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Evolving Digital Ecological Networks (licensing issues)

I appreciate the willingness to restore the page.

The following page was the first paper published in the new section called "Topic Pages" of the journal PLoS Computational Biology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_permutation_in_proteins

If you read the sentence at the beginning of the References section, you will see that it is the same text we wrote in our page:

This article incorporates text from an open access publication: Bliven, S.; Prlić, A. (2012). "Circular Permutation in Proteins". In Wodak, Shoshana. PLoS Computational Biology 8 (3): e1002445. doi:10.1371/journal.pcbi.1002445. PMC 3320104. PMID 22496628.

Please, in case of doubt contact Shoshana Wodak (Editor of the Topic Pages) to solve the licensing issue.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fortuna ebd (talk • contribs) 09:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


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Template:Euthanasia

Hello, Bilby:

On second thoughts, I agree with you. Thanks for removing. CsDix (talk) 10:03, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Admin

Hey. I'm sure you know that RfA is utter hell, but I've been looking for some good candidates, and one thing we could use more than anything else is another admin or two who is well-versed on copyright. Would you be willing to consider running? I'd have no problems nominating you. Personally I was convinced you were already an admin, was surprised to see you weren't. Wizardman 00:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly, but would leave the nomination to Wizardman. Lectonar (talk) 21:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the vote of confidence and thinking of me - it is a great compliment. :) I haven't run before because I always wanted to focus primarily on content creation, but it would be worth considering so that I could be more useful with the CCIs. The problem is really one of timing - the new semester just started, so I'm pretty focused on the new courses until they settle down. If it is still ok with you, I might need to put this aside for a few weeks until I know that everything is working smoothly for the students. - Bilby (talk) 12:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
That's fine; just let me know whenever you've decided you're ready to give it a shot. Wizardman 02:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Probably still interested, but I need to wait for a bit - last week I managed to dislocate my shoulder, so I'm waiting to see if I need an operation to repair the ligaments. I've been telling the students that it was a pro skateboarding accident, although they seem to doubt my word on that. The reality is that running for a bus is more dangerous than I would have expected. :) Anyway, once this is settled I'll be in a much better position. - Bilby (talk) 23:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I know I keep bugging you on this, but third time's a charm if your free time has finally returned. Wizardman 02:27, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I've thought about it a bit, and for various reasons this has ended up being interesting timing. (Not related to work, so much as things happening on-wiki). However, it is worth a shot, so yes, I'll give it a go. I don't expect it to be smooth or be guaranteed - I recall someone arguing once that after your first year or so of editing, the odds of passing drop quickly, and I know I've made a lot of mistakes over the years. Still, I've reached a point where I think I could do some good, so I'll see what happens, and hopefully at worst there will be some useful criticism to build on. - Bilby (talk) 14:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
I was just wondering when is this going active so I can support? AutomaticStrikeout  ?  23:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Today, I expect. I wanted to wait a couple of days to make sure when I re-read it I hadn't said anything stupid, but I got a bit sidetracked with my new coding project to analyse response times at RFPP (which has been fun to write). And thanks! - Bilby (talk) 02:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Looks good to me, go ahead and post it when you're ready. Wizardman 17:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

COI template

I have initiated a discussion at Village Pump Proposals regarding applying Template:COI editnotice more broadly, in order to provide advice from WP:COI directly onto the article Talk page. Your comment, support or opposition is invited. Cheers. CorporateM (Talk) 19:47, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thank You For Rescuing Puddle Duck Racer

The Article Rescue Barnstar
I want to thank Bilby for his extensive work he has done to clean up the Puddle_Duck_Racer wiki page. Reading other comments from Bilby, it appears he doesn't have a puddle duck, but he went ahead and spent extensive amounts of his personal time collecting references from across the web to include with the pdracer wiki page, cleaned up the text to make it professional, informative, concise and accurate. Due to the positive effort Bilby, the page has been saved from an attack by a deletionist with a personal bias against the duck, and surely the page in it's new form will be able to survive future attacks. People like Bilby are what makes Wikipedia the greatest information source in the world. In addition to that, the world wide puddle duck community shall benefit from Bilby's work. Many people talk of making the world a better place, this effort of Bilby is an example of a person actually doing that.

