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I was wondering if you are going to do these two lists in the next month, since I am trying to get featured topics, and would appreciate it if this goes faster. Thanks and happy holidays. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards on 09:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
About the Iowa Re-release
The only source I can find is discogs.com and I'm not sure if that's valid or not. Even if it were a valid source, I can't help out much with this, as my copy is an original. Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
You're replacing a good photo depicting Forbes the way it looked for most of its existence, whith a grainy, ground level, not very representative photo. How do you figure that's an improvement? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I see you've bought into the uglier-is-better philosophy espoused by the deletionists. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
One thing that bugs me about that park is the lack of illustrations. I find it hard to believe that various teams in various sports played there for nearly 30 years without there being even one photograph, or drawing, or at least something. My guess is that they can be had, but no one has bothered to research it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- It occurs to me that the University of Pittsburgh might have something, as they played their early games at Recreation Park, didn't they? Without giving too much away here, do you live close enough to Pittsburgh that a trip to their library is possible sometime, or to the historical society, or someplace? I was thinking abotu Boston's Congress Street Grounds, where some history was made in the early 90s, and the only known photo of it is an unhelpful exterior shot. But that park only existed for a few years, not 3 decades. I would suspect the Pittsburgh newspapers might have had some illustrations. That would be tedious work, of course. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I once found a photo in the Chicago Historical Society that was labeled "Wrigley Field" when it was clearly South Side Park, and I told them about it. It had even found it's way into a book somewhere, which is probably what alerted me to it. Lots of times an institution like that doesn't really know what it has until citizens start looking through things. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
For you
Have a star... you deserve it! KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 00:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The Running Man Barnstar | ||
This is for putting up with all my crap at the FL nom, and in more general terms, for your work on Pittsburgh-sports-related article. Cheers! KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 00:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
Question on player stats
I'm unsure how exactly to do this. Regarding Phillipe Boucher and Mathieu Garon, I'm inclined to feel that the stats on the 08-09 page should just be there stats with the Pens. But I guess the Pens site posts their total stats. If we wanted to use just their stats in Pittsburgh, we would have to find a different source. hockeydb has the split except for +/-, but I'm not sure if it's sufficiently reliable in GA/FA standards. Do you know of any other source for the stats, and do you have any opinion? Grsz11 04:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- NHL.com has split stats. I bit of an inconvience having to do those two separate when updating stats, but whatever. I don't recall having this issue last year with Hossa and Dupuis. I guess the Pens just decided to do it differently this year. Go figure. Grsz11 17:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Terrible Towel
What is the reason you changed the corrections that I made to the Terrible Towel page? The corrections that I made accurately describe the Towel. The first commercially sold TT by Gimbel's department Store, who had the exclusive rights to market and sell the Towel did not have any reference to Myron Cope. The Towel simply had the logo imprinted upon it. It was available in Gold (not the yellow like today) with black lettering and black with gold lettering. "Myron Cope's Official" and "A Pittsburgh Original" were added later as the TT was modified over the years.
i bought a Terrible Towel at Gimbel's when they were released and still have it -- I'm holding it now.
If you are going to make changes to a page, please first be accurate and have some knowledge on the subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Appleseed15219 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
The About.com article in which you reference is incorrect. How is citing incorrect information being accurate? On what basis are you qualified to make incorrect edits?
