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TMM anime minor characters list
I think we should add something like that. There isn't much of them, actually, for not all episodes have a victim-of-the-day, and I can't remember all of these characters without watching the whole series, but I'll be able to add them later. Just tell me where to place this stuff.
Also, after watching the final credits for several episodes, I came to the conclusion that using the middle dot for separating the last name and the first name looks odd. They usually do such things only with non-Japanese names that are written in katakana. Japanese names written in kanji/hiragana have just spaces. Anyway, I've never seen the middle dot used in Japanese names. (Again, looked at the "Sailor Moon" articles, there are no middle dots used.)
Tired of fixing Lettuce's 碧 midori kanji in the articles... someone is constantly changing it to 緑. Maybe add some note about this, too? (Geez, two kanji for "blue", two kanji for "green"... and how am I supposed to finish learning Japanese after all this?..)
...And can you explain to me how to read that "Japanese name pronunciation" thing in the aliens' (and some other) articles? I don't know how, and I don't think all TMM fans know it...
Well, if anything, it is here: A list of Tokyo Mew Mew anime minor characters. I think it is way too long for a section in the main article, needs a separate page.
Another thing that always gets changed... Mickey's name... again, nobody knows how it's written in the manga... I added the katakana for the name, but do people really pay attention to such things?......
If that continues, we'll have to insert manga pictures for everything...
WOW!!! And if after that somebody else will say something against "reborn"...
Tried to search for the meaning of "aka" here...
The word "check" with a long vowel... yes, but it's only in one of Ichigo's attacks. All other attacks do not contain words that can be written differently in katakana, and they also say "reborn".
*Points on this link again* Is it even worth adding to the article?
I think I'll be adding the info for some time, as I watch random TMM episodes, but it'll be good if somebody else helps me with this list, as I've only seen the original anime, so I can't add info from MMP and other dubs. I believe MMP has some alterations other than renaming, as 4Kids seems to like changing characters' personality... Also, the list is not complete. I didn't include some other characters. I can take screenshots from the episodes with all these characters, only I'm afraid that my computer will be against uploading files again... I now can try to use another Internet connection, maybe it'll help, but I don't really know how to upload files to Wikipedia, what to write in the descriptions of the files.
Remember how I mentioned something about Hotaru desktop wallpaper? ^_^;; Yes, I know, it's a lame present, but I just don't know how to thank Ian Miller for help... Since he likes Hotaru...
Hotaru/Saturn desktop wallpaper
I originally made this for my Sailor Moon fansite.
- If only it isn't specifically said anywhere in the notes in the original manga that "reborn" was supposed to be a pun on "ribbon", we can't say for sure, even though the attacks do contain other puns. I mean, Sailor Saturn's "Death Reborn Revolution" does involve ribbons, so in that case the pun is obvious. The Mews do not use ribbons, so even if it is a pun, it is unclear what it refers to; the only possible version is the opening song, but then it can apply only to the anime, while all these attacks actually first appeared in the manga.
Not sure if it does count... In episode 11, there is a TV show named "Ani-Ani-Animal", and it's title is shown written at one point.
The translation of the katakana is from a fansub; I decided to choose a picture where this line is shown, to show how the word is translated.
- *throws Imperial March on in background* I don't want to barge on your conversation, but I guess 4kids killed that off [1] (the name Ani Ani Animal) and changed it to Wild World of Wilderness... --Addict 2006 01:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Chimera Anima response and more
I usually prefer that the Chimera Anima spelling correction to be above Trivia rather than above History. By the way, I did see your note about you trying to find Chimera Anima manga scans as well as more info about them.
It will try to start a page called "List of minor characters in Tokyo Mew Mew" soon. I've seen the Japanese episodes (with subtitles) on YouTube once. Rtkat3 (User talk:Rtkat3) 8:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm...
Well, I'm currently watching random TMM episodes, trying to write out the characters' names in kanji/kana from the ending credits, and I've noticed something interesting. I have yet to watch episodes 45-52 to see what was done there, but it'll be after I finish with the minor characters list.
