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Mobile

I've got to say again, thanks for all your efforts regarding the Mobile article. What areas are still considered 'problems' for possible GA status? And how may I, a Mobile native, help? --Donovan Ravenhull (talk) 10:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mobile, Alabama

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Mobile, Alabama you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 4 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. — Rudget _{contributions} 15:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You'll be very happy to hear that I have passed the article you nominated, Mobile, Alabama. See the talk page for the eventual comments that were made. Well done. Best, — Rudget _{contributions} 17:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad I had the oppurtunity to review it! :) — Rudget _{contributions} 19:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

No subject was added

Altairisfar - this is the same person who made the edits to the Portland, OR climate section. Those edits are correct, and I am glad to see that somebody else has put them back after you decided to delete them. Please do not delete facts that you have no knowledge of (i.e Portland, OR climate). I will likewise refrain from making edits to things I am not sure about, as was the case when I made the edits to the Mobile photo captions. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PDXman31 (talk • contribs) 06:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you 12.183.80.20? Check the revision history of Portland, Oregon. I've never reverted or even edited that page. I checked your edits to that page and left them as they were. You made a constructive edit there. As for the Mobile, Alabama, you changed three dates that were in the 1800s to a date in the 1900s, obvious vandalism of a page. And thanks for publicly identifying yourself,PDXman31, as the vandal. -Altairisfar (talk) 06:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am the same person who was on 12.183.80.20. That's the company IP and I was in the office catching up on things and ended up wandering through Wikipedia, I'm sure you know how that goes. I also just created the login PDXman31 in the last hour, never used one before. Does that clear it up?

As far as the Mobile, AL revisions - when I saw the captions the first thing that jumped out at me was that it appeared the photos were taken in the (year) given. Cameras weren't around in the 1830's, so it appeared the photo dates should have been 1930's (and that somebody had vandalized them to show the 1830's). That's why I changed them. In retrospect, those are the years of those buildings being built and not the photo years. It makes sense now, but it was confusing at first glance. I also know now that you can trace the edit history by clicking the "history" tab, I never bothered with that before. Also, the Portland, OR climate edits that I made were reverted (or so it appeared since the old information came back), before my edits appeared again. I thought it was you reverting them since you saw my IP and thought I was "vandalizing" things again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PDXman31 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

In that case, I really do apologize but please understand that I am also a vandalism patroller and people sneak little things like that into articles all of the time. I know that Wikipedia is way more confusing than neccessary sometimes, I'll try to rectify the date situation on that page so that it's clear. This talk page will serve to prove that you are not a vandal. Sorry, and BTW, I do have personal knowledge of Portland, it's an awesome city. -Altairisfar (talk) 07:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I also added a clarification to User talk:12.183.80.20 to reflect this conversation. -Altairisfar (talk) 07:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

No worries. I know about the history button now so I can check to see what's going on. Thanks for adding that clarification also.—Preceding unsigned comment added by PDXman31 (talk • contribs)

No problem, and sorry to have "bitten your head off", I spent nearly 4 months writing the Mobile, Alabama article, so I am a little touchy about vandalism(or, in your case, my perceived vandalism) to it in particular. Happy editing..... -Altairisfar (talk) 08:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks, I appreciate you letting me know. I didn't even know that it had been nominated. Altairisfar^talk 19:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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Vine and Olive Colony

You're welcome. Thank you for writing it! I enjoyed reading it, and learning a fascinating bit of history of my home state. =) Aleta (talk) 02:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Herbie Redmond

I would like to ask you to take another look at the Herbie Redmond that you rated as a stub today. While it may not be perfect, it truly surpised me to see it rated a stub. It may not be that relevant to the Alabama Wiki Project,as he gained his fame in Detroit, but that would only affect the importance rating and should not result in it being considered a stub. Anyway, if you wouldn't mind taking another look and reconsidering, I'd appreciate it.Cbl62 (talk) 03:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

On taking a second look, I think all of the material is relevant and fairly well written, so it is better than just a stub. I'll go back and rate it as start class, but some inline citations and subheadings to what you already have there would improve the article a great deal. Altairisfar^talk 03:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and I agree the article needs some work.Cbl62 (talk) 04:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Covered Bridges

Thank you for your interest in my articles on Alabama's Covered Bridges. I'm new at this User talk discussion forum, so please bear with me if I am not doing things properly. Hopefully, I can get some more information on the former bridges when I return to Alabama next October. My trip was short lived this year. If you need any more information on covered bridges in the Southeastern United States, please let me know and I will help out as much as I can. Once again, thanks.

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Cercis canadensis, etc

Thanks! Glad to help! - MPF (talk) 21:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Govt Street Presbyterian

Nice development of the Government Street Presbyterian Church article, and thanks for adding the new pic's thumbnail to List of National Historic Landmarks in Alabama, too. Cheers, doncram (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for starting the article! I've been attempting to locate some additional info that is reliable to expand it further, but thus far no luck on that. It may require a trip to the Mobile Public Library or Municipal Archives but I'd like it to include some detailed info. Altairisfar^talk 23:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation

Altairisfar ... Thanks for the invitation to join the Alabama Project. I'll assist as best as I can. Rlm0710 (talk) 20:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Belcourt