Would you like a photo of the original towel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Appleseed15219 (talk • contribs) 05:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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Did you hear the Islanders are playing an exhibition in Kansas City [1]? Looks like they're taking a page from Mario's book. Though if they moved, I wouldn't mind. Maybe they would bring Nashville into the East, and Washington into the Atlantic - how amazing would that be? Grsz11 14:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Haha, guess I'm lucky I never watched enough Lost to understand what the hell's going on. Great game. Letang x2. Grsz11 17:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Super Bowl
What about them STEELERS, lets see them be the first to 6!!! HairyPerry 07:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yet another ring. The Steelers have got so much jewelry they should have their own personal Brinks employee. It's funny these two teams were once merged together temporarily and still went 0-10 for the season. They've come a ways since then. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm so proud of my people! Grsz11Review 20:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
2008 Steelers article
Great job on the artilce 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season. It definitely would be great to have WP articles this expansive on all the Super Bowl champions every year. That's why I hope one day my Chiefs season articles get paid off with a championship haha. You should definitely send it through Good Article and even Featured Article status. conman33 (. . .talk) 22:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
A sponge for you, and opinions on mops
I have granted rollback rights to your account; after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. :)
Also, have you run for adminship before? I think you do fine work here, and would like to know a bit more about you. We could certainly use your help in the admin corps! Would you be interested? Hope to hear back from you. :) GlassCobra 15:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
You are going to nominate this sometime this month, right? Just hoping you do, since I'll be nominating the topic in two/three months tops. I just want things to go a little bit faster, since you're list already has the potential for FLC. Thanks and happy editing! -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 04:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Pirates
It will be interesting to see what happens with those two. I actually expanded Rinku Singh and got a WP:DYK for it. The same could be done with Patel, and just reverse the hook. Grsz11 04:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Go figure the Bucs would go out and get a guy as messed up as one. Grsz11 04:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Undefeated, bitches!!! Grsz11 02:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
It occurs to me that it might be useful for someone with graphics skills to produce an outline map of the north shore of the Allegheny, showing the locations of Expo, Three Rivers, Heinz, and PNC relative to each other. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 01:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think on of Marc Okkonen's books has a graphic that shows Expo in relation to Three Rivers. And obviously the other two are standing, so their locations are not hard to determine. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Baseball Memories 1900-1909, p.69, does not show Three Rivers' location, but that can be inferred from any moderately recent atlas. I also think we've been through this before, but in any case, the Expo diamond was in roughly the northeast corner of the property, with South aka Ann Avenue bordering on the north edge (first base); School aka Scotland bordering on the east (third base); some distance and then railroad tracks and then the Allegheny River to the south (left field); and roughly two short blocks worth of open space and then Grant (Galveston) to the west (right field). Given that info, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out the relative positions of all the fields in that area. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's not as easy as it looks, because the area has been reconfigured so much over the years, but looking at Google maps, it looks like Robinson corresponds to South. I recall reading once that Expo Park had been estimated to be in the northeast corner of the Three Rivers parking lot, and that makes sense. Basically, the ballpark sites are all in that same area but do not overlap. If they were all magically there at the same time, you would see Heinz, Three Rivers, Expo, and PNC all spaced out fairly evenly along that stretch. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Baseball Memories 1900-1909, p.69, does not show Three Rivers' location, but that can be inferred from any moderately recent atlas. I also think we've been through this before, but in any case, the Expo diamond was in roughly the northeast corner of the property, with South aka Ann Avenue bordering on the north edge (first base); School aka Scotland bordering on the east (third base); some distance and then railroad tracks and then the Allegheny River to the south (left field); and roughly two short blocks worth of open space and then Grant (Galveston) to the west (right field). Given that info, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out the relative positions of all the fields in that area. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 02:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
The 1993 ballparks book called Diamonds, by Michael Gershman, Houghton-Mifflin publishers, has an old fire insurance map of "Exposition Park Base-Ball Grounds" on p.33, along with a possibly purloined copy of Okkonen's outline that I've been describing above. Again, South Avenue on the north (first base) edge and School on the east (third base) edge. As typical for the fire insurance maps, it gives a nice detailed outline of the structure of the grandstand, bleachers, and miscellaneous buildings on the property. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Okkonen's illustration shows the surrounding streets for several blocks, as well as the rail tracks and the river. The fire insurance map only shows the ballpark grounds itself. The more intriguing part, as I see it, is where were the other 2 ballparks that preceded it? There's been kind of an assumption all along that they were in the same place as the 1890-1915 ballpark, or nearly so. But I wonder if that's true? The wooden ballparks were typically on rental properties (the Polo Grounds was on rental property for its entire existence), and they came and went like circus tents, it seems. So it's possible that entire bottomland area was available to rent, and maybe they built the temporary stands wherever it seemed to fit best. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 16:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
WP:FL's
With your experience in featured lists, perhaps you could take a glance at Big East Player of the Year and throw out some advice on my talk page on where to go from here. Thanks, and P.S. - came across tickets for Saturday. Grsz11 04:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Ran into some problems with my sorting. Perhaps you'll take a look. Comments are on my talk page. Thanks, Grsz11 02:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I've brought this to FLC and would appreciate some feedback. Thanks, Grsz11 17:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
Cheers! Thanks for the barnstar; I appreciate it when people recognize others' work. You do a lot of hard work around here too, and it's appreciated.
The Special Barnstar | ||
For your high-quality work, evident wherever I see it. I can tell an article that's had your Wikipen on it. Cheers! KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC) |
Italy national baseball team
C class? Is there a national baseball team on Wikipedia with a nicer site? I take a lot of pride in the work I did on Italy national baseball team's site. It's worth at least a B+.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 22:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- I was just playing. If you feel it's worth a C, then you feel it's worth a C. I'd prefer an honest C than a sympathy B.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 13:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Dude...
