decision to model the project newsletter after the WPTC newsletter, The Hurricane Herald. The first step of that was to give our newsletter a name. Agreement was reached on February 24 to use LightandDark2000's suggested name, The Frozen Times, as the name of the WPNTS newsletter. HurricaneCovid assisted in the creation of the logo for the newsletter, and MarioJump83 aided the endeavor as well.
  • On March 9, 2021, HurricaneCovid first introduced the idea of modeling North American winter articles after tropical cyclone season articles. While a few editors rejected the idea at first, by the next day most users had shown their support for it and the plan was implemented. The improvements were done over a period of 3 days, mainly by HurricaneCovid and MarioProtIV, and involved the creation or modification of several templates, including a timeline, some new infoboxes, and a button template. The implementation of these new templates has only been completed in one season article, and is still unfinished in most.

New articles since the last newsletter

  • The number of new articles since the last issue are innumerable. Thus, we will not be able to list them all here.

New GAs since the last newsletter

Member of The Edition

Featured members – MarioProtIV and HurricaneCovid

MarioProtIV joined Wikipedia in 2014, although his activity really ramped up in late 2015. He formally joined this WikiProject in early February 2021, just after its revival. Since and before formally joining, he has been one of the most prolific editors in non-tropical storm articles, particularly being a major part of getting 2020–21 North American winter to greater quality and taking the initiative to constantly update the article, as well as other separate winter storm articles. He has also participated in and started several discussions within WPNTS, further influencing the quality of current event articles in the WikiProject. We would like to thank him for his outstanding work, and therefore jointly give him the Member of The Edition award.

HurricaneCovid joined Wikipedia in March 2020, though he began working with weather-related articles and joined WPTC in November. He joined WPNTS in January 2021, just before its revival, although he had begun actively editing extratropical cyclone articles in December 2020. He has been doing constant work on 2020–21 North American winter throughout the North American winter season so far. He has helped write much of the article, with aid from MarioProtIV, as well as numerous other articles for the most major storms. He was present throughout the barrage of winter storms and the Arctic air outbreak in North America, in mid-February, creating most of the articles for storms in that period. He also helped with the revival of the WikiProject, and it was partially his idea to model this newsletter after The Hurricane Herald. For his consistent work to WPNTS, we are jointly giving him the Member of The Edition award for this issue.

Project revivers – LightandDark2000 and MarioJump83

LightandDark2000 joined Wikipedia as an IP editor in May 2009, although he didn't register an user account until 3 years later, in May 2012. He became active on WPTC and WPNTS in 2013, formally joining the projects in 2014 and 2016, respectively. He is one of the most-senior active members on WPNTS, as most of the active participants joined in 2020 or 2021. Soon after formally joining, he largely stopped editing Wikipedia on storm-related articles, turning his attention to MILHIST from 2014–2017, and later took numerous WikiBreaks in 2016 and in 2019–2020, due to real-life activities and college. However, he began making a return to Wikipedia in July 2020, and since then, he has made a full return. In December 2020, he returned to WPNTS, with the start of the climatological winter in North America. He became a main part of the revival and resurrection of WPNTS from January–February 2021, assisting in efforts to revamp the project and helping to coordinate it. During this time, he continued his work on WPNTS articles, including during a historic outbreak of cold temperatures and a barrage of back-to-back winter storms in North America, in February. For his aid in the revival of this WikiProject, and his work on WPNTS articles, we are jointly giving him a modification of the MoTE award.

MarioJump83 first joined Wikipedia in 2013 as SMB99thx, although they first began working with storm-related articles in August 2020. They joined WPNTS in November 2020, quickly becoming the main coordinator and most active user in terms of getting the project restarted. They did outstanding work in terms of modeling the project after WPTC, with the aid of LightandDark2000, and got the project's act together. They took the initiative to formally restart the project in January 2021, and continued work restoring, improving, and creating project pages, including this newsletter. LightandDark2000 was along every step of the way, and helped out MarioJump83 create and improve project pages, modeling after WPTC. We would like to thank their outstanding work in getting the WikiProject together, and are thus jointly giving them a version of the MoTE award.

For the time being, there will be no user nominations, as this WikiProject is currently relatively small; however, once we gain enough participants, we will begin nominating members for MoTE.

