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Your Files for Upload request: Office of Rail and Road.png
[edit]Hello, and thank you for your request at Files for upload! The file has been uploaded. You can find it at File:Office of Rail and Road.png. See Wikipedia:Images#Using images to learn image syntax, or Wikipedia:Creation and usage of media files for other types of files. Regards,Warm Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 14:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
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- Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
- A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that
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- Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. (T324166)
- The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Mayor West (disambiguation) (September 8)
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Thank you for bringing Unserefahne's articles up for speedy delete
[edit]Thank you for bringing up all those articles created by the banned editor Unserefahne for speedy delete. I know that's not the most exciting work at Wikipedia, but it's important. Because of your hard work in helping clean up Wikipedia, I've gifted you the Cleanup Barnstar. (I know it's usually given for cleaning up articles, but I think it also applies to your work here.) Best, --SouthernNights (talk) 22:19, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- @SouthernNights: Thank you so much! user:A smart kittenmeow 08:07, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
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Requesting the undoing of the deletion of Merry Littlemen, possibly a few others
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Hey, the banned user Qwerck recently reached out to me as I know him on another forum... hm, not exactly to ask for help, more like to vent a bit, as he was disappointed that all of his contributions were removed, even ones that he thought improved things... anyway, I looked at the edit histories to try to understand this mess a little, saw that (at first glance) this outcome seems to have been kinda his own fault for not paying much attention to Wikipedia's rules and ignoring warnings, but I asked him if there was anything in particular that he wanted me to help try and save.
He mentioned Category:Merry Littlemen (and the former Merry Littlemen article), The Golden Ball (novel) and Ai and Ky in the Realm of the Invisible Numbers.
Regarding the latter two, I really don't know anything about them at all, but I wonder if it would be possible to request a proper (rather than speedy) deletion discussion, as at least at first glance, they seem like they could be legitimate articles that could be improved, or proper sources found.
Regarding the first, though, I'd like to request un-deletion with the understanding that I'd try to improve it so that there are no issues. There was indeed a real Soviet series with some animated series and book, and has an article (ru:Весёлые человечки) in the Russian Wikipedia that could be used as a basis. The article before it was deleted could indeed have used a lot of improvement and the English name should probably be "Merry Little Men", but it seems like it wouldn't be too hard.
Thanks. Esn (talk) 06:56, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Esn! Firstly I should clarify that I’m not an administrator, and so won’t be able to help with the undeletion request - I’ll stick {{admin help}} above your message in a second so that you can receive a response on that front if nothing else.
- I should also clarify that I have no previous knowledge of User:Qwerck, and so (if it helps, though I appreciate it may well not) this was in no way intended a personal act towards them. My involvement in this started when I saw Bbb23’s comment on AN/I here. As Qwerck had been blocked as a suspected sockpuppet of a banned user (User:Unserefahne), any edits they made on that account were in violation of (and evading) a ban. Per WP:BANREVERT, any contributions made while evading a ban are liable to be undone by any user - the reason it was me is because I saw the comment on AN/I, and had nothing better to do with my time, so decided to do the reverting myself.
- (To responding admin: as well as Esn’s undeletion request, if there’s anything worth saying that I’ve missed out or unintentionally misrepresented in this response, I’d appreciate being filled in on that as well! Many thanks in advance - and sorry! )
- Esn: Let me know if you have any questions about anything I’ve said, if you think I’ve misunderstood anything you’ve said, or if I’ve missed anything.
- All the best, user:A smart kittenmeow 07:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- No misunderstandings, and thanks for the prompt response! To be honest, it's been a while since I was really a prolific editor here, and I'm rusty on some of the procedures, so I appreciate the help. I don't have the time to devote too much attention to this matter either, but I'd like to fix a few of the more obvious things that could be fixed (that is, that I would be able to find proper sources for).
- Also, do you know if there is a way to see the titles of articles created by a certain user on Wikipedia that were deleted? Esn (talk) 07:57, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- I'd also like to add the request for an undeletion of Vovka and Winter in Faraway Tsardom, due to the reasons given here. Frankly, the sources already included in the article should have been enough to establish notability (although it's understandable that this was overlooked, as it seems that none were English publications). Esn (talk) 09:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Esn: I will try to answer some of the points you have raised.
- First, an easy one. If you go to https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org you can see a list of pages created by a particular editor. There are several options, such as to show deleted pages or non-deleted ones or both.