How fast do you tag articles!? I couldn't even clear the redirects before you tagged the talk! KV5 (Talk • Phils) 23:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think I'm going to be all right; if I need a hand, I might ask, but I've got a schedule planned out to get it done (yes, I schedule my Wiki-work, haha). KV5 (Talk • Phils) 23:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Pirate Ship?
I'm in no position to know whether PNC Park is actually called "The Pirate Ship" or not, but if so, it seems to have run aground in recent years. What a contrast with the NFL team, who evidently built their own hull from Steel. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 00:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Steelers?
They don't retire numbers? Let me guess... there have been so many Hall of Famers on the Steelers, if they retired all their numbers they wouldn't have any numbers left? :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 22:19, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- That the Yanks have so many retiring is not surprising. Any more and they might have to go to triple digits. Meanwhile, I find it surprising that there's apparently no reliable source commenting on the Steelers having "unofficially" retired a number of jerseys. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 00:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- What you're saying is that the Steelers trainer, on his own volition, has effectively taken it upon himself to "retire" those numbers himself. I'm guessing he's got a secret room in the stadium, with his own little Hall of Fame, with those jerseys hanging on the wall. Alternative theory: He forgot to bring those jerseys with him when they imploded Three Rivers, and now they're gone with the wind (and the dust). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 00:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Blackngold29, saw the sig, and thought I'd drop by and say hi. Yep Bugs, local stations have run stories on not passing out numbers from the 70's (KDKA, WTAE, and WIIC .. wait, ahh ..WPXI now). Anyway, we're into Penguin season now - go Pens ! — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 01:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ho-hum, another year, another Super Bowl ring. Dullsville. Onward to hockey season! So, what's going to happen to the Civic Center after the new arena opens? I remember when they (literally) opened the old one. It was quite an engineering achievement in its day. But I guess its day is past. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:29, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- So it won't even open up anymore, eh? Well, that happens. At least count your lucky stars it didn't rust solid in the open position. That would have made things interesting in the winter months. So, are they going to tear it down, or does it have a future? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- The only team named for their arena... well, that could be. The Toronto Maple Leafs were originally called the "Arenas", although I think that was more like "Arena Hockey Club", so maybe it wasn't a true nickname. I always thought the Pittsburgh arena, with it's round, shiny roof, vaguely resembled a flying saucer; or the lid and its pan that my mom used to cook pork-and-beans in. All it lacked for that was a big knob on the top. But it really did look futuristic from the early-60s viewpoint. File:Pittsburgh-pennsylvania-mellon-arena-2007.jpg Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- As sentimental as attachments to a building can be, it's still just a building, and it's subject to wear and tear just like anything else. I loved the old Comiskey Park, but its infrastructure was truly antiquated and inferior. The main thing about a building is that it get maximum possible use, to justify the money that was put into it. The Metrodome, for example, gets dissed a lot, but it also gets an enormous amount of use: Twins baseball, some Gophers baseball, Vikings and Gophers football, NCAA basketball, car shows, boat shows, and all manner of things. Actually, you had that multi-usage right there in Pittsburgh, as Rec Park, Expo Park and Forbes Field were all built for baseball, but once they were there, they served lots of other uses, starting with football. Football really tears up the turf, though. Can you imagine, between that and the spring floods, what that Expo Park outfield was like by the time April rolled around? It's no wonder they built Forbes Field at roughly the top of a hill with a huge ravine nearby. No more flooding problems, presumably. Now they're back in the flood plain. I just hope the three rivers have better flood control mechanisms than they did in the 1890s. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- If you look at that photo File:PittWVUatExpoPark1908.jpg it's hard to tell if they're muddied, and it's amazing to see guys playing without helmets, but the fact is that baseball and football players like getting dirty. It's like a badge of honor. So if the Heinz field seeps, that probably works out. Except in January if it freezes, and I would venture a guess that most players don't like that very well. As I recall from my one visit to Pittsburgh, the PNC ballpark is actually kind of elevated, some distance above the river, whereas Expo park's outfield was literally following the lay of the land, so it's no wonder they supposedly had to lay boards on the field sometimes. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- As sentimental as attachments to a building can be, it's still just a building, and it's subject to wear and tear just like anything else. I loved the old Comiskey Park, but its infrastructure was truly antiquated and inferior. The main thing about a building is that it get maximum possible use, to justify the money that was put into it. The Metrodome, for example, gets dissed a lot, but it also gets an enormous amount of use: Twins baseball, some Gophers baseball, Vikings and Gophers football, NCAA basketball, car shows, boat shows, and all manner of things. Actually, you had that multi-usage right there in Pittsburgh, as Rec Park, Expo Park and Forbes Field were all built for baseball, but once they were there, they served lots of other uses, starting with football. Football really tears up the turf, though. Can you imagine, between that and the spring floods, what that Expo Park outfield was like by the time April rolled around? It's no wonder they built Forbes Field at roughly the top of a hill with a huge ravine nearby. No more flooding problems, presumably. Now they're back in the flood plain. I just hope the three rivers have better flood control mechanisms than they did in the 1890s. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- The only team named for their arena... well, that could be. The Toronto Maple Leafs were originally called the "Arenas", although I think that was more like "Arena Hockey Club", so maybe it wasn't a true nickname. I always thought the Pittsburgh arena, with it's round, shiny roof, vaguely resembled a flying saucer; or the lid and its pan that my mom used to cook pork-and-beans in. All it lacked for that was a big knob on the top. But it really did look futuristic from the early-60s viewpoint. File:Pittsburgh-pennsylvania-mellon-arena-2007.jpg Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- So it won't even open up anymore, eh? Well, that happens. At least count your lucky stars it didn't rust solid in the open position. That would have made things interesting in the winter months. So, are they going to tear it down, or does it have a future? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ho-hum, another year, another Super Bowl ring. Dullsville. Onward to hockey season! So, what's going to happen to the Civic Center after the new arena opens? I remember when they (literally) opened the old one. It was quite an engineering achievement in its day. But I guess its day is past. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:29, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Blackngold29, saw the sig, and thought I'd drop by and say hi. Yep Bugs, local stations have run stories on not passing out numbers from the 70's (KDKA, WTAE, and WIIC .. wait, ahh ..WPXI now). Anyway, we're into Penguin season now - go Pens ! — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 01:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- What you're saying is that the Steelers trainer, on his own volition, has effectively taken it upon himself to "retire" those numbers himself. I'm guessing he's got a secret room in the stadium, with his own little Hall of Fame, with those jerseys hanging on the wall. Alternative theory: He forgot to bring those jerseys with him when they imploded Three Rivers, and now they're gone with the wind (and the dust). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 00:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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Cannibaloki 20:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Would you like to write something in the lead of this article? Cannibaloki 20:41, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great! When finish, you should nominate the article for featured list candidacy. Cannibaloki 03:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Let me know what you think of this. Grsz11 00:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Steelers Barnstar
The Pittsburgh Steelers Barnstar | ||
For your strong effort and determination in writing, editing and getting the 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season article approved as a good article. -- Deejayk (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC) |
- I did some work on the Barnstar, so wanted to pass along the updated look. -- Deejayk (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at this article, and it's rather good. Why not an FA push in time for a Today's featured article on either the open or close date? Grsz11 05:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't realize it was 100 years, but that would be great. It looks close and shouldn't take too much work. I'll go over it when I have some more time. Grsz11 11:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- It would be a great TFA. By June, the Pirates will by around .500, but with the inspiration of such a great article, they'll finish out the season strong and win the pennant. ;) Grsz11 22:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, In case you missed it on your watchlist, I reviewed the article at Wikipedia:Peer review/Forbes Field/archive1. Dr pda (talk) 05:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- Great, looks like we got another set of eyes. I'll take a look with this in the next couple days when I have time. Grsz11 03:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I don't have any of the books which make up most of the sourcing. I've been doing some general editing from the review, but any factual issues are all you, haha. Grsz11 17:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ya, I'm in the shit-storm this week, but I usually can't stay motivated long enough to work for extended periods of time. Grsz11 20:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. A few months ago you removed several information about Mellon Arena because of the lack of reliable sources (to which I agree, BTW). Today the Post-Gazette has run an article about the problems the arena faces nowadays, which is something the article has been lacking because there were no RS's. You possibly have stumbled on the article, and I'm just mentioning here for you to have it in mind whenever you have the time and/or the will to edit there. I'd do it myself, but I try to stay away of editing long stuff on Wikipedia:en, since it's not my first language. Thanks for the attention! Best regards, Agiesbrecht (talk) 19:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC) (or Agiesbrecht)
- Thank you! It's a good summary for the time being. Best regards, Agiesbrecht (talk) 17:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
On the talk page of that article, an external link ([2]) has been brought to my attention as part of an official fan club of Dream Theater. I initially rejected it, under the pretenses that it was a promo and not a final draft. But the user that first linked this photo is not happy with both what I said and the approximate song lengths on the article from the reviewer vs. the "confirmed" song lengths of this promo, so he went on the article and added those song lengths. Would this photo be a reliable source or should the man's track list editing be reverted? BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 03:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Draft
I think I'll like this guy. Reminds me of a Fred Taylor (American football). Grsz11 21:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nick Schommer may have some bearing on any modification of WP:ATHLETE, so you may wish to check that out. Grsz11 16:56, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Matt Clement