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Our GLAM project

Hi Bilby, you may be interested in the conversation I'm having with VedranaB on her talk page. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 02:24, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bilby, I think I'm missing your point, how was this web reference [1] a link violation? BTW, I found this [2], do you think this one is better? Apparently the actual Fort Worth Star-Telegram article is no longer on the newspaper website, but other websites have apparently archived it for posterity. Cheers. —Prhartcom (talk) 23:11, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi! The problem is that they haven't archived it, so much as copied it. This is an ongoing problem with some sites, such as rickross.com, who collect articles that are still under copyright without seeking permission from the copyright owners. While on the one had this does keep the articles accessible, it is nevertheless a copyright violation, and legally we become obligated to remove links to known copyright violations under US contributory copyright violation requirements. On the plus side, we can still provide the full bibliographic data, so other people can always track down the copies if that is what they are looking for. :) - Bilby (talk) 10:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

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Response to your message

Hi, Bilby. I'm thinking that perhaps you aren't observing the holiday. Carl Nivorous (talk) 03:08, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Bilby, I was editing Wikipedia to add an AFD for April Fools day since "there is no such thing as 'No Original Research'", and I completely messed it up....sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draconiator (talk • contribs) 04:53, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 8?

Any progress on your plans for Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 8? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

P.S. It's my opinion that you need to (or "should") do an archive of your talk page ... Pdfpdf (talk) 13:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I'll handle the archive this weekend. Better yet, probably time for a bot. :)
And yes, I did have the ok for everything, but didn't get it running before uni started. The frst few weeks have been pretty awful this year. That said, on Wednesday I'll confirm a new date and get it fixed. - Bilby (talk) 11:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
on Wednesday I'll confirm ... - Ummmmm. (Where?) Pdfpdf (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I placed a request for 27 North Terrace, 7:30pm on a Wednesday, and gave some dates. They'll email me back about which one is best from the uni's end, but said there was no problem. - Bilby (talk) 12:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
The second Wednesday of each month is out for me due to a clash with meetings of another group, and especially May 8. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 00:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Jolly good! I look forward to getting some information. Or failing that, some data. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
They got back to me yesterday. There's a group using the venue until 8:30 on Wednesdays, but Tuesdays are universally free. Would a Tuesday be ok? - Bilby (talk) 13:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
OK for whom? And how would one judge/determine this? i.e. Who is your target audience? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Second Tuesday is also out for me due to clash with another group's meetings. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 14:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm thinking third Tuesday then. And in regard to target audience, the aim was to have a potential regular venue and try for non-Wikipedians or new ones, as well as existing editors. - Bilby (talk) 13:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear God. (I'm unfamiliar as to how to address the highly exalted.)

What's the status of an Adelaide Wikipedia meetup? (It's too damn cold to stay at home by oneself these days.)
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:08, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Sorry:
P.S. Congratulations! (Seriously. Well done.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, Bilby. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Evan Mandery.The discussion is about the topic Evan Mandery. Thank you. Nick Levinson (talk) 16:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Help reviewing a new article

Hi Bilby, hope you don't mind me reaching out here, I saw your name on the list of participants at WikiProject Cooperation and wondered if you could help. I've recently researched and written a new article draft for Purple Strategies, an American communications firm that currently doesn't have a Wikipedia article. Because I've written this article on behalf of, and with input from, Purple Strategies I'm hoping to find editors who can review it to make sure that it is neutral and non-promotional. I've submitted the draft to AfC but since there's such a backlog there and their reviewers may not have experience with editors who have a COI, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look and move the article live for me if it is ready?