It is from an 1895 Architectural Digest. I am unsure, however, of the copyright status of such a picture. Would you know? The photographer was Frank H. Child and the photo comes from a larger set of 5 - 6 pictures, two of which are on the LOC American Memory (the ballroom and a grand hall). A lot of it seems to be in the public domain, but I am not sure. I have some privately owned colour photos of Belcourt that I took when I spent a weekend there, but they are of a facade which has much changed since Alva's time and it doesn't have the same "feeling" as the vintage photos, if you know what I mean. I have no issues with uploading those photos, but I would prefer the black and white photo from 1895 because it's rather beautiful and from the era. Charles 09:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I have placed it in the article but please tweak the location if it looks bad. If you want a real sense of Belcourt's size, I suggest standing on the roof next to one of the chimneys! I don't think it's going to be on the tour though, you know with liability issues and all ;-) It was one of the fine points of its design and construction: Belmont wanted Belcourt designed to look smaller than it really is. The effect is still seen today when the castle seems to grow exponentially as you approach it. Charles 10:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Carpenter Gothic

Many thanks for your message and the images you've uploaded. They're great. I've belonged to a Carpenter Gothic Church for 25 years and yes, Carpenter Gothic has become a passion. You've made my day. Again thanks! clariosophic (talk) 03:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks also for posting the images of St. Luke's Episcopal Church (Cahaba, Alabama) Best wishes. clariosophic (talk) 03:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've created an article for Waldwic. Thanks again for all your help. Best wishes. clariosophic (talk) 21:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading the new pictures. They're great. clariosophic (talk) 01:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

T:DYK.

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NRHP infobox

Thanks, sorry about screwing up the template. I just made another change, can you see if I screwed up again? Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 02:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally, is there a reason that this infobox is larger than many others? Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 02:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK

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Carpenter Gothic

Hey there Altairisfar. You seem to take some interest in the Carpenter Gothic article. I am curious to your thinking on your picture editing on the article. The first image is tilted and has telephone or electric cable running through it. The third image, being brick, is stylistically related but atypical of the style. The American Gothic House is both prototypical and quintessential. I will also post this on the article Carpenter Gothic discussion page, which is probably where the discussion should unfold. Thanks. CApitol3 (talk) 16:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

(Cross-posted) Hi, I've never added images to American Gothic or Carpenter Gothic. Clariosophic used a few of my images there, you need to see that user. Altairisfar_talk 16:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Peer review on List of National Historic Landmarks in New York

Hi Altairisfar -- Your input is invited.  :) I've gone ahead and asked for peer review on the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York list, including the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York City (hopefully to be considered by the peer reviewers as well). Open at Wikipedia:Peer review#List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. doncram (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Port of Mobile

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The new image looks great too. Euryalus (talk) 20:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Ports information is fairly easy to come by - the hard part is matching the published data with an understanding of how the port fits with the city, region or country it sits in, and getting good-quality free images. Your work on the port of Mobile is great - most gulf coast ports don't even have an article so there's plenty more to do both there and anywhere else in the world. Euryalus (talk) 02:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

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Pitts' Folly

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Africatown

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Richard Upjohn and Faunsdale Plantation etc

HI Altairisfar -- Got your note back in response to my posting at Talk:Trinity Episcopal Church (Mobile, Alabama). I was not aware of the development of the Richard Upjohn article, but I do see now that you have improved it greatly. It is looking good. Very gratifying to see development, on an article that I had visited and contributed to just a little, a while back. I find the ties of common architecture between New York State properties and Alabama properties to be very interesting, personally.

About Faunsdale Plantation being part of an MPS. For MPS's each property gets a separate refnum and is on its own a regular NRHP or an HD. Actually Faunsdale may be an HD on its own. But the MPS as a group is not an HD. I do think there should be mention of the MPS, and a way for readers to navigate to other properties in the MPS if they are interested. I noticed no MPS mention in the NRHP infobox for Faunsdale, while you had said it was in an MPS. So I used the Elkman NRHP infobox generator to see what it reported for Faunsdale, and in fact it includes an MPS line. So I copied that line in, and further made it into a wikilink, and further went and started (minimally) an article on the MPS. The MPS article could mostly just be a listing of the members of the MPS. With development of the MPS article, I think that is then the correct treatment for Faunsdale. You're doing great work! cheers, doncram (talk) 07:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Old Catholic Cemetery (Mobile, Alabama)

Hi. I've nominated this article for DYK. Look over the hook and see if any improvements could be made. Thanks. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 23:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice article. I notice the NRHP infobox mentions a Multiple Property Submission covering Roman Catholic sites in the area, and I don't know if you already know how to get those. You should be able to access that at http://www.nps.gov/nr/research/index.htm. Perhaps it would be a useful reference in the article, and/or support other articles. However the National Register search system for MPS documents is designed for Microsoft Internet Explorer, and otherwise is buggy and sometimes works with Firefox and sometimes not. doncram (talk) 18:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Old Catholic Cemetery (Mobile, Alabama)

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Congrats. APK ^{yada yada} 09:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

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DYK

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Mobile cobbled streets

Are you familiar with the cobbled or bricked streets once used in downtown Mobile? I was down along the docks the other day and saw some places where the bricks are still visible beneath the cracking asphalt. I would guess there is some historic value there and probably an article modification or creation. However I have never seen any reliable information about the streets. They may link to Fort Conde but I am not sure. I can grab some images if you have any ideas about where to find some information. JodyB _talk 19:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, no I'm not really familiar with them, though I have seen small sections of bricks beneath the asphalt too in a few places around town. I checked my books but nothing about brick streets seems to be mentioned there. I have read or been told ? that the Bellingraths got most of the old flagstone sidewalks from the city in exchange for paying to replace them with concrete during the first half of the 20th century. One of my books does mention Old Shell Road and the Bay Shell Road (that flanked the western shore of the bay until a hurricane destroyed it) being paved with oyster shells. It would be very interesting to find out just what happened to the other original road surfaces. I can't remember the exact spots that I've noticed exposed bricks in the past, but they were very small sections on any account, like 6-8 bricks max. It would be cool to get some images of the brick surfaces you mentioned, since they may get repaved at any time. Altairisfar_talk 17:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The ones I am thinking about are directly in front of the shipyards along a street that parallels the railroad tracks in front of the Bender Shipbuilding gates. And like you said, only a handful of bricks are exposed. I'll see a guy at church tonight that's with DOT. I'll see what he knows. -JodyB _talk 21:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

