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- the content you removed included statements made by individuals. can i make changes to statement made by someone?? Bonadart (talk) 03:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- also these are the awards given out i can't make changes to the specification for the awards Bonadart (talk) 03:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Everything you add to Wikipedia needs to be written in your own words. If you can't figure out a way to do that, don't add it.Short quotations are allowed. But it did not make sense for me to leave in the quotations when all the surrounding prose had to be removed. — Diannaa (talk) 12:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
May 2024
[edit]Your recent editing history at Srikanth (film) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 05:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop! Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- please kindly visit the below 2 links, ndtv link talks of name change and indianexpess link says clearly shows where maker says 'i cant compete with shahrukh khan'
- https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/srikanth-trailer-rajkummar-rao-visually-challenged-industrialist-biopic-watch-9260386/
- https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/rajkummar-raos-sri-now-titled-as-srikanth-aa-raha-hai-sabki-aankhein-kholne-release-date-out-5339905 Bonadart (talk) 07:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- What part of the WP:LEAD being the summary of the most important points in the article do you not understand? Once again, I ask you, why is a random averted clash among the most notable aspects of this film? And that's me not even considering the numerous grammatical and WP:MOS issues in your edit. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- 1. this is small budget movie after avoid clash with big film it was daeleyed to march but eventually released on may 10, even if you dont think its worthy enough why is that you are treating name change as crap, the link clearly shows name change, its a big issue for any film and also tageline is important and visible in the film poster itself, kindly give it a thought. Bonadart (talk) 07:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- What part of the WP:LEAD being the summary of the most important points in the article do you not understand? Once again, I ask you, why is a random averted clash among the most notable aspects of this film? And that's me not even considering the numerous grammatical and WP:MOS issues in your edit. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop! Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Please use Articles for Creation, your recent article was very poorly written
[edit]Hi there. I just came across your recent article, which was about a very interesting and inspiring woman. Unfortunately, you published it directly into the encyclopedia in a very poor state, with many issues. I corrected some of these issues, but would encourage you to learn more about the English Wikipedia's policies if you plan to continue contributing here.
In addition to lacking proper references for most of the statements in this article, many sentences were completely inappropriate for an encyclopedia, sounding more like a promotional biography. Additionally, you have been overlinking to pages which have no reason to connect, and leaving gaps in the flow of the article. You even had two section headings which had no content in them- this is fine for a draft but completely ridiculous in article space.
Please consider submitting your drafts for review through the Articles for Creation process moving forward, as they are likely to get deleted in the future rather than have someone try to clean them up for you as I did. For this particular article, since it's already been published, I encourage you to find more sources to reference where I've marked "citation needed" tags, to bring this article up to a basic level required by en.wiki. Definitely *do not* continue to add information without citing sources, or creating section headers with no content. Chiselinccc (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- the 2 sections sections were as per my planning but due to unwarranted reasons i couldnt complete sections Bonadart (talk) 03:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Rajalakshmi S.J moved to draftspace
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June 2024
[edit]Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your contributions to article Mr. & Mrs. Mahi did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. It is always better to wait for websites like bollywoodhungama.com to update the boxoffice numbers. You can also add a reliable source from WP:ICTFSOURCES list with updated boxoffice number. RangersRus (talk) 18:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- what if bollywoodhungama doesnt show BO of Mr and Mrs Mahi anymore. The figure shown was from Times of India, surely a behemoth like that wont cook up figures or quote unreliable sources, kindly give it a thought. Bonadart (talk) 04:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- If Bollywood Hungama has no updated numbers within a week then you can use any reliable source that has the new numbers available. This source from Times Of India that you used shows boxoffice total collection stands at 34.77 (nett?, gross? India? Worldwide?). We need a total gross as specified by bollywood hungama. We can not use self made calculations to make the total gross using the numbers in times of India. If you have source that shows total gross that surpass bollywood hungama, please do welcome it. Viewers will look at the source for matching gross numbers shown in infobox.RangersRus (talk) 12:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