At first I thought that the Blue Knight's name doesn't appear in the credits at all (which didn't surprise me). Then I found some episodes (one of them is episode 19, for example) where his name is shown there (the same way as Deep Blue's, with a question mark instead of Megumi Ogata's name). The interesting thing is that in this episode, Masaya himself (in his normal form) does not appear. If both Masaya and the Blue Knight appear, only Masaya is mentioned. I think the reason for that is that the Blue Knight is considered just a form of Masaya, not an independent character. (And, if anything, Ryou's name is shown in episode 19, even though we're supposed to think that he's the Blue Knight. It's... just... a hidden spoiler!!!)
Now Deep Blue... I don't know about the last episodes yet (after his awakening), but in the first episodes he is always mentioned in the credits, along with Masaya. He first goes as "Mysterious voice" (謎の声 Nazo no koe), then, after his name is revealed, as "Deep Blue" (ディープブルー Dīpu Burū).
Can't say about the last episodes yet, but I believe that somewhere in the middle of the story (say, episode 27) his name disappears from the credits, though I'm not sure. I just remember that there was something weird, too. Maybe they just forgot to mention him... Though I kinda remember Deep Blue's name in one of the last episodes, where his identity has already been revealed, and Megumi Ogata was listed in the credits as his seyuu... For sure I'll need to examine this thing better... I need to understand whether Deep Blue is really treated as a separate character or not...
Believe or not, someone got confused by... Ichigo's age mistake! Guess we need a better explanation of this one... Yume no Kishi
Unfortunately, the person who tried to remove Ichigo's age explanation started doing it at the wrong time, when I couldn't explain anything properly. This is just another proof of how much confusion is there.
Strange, because if you read Ichigo's talk page, seems that the person was confused by the "chuu-ichi" thing from Ichigo's intro, but then somehow ended up saying that the TE section is not an appropriate place for this stuff... Yume no Kishi
Then again, if you see the history of the page, this person first deleted this thing and claimed it's OR and called it silly, and then tried to explain why. These things annoy me. Yume no Kishi
I got really tired of trying to explain to that person why we keep Ichigo's age mistake in the TMM article. Those who change her age in the TMM article do not even read this section, so do you think they would read something in another article? How to convince the person that it is worth mentioning. Yume no Kishi
Since the whole TE section is still marked OR, I see no reason for deleting anything from it. I now have some problems with Internet, so I don't know if I'll be able to edit it the next day or two. Please try to find any proof for Ichigo's age. Yume no Kishi
The TE section
Well... I just hope you won't get a heart attack upon seeing my edits to this stuff. Perfectblue97 just could not explain properly from the very beginning what was wrong, and since I automatically see all people who delete stuff from the TE section without explanation as vandals, I probably wouldn't have read it either, since the explanation came after deleting stuff. And I still insist that this should be merged with "International Adaptations of Tokyo Mew Mew"; it just attracts way too much attention when it's in the main article.
"I'm having computer issues so I wont be able to edit on wikpedia so swiftly....I'll try to explain to that person "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 20:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Didn't perfect blue say something how he wasn't debating over Ichigo's age? Well, he is on the talk page of TMM....oh yeah. Ian Miller wants to know how you want to me credit for the "reborn" thing.
"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 21:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yume_no_Kishi""
- I'm already tired of this thing... I did mention that it could be a mistake in the original manga, but since Tokyopop didn't pay attention to this anyway, it's still their mistake, too: they could have noticed that Ichigo's age doesn't match her grade. I really wish I had the original manga to see if her age is stated correctly or not (and I'm sure it was said correctly... well, we still need a scan of this, and I can't find it anywhere...)
RE: Computer problems (on Yume no Kishi's talk page)
-- Also has a very sluggish computer and thinks this is enough of a message, Addict 2006 01:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
A la Mode stuff deleted
Do not revert it, as it will be a beginning of a new edit war... I really do not want you to get banned from Wikipedia. (And if anything, I can restore it at any time.) Technically, it is really more of a personal opinion, though some parts of it could be used... A la Mode has many plot-holes, and it can be mentioned, but in another way...
Thinking more about this...
You know, I never had a chance to read the manga, original or translated, therefore I can only judge by other fans' opinions written on Tokyo Mew Mew forums...
It is a known thing that sequels of popular stories are often very disappointing. An example I can think of is The NeverEnding Story. The first movie I love (nothing less), the second movie I can watch if I haven't anything better to watch, and the third movie I hate (there wasn't even anything from the novel!). (Again, notice that it's just my personal opinion.) There are some exceptions, but usually the original is better.