List of RHPs in Alabama, table-ized

Hi -- Perhaps you could comment in this thread? In my view, the new version is good now and Sanfranman59 should be encouraged to move it out of his userspace to replace the current version. doncram (talk) 15:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Fourth of July, or bust, Thanks!

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		I award you this Barnstar for your solid, witty, creative, supportive, learned, timely, cheerful, eloquent, and/or otherwise generally great contributions on U. S. National Historic Landmarks' articles. Yippee o yay, we pretty much met our goal of a well-started article for each of 2,442 NHLs by today! Thanks, and have a great Fourth of July! -- Doncram, 4 July 2008

Thank you for going out to photograph the NHLs of Alabama! And your development of List of NHLs in AL and subsidiary articles was an early big encouragement to me, especially because it was so salient (first), in checklists of all the shortcomings, otherwise, in NHL articles! Happily we have now accelerated to position of having articles for all 2,442 NHLs, with 1750+ of those with photographs! Thanks! doncram (talk) 19:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

A reverted edit

Altairisfar,

Thank you for your concern regarding the Mobile, Alabama article, but, as is common knowledge, Mobile IS the second most populous city in Alabama and Huntsville is the third. I will now take the opportunity to correct this AGAIN.

76.29.238.75 (talk) 18:10, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I Apologize for that as i made a mistake in placing mobile as the second largest CITY instead of metro area. 76.29.238.75 (talk) 18:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem, common mistake. Altairisfar_talk 01:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

mobile home

Thanks for catching my error on mobile home! I'm more than a little embarrassed for falling for such a ploy -- and I'll be certain to not fall into the trap of trusting authority so readily again. — Eric Herboso 14:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

I notice that you tagged the page Image:Davids.jpg for speedy deletion with the reason "a file other than an image, audio, or video file, which is not used in any articles and has no encyclopedic use". While that's a valid reason for speedy deletion in general, this page does not qualify for speedy deletion under that criterion because it is an image file; this criterion only applies to files like PDFs. If you still want the page to be deleted, please consider tagging it with a speedy deletion template which does apply, redirecting it to another page, or using the WP:IFD process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 09:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

That was an oops. I'll take it to Ifd. Thanks. Altairisfar_talk 13:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

3204 boys gang

I was wondering why you chose to deleted the article on the 3204 boys gang? I was wondering if u could give any tips to fix it up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuwa1t21 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I did not delete it, I tagged it and then an administrator checked it and decided it not fit the notabilty criteria and deleted it. You should take a look at Wikipedia's notability guideline for people. I hope that helps. Altairisfar_talk 23:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Middlesex Lodge

Not sure why you would have deleted the Middlesex Lodge website. It was not using copywritten information with out permission, I felt that it was an unbiased factual history of the lodge and it was not there as an advertisement. I truly believe that this lodge is an important lodge in the history of Massachussetts lodges as it was one of the first chartered lodges in Mass by then grand master Paul Revere. Since this is my first attempt to submit an article and I can't see that I had done anything wrong could you explain your actions to me? Middlesexlodge (talk) 03:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Adam / user middlesex lodge

Take the time to read the Wikipedia policies that have been presented to you already on your talk page, such as Wikipedia:Copyright violations and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Altairisfar_talk 03:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I had published this article about Middlesex lodge feeling that it is 1. interesting and 2. of historical significance. I have had no less than three moderators tell me that the article was a conflict of interest, copyright infringement and/or blatant advertising. I have read and re-read the policies and I honestly can't see how any of these apply. This is my first article on wikipedia and I really just want to be able to make a useful contribution.

P.S. sorry about the multiple posts, my computer was acting up a bit there.

Middlesexlodge (talk) 04:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

User Middlesexlodge posted the following on Talk:Middlesex lodge:

"I am the webmaster of middlesexlodge.com and this article is used with full permission. Please inform me of any other steps that I need to take to legitimize this post and they will be taken Middlesexlodge (talk) 03:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC) Adam Reed"

As Altairisfar's advice is what I would give as well, I will remove the similar message which user Middlesexlodge posted (diff) to my talk page. — Athaenara ✉ 04:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Granted I am a member but that by itself according to the policy is not reason for coi. Under the Coi page it does say that it is strongly discouraged due to unintentional biases and self promotion. And while this makes perfect sense to me I think that it is possible that none of you read a word of that article. The article contains no opinion and is simply a historical recount of 200 year history of the lodge. If the inclusion of an external link is reason enough for a deletion that would be easy to fix. If there is something specific that I am missing other than the fact that I am member of the lodge please, please tell me...Thank you again for your help on this... Middlesexlodge (talk) 05:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, if you are the author (not just the webmaster), you would need to "make a note of the situation on the discussion page." The copyright violation is why I tagged the page for speedy deletion in the first place. But we also have the additional issue of a possible conflict of interest. Wikipedia is pretty clear on this too in that it recommends that you should:

"avoid, or exercise great caution when:

1. Editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with,
2. Participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors,
3. Linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam);

   and you must always:

4. Avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially neutral point of view, verifiability, and autobiography."

