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Portraits of Odaenathus FA nomination
I think you mean the word "antiquities" (not "ambiguities") in the last sentence; English is a strange language 
. Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 14:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Miniapolis. I actually meant ambiguities (plural of ambiguity?). It is an ambiguous topic, and the artifacts discussed in the article are not famous, so I used the word ambiguities (which is a wierd word, so I changed the text anyway)--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you today for the article about the ancient Syrian city, "a unique city and a melting pot between the East and the West. Its warrior queen Zenobia left a lasting romantic impression in the minds of classical writers and its ruins are (were) one of the best preserved from the Roman era. Sadly, a monstrous militia (ISIS) is destroying it piece by piece."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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Thank you today for Demetrius III Eucaerus, "about a little known late Seleucid king of Syria, whose successes were surprising considering how weak the dynasty was in its last days. His appearance in Judea and defeat of it king, which practically opened the road to Jerusalem for him, left enough impact that he appeared in one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Demetrius III is an interesting king and one of the last Seleucids of any military reputation."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you today for Antiochus XI Epiphanes, introduced: "When Alexander the Great died, his generals split his empire, and the Hellenistic period started. The Seleucid empire is probably the most intriguing polity that rose out of Macedon, but its weakness was the civil wars between its princes. The last civil war began when two rival half-brothers, Antiochus VIII and Antiochus IX died in 96 and 95 BC respectively. For the next decade, Syria was split between six kings, five sons of Antiochus VIII and the son of the IX. This article is about Antiochus XI, the king who enjoyed the shortest reign, yet, like most members of his dynasty, his story is a pleasure to read, despite having only few coins and couple of short lines in the works of ancient historians mentioning him." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you today for Alexander II Zabinas, introduced: "A BC version of the Wars of the Roses, the Later half of the Seleucid Empire's era was chaotic. In short, two branches of the royal family fought for the throne and the period was full of intrigues and strong queens. Alexander II was the last claimant of the Antiochus IV's line, the infamous king behind Hanukkah. History is written by the victor, and that is why the legitimacy of Alexander II was always questioned ..."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
... and today for Antiochus XII Dionysus, introduced: "History is a witness to countless moments where a leader was so close to victory then lost all due to a miscalculation and perhaps stupid courage which lead him to fight in the front lines, getting killed in the process, leading his army to disband and his enemy to prevail. This is the summary of Antiochus XII's mistake. This king was an energetic ruler who seemed to be on the path of regaining the Seleucid Empire’s long lost prestige. He defeated Judea and came close to defeating the Nabataeans."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
... and today for Portraits of Odaenathus, introduced: "Odaenathus king of Palmyra is a much celebrated figure in Roman history, credited with saving the Empire from the Persian monarch Shapur I. Sadly, we do not know how he looked like, but we do have portraits that are more likely to represent him than others. Some of those sculptures are lost, and we only have photos of them. This article traces every single possible depiction of the king, and clarify what portraits do not represent him despite being promoted as such more than the ones that might be actual depictions. The article is definitely for lovers of obscure artifacts and antiquities"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Am I missing something? When I click on the link for the Andreas Kropp source, the chapter starts on page 199 and ends at 216, yet the sourcing in the article states page 30?
Sorry to bother you, but you were the only editor I recognized that has edited the article.
- Kropp, Andreas (2010). Earrings, nefesh and opus reticulatum: self-representation of the royal house of Emesa in the first century AD in: Kingdoms and Principalities in the Roman Near East. Stuttgart: Franz Steiner Verlag. p. 30. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Hey Kansas Bear. Seems that there was a mistake with the page number. Its page 203, footnote 28. I corrected this.