The same thing was with A la mode: it was created just because the original story became very popular. Yeah, Sailor Moon wasn't originally intended to be longer than the Dark Kingdom series, but in that case all five stories were connected to each other and nothing appeared out of the blue.
While I do believe that many fans dislike Berry, it's still their personal opinion. There are reasons for this, I'm not arguing about it. But I do not think that this info can make articles better.
Furthermore, this thing starts to remind me of how many TMM fans hate Aoyama for being "too perfect". It isn't mentioned in his article! I believe I'm simply too old to get into this "whom Ichigo looks better with" thing, or to be a crazy fan of Ryou Shirogane or Kish. (Why, I have a boyfriend in real life, and for sure I prefer him over any fictional character. ~_^ That is why I don't like fangirls.) However, it's a fact that poor Masaya is hated by a majority of fans. Only it is not mentioned anywhere in Wikipedia...
Also, the manga itself is not a reliable source of such things. If it was so, we wouldn't have to bother Ian Miller and ask him to write a review about the "reborn", for we have pictures from the original manga, where it is clearly shown that the word is not the same as in the opening song. But that wasn't enough.
That's just my opinion on this thing. I know that you are trying to make the articles better. But such things are not something that is usually included into an encyclopedia. An encyclopedia has just basic info, with no further analysis of the topic (which is what you're trying to do). There can be some additional info, but only if it is: 1) really important, or 2) interesting to know about, and 3) with sources cited. A la Mode/Berry stuff is none of these. So... sorry for not sharing your opinion, but I kinda begin to think that it wasn't that good to keep this in the articles...
"Ian Miller is now done with the review. He now needs how you want to be credited as. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 00:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)" - Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yume_no_Kishi"
- Eh? What does that mean? This mistake could've been noticed by anyone else... and I wasn't even sure that this thing would go into the articles... Yes, I was the first person (apparently...) to point it out, but I'm sure there were some people who noticed the mistake, but thought it wasn't important (they still think it isn't...). Say I was the first to post this info on Wikipedia talk pages, that'll be enough...
I'm tired of the things on Ichigo's article talk page. Who cares if a particular person decided to use "ribbon"? Why arguing about it? And one may think that writing the words correctly is actually a good thing! And there may be people who are interested in learning the correct translation! Does that mean that if a person deletes this thing just because he/she doesn't want to know/use the correct translation, then he/she is just... selfish?.. And those lines that are mentioned there (those for the "vowels that are drawn out") look different from a normal chōon, by the way. Look at the BK's manga picture that you uploaded - those are said lines. They're used only at the end of a phrase or a part of a phrase, not somewhere at random. Considering how the attack name are shown (the font that is used), it doesn't look like this... Why other vowels in the other Mews' attacks aren't drawn out? And this completely changes the meaning of the word; Japanese is not the language where you can change the length of the vowel just because you decided to do so. "Ribbon is girly" is stupid as well - POV. If the creators wanted to use "ribbon", they'd have written リボン, not リボーン. If Tokyopop changed the word purposefully, without any note about this it still looks like a mistake. And what is "I prefer to say so"? Well, you know, I kinda got used to calling Usagi Tsukino "Bunny", and I think that "Bunny" sounds cute. However, on my SM webpage I always call her "Usagi", because I decided that the info on my webpage should be based on the original Japanese version. That's a different thing. Yume no Kishi
Yume no Kishi has nothing else to do... ^_^;;; Just wanted to say that I have a bad habit of leaving comments in the articles; this is usually when I want to add some info, but don't know how to put it in better words. So read carefully when editing the articles. Yume no Kishi
Still don't like how the info about international versions is placed in the articles at random. The whole VA lists at the end of the characters articles... why not put the info about this in the Adaptations article? Same goes for attacks and transformations... Yume no Kishi
Lettuce's Age
Just to throw some more confusion into the mix.
Did you notice that Lettuce's Birthday comes after the high school cutoff date (April), but Ichigo's comes before it?
This means that, in oder for them to be on the same grade, there must be an 11 month age gap, not a 1 month age gap. They would only be the same age for a very short period of time.
Ichigo is about as young as it is possible to be in any Japanese school grade, while Lettuce is about as old as it is possible to be in a Japanese school grade.
perfectblue 11:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- (^Already answered to this... Yume no Kishi)
Things To Do While Waiting For A Fellow Wikipedian To Appear Online
- (Finally) add a Mew Mew Power section to the Blue Knight's article.