If you'd be able to review the article, the AfC entry is here: Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Purple_Strategies. If you need to make adjustments to the article, that's fine and please don't hesitate to ask any questions. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll try and have a look at it tonight. :) - Bilby (talk) 03:29, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi again! Were you able to take a look at the Purple Strategies proposed article? Let me know if you have any feedback, or, if you don't have time, let me know and I'll see if I can find someone else to take a look. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad to see someone else as able to pass it - I had a look, and started going through the refs, but an emergency at work over the last few days has been a problem. I think the lead is perhaps a bit too promotional, but overall it is very good. - Bilby (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Bilby, really appreciate you taking a look and I hope that your work emergency has been resolved. If you feel there are any tweaks needed to the intro, please feel free to make them. Meanwhile, I have recently submitted a new article at AfC that I was wondering if you would be interested in helping with if you have time. This article is for Mark Squier, an executive at Purple Strategies. As with the Purple Strategies article, I have written Mark Squier's article on behalf of the company. If you would like to check out the draft it is in my user space here: User:16912_Rhiannon/Mark_Squier Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 16:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
That looks good. I'll go through the sources after my lecture, as I'd like o be more helpful this time. :) - Bilby (talk) 01:30, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Bilby, thanks so much for your thorough review of the article and taking it live! Very much appreciate your help. I'm working on drafts for the other partners at Purple Strategies, so would love your help to review those if you have time once they're ready. I'll leave you a note once I have the next one in good shape for review, but I'll totally understand if you're working on other things. Thanks again! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 13:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

The Lightning Process

I am wondering you would consider taking another look at The Lightning Process which was previously nominated for deletion, in particular the long list of conditions/diseases it claims it can treat. I don't feel there is a strong enough warning that the Process is unproven. I would normally consider re-nominating for deletion but would like an independent view. Thanks FlatOut 03:39, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Animal Rights Lede

Hi. I kind of stumbled upon the 'Rights by claimants' portal today. I've never noticed it before. I decided to edit the opening of the article on fetal rights and to refer to the articles on animal rights and plant rights as guides. I left an explanation on the fetal rights talk page. Anyway, the formulation "Animal rights is the idea that..." struck me as strangely awkward until I saw your comment,

"The main problem is the statement "Animals are entitled to rights" as much of the debate has nothing to do with rights. Singer, for example, is not a rights advocate, and would deny that they exist."

Is the choice of words deliberate as a way to reflect that a rigorous consequentialist approach to ethics would not advocate rights at all (or at least not 'rights' as they're traditionally understood)? If so, might it be better to say, "Animal rights theory is the idea that..."?

OckRaz talk 20:22, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

That's a good thought. The main problem has been that the field is called animal rights, but generally the ethical frameworks are not rights-based. Reagan uses rights in a sense, but Singer would be opposed to the notion of rights. I guess the current wording is more to reflect the field as opposed to the arguments. I'll have to revisit the article again in light of your wording. :) - Bilby (talk) 13:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
I agree with your point regarding the phrase "rights to which animal may be entitled" and Singer. I also see your point that the value of the current wording in that 'animal rights' can be used to refer to the academic field of study (like 'women's studies') rather than the theories (like 'feminism'). I hope you agree with me though, that many people would say that 'animal rights', just like 'human rights' or 'parental rights refers to a particular set of rights which are believed to belong to a particular group of individuals or organisms (or what have you).
Perhaps the best solution is to use a conjunction: "Animal rights refers both to the rights to which animal may be entitled and to the field of ethics concerned with the moral status of animals." That formulation seems to me to address the technical problems, although I guess it is a little awkward from a writing style POV. What do you think? OckRaz talk 20:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
I think you've got a good approach - it is awkward, but in the end we may need to refer to both, although the article as a whole is pretty much firmly about the field of study rather than the notion of animals possessing rights. Do you think that it might be worth spinning of animal rights (in terms of rights theory) as a separate article? There's a lot that could be said about the topic. - Bilby (talk) 14:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Waterhouse

Hi Bilby, if you have the time and inclination could you please take a look at Tom Waterhouse and check out my last edit in the history, then my entries on More Joyous in Talk:Tom_Waterhouse ? I want to avoid an edit war but I believe the edit meets WP:BLP. Thanks, FlatOut 09:36, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll have a look, but that is one of the trickier problems. Generally I think it is a problem to have undue focus on allegations which proved to be nothing, as that causes more damage for the subject. However, if the allegations have a significant effect, then they can't reasonably be left out, as they become an important part of their life. - Bilby (talk) 13:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I am thinking of tackling it in a different way, under the existing section TomWaterhouse.com, noting that stewards have advised him to keep his business clearly separate from that of Gai Waterhouse in light of concerns raised by Singleton. Cheers FlatOut 01:29, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
That makes a lot of sense. :) When I finish teaching today I'll see if I can help at all. - Bilby (talk) 01:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Today's articles for improvement