- Cool. Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia_talk:Policies_and_guidelines#Style --Brogo13 (talk) 11:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- So its your personal preference. The prose of Demetrius III is the result of extensice review (hence consensus), and was copy-edited not by me but by expert editors, so please leave that alone.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 12:42, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Its (sic) the result of my extensice (sic) review ... Please. --Brogo13 (talk) 01:41, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Attar-Aram syria, just wanted to say that I read through some of your Portraits of Odaenathus and have thoroughly enjoyed it. I love to see articles like this, it reminds me of Lost operas by Claudio Monteverdi or the draft I've been slowly working on Lost works by Leonardo da Vinci in that only on Wikipedia could articles like these be easily found and accessed. Best of luck on the rest of your FAC (Although it looks like it's nearing the end!). - Aza24 (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Aza24, Im flattered. Great work you are doing there as well!--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 15:37, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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Hello again, how are you? I wish if you can check my new article Nabataeans of Iraq and viewed if there are any mistakes, and thank you --FPP (talk) 23:45, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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Why did you remove sources of numeral sitting professors and university lecturers?
You can edit the text but not remove info. A PhD candidate with no google entry is no match for several sitting professors.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 18:43, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- I can? As I said on the talk page where you opened a discussion: West Kurdistan is not a universal concept. When you say its regarded as part of Kurdistan, you need to specify by whom. You are changing an agreed version of the text without consensus in an article under the sanctions, and this wont pass. If you cant reach a consensus, you can open an rfc, but not take one sided measures.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 18:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Syrian Kurdistan
Hi there, I have opened two Noticeboard discussions, one at the RSN and one at the NPOVN, adverted of both discussion at the Syrian Kurdistan talk page and you didn't take part in one of them. Now just accept 20 academic reliable sources over your personal view that there doesn't exist a Syrian Kurdistan. There is no reliable source which denies an existence of Kurds in present day Syria in regions adjacent to the the others commonly accepted cultural region of Kurdistan. If there exists one, we'll be pleased to read it.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:45, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Man, we cant solve this anymore. I started an rfc, I hope that neutral editors will come, and in the end an admin will take the decision. Please explain your points there like Im doing (not as a reply to me, because an rfc is more of every guy saying what he have and not a long debate like we have been doing for months now). I wanna end this and take that stupid page off my watch list asap. Cheers--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- We have had several discussions over this in which you have not participated, and brought up a new RfC, after you did not want to accept multiple academic sources brought in by an editor not majorly involved in Syrian or Kurdish articles + other sources (with page numbers as you requested) brought in by me for Syrian Kurdistan and want to include the term Syrian Kurdistan in a RfC where you also include the terms "Western Kurdistan" and "Rojava" which were not part of the dispute before.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- The place to discuss Syrian Kurdistan is on its talk page not my page or wherever you went. On the talk page of Syrian Kurdistan I was clear and participated fully. You have no consensus and thats it! Period! Your academic sources support that Kurds and many scholars are convinced that there is a Kurdistan in Syria, but they dont render this as a universal fact. The opposition is still there and many sources support that the existence of Kurdistan in Syria is contested. Even if the rfc decides that the lead will say that Syrian Kurdistan is the part of Kurdistan in Syria, a new sourced paragraph will immediately follow to explain how this is not universal and contested. You simply cant have it your way! P.s. using mehrdad izady as ab academic source for Kurds while he is a Kurdish nationalist who claimed that Pontus was a Kurdish state!! I havent yet say a word about these sources, but it will come. Until then, please refrain from editing as you wish before getting a consensus.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 14:53, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- We have had several discussions over this in which you have not participated, and brought up a new RfC, after you did not want to accept multiple academic sources brought in by an editor not majorly involved in Syrian or Kurdish articles + other sources (with page numbers as you requested) brought in by me for Syrian Kurdistan and want to include the term Syrian Kurdistan in a RfC where you also include the terms "Western Kurdistan" and "Rojava" which were not part of the dispute before.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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Syrianophobia