This is simple....I exist. Matthew S. Matthew Paul doesn't have a monopoly on the name. So stop erasing my edit. If you don't, I'll return the favor by going through ALL of your edits and undoing each. And we can do that as many times as you like. The info I added is accurate. The page is for Matt Clement, whom I happen to be. Thanks for your cooperation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.76.126.252 (talk) 21:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Pens
Things better shape up real quick...I'm going to the Atlanta game. If they don't, I may find my self jumping on the out-Therrien bandwagon. Grsz11 03:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- There's a point when sitting back and saying "Oh, they'll come around" doesn't work anymore, and the coach actually needs to do something. I was thinking they need to start going drastic: call up a handful from Wilkes-Barre, Jeff Taffe and Chris Minard are 2 and 3 in AHL scoring, Minard has 26 goals in 30 games. Plus Pesonen, Stone, Wallace, BisNasty, whoever, and scratch everybody one or two at a time - Crosby and Malkin too, they suck - it worked for the Eagles. Grsz11 14:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, looks like Therrien is on his way out. Grsz11 20:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I was too eager to make this this edit after the game. Grsz11 04:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Looks like Tom Renney will be available this offseason... Grsz11 19:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
This was a freaking awesome deal! Grsz11 19:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
My bad, when I removed the Kunitz hattrick I missed the bit about the sellouts. Grsz11 23:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Do you know of any sources for Pittsburgh Penguins Most Valuable Player? Grsz11 16:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- As if everybody wasn't already aware that the Flyer are a joke... how many penalties was that? Grsz11 01:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
What do you think about using Template:Hockeybox2 for the playoff log? I'm not sure I have an opinion yet. It's essentially the same as the current log, and could be collapsed in just the same. I believe it's the template used in the league articles. Grsz11 02:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, actually it's Template:NHLPlayoffs, which would work too. Grsz11 02:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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I'm not really sure what I think of it yet. It seems to have wider use - Stanley Cup, Calder Cup, could be used for international competitions. It could also show assists as well. Maybe something to sleep on, ha, as well as a good Game 1. Grsz11 02:25, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I've sent you an e-mail, figured you be here shortly. Grsz11 01:42, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- You beat me. Payback for last night. Grsz11 01:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- I missed the hit!! Grsz11 22:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- So, the Capitals are playing a rookie goalie with 6 NHL starts. Interesting. Grsz11 23:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was at work. Go figure you could still see the game anywhere except Pittsburgh on Versus. I guess we didn't miss to much. Grsz11 03:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
- Can we say: Thank you Dan Carcillo! Grsz11 23:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Really awesome game! Can't wait for Friday! Grsz11 02:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
WP:SLIP
I put you as co-nominator for All Hope Is Gone FA nominaton. REZTER TALK ø 14:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey man, I was wodnering... if you get the time. Could you write up a a musical style/lyrical themes section for To My Surprise (album).... I've been working on the article here... User:Rezter/Sandbox2. I'm terrible at those kind of sections. I think this article might be able to get GA status. REZTER TALK ø 14:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Just thought I'd check up on what you were doing and what you think we should do with the Slipknot Project now. Is there anything you think we should specifically work on atm? REZTER TALK ø 13:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Haha that's pretty jokes man. REZTER TALK ø 16:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Hey bruv... just thought I'd let you know I've been working on the article Stone Sour (album) and I was wondering if you could help me out? It's over at my sandbox (User:Rezter/Sandbox2#ss) and if you can I'd love for you to give it a read over... maybe a quick copyedit and feel free to add whatever you want... but most importantly... could you write the Musical style/lyrical themes thing? I can never do those things... there's a shit load of sources on there so you should be able to at least get a decent paragraph out of it. Thanks in advance. :] REZTER TALK ø 17:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm OK.... I think you're right. It is a list really. REZTER TALK ø 15:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hey.... i've just been adding a few reviews to All Hope Is Gone World Tour and it reminded me that I haven't added ones for the two previous US legs. Every time I go to do it I just really don't want to do it lol. There are some links to reviews here: User:Rezter/Sandbox2, do you think you could add them reviews to the AHIG tour page? I really don't know why I can't do it lol. REZTER TALK ø 12:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- What's happening man... I dunno if you know about this but Slipknot were featured on the soundtrack for the video game Infected and appeared in it (the first and to date only time they've officially appeared in a game [to my knowledge]) so I figured I may as well add this to the project. I quite liek the idea of working on this article too if you're up for it. Check out my sandbox. REZTER TALK ø 01:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey dude... jsut wondering if you will have time anytime soon to work on the musical style section of Come What(ever) May? If so... I'm working on it over at my sandbox. It's just that I'm gonna work on the reception section then hopefully the lead, then get it up and GA it. If you can't work on it no worries, just let me know. REZTER TALK ø 14:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Forbes batting cage, etc.