Storms of The Edition over the last five newsletters
Period Storm
February 2008–March 14, 2021 February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm (Winter Storm Uri)
December 2007–February 2008 January 2008 North American storm complex

Storm of The Edition – February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm (Winter Storm Uri)

The February 13–17, 2021 North American winter storm, also referred to as Winter Storm Uri, was a strong and destructive winter storm that affected areas from the West Coast of the United States, through the Deep South and Northern Mexico, to the Northeast and Eastern Canada. The second of three major winter storms to affect the continent within the month, the system originated as a powerful low-pressure area in the Pacific and came ashore as a frontal system on February 13. The system then dived southward along a trough in the polar jet stream, while also strengthening, and began producing snowfall in the Deep South. The storm system then began expanding in terms of size, and the main low spawned a secondary low in the Gulf of Mexico, off the coast of Florida on February 15. As the storm grew more organized, it spawned another low pressure center to the north on February 16, which quickly became the main low-pressure center. When the system exited the continent early on February 17, almost 75% of the continental U.S. was covered in snow, which almost broke a record. The newest low moved up the coast of Nova Scotia, beginning to strengthen faster along the way. It then began to quickly intensify, while approaching landfall on Newfoundland, reaching a central pressure of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) by 12:00 UTC on that day. The system then began meandering across the Atlantic, while proceeding to strengthen further, reaching a peak intensity of 960 millibars (28 inHg) on February 19. Afterward, the storm then began weakening rapidly, dissipating southwest of Greenland on February 24.

The storm system resulted in over 170 million Americans being placed under winter weather alerts, reaching as far south as Galveston, Texas. The swath of snow and ice it produced stretched from Washington to Maine. It ranked as a Category 3 winter storm on the Regional Snowfall Index (RSI) scale, and it became the second of three Category 3+ winter storms to affect North America in February 2021. The system caused over 9.9 million power outages, with 5.2 million in the U.S. and 4.7 million in Mexico, making it the worst blackout event recorded in North America since the Northeast blackout of 2003. The hardest hit area by both the severe winter weather and long-term power outages was Texas, with the 2021 Texas power crisis taking place due to the storm. Some long-term power outages in areas of the Deep South lasted over one week long. It also brought destructive severe weather to parts of the Southeastern U.S., spawning five tornadoes, including an EF2 and a high-end EF3 tornado. In total, the storm resulted in at least 136 fatalities, with 124 in the U.S. and 12 in Mexico, making it the deadliest winter storm in decades. Damage from this system is estimated to cost at least $195 billion (2021 USD), making it the costliest winter storm on record, as well as one of the costliest natural disasters in the modern era.

Other significant storms

  • Post-Tropical Cyclone Zeta – The post-tropical remnants of Hurricane Zeta began interacting with another storm system on October 29, 2020, as rain overspread the Eastern U.S. However, as a cold front came through overnight allowing a blast of colder air, precipitation began switching over to snow in parts of New England. By the next day, the remnants of Zeta passed south of New England and moved out into the Atlantic, strengthening on the way. Zeta became the first tropical cyclone to produce accumulating snowfall as an extratropical storm since Hurricane Sandy, resulting in several thousand power outages in New England and up to 6.5 in (17 cm) of snow.
  • December 15–17, 2020 nor'easter (Winter Storm Gail) – The December 15–17, 2020 nor'easter, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Gail, the only Category 2 winter storm on the RSI scale in December, formed from a disorganized low pressure in the Southern Plains on December 14. The low pressure began organizing the next day, meandering east before it came offshore of the East Coast on December 16. It then rapidly intensified, reaching a peak intensity of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) off the New England coast on December 17. The system then moved into the Atlantic, weakening slowly until dissipation on December 19. The nor'easter produced significant snowfall up to 15 in (38 cm) along the I-95 corridor, with over 3 ft (36 in) in parts of the interior Northeast. In total, it caused 7 fatalities and over 56,000 power outages. The nor'easter is estimated to have caused at least $125 million (2021 USD) in damages.
  • Storm Filomena – Storm Filomena, the eighth named storm of the 2020–21 European windstorm season, formed over the Atlantic near the Canary Islands on January 7, 2021. It then slowly meandered northeastward, crossing the Iberian Peninsula over the next few days, producing heavy snowfall on the way. The storm then accelerated east, reaching a peak intensity of 995 millibars (29.4 inHg) and crossing Italy and Greece from January 11–13. Filomena then began rapidly weakening, and dissipated in interior Europe on January 15. It was significant because of unusually heavy snow up to 24 in (61 cm) in the Iberian Peninsula, which caused a total of 5 fatalities. Filomena is estimated to have caused at least $2.2 billion (2021 USD) in damage.
  • January 31 – February 3, 2021 nor'easter (Winter Storm Orlena) – The January 31 – February 3, 2021 nor'easter, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Orlena, the first of three Category 3+ winter storms in February 2021, formed as a powerful low pressure off the Pacific coast on January 25. The slow-moving low pressure meandered off the U.S. West Coast for several days, causing an atmospheric river event and producing heavy rain and snow. On January 30, the weakening low pressure crossed the Rockies and moved into the Midwest, producing a second low pressure off the North Carolina coast on January 31. The second low slowly meandered up the East Coast from February 1–4, reaching a peak intensity of 985 millibars (29.1 inHg) on February 3. The system then accelerated into the Atlantic, weakening and dissipating on February 5. The system caused up to 100 in (250 cm) of snow in the Sierra Nevada and 18–24 in (46–61 cm) in both the Boston and New York City metro areas. In total, it caused 7 fatalities and resulted in over 575,000 power outages. The system is estimated to have caused at least $100 million (2021 USD) in damages.
  • February 15–20, 2021 North American winter storm (Winter Storm Viola) – The February 15–20, 2021 North American winter storm, also unofficially referred to as Winter Storm Viola, the last of three Category 3+ winter storms in February 2021, formed on February 14 as a strong low pressure in the Pacific. The next day, the weakening low came ashore in the West Coast and the main low spawned several other low pressures on February 15, connected by a series of fronts. One of the low pressures to the south quickly took over, moving east over the next few days. It then spawned another low pressure to the east, which moved up the East Coast from February 18–19, becoming a nor'easter. The low reached an initial peak of 990 mb (29 inHg) as it exited the coast on February 19. The system then bombed out, reaching a peak intensity of 952 millibars (28.1 inHg) on February 22. It then slowly began to weaken, while moving northeastward, and dissipating on February 26. The storm brought a second round of snow and ice to the Deep South just days after another destructive storm came through the same areas. In total, the storm resulted in at least 29 fatalities and caused over 4 million power outages. The system is likely to have caused approximately $1 billion (2021 USD) in damage.

