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Majid Rafizadeh

Hi Biosthmors (talk), Thank you so much for your recent edits. Very helpful. I am trying to be constructive contributor on Wiki and learning! I did some rewriting of texts and deleting biased information in order to neutralize it. Do you recommend something else? Thank you! I did an overhaul of the article, Can you check the changes please! Thanks! Persia135 (talk) 12:25, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


Hello Biosthmors (talk). Can you please check the edits on page you edited Majid Rafizadeh? Persia135 (talk) 7:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I checked Persia135. Thanks for the edits. It still needs work, in my opinion. Following WP:RS that can be WP:V would be a fantastic start. Do you happen to have an affiliation with the subject? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 02:29, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much Biosthmors (talk)! No, I am a female interested in both Farsi and English sites. I think there is vandalism going on on the page. The subject is being attacked and he appears to be human rights activist. It seems that some would like to damage the credibility of the subject. For example, the first sentence is left with broken dots, etc. His achievements and career deleted. This seems to be an attempt to damage the credibility of the subject and to incite/add extra templates. Can you fix the page please? Thank you!! Persia135 (talk) 11:39, 6 Aug 2015 (UTC)
The article is back to the way it was. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 15:46, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Biosthmors (talk)! With your efforts, now people are trying to vandalize the page and hurt the human right activist. Thank you for your work. Persia135 (talk) 11:39, 20 Aug 2015 (UTC) 11:39, 20 Aug 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2E8C:D950:DF0:375A:2530:8347 (talk)
Biosthmors (talk), we hope you do not have personal grudge and grievance against the human rights activist for opposing autocrats. 20 Aug 2015 (UTC)
Hi Biosthmors (talk), Thank you for joining us. We started a campaign to oppose Majid Rafizadeh. Politicalscientist1 and talk are with us. Someone told me that you are with us too. We have been trying to discredit this person because he keeps criticizing Iran and Syria with no reason. We have been trying to make editors add templates to his page, which has worked. talk has been good at this; We began by adding stuff to make editors add templates. Thank you again for joining us. Can we add another template to make him look worse? How can we add another bad template? We also tried to delete his page last time, but it did not work. Can you help us with that or adding another bad template?
Hello all. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a WP:BATTLEGROUND. We're not here to WP:Right great wrongs. We're just here to write a neutral encyclopedia. I happen to be disappointed with the quality of the article, but that doesn't mean I am trying to make the individual look "bad". Wikipedia just has certain quality standards it tries to meet. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 01:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Biosthmors (talk), we totally understand that you have to mention this on the surface. But we want to again thank you for joining our campaign of opposing Rafizadeh. Since you have high profile, can you make sure that (unlike for Rafizadeh) no one put templates or discredit these people on Wiki (they have similar pages like Rafizadeh): Karim Sadjadpour, Alireza Nader, Reza Aslan, Afshin Molavi, Valin Nasr.  We support these people since they are in favor of the Iranian government.

Finally, can you remove these third party links from Rafizadeh's sources ..so we can make sure that his page will be further discredited or removed to hurt him?

http://www.france24.com/en/20120831-syria-majid-rafizadeh-kidnap-family-targetted-civil-war-shabiha-opposition-bashar-assad http://scholar.harvard.edu/majidrafizadeh/biocv https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_interviews_Scott_Lucas,_Eyal_Zisser,_Majid_Rafizadeh_about_risks_of_US_military_intervention_in_Syria http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/08/world/meast/syria-shiites http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/04/how-bashar-al-assad-became-so-hated/275058/ http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/07/jobs-key-to-middle-easts-revolutionary-wave/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEx245Tjgxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vboe_KSUwrs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YdkZtFSq3o http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/profile/majid-rafizadeh.html http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/07/opinion/la-oe-rafizadeh-no-intervention-in-syria-20130507 http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/new-softer-nuclear-rhetoric-hides-irans-unchanged-policy http://middleeastvoices.voanews.com/2012/07/viewpoint-lets-finally-acknowledge-that-war-is-raging-in-syria-13090/ http://www.apbspeakers.com/speaker/majid-rafizadeh http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/16/opinion/iran-rouhani-syria-rafizadeh/index.html http://english.cntv.cn/program/bizasiaamerica/20130206/103089.shtml http://archive.is/et7bf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCcRP8LjjFg http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/01/04/irans-economic-stake-in-syria/ http://iranian.com/main/blog/darius-kadivar/niac-ambassador-majid-rafizadeh-appeasement-iran-sanctions-intervention-syria.html

Republic, Lost and So Damn Much Money

Might it be sensible to add a "see also" for something like the following:

So Damn Much Money: The Triumph of Lobbying and the Corrosion of American Government (2009) by Robert G. Kaiser

I have not read Kaiser's book, but the title and Kaiser's bio suggest that this could be an appropriate "see also" for Republic, Lost ... ???