Hey I would like to talk with you about the phenomenon of Syrianophobia in Wikipedia OhioanRCS (talk) 10:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Lots of celebrities have Syrian origins but Wikipedia editors seem to be suffering from Syrianophobia For example porphyry the philosopher Lots of reliable sources admit his Syrian race such as britannica and much more But Wikipedia’s editors just want to neglect that Porphyry’s birth place isn’t confirmed some say in Tyre and others say in Batanaea [in modern Syria] I can give you tons of sources that admit his Syrian race. You can type on google: porphyry well to do Syrian parents and then go to books sections and you’ll see - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Porphyry-Syrian-philosopher
And much more sources. Note that he can be both Syrian and Phoenician just like the Syrophoenician woman OhioanRCS (talk) 10:18, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- I am not sure what I should do here?--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I’m shedding the light on this phenomenon for example although there are lots of books that do mention Julia domina as a Syrian empress Julia domina isnt mentioned as a Syrian empress in Wikipedia -ibn al shatir, Ibn al nafis Apollodorus aren’t mentioned as being Syrians in Wikipedia Léo v the Arminian is mentioned in the primary sources as having some Syrian ancestry but someone deleted it, you can check the editing history of Leo v the Arminian there is a Phoenician fanatic named Chris O' Hare he’s conducting a campaign of stripping the Syrian ethnicity from Syrian figures see Hanna Diab editing history
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Request for a new article
Hello Attar-Aram syria, can you please help in writing an article about Sunqur Al-Ashqar. He has been mentioned in several articles, hence, it would be easy to collect what is written there. Any initiative would be much appreciated. 89.165.2.93 (talk) 14:45, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Hello. Please use the talk page to make suggestions. The proposed decision page may only be edited by arbitrators and clerks. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 20:44, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry Dreamy Jazz, I did not know this.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have moved the comments you made into your own section on the talk page. I would also note that you can only edit within your own section on the talk page. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 20:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry Dreamy Jazz, I did not know this.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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Omar Hamoui
Hi there
Omar Hamoui is an entrepreneur and the founder of AdMob which is one of the largest mobile advertising on earth. He sold it to google in 2009 for $750 million. He’s doing many other things. He has a net worth of $300 million. Yet, he has no Wikipedia article. When I tried to write a one for him I saw that there were two attempts to write about him. Oxforder (talk) 11:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
So if you can write that article it would be appreciated. If not I’ll try to write it myself. Thank you anyway. Oxforder (talk) 11:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello. I was wondering whether you might be able to help with an inconsistency in this article. The votes according to the source do not add up. I suspect the book may have calculated the 'against votes' by deducting the votes for Shishakli (which seem to be mentioned by a few sources) from the total votes cast, forgetting that this figure would also include the invalid votes. Would you be able to find any Arabic sources that might help clarify? Cheers, Number 57 18:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Antiochus XII Dionysus
Dear Attar-Aram syria. Congratulations for today's FA: Antiochus XII Dionysus! I was especially interested by the family tree and the way how you presented it and handled the needed citations. I feel that most royal and aristocratic biographies should have family trees. It is a clever idea to have the citations separated and included in the collapsible panel holding the tree as you did because backlinks from citations outside the panel do not work when the panel is closed. I should perhaps have done it like that. You might want to have a look at how I do family trees, e.g. at Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty. Best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 10:07, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind words Johannes Schade. Your family tree is also great in my opinion.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 00:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you today for the article, introduced: "Many ambiguous characters appeared during history, and I think that king Antiochus X is one of the most intriguing ones. All we have of him are few coins and short passages in the works of ancient historians; the earliest is the Jewish historian Josephus who lived a 150 years after Antiochus X. Yet, the works of modern historians, linguists and numismatists have greatly expanded our knowledge about this ruler who, at the age of 20 (max) was able to avenge his killed father, face four of his cousins who tried to destroy him, and still have energy and a good judgment to leave the petty dynastic feuds behind to stand against one of the most powerful empires of his time, Parthia."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you today for Seleucus VI Epiphanes, introduced (in 2018): "A king so horrible that he was burned alive by his subjects. Thats what ancient historians wrote about Seleucus VI, and this reputation became dominant and many modern historians believed it. Whether this was the case or not, we will not know for certain since we have fragmentary sources and some coins to establish the career of Seleucus VI, who, non the less, was able to put an end to his uncle and rival to the throne; a feat that Seleucus's father could not achieve during a civil war that lasted 17 years." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
You might be interested