New WikiProject members

More information can be found here. The following list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the last issue.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the tasks or to-do lists towards the bottom of the newsletter for tasks that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Note that most of the members listed here are inactive now, with the majority of them moved having been moved into the inactive list.

Current assessment table

Assessments are valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.

As of this issue, there are 8 featured articles and 1 featured list. There are 21 good articles, but only 1 A-class article, perhaps because most articles of that quality already passed an FA review. There are 53 B-class articles, 110 C-class articles, 172 start-class articles, and 52 stub-class articles, with 14 lists. These figures mean that roughly one-fifth of the project is rated B-class or better. Tropical Storm Rolf was the 20th GA in the project.

About the assessment scale →

Project Goals & Progress

The following is the current progress on the two milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. Updates on the following goals can also be found on the project home page.

WikiProject tasks

Featured article reviews

Requested moves

Why I revived this WikiProject, by MarioJump83

Since this is the first issue of The Frozen Times since the revival of WPNTS, I thought we should have an opinion piece detailing the reasons based on which the revival took place. And the project member who would know these reasons the best would be none other than the main resurrector of the WikiProject, MarioJump83! HurricaneCovid (contribs)

Hello, WikiProject Non-tropical storms! I am the one who first took the initiative of this WikiProject's revival. While most of my work here is mostly related to maintenance work and some coordinating before resigning after the revival of this newsletter (I would like to say that LightandDark2000 is the coordinator of the project now given he is the only active member to join before 2020), there are reasons why I took the initiative to revive the project.

Firstly, WPTC members, for some reason that was unclear to me, began joining the project in droves beginning in late 2020 and continuing into 2021. This surprised me since normally, people don't join defunct WikiProjects in large numbers. Secondly, many WPTC members, many of them based in either the United States or Europe, continue to edit extratropical cyclone articles, even when climatological winter ends in the Northern Hemisphere. This suggests that there is a space for WPNTS to spring up once again. Third and lastly, WPNTS-covered articles are quite active for a defunct WikiProject. I honestly think that this WikiProject shouldn't have been considered defunct in the first place.

Ultimately, these reasons drove me to revive the WikiProject on the heels of Wikipedia's 20th anniversary on January 15, 2021. It's short, but it's what I can say for the reasons why I came to the decision to revive this WikiProject. I hope this WikiProject lasts for a long time, even when I'm not present as part of it. MarioJump83!


Refresh links from the NHC are acceptable if they are archived. Please pay attention before removing stuff like do you on Hurricane Hanna next time.DachshundLover82 (talk) 20:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@DachshundLover82: No they are not because the refresh link updates with EVERY advisory, meaning that the info has no valid source under that link. This is problem that multiple people have been trying to address. Do NOT archive those links. They are not good references to use.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@ChessEric:, web archives save that info which is the same info used in the NHC archive. If it is updated in time it will be that certain update, that is the only time they are allowed.DachshundLover82 (talk)

@ChessEric: and by adressing you mean coming onto people talk pages and leaving the dramatic and rude message like, "Please for lords sake STOP using the archive thing!!!" DachshundLover82 (talk) 02:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@MarioProtIV, LightandDark2000, Jasper Deng, and Cyclonebiskit: @DachshundLover82: (1) It doesn't matter. The TCR is enough. (2) When did I say a rude comment on ANYONE'S talk page?ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