I hope this is helpful, I know from personal experience that it is frustrating to attempt to comply with rules that you didn't know existed. Most recommendations are that if your subject is truly notable enough for an encyclopedic entry, then someone else will eventually create it. Small consolation, I know. Altairisfar_talk 05:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Alabama State Capitol

You reverted my edit to this page, adding an "in popular culture" reference. How does the appearance of the subject of the article on said license plate, in your words, "have NOTHING" to do with the subject? Qqqqqq (talk) 04:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Elm Bluff, a New York townhouse in the Deep South, and LaTourette House, etc

Hi Altairisfar, thanks for the nice note to my talk page. Very interesting thoughts, and neat pics at the Elm Bluff commons page. Even if the Elm Bluff place seems not notable enough for a separate wikipedia article, couldn't it be described (and the commons link included, etc.) in the wikipedia article for NRHP-listed LaTourette House in New York (currently a red-link)? Anyhow, i won't be able to do much wikipedia stuff for a month or two, but would like to come back to this New York - Alabama idea later. Cheers, doncram (talk) 06:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey y'all!

We're going to be having our first Mississippi meetup next month, and I would love it if you'd like to come out! A few of us will be staying overnight, so if you feel up to it, we could have a meet and greet that night and then breakfast the next morning and talk about Wikipedia and everyone's areas of expertise. Let's show 'em how it's done Southern-style! Mike H. Fierce! 22:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

A thought about DYKs

I see you've been creating a bunch of interesting new Alabama articles and I'll also note for the record that a note on T:TDYK says that they're running a bit low on hooks with so many editors distracted by the holidays, exams, and whatnot. This seems like an excellent time to nominate a good hook from new articles like Half Acre, Alabama. (Hint, hint.) - Dravecky (talk) 22:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll see what I can come up with. I did self-nom Christmas on the River, but they've got it in the "holiday bin." Altairisfar_talk 23:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

So much for my counting skills: it seems the Half Acre, Alabama article is a measly 52 characters short of the 1500 characters of prose minimum. If you can add a couple of sentences to it, I bet you'd be golden. (Be sure to make a note on that talk page by your nomination after you do.) Good luck! - Dravecky (talk) 08:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. If it's not good enough this time, oh well... Thanks! Altairisfar_talk 16:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

They've put it in the next update queue. Congrats (in advance)! - Dravecky (talk) 07:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Altairisfar_talk 16:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Half Acre, Alabama

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Backslash Forwardslash 12:03, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Good job :-) Nyttend (talk) 12:42, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Altairisfar_talk 16:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

List of National Natural Landmarks in Alabama

Hi,

I noticed you've posted a lot of photos about Alabama for the NHL's. Could you pls take a look the the NNL's as well?

Thanks dm (talk) 18:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure! I've got one taken in Tensaw/Mobile River Delta. The others I can "put on my list." They're all in north Alabama and I'm on the Gulf Coast, but I'll work on it. Altairisfar_talk 18:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Want to help me beef up the Delta article to DYK? If so, lets add some text and you should nominate it. If you're local you can probably help figure out the different areas/organizations involved. dm (talk) 20:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Goode-Hall House

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BorgQueen (talk) 17:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

List of National Historic Landmarks in Alabama

I made some comments on the peer review then archived it correctly - not sure if you saw this or not. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:16, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know - good luck with the FLC. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome, I remembered that bit of code from doing a lot of NRHP county tables. --​​​​D.B.^{talk•contribs} 05:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

That info about the purpose of the observatory at Barton Hall comes from this source. --Orlady (talk) 15:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I had looked, but didn't see it in the text, now I do. I like the second try much better though. Altairisfar_talk 19:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I also like the second try better. ;-) --Orlady (talk) 20:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Christmas on the River

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BorgQueen (talk) 13:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, if that's okay...

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Hey, thanks Dravecky!!! Altairisfar_talk 14:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Magnolia Grove (Greensboro, Alabama)

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Cbl62 08:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Alabama

Thanks, in turn, for doing some work for the Alabama counties. You mention churches: that's currently under discussion at the NRHP talk page. Could you please participate? Nyttend (talk) 02:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

And more thanks for assessing those Alabama articles, even if you should be sleeping instead. - Dravecky (talk) 10:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Fairhope Plantation

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Multiple consecutive edits

Hello- I noticed your many edits to the Cupola article today, and would like to make a suggestion if you don't mind: It will be easier for you and your co-editors to collaborate on an article if, instead of making multiple consecutive edits a minute or two apart on an article, you use the "show preview" button to view your changes incrementally, then save the page when you're satisfied with your edits. Thanks in advance for considering this. -Eric ^talk 23:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I am quite aware of that feature. The article has been unsourced since its creation on September 8, 2001, your two edits (and a few "undos" prior to that) did nothing to rectify that. My consecutive edits are the result of trying to correct seven years of unsourced additions. Thanks for your concern. Altairisfar_talk 23:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi- My edits to the cupola article were attempts to improve the wording of the definition, not to rectify the sourcing issue. Though I did not cite them in the article, I drew on multiple sources I have used over the course of several extensive medieval architecture book translation projects. But that's not what I posted here about. I was hoping to motivate you to make it easier on your co-editors by condensing your edit sessions. -Eric ^talk 00:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