- "The sources already included in the article should have been enough to establish notability (although it's understandable that this was overlooked...)" is missing the point, because the deletion had nothing whatever to do with whether the subject was notable or not.
- Unfortunately there are people who, having been blocked from editing because of past problems, persistently try to evade the effect of the block by various methods, the commonest bring just continually creating new accounts to carry on. For these people, just blocking new accounts as they come up is ineffective, as each time they just create another account. One of the things we can do and which stand some chance of success is to let them find that their attempts to evade blocks just don't work, because anything they do while block-evading just gets deleted or reverted. It doesn't miraculously work immediately, but if it keeps happening, in a significant proportion of cases eventually the editor gets the message. Sometimes this has the unfortunate effect of losing some reasonable material, but in the long run the policy gains much more than it loses.
- I have checked all the references that this person put in the article Merry Littlemen. None of them even begins to show notability by English Wikipedia standards. (The article was also very poorly written, with glaring errors in English.)
- Wikipedia policy is that a blocked editor may not get another editor to help them evade the effect of a block, and any editor who helps them to do so may be subject to sanctions.
- The way for a blocked editor to return to editing, without seeing all their work reverted, is to request an unblock, and make it clear that they are willing in future to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, not to try to evade the block, whether by creating sockpuppet accounts, by soliciting help in evading the block from other editors, or by any other means.
- There is more that I could say, but I think that covers the main points. However, please feel welcome to ask me if anything I have said needs clarification. JBW (talk) 17:38, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, JBW. A few points/questions:
- 1. My help wasn't solicited, I offered it without being asked, and only for the content which I felt qualified enough to contribute to myself.
- 2. "Wikipedia policy is that a blocked editor may not get another editor to help them evade the effect of a block, and any editor who helps them to do so may be subject to sanctions." - Does this policy mean that any article that is first created by a banned Wikipedia user and then deleted as part of the sanctions against them can never be recreated again unless the banned user "requests an unblock, and makes it clear that they are willing in future to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines"? If there is indeed such a policy, it seems kind of easy to abuse... get yourself banned, then be the first to create articles about news items, thereby preventing Wikipedia from ever adding them.
- A smart kitten mentioned here that other editors may, if they wish, take "ownership of the contributions themselves", but wasn't very familiar with the rules there. Could I do something like that? Maybe I could get a source of the original deleted edits, copy it to userspace, and improve it there until it's good enough to add back in?
- I only want to salvage some content. Regarding Merry Littlemen, I was talking of the Russian Wikipedia article, not the English one, which I acknowledge was substandard. It's a series of books and films by notable authors/directors that was pretty widely known post-WW2. It would seem to be that WP:NOTTEMPORARY and WP:GNG should apply, particularly the part that says "Sources do not have to be available online or written in English."
- Esn (talk) 19:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- There is nothing to stop another editor from independently creating a completely new article on a subject for which one has been deleted as having been created by a block-evading editor. JBW (talk) 19:53, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks... is there a way to get the wikitext from before it was deleted, to make the job a bit faster? (I had a look at Qwerck's recently-deleted articles and frankly there are a number there that I know have corresponding well-cited articles on the Russian Wikipedia). *sigh*... well, if there isn't a way to easily get the wikitext, I guess I could use the existing Russian Wikipedia articles combined with archive.org's Wayback Machine, though that process is kinda tedious and long... Esn (talk) 19:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please note what I said above: "There is nothing to stop another editor from independently creating a completely new article on a subject for which one has been deleted as having been created by a block-evading editor." Trying to restore the deleted article, or something closely derived from it, is a very different matter. If the blocked editor sees that someone has substantially restored what they did, or something dertived from it, then that completely underminse the purpose of the deletion. Also, since you have openly stated that what you are doing follows from an offer to help the blocked editor to "save" material that they had created, you should read the policy on meatpuppetry, which covers this kind of editing on behalf of another editor. To put it absolutely bluntly, if you take any action which appears to be aimed at helping a blocked editor to fully or partially remove the effect of the block then you are likely to be blocked from editing too. JBW (talk) 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've read WP:MEAT and I see that the definition seems to be about 1) "new editors" as well as 2) "bringing like-minded editors into the dispute" - I don't think that applies to me, as I am not like-minded on a whole range of issues with Qwerck and have no intention of entering into any discussions regarding the validity of the user ban (also... I have a 17-year almost unblemished history on this site). In any case, I see a bunch of unsourced opinions in those deleted articles that I would not try to reproduce in any new versions I made. However, I would obviously try to reproduce things like film templates pretty closely to how they looked in the deleted article, because there's no way of getting around that... plot summaries may be pretty close as well (aside from any POV language in them).