I asked, because you deleted a broken link to a nonexistent article on So Damn Much Money, and adding a "see also" like this could direct the interested reader to a book that sounds relevant while also acknowledging the contribution of the person who added "So Damn Much Money" to "see also".

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello there, DavidMCEddy. I put it in further reading, as wp:see also says we're not to put red links there. We're a "nation of laws" here. ;-) Thanks for asking. Kind regards. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 00:34, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't know the history, but the link could have been blue when created and changed to red, after some ranking editor speedily deleted an article on So Damn Much Money. Wikipedia has articles on books, but if a book is not "noteworthy", an article about it will likely be speedily deleted. That has happened to articles I've written, and I was discouraged from making other contributions to Wikimedia projects. We can't sacrifice the quality of Wikipedia for excessive sensitivity for the feelings of our contributors. In this case, the Wikipedia bio of Robert G. Kaiser suggests that his So Damn Much Money is probably carefully researched and documented. If so, it deserves to be cited, e.g., via a "see also" link to his bio mentioning that book, as I suggested. How can we get an evaluation from someone who has read the book? I haven't. Can you identify the person who added that red link? DavidMCEddy (talk) 23:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi DavidMCEddy. It was created as red because it was created when the page was created[1] (that's the initial article) and if you click on So Damn Much Money there's no mention of it ever being deleted. (I'm pretty sure there's always a record left of a link has been deleted, if it has been.) If you look at Iran\xE2\x80\x93United States relations, for example, it has been deleted and you see a record of it. To write a new article about a book, I would recommend citing a few book reviews to show it's received attention and press. That way the article demonstrates wp:notability. Then I'd also state the bare minimum summary as to what the book is. This is what I've done with the article 13 Bankers, an article that has now remained for years after I started it.
I don't doubt that So Much Damn Money is carefully researched and documented. I don't doubt it's notable and that it deserves an article. But no, to answer your question, I don't know how to track someone down who has read it. (For what it's worth, I don't see how that would be useful for us to build an encyclopedia here either. =) ) And I also don't see why we need something in the see also section now that the book is in the further reading section. Did you see this edit I made:[2]? I'm sorry you've been discouraged in the past by having contributions deleted, but I can still help with the learning curve. I have had some content deleted as well, for what it's worth! Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 01:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Thx. DavidMCEddy (talk) 17:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
DavidMCEddy, your user page is interesting. And I appreciate you being here. I have created Government by the People Act and I have also contributed to Move to Amend. It appears we have similar interests. I receive emails from rootstrikers. Let me know if you have any questions, or feel free to shoot me an email through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Biosthmors Kind regards. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 00:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

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Wouldn't this be better if it was moved to one's user space? I have zero idea why it is needed?! Cheers! --MurderByDeletionism"bang!" 05:30, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

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You're welcome. Thanks for the link. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for your support, buoyed by which I've overhauled the whole article. I'd appreciate your feedback if you feel so inclined. Have a good one! Dubbinu | t | c 11:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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…for your hard work at Prothrombin G20210A, and ask you not to be alarmed or offended by recent edits. I am simply calling attention to need for more updated sourcing, as there has been much done since the preponderance of references appearing, especially in understanding variations in frequency in different populations. As well, I have noted (as one trained in this) that stating frequencies without stating whether source population is healthy vs an otherwise selected population, without stating the geography/ethnicity of the population studied, and without reference to homozygous versus heterozygous leads to inaccuracy of content presented. (For instance, almost all statistics given in the article—and I have called for an expert to check this—appear to be for the frequency of occurrence of heterozygous individuals among those diagnosed with DVT.) For instance, Aleman et al (2013), while not the best source for us because it is a primary source, makes clear the degree of detail necessary to be accurate, in stating:

"Individuals with elevated prothrombin (hyperprothrombinemia), including those with the G20210A mutation in the prothrombin 3′-untranslated region… [note how this captures the fact that G20210A is not the only prothrombin mutation responsible for hyperprothrombinemia] have ≈3-fold increased risk for venous thrombosis. In particular, the [heterozygous] G20210A mutation is associated with ≈115% to 170% of normal prothrombin activity levels. This [heterozygous] mutation is present in 1% to 4% of the general European population, making it the second most common genetic risk factor for venous thrombosis in the white population."

In short, when statistics are given, the population on which they is based must be clearly stated (the 2-3-fold that was in the lead was without such details, and so was removed), and simple heterozygous must be somewhere specified (vs compound/double, homozygous, etc.).