GPinkerton was indeffed on Eng.wiki and Arbcom sanctioned as far as I can see?[1] It would seem he's trying to involve himself with the same topics that got him banned, but now on Commons.[2] Looks to me like an attempt at circumventing pretty serious sanctions. - LouisAragon (talk) 12:47, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- That guy.... Talk about obsession. Maybe we can report him to the ArbCom but Im not sure his ban extends outside Eng Wiki. In any case, this wont look good when he will try to come back to Wiki in less than a year.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 20:29, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- His edits at Commons have a direct impact on Eng.Wiki; therefore, IMO, it should be reported to the involved admins here (you probably know better which ones). He's clearly trying to circumvent his block by choosing a different (albeit strongly related) venue to push for a certain POV. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:28, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Added some more information to this section.[3] If you've got more excerpts at your disposal, feel free to add them. Although Izady is already marked as unreliable at WP:RSN, IMO its valuable to add information about his works on his own page as well (while paying attention to WP:BLP obviously). - LouisAragon (talk) 10:48, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- His edits at Commons have a direct impact on Eng.Wiki; therefore, IMO, it should be reported to the involved admins here (you probably know better which ones). He's clearly trying to circumvent his block by choosing a different (albeit strongly related) venue to push for a certain POV. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:28, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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Levantine Arabic FAC
Hi Attar-Aram, I nominated Levantine Article for FAC. As you contributed to articles related to the Levant, I thought you could be interested in reviewing this nomination. Thanks for any help you can provide. A455bcd9 (talk) 09:14, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Question regarding Ebla
Since you wrote most of the longer articles pertaining to Ebla on wikipedia, I'd like to ask if you think it would make sense to make a separate page regarding Eblaite religion and pantheon? I'm currently slowly working on pages of various Eblaite deities, but some do not have enough attestations to warrant full articles, while other information is difficult to fit into articles focused just on one deity. There is no shortage of credible sources, and at the moment the closest wikipedia has to offer is the solid, if brief, summary in the Ebla article, and I guess the rather questionable article Canaanite religion with various redirects making it into some sort of "pan-Syrian" wastebasket... On a similar note, do you think a separate category for Eblaite deities is justified? HaniwaEnthusiast (talk) 20:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Very nice work! I think there is much to be written about the Eblaite religion so a seperate article is warranted as well as a category of Eblaite deities. I planned to do this a long time ago as well as bringing Ebla to FA but got too busy with my study that I rarely have time for Wiki. If you need any help dont hesitate to ask though by the look of it, it doesnt seem you will need any. Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 13:46, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello
Hello. In the source that i put from a book by Cambridge University it says that Vaballathus was an Arab and his name is also Arab, I don't understand why it was removed? Reem898 (talk) 20:44, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hey Reem898. I replied here Talk:Vaballathus#Arab.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 20:56, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Allat
Are there any other people who worship Allat other than the Arabs? Reem898 (talk) 18:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- By the Chaldeans. Also in Carthage by the Phoenicians under the name Allatu see here. In addition, the word itself is like Ba'al (the god), meaning "the goddess" and applied to Ashirah and Athirat see here. Ofcourse, Allat of Palmyra is Arab, brought to the city by the Arab part of the population which mixed with the Arameans and Amorites to form the Palmyrenes. Hence, Allat was worshipped by all.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 19:53, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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Precious anniversary
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Thank you today for Philip I Philadelphus, "about a little known king reigning Syria at the end of the once great Seleucid empire. He was one among four contenders for the throne, all of them managed to rule some parts of the country! Yet, despite his humble role in history, Rome found it fit to maintain his image on the coins of its Syrian province for fifty years: so he must have left an impression in the region."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi
Do you have sources when the sanjaks have been replaced by governorates? Panam2014 (talk) 04:29, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Im not very familiar with the Ottoman administrative units but I know that each vilayet (governorate) consisted of several sanjaks, so the sanjaks were never replaced by governorates.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 13:30, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- And thé administration under french mandate? Panam2014 (talk) 05:20, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Zenobia/Odaenathus edits
Yep, believe it or not I completely forgot we'd already been around this bend before. My mistake! Thanks for the reverts. Zhomron (talk) 17:46, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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