- Please let me know whether that seems good-faith enough.
- If you're unsure, like I said, I could try creating the articles in user-space first then ask for input before they go into mainspace. Esn (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Also, frankly, that very section about meatpuppetry also says that it may be seen as derogatory and should be used with care, which I'm not sure it was here... the only real connection I have with Qwerck is that some of the topics we're interested in are the same (we're both interested in Russian/Soviet animation); that is why I was disappointed to see that some of the articles he made got deleted and am offering to create them again but without the issues they had before. Whether that counts as a service to him personally or to Wikipedia as a project, and which one takes precedence here, is up to others to decide, I guess. For what it's worth, he sent me a message today to not waste my time with this. Esn (talk) 21:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Answer to your email
[edit]I have thought long and carefully about your email, and I have also read your message on the editor's talk page. I do see what you mean about the editor possibly basing their edits on genuine dissatisfaction with the way the school operates, but even if that is so, I see the particular way of expressing their concerns as vandalism. Note that, for example, they did not replace "is a mixed sex comprehensive secondary school" with something like "is a queerphobic mixed sex comprehensive secondary school" or "is a mixed sex comprehensive secondary school which is run in a queerphobic way", which could have been a sincere attempt to express their concerns; they replaced it with "is a mixed sex queerphobic secondary school", as though a "queerphobic secondary school" were a category of school, on a par with a comprehensive secondary school. As for "Extremist views are praised with flags illegaly portraying societaly political views", I'm not at all sure exactly what that is intended to mean, but I think it extremely unlikely that it is a reasonable description of the running of an English comprehensive school, and if it were then I think it highly improbable that my searches for reports concerning the praising of "extremist" views would have failed to find anything. However, I shall ask a couple of other administrators to give opinions on the block. JBW (talk) 18:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
I have asked for comments from two administrators. Neither of them has responded yet, but I have had one unsolicited comment about the block from the administrator Ferret, who was not one of those I asked. Their comment was "These are purely disruptive edits that I would see as vandalism, regardless of how the editor may have felt they were justified, and blocks do not require 4 strikes and you're out. Good block. The editor can always appeal and explain themselves." JBW (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- @JBW: Fair enough. If two administrators (who are much more experienced than mysef) concur on this then I’m more than happy to defer to your judgements. Thank you for taking my email seriously and responsing - and I’m sorry for wasting yours and others’ time for what now seems like such a clear cut case. user:A smart kittenmeow 19:48, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for answering. However, I have now received a response to my request from Deepfriedokra, and although you have indicated that you don't need any further opinion, I may as well let you know about it. Deepfriedokra not only concurs that the block was justified, but actually goes further than that, by expressing the opinion that the edits could be revision deleted as violations of the policy on biographies of living persons. Well, I suppose they could, as there are unsubstantiated accusations, including accusations of illegal activity, against living persons, though personally I regard just reverting them, and blocking to prevent their being reinstated, as enough. JBW (talk) 20:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Hey! I was wondering if you might want to chime in on this since you were involved in the recently concluded discussion for its counterpart?
Cheers! Enix150 (talk) 23:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Enix150! I’ll take a look, though I can’t promise I’ll have enough coherent thoughts to write down lol.
- To be honest, with the emoji redirects that are coming to RfD, I’ve been thinking that it might actually be beneficial at this point to hold an ‘emoji redirect’ RfC. WP:REMOJI is currently part of an essay, not a guideline; and I think it would really help to have community consensus that would allow us to have a consistent baseline when thinking about these redirects.
- All the best, user:A smart kittenmeow 05:28, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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A kitten for you!
[edit]i love your username :3
-- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 08:35, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Maddy from Celeste thank you for the kitten! also, seeing this message on my talk page put a smile on my face, so thank you for that as well
- user:A smart kittenmeow 13:17, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
(Admin help request) Is this a suitable candidate for a history merge?