"Hoping to motivate" me is condescending. I explained the reasoning behind my consecutive edits above, I'm sorry if they annoyed you. My "multiple consecutive edits" are usually confined to articles that I create, and then only if I have to rework them after moving them to the mainspace. I would hope that getting the original research, or appearance of it, out of the article would be the more important issue here. Altairisfar_talk 00:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't mean to be condescending, just didn't see any explanation in your response. I didn't post here to tell you I was annoyed, but to remind you of generally accepted policy urging us to keep saves to a minimum: Help:Show_preview. -Eric ^talk 15:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Show preview isn't a policy or a guideline, it's a help page. There's a reason it's not a policy- sometimes multiple saves are necessary. The policy is at editing policy. If you have a problem with the content at Cupola, you're more than free to edit the page. In other words: Please focus on the content, not another user's editing style. Altairisfar_talk 17:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Thornhill

Sorry for the late response, I see you found the info on Gorgas. I respect the plagerism thing, the book was quoting the actual diaries, which I referenced.

I am very much a fanatic on correct info. Having owned Thornhill for 45 years and being a decendent, I am amazed at all the inaccuracies in the various publications- "Silent in the Lamb" has 5 inaccuracies in a very short article, as does "Historic Homes of Alabama", and "Mansions of Alabama", although "Mansions of Alabama" by Ralph Hammond is by far the best book on the house. Hammond said in the book that Thornton's second wife was his childhood sweetheart, when in fact she was born twelve years after he was. Hard to imagine that they were childhood sweethards when he was almost a teenager when she was born. "Historic Homes of Alabama" has Thornhill as the home of William Thornton, pretty big mistake. BJJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thornhillplantation (talk • contribs) 23:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

By the way, great job you are doing on wiki regarding the historic housese etc. Altairisfar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thornhillplantation (talk • contribs) 23:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Some DYK noms

I nominated several of your newest NRHP articles at T:TDYK for main page exposure, including a couple that used the article's image and have a good chance of grabbing the lead spot. If you would care to take the time to look over the hooks at the aforementioned page, as well as make sure the hook fact includes an inline citation, that would be great. Thanks. --IvoShandor (talk) 06:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem, I keep an eye on the NRHP new article list. I have found there is almost always something in most articles that can be pulled out as a hook. I have gotten rather good at finding those facts hiding amongst the text. Your offline refs will be fine, they'll take them in good faith. --IvoShandor (talk) 16:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Borden Oaks

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--Dravecky (talk) 03:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Rosemount (Forkland, Alabama)

Just a minor thing on Rosemount. I believe the DeVesci family bought the house from a Mrs. Glover Legrae in the thirties or forties. My grandfather bought the house and 100 acres in the mid 1950s at auction (Brockway Jackson from Eutaw) and sold to Joe Simpson (prominent family from Birmingham) a couple of years later. He sold to Joyce Gravit (sp) around 1970, she sold to David Mitchell (from Georgia) in the mid 1970s, he sold to Marty Lyons (UA, NY Jets) in the 1980s who sold to the present owner around 1990. I didn't want to put this in because the dates are not exact and the DeVesci info is not for certain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thornhillplantation (talk • contribs)

John Erwin

If we had an article on the John Erwin who owned Glencairn (Greensboro, Alabama) and not just the voice actor who played He-Man, it would make for a dandy double-hook. Just a thought. - Dravecky (talk) 23:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Twin Oaks Plantation

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Gatoclass (talk) 04:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Glencairn (Greensboro, Alabama)

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Dravecky 23:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Hawthorne (Prairieville, Alabama)

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DYKadminBot (talk) 17:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for McGehee-Stringfellow House

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Dravecky (talk) 00:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Magnolia Cemetery

I really cannot reference Arch Winter- I worked with him on the Friends Board and know that he was instrumental in starting the fence and bequethed a considerable sum of money for its completion Burt11 (talk) 15:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Demopolis

		The Fauna Barnstar
		For your work on the Demopolis Chalk Formation. Abyssal (talk) 00:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Mooreville Chalk Formation

Yeah, you and someone else reverted my edits to the Mooreville Chalk Formation. Perhaps you can look into the validity of the changes I made(ie. there is NO SUCH TAXON as Isurus mantelli, or Lamna appendiculata). Just trying to help, and just becuase I don't have an account, doesn't necessarily warrant that what I contribute to has no value whatsoever, or that it can be reverted will-nilly. --72.68.194.181 (talk) 00:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It was not "reverted will-nilly". It was reverted because you deleted material that is sourced from a scientific paper, added something unreferenced that I couldn't find even 1 online source for, and you wiped out part of the table formatting, twice. If each taxon is incorrect, and I do understand that once seemingly valid taxa are later realized to be incorrect, then explain on the talk page and give a referenced source for your changes. But understand that as far as I know, without a reliable source to prove your claims, you could just as easily be an anonymous vandal as someone who wants to improve the article. Altairisfar_talk 03:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Sepkoski and the Wiki article on Isurus both say it didn't appear until the Cenozoic. Are older Isurus remains known now? Also, I'd like to thank Mr. IP for showing interest in helping this article. Thank you. :) Altair is right about sourcing, though. Wikipedia gets a lot of vandalism and sometimes it can be hard to tell good-faith anonymous editors from vandals if they're removing conent or if they accidentally mess something up (like the table formatting). Anyway, tanks to both of you for caring about our fossil-bearing rock formation articles. It got lonely contributing to them by myself. :) Abyssal (talk) 11:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