- Turn one's user page into something really awful.
- Make more Tokyo Mew Mew userboxes.
- Upload several pictures of Tokyo Mew Mew anime minor characters to photobucket in case they may be used for their article.
- Curse Wikipedia for being too slow to upload said pictures here and insert them into the article.
- Curse one's Internet connection for being good only at downloading files and not at uploading them.
- Add random hidden comments to the TMM articles and hope that someone will read it and confirm the info.
Are you reading the messages?
To be honest, I think that the "reborn" thing explanation in the Mews' articles can be replaced with a link to the main TE section... and still think this stuff better fits the Adaptations article...
This user is tired
We spent so much time to get the "ribbon"/"reborn" reference, and now this isn't enough... Now the other mistakes need references, too! Geez... though I still don't see any POV in this section... I tell you: this section won't survive in the main article. Yume no Kishi
- As shown by the "ribbon/reborn" thing, pictures themselves can't be count as a reference. Besides, there are still fans like Fushi2 and Kiwi-chan, who won't believe it even with pictures. And fans who just add random stuff to the articles, because they've read some of the translated manga, and so they "know"... ("Kirema Anima", yeah...) You know how many stupid edits I sometimes have to revert? I'm usually online at least 10 hours a day - if I'm at home and not sleeping. I'm monitoring all TMM articles via the watchlist, so I often can revert stupid changes in a few minutes. Sometimes the changes are made only in one of several articles that have the same info, which indicates that people don't even bother to read other articles. As long as this stuff is edited by fangirls, there will be more stupidity added. If we find references for all translation errors, we'll at least be sure that this section won't be eventually deleted by admins, and that admins can help us to protect this section from vandals. Yume no Kishi
Something to know about. You have to know this!
I put in a couple <ref name=soandso>asdf</ref> and <ref name=soandso/> things for a reason: so those references wouldn't get duplicated and possibly scattered! Take a look at this for once!!! --Trying to tell you something while forgoing your warning because he also has a stricter explicit warning and takes it seriously and is giving out stated harsh behavior right now, Addict 2006 23:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Reply: Hey, I'm the only one who's serious around here! The Undefined part can mean anything, from all the reasons, to just one, and I burst in imperial rage or something. Get what I mean? --Still forgoing your warning because, again, he also has a stricter explicit warning and takes it seriously and is still giving out stated harsh behavior, Addict 2006 00:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
News
- The Truth about "reborn" slowly reaches the owners of TMM fansites... ^_^ Of course, it'll take some time, but come on! the mistakes in the "Sailor Moon" manga also lived for years before they were explained! For sure an article at DIES GAUDII is a much more stronger argument than just a note written by two wikiusers! And I still think that if the authors meant "ribbon", they'd have written リボン, and not リボーン: it's so much simplier! I mean, why use one word if you actually mean another? And if it is a pun, it's still more correct to use "reborn", like in Saturn's attack. And still - no signs of any ribbons in their attacks...
Now we need to do something with other "alterations"... While the "anima" reference we probably can get somewhere (it's still important, as many fans were confused by this thing; and it's even more interesting than Sailor AnimaMates, because here it's quite possible that "anima" is not only a shortened form of "animal", but a reference to the term "anima" itself), I have absolutely no clue what to do with Ichigo's age...
- Tokyo Mew Mew & Mew Mew Power Episode List! Still screwed up (especially translations), but I believe it's better than nothing.
- Still trying to add stuff to the Blue Knight's article, but just don't know how to put it in proper words, so I again left the stuff in hidden comments...
- I'm now reformatting episode list, and then will made an article for it. Have you read articles at DIES GAUDII about Mixx' screwed up translation of SM? Yeah, that was even worse than "ribbon", and people believed it, too. >.< So it'll take time... Yume no Kishi
YES!!! List of Tokyo Mew Mew episodes, my first article!!! A good start, and I can eventually add summaries. (And who knows... we're editing TMM articles, adding a lot of info... Maybe one day there'll be Project WikiMew or something like that... ^_^;)
- That was fun. Since I've never created articles before, I decided that the best way to do it is to put a link to the new article where it should be, and then move the content from subpage here (as opposite to creating a new article via special form and then linking it). Well, if you look at the history of the main article and the new article... ^_^;;; the link was deleted (since it was still "red") exactly at the same moment when I inserted the info and saved the new page. Just found it funny. Yume no Kishi
This is why I prefer to put stuff on my user sub-page first, organize it and then move to the normal article. Summaries I can add in the future, and anyone who have seen the anime can help with it. NGE episodes even have normal summaries on their separate pages. Guess it eventually can be done with TMM. Yume no Kishi
Articles that need some improvement (other than those in your "to-do list")
Just some analysis of the whole thing. I'm not sure if I'll be able to improve them without any help. But I'll try to do something...