[edit]Hi Bonadart. Thank you for your work on De De Pyaar De 2. Another editor, Rydex64, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:
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- hi Rydex/Rydex64 thanks for the appreciation, i have created many pages previously but this is first appreciation. Bonadart (talk) 16:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Mor Chhainha Bhuinya (July 3)
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- hi robert the one in the draft (Mor Chhainha Bhuinya) was not my creation, i just tried to improve it to the best of capability, but somehow i wasnt satified bcoz the tone was simply not good and many other issues. Then i decided to completely change it, after i changed it, i thought it was better to create a wiki on my own, so i created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mor_Chhainha_Bhuinya, (you saw it) has turned out to be way better than the previous versions. You may think some sources are in hindi and some are in english so may be not reliable. If we create 2 separate one (hindi and english using respective language sources) then both will be incomplete. So it is better to create 1 single complete wiki. Also do note as presented in the wiki, nobody believed in the movie and none thought it would work, so there are very few independent sources available on the movie (1st movie in 30 yrs in this language, so virtually no coverage). Ofcourse now movies in this language (chhattisgarhi) get wide coverage even the sequel to this movie directed by same director has got way better coverage and i plan to create a page on that too later. I hope i have answered your querries. By the way if you can please help remove the one in draft (Draft:Mor Chhainha Bhuinya)). Thanks Bonadart (talk) 16:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
IRIS Bandar Abbas (421) moved to draftspace
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Naming of ship articles
[edit]Please read WP:NC-SHIPS on how to name ship class and ship articles. Thank you. Llammakey (talk) 18:10, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Llammakey (talk) for pointing it it out, i have done several ship class and ship articles previously, may be this time i missed out on some points mostly i guess in the info box section. will try to improve on them thanks. Bonadart (talk) 08:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Llammakey (talk) for correct the 2 ship class infobox but unfortunately seems you mixed up shahid suleimani class corvett and the shahid suleimani ship, both are same, if willing you can correct it, if not i will do it, once again thanks. Bonadart (talk) 08:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- hi Llammakey i corrected the mix up Bonadart (talk) 08:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
[edit]Hello, I'm Charliehdb. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Bad Newz (film), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Charliehdb (talk) 11:37, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- hi Charliehdb. first thing i aint a beginner, regarding the content involving 'colors cineplex' problem is only '/republic bharat' source is available. unfortunately its being shown as unreliable, i cant find any other notable source. i kept the content bcoz its a fact, if and when any notable reliable source is found it can be added later. thanks btw for pointing it out Bonadart (talk) 14:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- hi Charliehdb
- i am asking a opinion from you, in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katrina_Kaif the section 'Early life and family' & 'Personal life' have been kept separate by an un related topic of 'career'. Logically both 'Early life and family' & 'Personal life' should be together followed by 'career', and so i merged both of them, but another editor 'krimuk' reverted it saying start a discussion in talk page, i did that. but i request you to give your honest opinion whether 'Early life and family' & 'Personal life' should be separate or together irrespective of discussion. I have not seen such thing in any page before. Somewhat similar thing has also been done in her husbands page. kindly give your opinion on these. Bonadart (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Nomination of Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 for deletion
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Deletion discussion about Mor Chhainha Bhuinya
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Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SafariScribe:.
- hi kindly note 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' is the most well structured page on the film unlike previous attempts. local media barely covers the local film industry despite fact that people are crazy about Chhattisgarhi language film. YouTube has lot of info but its not accepted here. This film has acquired cult status, and left Bollywood films like 'Mohabatein' 'Midsion Kashmir' upon its release. As such a film that gave birth to an entire industry on its own deserves a mention and place in wikipedia.
- btw i have a question regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katrina_Kaif here 'Early life and family' and 'Personal life' have been separated by 'career' section, which i think doesnt make sense. As per me both 'Early life and family' and 'Personal life' should be together. I tried to make edit but another editor says we need to have discussion on her talk page. Even her husbands page has simnilar issue. I am asking for your opinion on this.