I uploaded this [3] on the wikia baseball site. I gather they have rather less restrictive rules, but we'll find out. In any case, this is a frame from Angels in the Outfield that shows the batting cage and the Dreyfuss monument on the playing field in the background. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- This one [4] is interesting for at least 2 reasons. One is that it shows the inner fence with its 335 and the outer wall with its 365. The other is that scoreboard is clear enough that you can easily see the line scores. According to Retrosheet, they match exactly with the American League schedule for April 28, 1951. [5] The early-spring filming probably accounts for the ivy being barren of leaves. I don't know about Pittsburgh, but the ivy at Chicago's Wrigley Field doesn't usually leaf out until May. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- It's also worth pointing out that the Pirates were at home that day. I'm guessing they filmed the game and then used whatever shots might have fit the situation, but who knows? This one [6] is game action supposedly occurring at Forbes Field, but it's actually at L.A.'s version of Wrigley Field. Note the 345 sign in the power alley, no inner fence, and also a very recognizable house across the street, rather than the Carnegie Library. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- That house is visible in this colorized photo of L.A. Wrigley: [7] Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- It's also worth pointing out that the Pirates were at home that day. I'm guessing they filmed the game and then used whatever shots might have fit the situation, but who knows? This one [6] is game action supposedly occurring at Forbes Field, but it's actually at L.A.'s version of Wrigley Field. Note the 345 sign in the power alley, no inner fence, and also a very recognizable house across the street, rather than the Carnegie Library. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wanted to get your go-ahead before nominating for FAC. I made most of the peer review suggestions (though stopped marking them off about half-way through). I think it's ready, with just maybe a few minor adjustments needed. Grsz11 18:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
HoldenV8
I think he's been similarly screwing around with all the ballpark articles. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Discussion on diacritics
You are welcome to join the discussion on diacritics here.
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The Music Barnstar | ||
I figured that I wanted to give you a barnstar of music, since you have closely monitored the wikipedia page for Black Clouds & Silver Linings so well. Keep up the good work. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 04:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC) |
- No problem, dude. Yeah, expanding it to Good article status would be nice. I've been enjoying editing this article with ya, and I was planning on giving you that barnstar for a while, a while meaning probably since earlier this month and planning to give it to you once the album was released. You have indeed done a nice job on the page. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 04:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
2004 World Series PR
You commented on the 2004 World Series FAC a while back. I've now started PR in the hope of renominating it. See it here. BUC (talk) 08:45, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Beat me
You beat me to that revert, but I went ahead and proposed that article for deletion. I feel for you guys right now, though... KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:01, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
PNC Park
When I noticed that PNC Park is Today's Featured Article, I smiled and said to my wife: "Hey, I copyedited that!" Congrats on making it to the front page. Have a donut. Scartol • Tok 17:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Good job, it's nice to see FA related to the place I currently reside in :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
SVG Logos.
Yes, they do, as of now meet WP:NFCC. There have been discussions over this matter in which no consensus has been made, so I don't see why they shouldn't be used. Plus, alot of major companies on Wikipedia have non-free vectors, in which there are probably thousands of them. I have read the non-free policy over, and I have provided a rationale for the non-free vector. Connormah (talk) 03:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Image_use_policy#File:Man_Utd_FC_.svg--Connormah (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, most of the other arenas seem to have logos, I thought it would improve the article. It does not damage the article, so I don't see a problem. --Connormah (talk) 21:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- I have left comments at Talk:Mellon Arena Connormah (talk) 01:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- Well, most of the other arenas seem to have logos, I thought it would improve the article. It does not damage the article, so I don't see a problem. --Connormah (talk) 21:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
FLRC
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Hey
Hey how has it been? We've got just one more day (about 33 hours actually) until hockey! Would you be interested in another GA push? Grsz11 14:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Might want to put in alt text for the images. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Lasorda's Kingman rant
I noticed something interesting about the Tommy Lasorda Kingman rant, and brought it up for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball. I think you might want in on this discussion.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 20:33, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Notice
This is a notice, I'm not giving you much of an option. I want to see Forbes Field on the Main Page on October 13, 1960. Fifty years from the greatest day in Pirates history, and they'll be in the middle of the NLCS - it'll be grand! Grsz11 19:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
The Half Barnstar | ||
You get half of this barnstar now. You only get the other have when you meet the above-mentioned conditions. Don't let Maz down! Grsz11 19:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC) |
Question
Hey, was there a discussion at WT:HOCKEY I missed not to add player stats to season articles? Grsz11 17:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
List of Pittsburgh Penguins first-round draft picks. Feel free to chip in. Once I get some more prose I'll send to FLC. Grsz11 18:05, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey, where the heck have you been? Some guys looking good; others, not so much. Grsz11 03:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Favor?