Were you aware of the existence of this project? BOZ (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I heard of it. I really should get involved - improving articles is what I'm here for. :) I shall make it a goal to spend time on at least one article there per week. - Bilby (talk) 01:27, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
That's what I figured. BOZ (talk) 03:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Help with Alex Castellanos' article

Hi Bilby, if you're interested in reviewing another article for a Purple Strategies executive, I've written a draft that I'd like to suggest as a replacement for the current version of the Alex Castellanos article. I've explained some of the issues with the existing article on the talk page here and you can see the draft in my user space here: User:16912_Rhiannon/Alex_Castellanos Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 21:49, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi again, Bilby and congratulations on your Adminship! Although I'm sure you're super busy with all your new responsibilities, I wanted to let you know that I haven't yet had any feedback on the draft for Alex Castellanos, so if you are interested in reviewing that, I'd really appreciate it. I've also posted a new draft for an article about Steve McMahon, another Purple Strategies consultant, if you are interested in reviewing another new article. No pressure on either, let me know if you're able to help. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 21:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

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RFA statement

Do you think you could flesh out your reasons for needing the admin tools? The uninitiated likely have no clue what you guys do exactly, over at CCI. Just a thought. Good luck! Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 01:48, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! A good point - I focus so much on CCI that I tend to think that everyone knows of it, but in reality it is probably only a small number of edotrs who ever get involved. - Bilby (talk) 02:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Freelance paid editing study

Looking over your contributions for the RfA, and I noticed this: User:Bilby/Freelance paid editing study. That looks interesting. Do you have plans to finish it? SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:26, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but the analysis was put to one side, as this semester's teaching load has been heavy. I've finished cleaning the data, though, and done some initial analysis, so I should probably work on this while I'm collecting other data. :) - Bilby (talk) 09:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I'd be interested in seeing that when you've completed it. Would you please ping my talkpage to let me know when it's done? Regards SilkTork ✔Tea time 22:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Certainly. :) I'm a couple of weeks from the end of semester, so hopefully I'll be able to ping you soon. - Bilby (talk)

Special invitation

Hello Bilby. I noticed several edits that you made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Qworty clean-up; thank you for that. Interestingly no administrators have signed up for this task, which is fine; they are busy and we have a great group on non-administrators collaborating to get it done; correctly. It would be great if you would add your name as a non-admin participant; then as I suspect you'll soon become an administrator which is always good to have on board for this kind of endeavor. An admin that became an admin from within the project.--My76Strat (talk) 05:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll have a look. I didn't sign up initially as I wanted to see if I could help first, but I think I can help. It is a bit like a CCI, only with the advantage that a lot of time you're directly improving articles, rather than removing or rewriting problematic content, so it's a nice experience. :) - Bilby (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

CCI update

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Premature congratulations

I don't want to jinx you or anything, but at this point it would take a massive influx of opposes to knock you out.  ;) Don't worry about those; almost no one makes it in without someone needing to voice a negative opinion. Glad to have you aboard! BOZ (talk) 14:09, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! We'll see how it goes - I'm not too worried, as I think I can do good things with the tools, but at the same time there is still a lot of work to do without. :) So I'll be kept busy either way. I'm glad Col. Warden spoke - I have no problems with what he was saying, although I recall it a bit differently, and it is always good to have a reminder about not acting while involved. - Bilby (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
South Australia/UniSA represent :) Congrats! Daniel (talk) 08:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. :) It seems close enough now that I can view it as over. And it is great to see you around again. :) - Bilby (talk) 11:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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Congratulations

I've closed your RfA as successful (sorry for the delay!). Good luck with your new tools. Maxim(talk) 13:29, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Voilà! Your new uniform.