Note that while the Mannucci & Franchini review added to Further reading supports a 2-3% frequency of the heterozygous state in the general population, it cites only one study, from 1998, and so I believe additional reviews need to be consulted before deriving a single, authoritative number. Because haematology is not my area, and because I do not have time to do the article justice (updating it, and checking the stats against the most recent reviews, clarifying populations), I have called for an expert from Wikiproject Medicine. I have also noted that some editorial contributions appear to be from non-native English speakers, because some copyediting appears to be needed, to make word choices and subject-verb agreements more standard.

Please, do not be offended by this attention to the article; we both have the same goal for the article, that it become a GA here at wikipedia. Cheers, User:Le Prof_7272 50.129.227.141 (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Biosthmors, You removed this, but the article never got updated with the content in the mentioned PMID. Is there perhaps another template with text which would be better suited to this job, i.e. "Content in this section is outdated, please update with information from [source]"? LeadSongDog come howl! 19:56, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Ahhhh... Thanks for the message LeadSongDog. Now I understand what the intended meaning was. I thought the template was saying the article too heavily cited an old source, instead of it neglecting a more updated source. When I just quickly looked at the template again, it looks ambiguous, and I am not sure if a more appropriate template is at WP:TC or not. One could also just create one's own announcement at the top of the page. I see Doc James has made some edits, perhaps the specific issue is now resolved. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 20:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks Tom (LT)! =) Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 19:28, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you for the reminder Gerda Arendt. =) I hope you are doing well. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
I am well privately, - not so much here, - see my talk, look for Coward, - that's a name, not an insult ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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hi there Biosthmors

I feel like I've fixed everything that was wrong with this page -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Oak_Felder Please let me know if you could review and potentially approve it. I think it is now in good shape. i appreciate your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkerouacesq (talk • contribs) 03:21, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Rigvir

Hi! I noticed you were discussing and helping clean up Rigvir article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIGVIR), and I was wondering if you could have a look at the article now and maybe advise on further improvements? I've tried to clean up the article as well and would like to add some new secondary sources, e.g., http://skepticisms.lv/enciklopedija/rigvir-when-science-takes-a-back-seat/ in a Latvian pharmaceutical magazine or news report about local oncologist associations asking for its deregistration due to insufficient evidence, but as a Wiki newbie I am not certain it would be accepted as a good source or considered Original Research. Any thoughts or advice?--KC LV (talk) 09:34, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi KC LV. Unfortunately, I don't currently have the time necessary to cast a skeptical eye at the article. If you'd like to attract comments, I'd recommend trying WT:MED if you haven't already. Best wishes. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 00:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you Gerda Arendt! I hope all is well! Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 12:55, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

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I'd much appreciate it if you would hold revisions for a few hours, until I'm finished. Thanks. deisenbe (talk) 12:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm done now. deisenbe (talk) 20:59, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Nice work deisenbe. I enjoyed reading the article. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 14:57, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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Many thanks Gerda Arendt! Biosthmors (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

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Don't you think that this action deserved at least a little discussion before burying all the work that went into it? You said "see talk", but said nothing there... LeadSongDog come howl! 17:47, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I understand your concern LeadSongDog. Please allow me to explain. I believe I said see talk just so others can see the evidence that we are not capable of managing such articles, though exceptions can exist. Evidence exists there that the article was out of date. Generally speaking, the number of active editors compared to the number of articles we should be maintaining is horribly skewed.[3] As such, discussion is hard to come by. But specifically, in this case I did notify the most relevant and active WikiProject of my bold edit.[4] So I believe I did my due diligence. Best regards. Biosthmors (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough. I just added this to the defunct talkpage. Thanks for the context. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:58, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Auto-linking titles with free DOIs

Hello, just a notice that I mentioned a message of yours at Help talk:Citation Style 1#Auto-linking titles with free DOIs. Nemo 13:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. Biosthmors (talk) 17:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the laugh

I appreciate the humour and reality of your comment. I needed that moment. Best wishesTsistunagiska (talk) 21:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Seven years!

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Your expertise?

Hi Biosthmors!

Apologies for reaching out here, I'm new. I'm a researcher studying & starting to contribute to WikiMed. I'm particularly interested in the work on the of Disease Study.

I noticed you've contributed to the section "Results" - can I email you a few questions on that or post them here?

Thanks for considering!