Hey. I trust your judgment and your baseball eye. Mind casting a critical glance over the new article Whiz Kids (baseball)? I'd appreciate it. Thanks. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps eventually. Right now, it's just at DYK. The one source in the April-May paragraph verifies all of the info; I didn't know if it was necessary to duplicate it at all. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Ratings question
Hi! You're a contributor to this area and would appreciate your opinion. I've posted a question to Talk:2009_World_Series#Ratings about which sourcing/definition for the World Series ratings we should use, any opinion you could lend would be appreciated! Staxringold talkcontribs 08:58, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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Long tiiiiiiime!
Hey man.... it's bee too long! Sorry I haven't be around lately... been really busy with University and stuff but I'm gonna try make room for at least a few hours each week of pure Wikipedia time, I'm gonna try focus my efforts on turning articles around instead of just trying to stop vandalism and stuff now. I have just nominated All Hope Is Gone World Tour for a GA, so if you help with that that would be greatly appreciated. I also want to get back to work on the Come What(ever) May article at my sandbox.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE could you work on the musical style section for that?.... I can do the reception section pretty swiftly and the intro... I just really don't know how to approach the musical style sections. I'd love to get a system going again were we write articles together again :] we make a great team! REZTER TALK ø 14:25, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for that bro, Come What(ever) May is now a GAC. I was thinking maybe the next article we could work on is Nic Diederichs Technical High School slashing, I don't think it would take a great deal of work to get it nice and decent and potentially a GA. But I'm cool with working on any of them. Please let me know when you want to work on something and what you need from me. I have two GACs to keep an eye on at the moment so I won't be taking on a whole article to myself for a bit. But if you get a project n an article up and running.... then I'll be there to help. REZTER TALK ø 16:47, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Argyle
Hey BnG, just let me know whenever you come across one of Argyle2006's socks, I'll take care of them. Best, faithless (speak) 07:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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Slipknot Project Roll Call
In an attempt to breath life back in to the Project I am arranging a Roll Call and will begin making arrangement for group initiatives throughout the coming months. Just so the Project can keep an updated list of people who continue to contribute to the Project a Roll Call will happen from time to time. It is understood that over time, users may have lost interest in the Project or Wikipedia all together; if you have, it's no big deal. If you would like to keep contributing to the project please sign the list here. If you do not add your name to the list by January 16, you will become an "Inactive member", this will bar you from voting in the AoF, as well as receiving the monthly newsletter. Remember, if you ever want to join the project again, you are always welcome!!! REZTER TALK ø 01:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
2009 World Series
Heyo! Given the work you did on the FAC for 2004 World Series I'd love if you could stop by the FAC for the 2009 World Series! Thanks. Staxringold talkcontribs 20:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
January 2010 Slipknot Newsletter
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Apologies to the editors for the lack of project activity in the past couple of months. But let's forget about that and move forward, we've had great success as a project so far and continue to improve articles. I would like to take this opportunity to remind editors that the main premise of this WikiProject is to bring editors together and collaborate on improving articles related to Slipknot. Editors are encouraged to address objectives mentioned on the project to-do list and arrange collaborations with other project members on the project talk page. If you want to work on an article but want help from other editors, ask for it here.