Workout_From_Within_with_Jeff_Halevy

Hi, First of all, congrats on the the successful RfA. Recently you tagged the titled article for notability issues. Please take a look at its talk page for my comment, and lets discuss on that. Thanks Patrol49 (talk) 10:45, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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Flickr/ RFC

Could you take a look at this talk page & chime in? Thanks. Jakerome (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Photo of the South Australia Aquatic and Leisure Centre

G'day Bilby, last month I put out a request for a photograph of the South Australia Aquatic and Leisure Centre. You kindly said that you would be able to do this. Any update? Let me know. Cheers -- Ianblair23 (talk) 05:21, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I went down there and took some shots, two of which are passable, but I was hoping I could get down there with a tripod this week and see what I can do then. Otherwise I'll upload one of the ones I have. - Bilby (talk) 05:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks Bilby! -- Ianblair23 (talk) 06:18, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Adam. I remember from your RFA that you have alot of copyright experience, so I hope you don't mind my coming to you with a question. I'm good with image copyright, but I don't have much experience with article copyright. I just got this question on my talk. The deleted article was sourced to http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1002928, which makes no statement of CC-BY-SA 3.0. The statement of apparent intention to free license the material is at http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1002446. For images, I usually look for a direct statement of an exact free license at the source. Any advice you could give on this would be appreciated. INeverCry 17:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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I wrote an article then realized two things. First, I'll be 90 in 3 months and the Wizard is too much for me. Second, I have a vested interest in it because I am the inventor Listou cited in the article's referenced patent. After it is published I have a list of cognitive scientists, and others, who I will invite to edit it. Are you willing to submit it, please? It is at execware.com/cdm.pdf.Rlistou (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Submit an article?

I wrote an article then realized two things. First, I'll be 90 in 3 months and the Wizard is too much for me. Second, I have a vested interest in it because I am the inventor Listou cited in the article's referenced patent. After it is published I have a list of cognitive scientists, and others, who I will invite to edit it. It is at www.execware.com/cdm.pdf. Are you willing to submit it, please? rlistou@execware.comRlistou (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Submit an article?

I wrote an article, execware.com/cdm.pdf,then realized two things. First, I'll be 90 in 3 months and the Wizard is too much for me. Second, I have a vested interest in it because I am the inventor Listou cited in the article's referenced patent. After it is published I have a list of cognitive scientists, and others, who I will invite to edit it. Are you willing to submit it, please? rlistou@execware.comRlistou (talk) 17:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Buddhist Terrorism

Hi, as i mention in my edit summary, i am working on its c/r contents, and once we restore it then only I shall read and re-write the contents. So now again i shall have to re-store it once again, as i am still not done with my edits. And once i am fenished then you may decide if that will still be c/r contents. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 15:03, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Mistaken paste

Thanks for removing it. Proxima Centauri (talk) 18:54, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter

Hey Bilby

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:

  • Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links [[./that look like this]] (50720)
  • Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (bugzilla:50423)
  • Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (bugzilla:50415)
  • The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
  • Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
  • Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
  • The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
  • Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
  • Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
  • The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
  • Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:20, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter

Hey Bilby! Another set of patches :). Today we have:

  • Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
  • Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
  • If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).
    You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:29, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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This Month in Education: July 2013



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VE newsletter

Hey Bilby; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

  • If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
  • If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
  • If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
  • sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
  • If you type at the end of links, they now extend
  • Templates now only take a single click to insert
  • Clear annotations clears links (50461)
  • The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
  • Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
  • Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
  • References made by tag:ref now display properly (bugzilla:50978)
  • The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
  • Feedbacl link goes to the right language (bugzilla:47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Black Gate

Hi, Bilby! :)

A while back you said you had some back issues of this sci-fi mag, and that they have reviews of D&D and other gaming books. What do you know, I did a search online, and they have an index at their home page.  :)

If you have any of these issues, would you want to help by adding something from the review?

BG #15 – if you have a copy of this, let me know and I fill find a place to put it for these 4th edition books:

  • Dark Sun Campaign Setting, Richard Baker, Robert J. Schwalb, and Rodney Thompson (Wizards of the Coast)
  • Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Sun Creature Catalog, Richard Baker, Bruce R. Cordell (Wizards of the Coast)

Let me know! BOZ (talk) 23:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure where I kept my copies. But I'll dig around during the week and try to track them down - I started trying to organise all my books some time back. but ended up doing an awful job of it. :) - Bilby (talk) 10:44, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Hah - I know the feeling. Great, let me know! :) BOZ (talk) 14:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Hey Bilby, did you have any luck finding those, or do you figure that's something you might not be able to get to in the near future? BOZ (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
They're in the back room - I've started working through it, and I might be able to make more progress tomorrow. :) Unfortunately, everything is boxed. I'll keep looking for a bit and see how I go. - Bilby (talk) 17:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Bilby. The newest updates:

  • Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
  • Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
  • You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
  • We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
  • You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
  • Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
  • FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
  • Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Articles deletion

Dear Bilby,

I apologize for the inconvenience, but have no other way than appealing for administrators’ help recover a deleted article.

