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Happy editing! Cheers, Cassiopeia talk 08:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

Hello, I'm Cassiopeia. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Yamakawa Kikue, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Cassiopeia talk 08:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, the change that I made was to change to the correct translated name for the law that passed, and was referenced in the previous edit, and to link to the Wikipedia page for that law (which I’ve been doing to any orphaned / non-linked references to that law that I’ve been able to find - about 20 in total). I’m uncertain what source you think would be needed to change the name to the correct translation, and to link it to that page - which also contains the information about the age requirement. I DO in fact have a source I can link to, a newspaper article published the day after the law was passed, but it seems irrelevant to the Yamakawa Kikue article - belonging to the page about the law itself instead. I can add it now if you prefer, but I think it would make the page worse not better to do so. Absurdum4242 (talk) 08:34, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should note that the other change I made was to clean up the syntax / grammar of the sentence “Accompanied by” is not grammatically correct English. Absurdum4242 (talk) 08:37, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Absurdum4343, Good day. You are welcome to do copy edit (grammar and etc.) but if you change or add info, then you need to provide independent, reliable source such as from the newspapers and books to support your claim. You can use the "horizontal format" of Template:Cite web if the source is from the web. Source in any language is welcome as long as it meets the said requirement above. I suggest you to complete WP:TWA so you would familiar with Wikipedia fundamental guidelines to help you on Wikipedia editing. Let me know if you have any further questions. Stay safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 08:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there… umm… I honestly can’t see what information I have changed or added in this case, except for using the correctly translated name for the law, and adding the original Japanese name for the law in brackets - which is all contained in the Wikipedia article I linked to. Is there any chance you could explain to me which information in my edit you consider “new”? Otherwise, like I said I can link to the newspaper article, but that seems like a really messy / distracting way to do it? Absurdum4242 (talk) 08:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve redone it now with that reference included. I still think it distracts from the flow, but hopefully it helps. Absurdum4242 (talk) 09:09, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have provided the source. If you use books as source then use the horizontal format of Template:Cite book. Cassiopeia talk 09:09, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Manhood Suffrage Law

Hello! Thanks for your efforts to link this law in Wikipedia articles. Just as an FYI, I changed the title to Universal Manhood Suffrage Law, as this is the standard English translation for this law used at the time in the 1920s, by the Japanese government today, and in academic sources. This is because the law was the result of the Universal Manhood Suffrage Movement" in Japan drawing upon the concept of Universal manhood suffrage that was expanding around the world at the time. All instances of General Election Law on the web seem to derive from the English Wikipedia article with that idiosyncratic title created here in 2006. --Ash-Gaar (talk) 11:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, interesting - I’ve specifically been changing it away from that in articles, just because the main page was named that, and individual pages were about 50/50 which they used. I guess I have to go change the articles that I’ve already switched it in tonight 😆

I figured that fixing all the orphaned links / mentions to it would be a good first practice task, since I only started today.

I’ll get back on to that now I guess, thanks for taking the time to explain. And rename / redirect…

Actually, you might be able to tell me how to do that. I came across another poorly named page while I was doing those links, and I’d love to rename it / set up a couple of different redirects to it for other versions of the name. Absurdum4242 (talk) 11:42, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Transfermarkt

See WP:WPFLINKSNO. Much of Transfermarkt's content is user-edited making it a self-published, and therefore unreliable, source. As for other sources, your best bet is almost always going to be look at what sources are cited in similar articles. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your reply.

As far as I can tell from looking at other historical season pages for the UK / European seasons now, it’s a mix of either https://www.worldfootball.net or otherwise just absolutely nothing, and most all of the articles have “citations required” marks on them. Which is fine as far as it goes if that’s how everyone has decided to handle it.

If I use worldfootball.net for the other articles in the series (which I am happy to do) am I likely to have editors take those citations out as well, or is that generally considered a reliable site?

I apologise for taking your time, I’m a new editor with no real interest in soccer generally, but an interest in Japan, which is why I picked that article up from their rescue from deletion list. I’d like to do this right. Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for your support in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2005 Bangladesh-India border clash. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 10:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NP, I don’t have a dog in the fight either way - but it seems like a reasonably sourced article. It could do with being a little more neutral etc, which I’m eventually going to have a go at editing into it, but doesn’t seem delete-worthy Absurdum4242 (talk) 11:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 12:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While doing some more research, I noticed that this article “Deaths along the Bangladesh–India border” is a more overarching article about the problem, and contains a section about the 2005 clashes. If the article is deleted, it should be possible to move the information over to this article as a merge. In fact, I’m wondering if we should suggest that in the deletion deliberation, as a way to resolve it smoothly? (I’m not sure exactly how changing your vote / you withdrawing your article as creator would work here, since I’m new). It would be much more likely to achieve consensus if we did it that way? Absurdum4242 (talk) 14:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I Don't Think Merge is the correct solution nor is deletion, For example, Check the Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts. There are many minor skirmishes with lack of coverage yet no nomination for deletion, nor merging. I am comparing that with the clashes with Bangladesh and India is because the clashes have a similar pattern. It should be a separate page with the August 2005 Clash be added to that as well. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you understood that I disagree with both, Deletion and Merging. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 14:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I do understand that you disagree with both, I… wonder why though? I can’t see any information in your stand line article that isn’t (or at least couldn’t be with very minor editing) in the 2005 clashes section within the larger article.

I’m outside the politics, not having any allegiance to either side, and honestly I suspect politics WAS behind the deletion request, so I’m not thinking in terms of winning / losing culture war points which….. I assume maybe everyone but Liz in that selection talk is? Deletion nomination dude’s points were just kind of silly and factually incorrect, but at the same time I can’t see why YOU wouldn’t want the articles merged except for reasons of wanting to win / stop that guy - because the information itself would be preserved and present either way. Especially since it was the main article that popped up first, not yours, when I googled again today for more sources etc.

Suggesting merge seems like it can’t lose to me, but…

Anyway, the other reason I reached out was to give you a heads up that IF your article is deleted, it would be very easy to add anything lost to the other larger article, and THAT article should be completely proof against any chance of deletion, as it has sustained sources, over many years. Absurdum4242 (talk) 15:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's correct that the sources should be preserved, But I am still for it to be in the Encyclopedia. You can ask more questions, I don't mind, I might not be able to answer sometimes when I am in school or I am outside. If i have time, I can answer. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 15:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again! Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1979 Bangladesh-Indian skirmishes, Should I help you with anything? BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 07:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]