- The Blue Knight - too much focused on the plot instead of just providing basic info (yes, I know that we originally made it just from nothing), no proper description of his abilities (there's just one sentence!). The plot will eventually go to the episode summaries, so there'll be no need to keep it in the article. Almost no mention of Deep Blue, just because we stopped describing the plot before the last few episodes.
- International adaptations of Tokyo Mew Mew - needs some rewriting.
- Tokyo Black Cat Girl and its characters - total lack of kanji for the names.
- Alterations section - badly needs sources.
- General note: there are absolutely no characters infoboxes. Look at other anime-related articles (Sailor Moon, for example), go through the characters' articles, and you'll see.
- If Miau Miau Power is MMP redubbed, there is no need to write much, just a few sentences is enough. Same with many other adaptations. Still a good thing.
- Read hidden comments in the BK's article.
- There is also one thing missed from Ichigo's weapons section: that shield she makes with her StrawBell Bell.
More ideas (sorry, I'm just trying to improve the articles, have many ideas, but not sure if they're good, so I'll ask first)
It's just really bad that I don't have the manga, because it makes it very difficult to tell if there are any notable differences in the plot or not. To look at the Mews' articles, the "manga" and "anime" sections in their "history" sometimes have almost the same text, with only a few sentences altered. Reminds me of the description of TMM adaptations back when the stuff was in the main article and the Italian version was just added. Makes the articles redundant.
This is how I organize characters' pages on my SM website: I start with basic info - something that is certainly true for both versions, a sort of an intro (i.e. who the character is, his/her role in the story, etc.), then describe the manga version, with some really important plot details and personality, and then in the anime section I describe just the difference from the manga - not the whole plot difference, as it goes to a separate place if it's really notable, but rather something that can show if there are any changes in characters' powers/personality between the two versions*. (The only exception is when the whole character's story is completely different, as in case of Chibi Chibi, but there are no such things in TMM.) IMO, this is way better than altering the same text to make it suitable for another version, or writing huge plot summaries instead of just pointing out the differences. Besides, this is how Mew Mew Power version is described, as there is no need to repeat the same with different names. Anyway, the main idea is to avoid repetition.
* And I mean - really important plot details. Some articles have some description of the plot, but completely lack the description of the characters - not only powers, but also personality. Sometimes it's other way around. This thing needs a balance. And don't forget that I can watch most of the anime episodes whenever I want, so I can provide the info; it's only difficult for me to compare it to the manga.
Stupid vandalism
Yesterday I had to revert someone's stupid edits, and today they're back again, but from a different IP! Look.
- 68.57.210.96
- 76.208.192.102
The edits are a constant changing of "Masaya" to "Malaya"... yeah... And 2 IPs... I recently had to revert some stupidity in the Luckdragon article two times in a row, but that was made by just one IP (and it continues to add this nonsense). And here are 2 IPs that appear to be the same person. It gets more and more difficult to protect the articles from vandals... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
Sources
The recent rewriting of the NOR policy statements can help us greatly. Basically we are talking just about the different translations (correct or incorrect) of certain words - this thing is much more easy to prove than some speculations about characters' personality and such (like Mint's "crush" on Zakuro). Moreover, said speculations just can't be proven, while the translations can - if there is any person who can analyze the info and made it available for citing. This is our chance to save the Alterations section. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
- I've put a link to Anime News Network in the adaptations article, as a reference for Italian version, as it didn't have any... but there are some contradictions between this page and the article... ANN still calls the "Italian version" of Kish "Quiche", and there was also some character named "Kai", who, I suppose, is actually Keiichiro. (The page may get edited, but when I looked up the info there, it was like this.) Pie was actually called "Pai" there. On an interesting note, the Italian Wikipedia has half of the names messed up, and also characters' ages. I guess we need some more sources for this thing... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
Re: thank you
Thank you for reverting what the user did to my user page. You wouldn't happen to know if there is any vandalism tag specifically about user page would you? "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 01:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- There is. On the Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace page, if you look under Complete list of warnings you will see the templates for User page vandalism. Glad to be of service. Harryboyles 05:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
^_^
Hey, I've fixed your age userbox today... only there's still something wrong. You can try to ask about it at the talk page for this template (it has the instructions, BTW...) 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 21:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Template_talk:User_current_age Look here.