I published a film article entitled Drits (Derivas), a film by Portuguese director Ricardo Costa. It is the second film from an autobiographic trilogy, Faraways. The article was kept untouched by several months. To my surprise, it was recently eliminated and redirected to the director’s page with no discussion. I undid the redirection, but saw the article was proposed to deletion. Reason: independent, verifiable, secondary resources. I argued that the article couldn’t have but primary sources (the producer’s ones) as it is an upcoming film, like many others listed at upcoming films. A film that has not yet been premiered or distributed may not be commented. Besides, none of the films so listed has ever been deleted or even contested.

At last, in discussion, user User:reddogsix proposed that the article should be renamed to Drifts (film) or similar, and at the same time put at the disambiguation page of Dritf this reference «Drifs, unreleased film by Ricardo Costa (filmmaker). I created a new page for the same article entitled Drifts (Portuguese film). As the semantic root “drift” seemed to be the problem, I replaced the article name to Derivas (Drifts) and published it once more with some improvements. As a result, the article was fast deleted and I blocked for three days.

In the meantime, a new article about the trilogy was published: Faraways, which was proposed to fast deletion as well by the same user, User:reddogsix.

Although unreleased, although having no reliable secondary sources, Drifts is unquestionably an outstanding film for its uniqueness and characteristics: autobiography, comedy, docufiction, metafiction in one. I guess that “outstanding” may be a synonym for “notable” in such cases and that articles like this shouldn’t be deleted without previous cared analyses: important information may be lost.

This sequence of interventions is clearly a personal attack by User:reddogsix, supported by two or three user friend. It has no other explanation. It contributes in nothing to improve articles quality. Mists article, which I created on 10 September 2010, is the latest example. The article structure was unreasonably modified, loosing clarity and useful content.

NOTE: sent to 30 administrators.

Thanks for your attention, User:Tertulius 20:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

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Pyramid online reviews

Hi there, Bilby. I noticed that at one time [3], you had access to the Pyramid archives at Steve Jackson's website. If you still have access, would you like to help out with reviews on D&D articles? I have checked for where the reviews were already cited, and added more where they were needed. The main thing I would need help with would be to add the name of the reviewer in most cases, and that we fix the citation template. Additionally, if you have the time and inclination, you could go through the review and see if there are any additional bits worth mentioning in our article, it would help out a ton if you would do that. Here is a sampling of articles that I would suggest you take a look at for starters:

If those all look good to you already, or if you just want to see what else there is, you can check out my full list of Pyramid's online reviews. Thanks! BOZ (talk) 15:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

They might be a bit harder, but I'll look. Before Pyramid was shut down (and prior to being revived again) I was given the chance to download the archives, so I might have that on one of the old HDs. On the plus side, I had some luck with Black Gate on the weekend. I'll go through that shortly now that I have the right box. :) - Bilby (talk) 15:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Great, I can't wait! :) BOZ (talk) 04:23, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Once I survive giving today's lecture I should be set to work on this. Why they gave a Perl programmer a web2py course to teach is a bit of a mystery to me, but I'm getting there. :) - Bilby (talk) 04:30, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Sweeet. :) Did you survive the experience?  ;)
That one. Now I have four more lectures to give. I know the field, it's just that as a Perl programmer I dislike Python, and the students know it. :) Which makes for an entertaining time. - Bilby (talk) 04:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh wow, best of luck to you!  ;) BOZ (talk) 02:13, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, Bilby, any luck with finding Pyramid or Black Gate yet? :) BOZ (talk) 17:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes to both. :) I'll start trying to add them in later this week. - Bilby (talk) 16:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Bilby, anything I can do to help? BOZ (talk) 17:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your recent contributions to Birthright Campaign Setting and The Forge of Fury - I'm glad you are still able to get access to your archive. :) Another user offered to share the archive with me, but I haven't heard back from him yet. Do you have anything else to share? :) BOZ (talk) 19:44, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I did receive a copy of the full archive, so I can handle getting the rest of that, sooner or later.  :) Bilby, would you let me know when we are able to get a look at the reviews from Black Gate that I mention above? That would help out a lot more.  :) BOZ (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I'll get onto the Black Gate reviews. btw, I also have Series 3 of Pyramid, so I've been sorting through them for anything relevant as I go, and isolated issues of Series 1. - Bilby (talk) 14:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013

Quick tip: Need to wikilink a word in VisualEditor? Select the word and type Control+k or ⌘ Command+k to enter VisualEditor's link tool without taking your hands off the keyboard. See Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Keyboard shortcuts for more time-saving keyboard shortcuts.