The I.P. address would be my son. As far as I know, Isurus mantelli never existed. Cretoxyrhina mantelli is the proper name, although it was originally referred to as Oxyrhina mantelli. The previous name might have been misconstrued, as the species Isurus oxyrhinchus, is a mako shark, and the name might have gotten mixed up. To comment by Abyssal, Most former Isurus species have been assigned to a new genus Cosmopolitodus (Glikman (1964)). The new genus was coined Cosmopolitodus for Miocene and early Pliocene members of the Great white lineage. --Spotty11222 (talk) 13:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC) EDIT: I also just wanted to add that the genus Lamna is invalid. Otodus obliquus was once known as Lamna obliquus, but the name changed. --Spotty11222 (talk) 13:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I googled I. mantelli and got results attributing to Aggasiz and saying it's extinct. That generally supports Altair's assertions. Any comments? Good catch on the Lamna/Otodus thing. Abyssal (talk)

I looked up Isurus mantelli in the paleobiology database, and the results came up that that species is nomen dubium. So it appears that the taxonomy of Isurus mantelli is questionable. From what I can see in Kent's book(I can't locate much know, as I am in a hotel for the Tucson show), Isurus mantelli appears to be very similar to a broad-form Isurus hastalis, formerly known as Isurus xiphodon. I can look it up further once I get back home on the 19th. --Spotty11222 (talk) 16:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

"Tucson show"? Abyssal (talk) 16:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm currently in a hotel staying for the Tucson Gem & Mineral Show. It pretty much is over for me, but I'm staying around, going around the city aimlessly. Sorry, I should have been more specific. --Spotty11222 (talk) 18:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

You both obviously know a great deal more than I, so I'll leave it in your hands. I just wanted to make sure that it was valid, I've had an anonymous vandal stalking some of my edits recently. So when I couldn't find a source for the changes, made only a few hours after I had expanded the article from being a couple of sentences long, it sent up a red flag. Altairisfar_talk 17:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Nonsense! Also, do you have a cite for that Halisaurus->Eonatator business? I'd be interested in seeing that. And adding it to the article. :P Abyssal (talk) 18:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I was going by the offline reference material in the Eonatator article. They appear to be sound. I'm planning on seeing what online sources, if any, that are available and then adding them to it. Right now though, I'm heading back outdoors, the weather is beautiful here today!!! Altairisfar_talk 21:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It's nice here too! :D Abyssal (talk) 22:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It was nice, but now it started raining and I had to leave and go to the hotel early. "You both obviously know a great deal more than I". Nonsense, your are quite well versed in matter regarding Wikipedia(something I have little/no patience for). --Spotty11222 (talk) 23:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Prairie Bluff, Alabama

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Gatoclass (talk) 05:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Invitation

You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Historic Sites ! :) doncram (talk) 06:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic Sites has opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject becoming, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram (talk) 17:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm happy to be a member and start making contributions soon! Altairisfar_talk 03:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Award on Alabama

Thanks for your thanks; lots of interesting topics in this state. ---Parkwells (talk) 20:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

List of National Historic Landmarks in Indiana

Hi, I saw that you made List of National Historic Landmarks in Alabama an FL, and I've been working to bring List of National Historic Landmarks in Indiana to that status. I'd really appreciate it if you could review my article for me. Thanks! Reywas92^Talk 22:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I've listed it at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of National Historic Landmarks in Indiana/archive1, and I invite you to comment. Reywas92^Talk 18:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Cedar Haven

You added a note to Cedar Haven that the property has been demolished, but no citation was given. At Roseland Plantation, you added a similar note and cited The heritage of Marengo County, Alabama, which you're using at Cedar Haven as a reference for something else. Did you mean to use this book to reference the Cedar Haven demolition also? Nyttend (talk) 21:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, when you get this resolved, would you please add the delisting notice at National Register of Historic Places listings in Marengo County, Alabama? Nyttend (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm an editor of Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia, and I spend a lot of my editing time trying to find pictures for Wikipedia articles. There's already an article on Cedar Haven, and your Flikr picture would be useful there...oh wait, you already know about Wikipedia :-) I'll try to find something online about the demolition. In the mean time, why don't you change the licensing for the Flikr photo? Nyttend (talk) 05:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't you perhaps find some local newspaper sources or something like that for the demolition? Nyttend (talk) 05:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Museums in Mobile, Alabama

Hey, I saw this edit which removed two categories and added the nrhp one for mobile county, alabama. I understand and agree with the county category going away, but would suggest leaving the "museums in mobile, Alabama" cat. dm (talk) 18:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

You are correct, I changed the cat to reflect the county, not the city. In any case, at WP:MUSEUMS we're moving towards a "Museums in X County/City, State" location category *and* and "Historic house museums in State" type category. dm (talk) 18:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Didnt modify Dauphin Al.