Slipknot recently concluded touring in support of their 2008 album All Hope Is Gone and released a short-film alongside the single "Snuff". Band members have begun working with their side-projects again, including Stone Sour and Dirty Little Rabbits, albums are expected from both of those bands in 2010. |
Slipknot Project - AoF voting now open
Voting for the next Article of Focus from the Slipknot Porject is now open. You are invited to vote on which article you think the project should focus it's efforts on based on nominations from project members. Go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Slipknot/AoF to vote and find out more! REZTER TALK ø 15:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back
Haven't seen you around for a while. I wanted to pop in and see if you had any baseball DYKs to your name that I couldn't find; you'd be the final person we'd need to qualify for a special edition WikiProject triple crown if you did. Either way... welcome back, and hope to still see you around again! KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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1978 Pittsburgh Steelers season article
I realize it's been quite a while, but you participated in a discussion regarding improving the article on the '78 Steelers season. I've recently taken up the cause of getting this article up to Good Article standards and have made quite a few substantive changes to the article. There's still work to be done, but the article is shaping up.
I'd love it if you would take a look at what I've done and provide any feedback on the article talk page. Thanks! — DeeJayK (talk) 21:06, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Template policy discussion
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Pittsburgh Penguins staff
Template:Pittsburgh Penguins staff has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Sorry to bring this up a time when you're probably grieving at the hands of the Habs. Anyway, you've got a Cup from last year, and two more from years ago. What does Vancouver have? NOTHING. Schmloof (talk) 03:36, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, scratch that last bit. We do have a fairly large bandwagon. Schmloof (talk) 03:45, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
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Suggested Additions to Steelers' Page
Hey BlacknGold29, you seem to be the lead on the Steelers' Team page so I thought I'd send this to you (since it is a closed article that the public cannot edit) to see if you thought it worth mentioning on the Steelers' page (I tried to get a discussion going on the Steelers' page but no one responded).
I think it'd be worth noting in the article that Post-merger, the Steelers have won more regular season games then any other NFL franchise (375 wins) and have a better regular season winning percentage than any other franchise (60.7%). Also, in the history of the NFL (pre or post-merger) the Steelers have played in the second most playoff games (50, second to Dallas' 58), won the second most playoff games (31, second to Dallas' 33), and have the highest playoff winning percentage (62%). I got these facts from http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tgl_finder.cgi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.60.50.172 (talk) 07:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
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Consideration of new C-SPAN rewrite
Hi Blackngold, thanks for your input last week on the Booknotes article. I've been making a project of researching, rewriting and proposing updates to various pages about C-SPAN, and my latest is an overhaul of Washington Journal. A proposed new draft is currently here, and I've left a short note asking for someone else to review it on the related Talk page. Since you seem interested in C-SPAN topics—your overhaul of the Brian Lamb article was a significant improvement—I thought I'd check with you first and see if you would give it your blessing, or give me some advice. Let me know when you find a moment. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 15:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Hello again! When I left this message, I didn't realize you had been away for awhile. I thank you for returning long enough to weigh in on Booknotes. This time, after seeking a response on the Washington Journal Talk page and again later at WikiProject Television without any response, I went ahead and made the update. If you're back on Wikipedia anytime soon, I have plans to improve a few other C-SPAN related pages, so just drop me a line if you think you could be of any help. Best, WWB Too (talk) 21:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
History of the Steelers
Some while back I stumbled across your SteelersSandbox and have been waiting ever since to see some of the great information contained within to show up in the History of the Pittsburgh Steelers article. Well, I've grown tired of waiting and am myself attempting to integrate this content here. As I work through this, I notice several "(Men xx)" notations in your text and I'm curious what these are references to. I haven't found any cited text that appears to match this name or the content. Any assistance you can provide in clearing up this mystery would be appreciated. Go Steelers! — DeeJayK (talk) 21:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply and the information. As I re-read my query, I realize I may have come off as a bit churlish. That was not my intent — I completely understand the need to take a break from WP from time to time as well as the way in which efforts that are started sometimes get sidetracked. I hope you don't mind me using your content (I assumed you wouldn't since you had it up on WP). I'll play with what I have a bit more over the next few days and loop you back in to take a look before I release it into the wild. — DeeJayK (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have incorporated the info in your SteelersSandbox into the History of the Pittsburgh Steelers article as well as the Art Rooney article. Please take a look when you get a chance. Feel free to make any corrections/additions you see fit and let me know if you have any feedback. I am continuing to work on the history article. My next task is to document the sale of the team to Alexis Thompson in 1940 and the subsequent franchise swap with the Eagles. — DeeJayK (talk) 20:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
CONSOL vs. Consol
I understand there has been debate in the past whether or not to capitalize the "Consol" in CONSOL Energy Center in the Wikipedia article. Throughout the entire article, the arena is referred to CONSOL Energy Center, however the title does not correspond. If the company's name is CONSOL Energy, then shouldn't the arena be named CONSOL Energy Center, and not Consol? Cheers, and Happy New Year, Belugaboycup of tea? 03:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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