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (T54012), scrolling (T54014) and deleting (T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

  • Re-ordering links to the editors to put "Edit source" first and VisualEditor second
  • Renaming the link for VisualEditor to "Editbeta"
  • Disabling the animation for section editing.
  • Changing all labels for the classic wikitext editor to say "Edit source", regardless of namespace.

There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:

  • Horizontal alignment of images working correctly on more pages (T53995)
  • Categories with ':'s in their names (like Category:Wikipedia:Privacy) now work correctly (T53902)
  • Magic JavaScript gadgets and tools like sortable tables will now work once the page is saved (T53565)
  • Keyboard shortcut for "clear annotations" - now Control+\ or ⌘ Command+\ (T53507)
  • Fixed corruption bugs that led to duplicate categories (T54238) and improper collapsing when multiple new references were added in a row (T54228).
  • Improvements to display elements: The save dialog in Monobook is restored to normal size (T52058), pop-up notices on save now look the same in VisualEditor as in wikitext editor (T41632), and the popup about using wikitext has a link to the definition of wikitext that now opens in a new window (T54093)

Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:25, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Re undo on Catholic_sex_abuse_cases 21:50, 7 August 2013

hi, why did you revert this? I'm new & not sure what "rv - copyvio/overly close parapgrasing" means Cbommm (talk) 11:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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Dragonism and archive

1. How is a user determined to be a WikiDragon, considering their rarity? Is it based on community feedback or self image?
2. Your talk page is very long and perhaps it would be a good time to create another archive.
3. How are you?
MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

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Ugg boots rearing it's head again

Phoenix and Winslow is using the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement case[4] in an attempt to get me banned by making extensive use of my editing at Ugg boots as evidence of bad behavior. Specifically "WLRoss eventually became aggressively involved in the content dispute against Phoenix and Winslow and other editors at Ugg boots and related articles in October 2011, and continued the content dispute for the next two years" and the recent "improper closure" Rfc at the Ugg boots trademark dispute article. I'm not asking you to comment as I think the diffs I posted speak for themselves but I thought this dispute may interest you. Wayne (talk) 15:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Did you know? Parsoid is a tool that translates between the raw wikitext that Wikipedia articles are stored in, and the HTML/RDFa that VisualEditor uses on your screen. If you see chess pawn (♙) or snowman (☃) icons in an article, it usually means that Parsoid has encountered something confusing in the wikitext markup. Please report these problems to Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (T52749) or in image captions (T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (T54113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (T53565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

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August 26 2013 PhotoSensitive (Organization)

Hi Bilby, Thank you for approving the PhotoSensitive (organization) page. I would like to improve it further and would like advice on where it is best to start. WilPatrick (talk) 12:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

need a WikiAmbassador for my class

Hi! My name is Chris Sheetz and I teach an Information Literacy course at a community college in Ohio, USA. I would like my students to edit stub or start articles for their class project. I need a WikiAmbassador to guide me in this adventure. Would you be willing to help us out? Csheetz (talk) 15:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)csheetz

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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Teaching/course Ambassador

Yes, I still need a course ambassador. Here is a link to my Course Page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:Lorain_County_Community_College/RSCH_150:_Information_Research_Techniques_(Fall_2013_8A)

Let me know if you would be willing to help me and my students. Csheetz (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC) I currently have only 6 students and as the term goes on, some may disappear. I will introduce the project next week (our Week #3) and then they will be progressing through the tasks each week, to finish by Oct 20. Csheetz (talk) 15:57, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana

Hi, Bilby, Thank you for helping with the issues with this article. I have a question: Why did you protect this particular version? I have been trying to bring neutrality to this article for some time and I have provided independent sources and documents + made the effort to explain everything on the talk page. The people behind the article do not let me add the facts they don't like and keep on coming back with sock puppets, some of which blocked for personal attacks and attempted outing of an editor. Bulgarian community in NYC is familiar with the problems this organization has - "Gergana" has been left by 25 out of 30 families because of that. In the current version all the information about the controversy is deleted as well as the only independent sources to the article and the section is pushed to the back. Also the "History" section is incorrect- this organization used to belong to the community before the people behind the article took over. I suspect the editor behind this article is paid by the organization and is writing about him/herself, family members and friends in it. Just trying to understand. Thanks for paying attention advance,

Star Gazer 13 (talk) 16:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13


Saw you note on the talk page of the article after the fact. I have to admit it is disheartening to say the least. After all the efforts I made to stick to the rules, I can not even add my independent sources to the article. Star Gazer 13 (talk) 16:22, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

Did you know?

You can search for images directly in VisualEditor. Click the media icon, which looks like this:

Then type a few keywords into the search box. VisualEditor will search Commons for images or other files whose titles or descriptions contain those words, and will display thumbnail pictures of them for your review. Click one time on the image you want to insert in the article.

For more details, read VisualEditor's user guide.

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:46, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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This Month in Education: September 2013



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The youth of today?

11 edits before someone did the obvious thing! Well, at least you noticed and did it!! Pdfpdf (talk) 06:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013

Did you know?

You can edit a page's categories in VisualEditor. Click the "Page settings" button (next to Cancel/Save) in the toolbar to open the category tool. It will show you a list of the current categories for that page.

To add a category, type the name of the category you want to add in the search field. To remove an existing category, click on the category in the list and then, in the dialog that opens, click on the "Remove" icon (trash can). "Options" will allow you to set a default sorting key.

For more details, read VisualEditor's user guide.

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

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Hi Bilby. Just a courtesy note regarding 2 proposed changes that have been left on the OHP discussion page all day if interested in commenting further? If not will go ahead. thanks Mrm7171 (talk) 05:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, In case you've reported it somewhere, I just nuked that edit you reverted on BLP grounds. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:01, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I wasn't sure if it should be rev del'ed or not, but it seems like a good call to me. - Bilby (talk) 19:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin

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Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary

Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary Could you please discuss before blindly reverting as you usually do and again, 'without any discussion,' only days after dispute resolution and with obvious editor conflicts on the OHP article. I would appreciate it if you undid your revert please Bilby. So we may have a civil discussion first. My addition is factual and based on a reliable source. I will not engage in edit warring and therefore have not reverted it again. Thank you.Mrm7171 (talk) 13:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it was necessary. - Bilby (talk) 13:26, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
How was pointing out with a reliable source, that the Society for Occupational Health Psychology is a paid or commercial 'sponsor' of a conference. Wikipedia is about facts and reliable sources. Any organization, if they pay money to sponsor someone or something can put their name to it. Why do you not want Wikipedia readers to know the truth that this Society for Occupational Health Psychology pays' for all of its publicity?Mrm7171 (talk) 00:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
This is better handled on the talk page. At pointed out there, though, you have not provided a source stating that they are a paid sponsor. You have presented a source stating that they are a co-convenor of the conference, and a sponsor along with the two other co-convenors. This does not necessarily entail that the sponsorship is financial. - 00:45, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The American Psychological Association has confirmed that the sponsorship was 'paid' for financially. That is the Society for Occupational Health Psychology pays money for all their publicity. The reliable source was actually clearly posted on the talk page too? In fact, I just used the single word sponsor in the article, not even sponsor (commercial) as you insisted. I was wondering why it was deleted without any discussion or reasons provided, that's all? Here it is again http://www.apa.org/wsh/ and sponsors are clearly on the right hand side. It is just one word? Why do you and other members and affiliates of the OHP society, desperately not want readers to know the truth that Society for Occupational Health Psychology pays money for their publicity? That's okay, you are probably also connected to the Society for Occupational Health Psychology similar to all of the other editors? That's your business Bilby. That's fine, will continue this discussion on the talk page then. Probably better that you also don't post on my talk page then, like you have been doing in the past. That would be appreciated too. Thanks.Mrm7171 (talk) 02:27, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
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