Not sure why i got a message saying i modified the Dauphin Island article but ive never visited that article. There are 9 computers where i work under this IP address so im not how it happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eventide11 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You must have initially viewed Wikipedia without signing in first and therefore received a vandalism warning intended for anonymous IP edits to that page. There is no warning regarding Dauphin Island on your personal talk page. Altairisfar_talk 16:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

AL statewide list

Good idea on varying architecture styles for the photos at the top. I've never thought of this before; my only consideration has really been getting the two columns at a roughly similar height. Nyttend (talk) 17:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

When I added the images originally I didn't think about it either. But, as I took a second look, it had an awful lot of Greek Revival houses/plantations. Altairisfar_talk 17:59, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:List of tallest buildings in Mobile

Thanks for taking that picture - it looks great! The last image was pretty poor quality - I figured that a low quality picture was better than no picture, hence the low resolution cropping. Cheers, Rai•me 18:35, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the incorrect statements - I thought the Marriott was close to the airport from GeoLocater, but obviously I'm not familiar with the area ;) I found statistics for the Lafayette Plaza Hotel and the Radisson Admiral Semmes on SkyscraperPage's city database, so I'll add those to the list (do you have pictures of either, or of the Royal St. Francis Building?). As for the other buildings, I don't think we can't include them without sources... Still, I'd like to nominate the list at FLC soon. Cheers, Rai•me 00:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The pictures all look great! Nice work. I have no problem holding off on the FLC for a few days - I am going to be away until Friday, so I wouldn't be able to address concerns brought up anyway. We could remove the three shortest buildings from the list if no sources are found for the other buildings you mentioned, but I'm not sure that is the best way to go as it would really only make the list less comprehensive. Another option would be to give height estimates for the buildings based on the average heights of buildings of similar floor counts and/or visual comparisons to nearby buildings. This has been done in the past for FLs, but I'm not particularly keen on doing it for verifiability reasons. As for the Battle House Hotel - its floor count may be low, but it appears that it is above the average height of a 7-story structure, seeing as it is almost identical in height to the Van Antwerp Building. Would you estimate that all of those other towers without height statistics taller than the Van Antwerp Building? We could set a new height cut-off of 120 feet to remove the cathedral, the Royal St. Francis Building, and the Battle House Hotel, but the list must be at least 10 entries to meet the FL criteria. Cheers, Rai•me 00:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for doing all of that work! That is great. Unfortunately, I sincerely doubt that the list will pass if any of the buildings contain height estimates - at recent building list FLCs, editors have gone through every single reference and noted which heights need additional sources to verify. So, I guess I will hold off on the nomination for awhile - I don't want to remove any of the buildings, but I am also fairly certain that it wouldn't get promoted (the Regions Bank Building also has no height reference - SkyscraperPage lists a height for the roof below the pyramidal cap, but no total height, so the height listed is an estimate based on the building's diagram. That building would also need a verifiable height reference for the list to be promoted). Anyway, hopefully Emporis/SkyscraperPage will update the Commerce Building's statistics soon. But again, amazing work! Your persistence is very admirable ;) Cheers, Rai•me 05:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I submitted your height estimate for Providence Hospital (as well as completion dates and other data from the Providence Hospital website) to SkyscraperPage, and it was posted on the main Mobile city page (SkyscraperPage does not list estimated heights on individual building data pages). The only building left now without any source for a height is Regions Bank Building, but since that building has a SkyscraperPage diagram, I think giving the height and noting it as an estimate would be acceptable. We also have a source listing it as the "tallest building in Mobile from 1929 to 1965", so it must be taller than the 230-foot Wachovia Building. That being said, do you think the list is ready to nominate at FLC? If it is okay with you, I would like to list you as a co-nominator, given all of the great work you did with getting pictures and searching for data. Cheers, Rai•me 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Mobile buildings

Hello! Great work on all that you have done to enhance the Mobile content on Wikipedia. Being from Birmingham, it has been a real treat to learn more about the Port City. I have also noticed that you have added many images for the city as well. I was wondering if you would be interested in uploading some of your pictures to the Mobile pages on Emporis. I am a senior editor for Emporis, but I do not get down there that often since I now live in Virginia. We can always use greater coverage of the city since we do not have any contributor living there. If not, that's cool too. Patriarca12 (talk) 00:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Just to let you know, i am a bit hurt by just now coming across your comment at Reywas92, from this edit, which seems to refer to me as the sole problem in an FLC. Indeed, I do have difficulty compromising with some FL reviewers and I don't disagree with your perspective in a summary way, but still your comment seems a bit unfair. In the context of me having done a lot on the AL NHL articles, too. In particular about what u said, revisiting the FLC, I think that Sephiroth_BCR's participation in the AL NHL FLC was abrasive or worse, and Orlady's participation there also was difficult (in light of her previous participation in the PR and FLC for the List of NHLs in NY). Certainly my participation in the AL NHL discussion may have brought in trouble, in particular attracted Orlady's attention there. I remain troubled by what has gone on, and frustrated by the prospect that getting the NY list to FL status seems unlikely, despite it being clearly among Wikipedia's best works, IMHO. doncram (talk) 19:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		Thanks for all of your great work on List of tallest buildings in Mobile! Rai•me 14:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for a great collaboration - you really deserve this after all the work you did to take photographs and find out the heights of those buildings. Cheers! Rai•me 14:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Georgia Cottage

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NW (Talk) 23:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Furman

Hi, I came across Furman Historic District and Furman, Alabama, and they look like they're talking about the same place. Since you created both articles, can you clarify how the boundaries of these two places are related? Are they distinctive enough for two full-fledged articles? Thanks. --Polaron | Talk 22:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I was just doing a sweep of duplicate articles and was asking how these are related. Since I'm not familiar with the place, I was just asking whether merging is suitable or not. Since you have said that merging is not suitable, then I will leave them to you. Thanks again for your help. --Polaron | Talk 12:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Help with page