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Feedback - Cochrane

Thanks for the feedback, I will review your comments as I continue edits going forward. BDD user (talk) 21:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Great. Thank you for the reply and your consideration BDD user. Best wishes. Biosthmors (talk) 21:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Cochrane Wikipedian in Residence

Dear User Biosthmors, I noticed on WP:MED that you are interested in learning more about Cochrane's partnership with Wikipedia. First, thank you for helping to clean up some of these medical articles. I strongly agree that the names of the publishers of systematic reviews should not be included in the lead or in the body of the article. I do not moderate each instance where someone adds evidence from a Cochrane review, but I do offer to review edits when someone is transitioning to the encyclopedic style of writing. The most common 'learning curve' error is adding in details from systematic reviews, which I immediately clean up when noted as you did. I also help organize the Cochrane Reviews to consider for improving articles. The goal of the partnership with Wikipedia is to help experts improve the medical articles that so many people are accessing. I do not train (or even know about) all new editors on Wikipedia who decide to add evidence from Cochrane, however I wrote this help guide (with help from a with a few collaborators from WP:MED) to try and assist experts navigate Wikipedia editing and improve medical articles on Wikipedia with WP:MEDRS sources. If you have any suggestions please do jump in and continue to improve it! I also noticed all your amazing work at Deep vein thrombosis over the summer. Congratulations! I edit regularly myself but find that the community has been quieter and I miss people from the Wikipedia community coming in and further improving my contributions and noting any mistakes!!! If you have any specific questions or ideas please do not hesitate to reach out via Wikipedia or email me. JenOttawa (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words JenOttawa. It does seem quieter, I agree. Since that editor was inspired by the initiative (as I recently mentioned at WT:MED), would you please review their contributions and either copy-edit or scrub their additions if they would not be included as such in a high-quality and well-developed Wikipedia entry? Best wishes. Biosthmors (talk) 02:51, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Eight years!

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Peer review for deep vein thrombosis

Hi, are you still interested in the peer review for deep vein thrombosis? I was going to archive it for inactivity as there hasn't been comments since August, but I thought I would check with you first. Zetana (talk) 07:03, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

I think it can be archived. I am still interested in addressing the last points raised, but I'm happy to do that in an archived version. Thank you for asking Zetana. Biosthmors (talk) 12:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
OK, no problem! I've archived it for now. Zetana (talk) 20:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

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if you're here to tell me that i did something wrong with a deletion nomination, then thanks, but i'm busy in real life. i asked others to do it, others who bear responsibility for cleaning up WP:Student assignments, but no one stepped up FYI. fix it for me please. thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 19:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Lifestyle and Mental Health

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There are lots of articles that are cited 1000 times (or more). Generally, those are just mentions, only rarely is there a discussion of those articles. Does not meet WP:GNG.

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Hello Randykitty, I was thinking you were right after looking only at PubMed indexed literature, but after a Google Books search, I made some improvements to the article and removed the template with an explanatory diff. Thank you. Biosthmors (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
I'll wait a moment until the article is converted to an article covering the topic, using the Walsh article as a source, rather than an article about the Walsh review. If it's not going to be converted, I'll take this to WP:AFD. There's thousands of articles like this review, cited thousands of times and discussed in other articles: that's how science advances, by discussing each others work and ideas. Only rarely is a journal article important enough to justify a WP entry. This is not one of them. --Randykitty (talk) 11:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Randykitty, I have converted the article. Any current thoughts relating to WP:AFD? Also, while attempting to wp:build the web, I found Therapeutic Lifestyle Change (depression treatment), which I find concerning because that article is written as if it is supposed to be branded to one academic instead of a generalized concept. The topic of therapeutic lifestyle changes is a big part of Walsh's 2011 review, but the Therapeutic Lifestyle Change (depression treatment) article is written as if it is branded to one academic. Meanwhile, Walsh doesn't even cite Ilardi. I tagged the article with {{unbalanced}}. In fact, it strikes me as more of an advertisement as currently written. Thoughts? Biosthmors (talk) 14:21, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes, that article is indeed unbalanced and somewhat promotional. I'd see it as a start, to be merged with Lifestyle and Mental Health (LaMH). "Lifestyle and mental health" would probably the best title for such an article, with the "therapeutic" article condensed into one section. As it stands, the LaMH article still is about the Wash article. While it probably is a valuable source, it doesn't merit its own article, IMHO. --Randykitty (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Well here I mention that "Mental_health#Prevention_and_promotion seems to be the currently existing landing point for the topic we could call lifestyle and mental health. I speculate that that section is ripe for improvement and that another separate article on the topic isn't needed." The editor there appeared to agree. As someone who has improved and maintained a disease article for about a decade to WP:MEDRS sourcing requirements, I'm kind of thrilled at the idea of an article about an article giving a snapshot in time of medical / scientific / psychological thought. Similarly, I detest all the "Management of Z" articles (where "Z" = a disease) around here. Given the abstracts of [5] and [6], Randykitty, wouldn't you think an article on Lifestyle and Mental Health meets WP:GNG, similar to how books become notable through independent reviews? Personally, I think there should be a lot more articles about "articles" (books, clinical trials, articles, etc.) on this project, of course conforming to WP:GNG. Biosthmors (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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