- Thanks
- Bonadart (talk) 07:54, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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September 2024
[edit]Hello, I'm CNMall41. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. CNMall41 (talk) 17:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- hi CNMall41 (talk) i checked i can confirm once again that 'News18 India by Network18 Group' has a 'green tick' meaning its legit and once again 'times of india' is marked 'no conconsensus', Bonadart (talk) 17:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- See my reply here. Also, let's keep the discussion about your conduct here and discussion about the referencing on the page. That way there is no confusion if it needs escalated. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3 moved to draftspace
[edit]Thanks for your contributions to Bhool Bhulaiyaa 3. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because Per this discussion which you were pinged to yet haven't replied. Also looking at the new accounts and the SPA who just started editing again for the purpose of this page it seems there is an interest being pushed from outside Wikipedia. The sourcing does not show notability and contains WP:FAKEREFs. . I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. CNMall41 (talk) 19:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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120 Bahadur moved to draftspace
[edit]Thanks for your contributions to 120 Bahadur. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because Scheduled for release in a year, just started filming, sources are NEWSORGINDIA or otherwise unreliable (most based on announcement from filmmaker - churnalism).. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. CNMall41 (talk) 19:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
October 2024
[edit]Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Mor Chhainha Bhuinya, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Despite previous warnings, you are still adding unreliable sources. CNMall41 (talk) 19:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- hi CNMall41 (talk) i have no intention to spark a quarelling contest or arguments, i am an experienced person having created over 150 wiki pages till date since joining it in 2008. I have no intention to to go on a edit war and would like to see you do the same. I have nothing else to say to or do. Bonadart (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would not have replied but you pinged me. I do not edit war, I simply revert what is not policy-based. Your page creation history has nothing to do with your current conduct. Do as you will and if you prefer I will not leave notices like the one above. However, I will need to go to ANI if it continues. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:22, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Metro... In Dino (2024). Based on previous warnings, and even the polite request to stop, you continue to add unreliable sources. Unfortunately, I will need to take the conduct to ANI should it continue. I am not sure what else to do at this point. CNMall41 (talk) 19:07, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- that poster was a genuine mistake i wasn't aware of and its evident that even you didn't know that otherwise you would have corrected me on that Bonadart (talk) 04:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- ??? What poster? Follow the link. You continue to add unreliable sources as I pointed out in the warning below. It is getting tiring trying to lead you without going to WP:ANI. At this point, I have no choice should you choose to continue. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- that imdb link was changed after better source was found Bonadart (talk) 04:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Again, again, again.......follow the link in the warning above. You added this and since that time have added more. I'm done. It is clearly a WP:CIR issue. Do as you will but I have a feeling this will be at ANI soon as it is a huge waste of editor's time. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:22, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- that imdb link was changed after better source was found Bonadart (talk) 04:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- ??? What poster? Follow the link. You continue to add unreliable sources as I pointed out in the warning below. It is getting tiring trying to lead you without going to WP:ANI. At this point, I have no choice should you choose to continue. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of 120 Bahadur for deletion
[edit]The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/120 Bahadur until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.CNMall41 (talk) 02:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Metro... In Dino (2024)
[edit]I am unsure of what to do at this point. Despite previous discussion about introducing unreliable sources on this and other pages, and tagging the page instead of blanketly removing the sources, you continue to use them. Can you please stop using references that are unreliable under WP:NEWSORGINDIA? CNMall41 (talk) 18:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
120 Bahadur moved to draftspace
[edit]Thanks for your contributions to 120 Bahadur. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because of the result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/120 Bahadur. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Owen× ☎ 20:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- thanks it is not deleted, will include more as info is available and then bring to mainspace
- Bonadart (talk) 07:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would advise using AfC as opposed to just bringing it to the mainspace. Doing so gives the appearance that the AfD process is being circumvented. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. Owen× ☎ 21:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would advise using AfC as opposed to just bringing it to the mainspace. Doing so gives the appearance that the AfD process is being circumvented. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)