Would you please visit the discussion page for Troy King, the Attorney General. I have been working to keep this page up to date but there is someone who feels that his page should include the name of an employee in his office that was mentioned in an article about salaries. I don't see the added value and I think that the rules surrounding living biographical inclusion says to err on the side of privacy. Since this person is not the subject of the biography and not an elected official, but rather only a state employee I am concerned that including such name could unfairly harm them. Furthermore there have been numerous rumors people have attempted to add to his page, some of which include references to this person. I feel that the determined inclusion of said employees name is a way to attach this stigma since the posting of the rumors have otherwise been disallowed. Please visit the page and offer your direction.Gray10k (talk) 02:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

State templates

No, I won't — because I don't know which ones you mean :-) Would you give me links for the ones you're talking about? Nyttend (talk) 14:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

No, I'd not seen those before. I've slightly redone the PA template, but OR is different enough that I don't feel comfortable reworking it when it's under discussion. I've made a few templates like this myself: at least Kansas and Kentucky, although there may be others that I'm not remembering right now. Nyttend (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Notability of schools

I noticed that you had nominated two middle schools for deletion. Usually articles about non-notable middle or elementary schools are merged into the article about their school district or their locality if there is no article about the school district. High schools are generally considered notable, even without references. Individual middle or elementary schools can be notable if they have won an award or qualify under the general notability guideline. You may wish to review the discussions about school articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Schools/archive and more recent discussions at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Schools In light of this, please consider withdrawing the nominations of the two middle schools. - Eastmain (talk) 05:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd prefer to let the afd process run its course. Thanks for the info though. I had already checked out the WP:SCHOOLS archive of past afd nominations involving schools and was aware that middle schools can be notable, prior to my nominations. I just don't see any indication that these two are. Altairisfar_talk 15:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

List of museums in Alabama

Hi, thank you for cleaning up many of the listings for museums in AL and adding in all the regions. However, some of your changes make the article very inconsistent with other lists of museums in other states. In particular, in the Type column, the convention has been to define museums differently, i.e. Natural history, instead of History - natural. This is also true for ethnic museums, like Native American and African American, living museum and historic house museum. Most of these types of museums have their own museum categories. See Category:Museums by type. I suggest using this convention.

Also, I have added back See also Nature centers in Alabama, since they offer natural history exhibits and displays.

I recommend putting back in the instructions for using the sortable table, because I don't think most Wiki readers will know about the feature, since most articles do not have such a table. Jllm06 (talk) 20:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I responded at your talk page. Altairisfar_talk 22:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It would be great to have actual articles for all the larger museums in each state. If you do create new articles, please remove the website listing from the List of museums, so that the actual website is on the article page. This is to minimize the issue of updating links everywhere. I see that needs to be done for some existing museums on the list now. Also, articles on museums should be included in their city or county, and they may fall into several museum type categories. Jllm06 (talk) 23:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for William Nichols (architect)

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Malbis Memorial Church

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Gorgas-Manly Historic District DYK

Could you please have a look at T:TDYK#Gorgas-Manly Historic District and address the issues I raised? Thanks, Ucucha 22:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gorgas-Manly Historic District

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

• Very nice article, thanks--and I'm not saying that just because my office used to be in Manly. Drmies (talk) 03:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! (And thanks for the correction for Tuomey Hall, oops...) Altairisfar_talk 03:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

No biggie. Did you see the link to the UA website, where both spellings occur on the same page? I asked my wife to confirm the spelling--she was in the first batch of Blount students. I added some tidbits in relation to Woods Quad and two of the buildings, which I don't think will require sources, but feel free to disagree. Woods Quad, BTW, is really nice, and Gorgas House is a trip--but you probably know all this. ;) Hope you enjoyed the game yesterday. Drmies (talk) 03:13, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks. ROLL TIDE!!! Altairisfar_talk 03:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

By the way...

Thanks for your help here. And that is my little girl in the picture! Can you do your thing at Greyhound Bus Station (Montgomery, Alabama) also? Thanks! Drmies (talk) 19:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I never would have noticed a person in that photo if you hadn't told me! Cute! I find it hard to believe for such an immensely historic building, but I can't find a listing for the Greyhound Bus Station in Montgomery on the Alabama Register or the National Register. Do you know if it was recently listed? I only have Alabama Register listings up to June 4, 2009, unless I call to find out. I didn't find anything in NRIS database itself or our NRHP infobox generator either. I did add the coordinates though. Altairisfar_talk 20:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

This is beyond my expertise--what I know is what's in the article, really. The archives for our newspaper are not so good or accessible or easily searchable (to put it mildly), and I'm sure there's a lot more to know, including its historic status. The plans for a museum were never executed; it's just a front (and there might be metaphorical truth in there too, if you catch my drift). But thanks for what you've done; don't make the call on my account, but if you want to shake a tree in regards to the bus station, that would be greatly appreciated, and not just by me. BTW, it's really a pleasure working with you. Take care, Drmies (talk) 20:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find out anything. I know someone here in Mobile who has worked closely with the historic commission in the past. I can see absolutely no reason why it couldn't be listed on the Alabama Register, since one of their main inclusion criteria is structures of "exceptional importance to the state." I would judge the station to be of state and national significance. The National Register is nit-picky about historic integrity, so if it was altered after the Civil Rights Era, that could be a reason for it not being listed there. I'm happy to work with you too. Later... Altairisfar_talk 21:04, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alabama Department of Environmental Management

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DYK for Joseph T. Smitherman Historic Building

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DYK for Sturdivant Hall

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DYK for Alabama Department of Environmental Management

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Materialscientist (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Roll Tide!

Congratulations, Altair! Drmies (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! You too! Altairisfar 05:44, 8 January 2010 (UTC)