I already did it on your user page, but it seems like February has 30 days instead of 28, like it should be, so the userbox needs improvement... or maybe I did something wrong... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yume no Kishi (talk • contribs).
- I've uploaded the last 3 minor characters pics to photobucket, so now the collection seems to be complete. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
- Mrs. Ijuuin was his wife, but she's shown only in a flashback. I can take a screenshot with her, too. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
- I think Pudding's mother was shown in the flashback in episode 20. Her father is never shown. 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
- OK, here is a picture of Pudding's mom. Now, I believe the collection is complete. (Should I change the status of the task?) 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 07:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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funny comment ( ^_^)
so you can't answer my questions quickly because of those silly reasons yo Angelofdeath275 that's wrong and i say this because ya need to know so just stop by my page (kataraisdabest) or my friends page (starfire&robin) ok Kataraisdabest 18:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)kataraisdabest 3/13/07
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I don't remember anything about Zakuro's family from the anime, but that's not the worst thing. My computer apparently got a virus, so I won't edit Wikipedia from it until it's gone. And my mom's computer is very slow and doesn't support Japanese script. I HATE IT! 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 03:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC) Now my own messages look stupid to me, because half of my signature is not shown. >.<
- (Need I repeat how much I hate editing from this computer?..) OK, I was going to add episode summaries, right? (Not now, but after I fix stuff on my own computer.) Well, now the question is what they should look like. I mean, I can write them in any way: just add some 4-5-line description right in the table, or make a normal 4-5-paragraph summary, with episode highlights (characters introduced etc.), and put them on separate pages. What do you think? 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 13:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I've undeleted this image per your request. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 05:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
And this one:
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Yume no Kishi's homemade user warning template!
{{User:Yume_no_Kishi/uw-names}}
Just got very tired of fixing the name changes in TMM articles (e.g. Kish -> Kishu, Tart -> Taruto, etc.) made by random users. The talk page has instructions. I tested it on my own talk page, and it seems to work properly.
夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 13:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- This thing is kinda universal for all articles, so it would be helpful, and it actually can be used for any kind of name changes. Other things are minor. They are considered just inserting unverified info (there is already a template message for this), but the names are a special case. The name changes are considered bad edits because the rule about using names (which I kinda described in my template) works everywhere on Wikipedia. Such changes can not be called mistakes - it is just a matter of translation. Oh, and this template needs to be subst'ed too, like other templates, so it would be {{subst:User:Yume_no_Kishi/uw-names}}. You can try to make warning templates yourself, it's easy. ~_^
- ...I feel sorry for your computer... Mine is still alive... somehow... but I think it will die this year... considering how often something happens to it... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 13:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Tokyo Mew Mew's minor character images
Thanks for uploading images to the List of minor characters in Tokyo Mew Mew. Rtkat3 (talk) 8:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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Oh boy... leave that person alone... and explain to me what's wrong with showing someone who uploads untagged images how to use copyright tags... >.< 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 13:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Speaking of images... I found one interesting thing in Deep Blue's article... didn't notice before, 'cause I usually set my browser not to show graphics... Commented, as usual, and included in my to-do list, with a link. Not sure what pic to choose... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 13:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Now read Renaika's reply on my talk page... She apparently doesn't like us because we revert her bad edits in TMM articles, and doesn't realize that here one can't choose people to talk to and get help from: if two (or more) users constantly edit articles on the same topic, they'll interact anyway. So she wants to be a Wikipedian, but doesn't want to get messages from particular users? It's impossible! And... so far, no one else tried to help her...
- Anyway, I was thinking about what else needs improvement in TMM articles. I think I'll finish with anime summaries on Saturday. Technically, I can add any info and any pics from the anime, so I'll try to look through the articles and see if any important info is missing.