This can be considered a rude tone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/981669001 plus I saw you make a similar comment to the example above on an past edit summary. If you want things to change, come at a different approach instead of acting like it’s planet Earth’s end.DachshundLover82 (talk) 03:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@DachshundLover82: (1) I expressed myself in a assertive, but non-aggressive tone that was not even directed at you. (2) Edit summary is not directed at anyone either.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 03:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

(1) If it wasn’t directed at me, why was it on my talk page? All messages on talk pages should be directed at the people that are being messaged. (2) Regardless of who or what edit summaries are targeted at, you should still not act like it’s the end if the world. (3) I find it hard to believe that was supposed to be assertive, you sounded more like a character on an UniMás television show.DachshundLover82 (talk) 01:48, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@DachshundLover82: I'm not having this conversation with you anymore. I was passionate when I spoke and it was on your talk page, but I was making a general statement about having to change out the refresh link, which I had to REPEATEDLY throughout the hurricane season. It wasn't just you. Your interpretation of what I said about it in the edit summary is what your interpretation for it, And before you come at me about being a character from a channel I don't even watch, ask other users like Destroyeraa about using the refresh link and they will say the same thing. I will not apologize for my actions because I did nothing wrong. Period. I'm not talking about this anymore.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@DachshundLover82: Why should we rely on web archive alone when the NHC has a much better archive with the permanent links? It serves no purpose but to make the reader experience less convenient. After all, each permanent link leads to just one advisory whereas all the advisories share the refresh link. Thus the refresh link is almost useless to the reader who might want to look at exactly how the NHC website shows it. That’s not to say we shouldn’t archive, but web archiving need not be the only way.

The TCR won’t cover everything the advisories do even though it covers the majority—this is especially the case when we want to compare operational and post-analysis decisions. In that case, we should always use a permanent advisory link.—Jasper Deng (talk) 03:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

ChessEric, you also could have been far less aggressive on this talk page. WP:CIVIL applies to everyone, including DaschundLover82. Jasper Deng (talk) 03:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jasper Deng: I will take that into account, although I do want to point out that that comment was made 5 months ago when I was still learning about how to have productive conversations on talk pages.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@DachshundLover82: For the record, we use archive links only when the website does not manually archive the advisories or bulletins. This usually happens for the JTWC, the IMD, and the BoM. For the NHC, this means that we don't use web archives, because the NHC naturally archives their advisories. Honestly, they're not hard to find, either. For an active storm, look above the graphics to where the "archive" link is for that storm. And on the NHC's site, they are all filed under Archives > Tropical Cyclone Advisories. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:30, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi ChessEric, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! ~Swarm~ {sting} 02:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Tornado Years 1940-1946

I'm finding myself less time to put in info for the articles. Still I've checked out Grazulis' Significant Tornadoes book from the library, and used it, so far, start the articles for the Tornado Years in the 1940s. I'll try help out when I can with what little time I have free.--Halls4521 (talk) 23:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@Halls4521: I'm in the same boat so don't worry about. ANY contribution is helpful. Thanks for letting me know.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
I have the book as well, so I can pitch in there. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
@TornadoLGS: Thanks bro!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

A new draft you might be interested in

Hey ChessEric. I started Draft:Tornado outbreak of March 25, 2021 and thought you might be interested in it. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elijahandskip: Thanks!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Tornado outbreak sequence

"A tornado outbreak sequence, or tornado outbreak day sequence, sometimes referred to as an extended tornado outbreak, is a period of continuous or nearly continuous high tornado activity consisting of a series of tornado outbreaks over multiple days with no or very few days lacking tornado outbreaks."

This was not an extended outbreak. The other user was confused when that was moved to a sequence. We have plenty of articles on outbreaks of similar length that are not sequences. United States Man (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@United States Man: Then tell CapeVerdeWave that. Don't tell me. I'm going by what he/she said.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't have to. We are the ones editing it. You need to decide that for yourself, not going by what someone else says. You are getting the wrong idea based on someone else being wrong. And automatically assuming I am wrong, which I don't appreciate. I am going to move it back to the original title; if you think it needs to be changed you can start a discussion. United States Man (talk) 18:19, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@United States Man: I gotcha. Thanks for letting me know. By the way, random question, but what part of Tennessee are you from/live in?ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
I think the whole week leading up to that was considered a sequence (however it was very dominated by the Palm Sunday outbreak). Unless all those other days preceding are added in, it would be misleading to have the last couple days of the outbreak as a sequence.
I am from Middle Tennessee between Nashville and Knoxville. United States Man (talk) 19:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@United States Man: Cool. My parents used to live in Tennessee when they were in the military before I was born so I just wondering.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Fort Campbell? United States Man (talk) 19:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Yep.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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