- Yeah, I know it'll get big... >.<; No, TMM doesn't have seasons (it's only 52 episodes long...). I can try to shorten the summaries a little... And we don't have to use these "intro" parts I made ("characters introduced" and stuff). 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 13:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- It will get long... I really don't feel like describing episodes in just 2-3 lines... this is why I wanted to make separate pages for them. I think I'll make a version with really short summaries to see what it will look like... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 20:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
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I'm not sure, but I think better choose a pic from some earlier episode, where his form was just revealed. Kinda looks more mysterious. ^_^; If so, it could be the one from episode 27; then again, for the whole first half of the show he is only shown as some light - then it's from episode 2. (Note: the pic that is currently in the article is also from episode 2, a few frames after mine. And I know where it came from... that's the same webpage where it is (or was) said that Deep Blue created the Blue Knight in order to defeat the Mews...) But if anything, we can even use several pics... why not?.. Not sure... Oh well, at least I have finished with another thing... but it needs some improvement... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
- Summaries: I tried to move this stuff to the article, but the page gets big, since it contains not only the table itself, and I am already tired of trying to make them shorter... maybe you can help? Rewrite them a little, maybe, just to make them look more compact, and fix them a little, to make the text sound better... And I have no clue how can we do the thing someone suggested (move Italian episode list there)...
- Pictures:
- I looked at DB's article... seems that there is room for one more pic. Then, we can do this:
- The picture at the beginning can be left alone, it looks good enough. (Fully revealed) Though... spoiler at the beginning of the article, huh?
- The second, "misleading" picture can be replaced with the one from episode 27, since this is what it was supposed to be. (Shadow)
- Somewhere in the history section we can put my pic from episode 2 - as I said, he was like this for the whole first half of the series, so it is still impotant. (Light)
- If we try to get rid of the spoiler, then the pics should be in... um... chronological order, or what is it called?.. That is:
- Beginning of the article - pic from episode 2 (Light)
- History section - pic from episode 27 (Shadow)
- Anime history section - move there the pic from the beginning of the article. (Fully revealed)
- Think what will be better.
- And... some manga pic of him could be useful, too...
- Um... eh... you know, I just thought that articles about manga/anime characters should contain pics from both the manga and the anime - if it is possible, of course. This is just interesting. Besides, some of the Mews' articles do have manga pics (because of the "reborn" thing), the BK's article does have a manga pic... But you're asking me which pic to upload, right?.. heh... I have no clue what does DB look like in the manga...
- Speaking of the manga: there are still some characters' articles that need expansion, and I can only add info from the anime, which means that if we're going to make them bigger by splitting the "History", you'll probably have to write the "Manga" part, since nobody else is trying to add stuff to the articles. ~_^;
- Someone posted an interesting comment on the main article's talk page: it is never said in the articles what the Mew Aqua is, even though there are many references to it... hm... Maybe add some section about it? 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 03:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
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"The episodes of the original tokyo mew mew members. I was thinking that they could be merged into the episode summaries."
- The only problem is that the summaries are already long... But... you mean these "History/Anime" sections, right? I think characters' articles should be focused on the characters themselves, not on their story... look at their personality sections: just few lines... Also, Ichigo's, Mint's and Lettuce's articles have a detailed description of their first meeting in the manga - this is redundant. So there's still room for improvement. But we should think before moving stuff... though there is really no need to describe the same thing on different pages. Geez, there's still so much to do... 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk
"WAIT. I have an idea. Look at Clow Card Arc: 1-18. The card captors episode summeries are not all in one page. This is a good idea!"
- So simple... I think it'll be enough to split TMM summaries into 2 pages: ep.1-26 and 27-52. It does make sense: Mew Mew Power is only 26 episodes long, right? ~_^ So it'll be on a separate page now...
- But that means moving stuff around... We'll have two new pages (the episode list itself can be left alone)... wah... moving stuff... Though you know, I think TMM articles are still pretty badly organized... I've seen many anime articles here, and most of them look much better than TMM... so it is not bad to change something...
- One more idea. You know that list of broadcasters at the end of the main TMM article? Do you think we can leave there only Japan and the United States (and maybe other English-speaking countries), and move everyting else to the International adaptations?.. I just thought it would fit better into this article.
- There's one problem with the warning. I couldn't find any official Wikipedia policy that says about the names: it IS mentioned somewhere, but it is not considered important, therefore we can't even call it "vandalism"... >.< 夢の騎士Yume no Kishi - Talk 15:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)