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I came across the article 2023–24 SA20, and was going to tag it with {{history merge}}, as it appears to be a simple cut-and-paste move from 2024 SA20. However, I noticed that 2023–24 SA20 has a very small amount of history prior to the copy-and-paste move. As I’m not overly familiar with histmerges, I’m therefore not sure if this is a barrier to performing a history merge/whether or not this is a suitable candidate for a history merge.
All the best, user:A smart kittenmeow 11:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- The page should have been moved, rather than the content cut and pasted. There is attribution in the editing history, but even so, merging the histories is a clearer way of dealing with it, so I shall history merge them. Thanks for pointing this out. JBW (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
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Please don't be that guy
[edit]There are three problems with this revert -
First, it is procedural ("a change that should be made by consensus").
Second, a bold edit has consensus until someone reverts it with a substantive rationale. See wp:PGBOLD.
Third, you don't give a substantive rationale. While you add "it widens one of the redirect guideline’s reasons for deletion," you don't say whether you believe that is a good idea or a bad one. And you don't give a rationale for that belief.
See generally, wp:DRNC. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Butwhatdoiknow: Thank you for your message. I’ve taken on board your feedback, and I’ll try to do better next time. (You may be interested in my response on WT:R.)
- All the best, user:A smart kittenmeow 22:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 02:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Trouted /s
[edit]Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
You have been trouted for:
accidentally published last edit before finished
Seeing this in my watchlist made me smile, but in a good way! ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 18:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- @LunaEatsTuna: thanks for the trout! your message about the fact you seeing my edits made you smile, made me smile
:)
- All the best, user:A smart kittenmeow 22:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- I blame my fingers/hj, my hand was stimming at the time I hit the first ‘move forward with edit’ button, then before I knew it I’d accidentally hit the ‘publish’ button as well without even so much as an edit summary
:P
user:A smart kittenmeow 22:55, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- I blame my fingers/hj, my hand was stimming at the time I hit the first ‘move forward with edit’ button, then before I knew it I’d accidentally hit the ‘publish’ button as well without even so much as an edit summary
Joyous Season
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Merry Christmas
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Dicklyon (talk) 07:10, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Rating articles
[edit]Hi there, I noticed you've been classifying articles recently - I wanted to make sure you were aware of the WP:RATER tool? As this may make your work easier. Thanks. -Kj cheetham (talk) 16:25, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Kj cheetham: Thanks for the message (and apologies for the delay)! I am aware of Rater; however, I do most of my editing on mobile at the moment, so I don’t know if the tool would currently work well for me. In addition, the edits I’ve been making have been mostly to resolve rating conflicts/merge duplicate banners, and I don’t know if Rater would be best/work well for these types of maintenance tasks (granted, though, due to editing on mobile, I haven’t actually checked on this front). Thank you for letting me know about it though All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 21:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not to worry about the delay. :) I personally use Rater for solving rating conflicts, but I've never tried it on mobile. Keep up the good work in any case! -Kj cheetham (talk) 16:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup!
[edit]Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
- Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
- The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.
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A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Barnstar of Diligence | |
For your work on helping sort out talk page banners! Kj cheetham (talk) 12:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC) |
- @Kj cheetham: Thank you! My brain likes a good repetitive task sometimes... —a smart kitten[meow] 17:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
ANI
[edit]I'd just like to say that:
- I think you did a good job of your report at ANI
- I think it was the right thing to do
- If the ANI thread turns into a cesspit or otherwise steamrolls away, it doesn't reflect badly on you for starting the thread, it reflects badly on the other editors
Maybe this is unnecessary, and you aren't worrying about ANI at all. But I know I would be anxious if I had started the thread, and a word of reassurance is never amiss. Happy editing, 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 22:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Cremastra. I really appreciate the message /gen
- All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 22:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to echo Cremastra's sentiments as well, especially point #2. - I think it was the right thing to do. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 19:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Redirect category shell hatnote
[edit]Hello friend. I saw this edit and was wondering if it's correct to put banners in the redirect category shell? The documentation for the template says the h parameter is for hatnotes, so maybe it'd fit better outside the shell? Thanks! –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Novem Linguae, thanks for the message To be honest, I moved it inside the shell because - in my mind at the time - it seemed like it would fit better within the shell than outside it, and because I may have thought at the time that the banner looked better inside of the shell than on top of it (looking back now, though, I'm conflicted about this!).However, since receiving your message, I've realised that I haven't actually read anywhere that it's okay and/or standard to put these sorts of banners in the shell - I remember the hatnote at Barron Trump being the first example I saw of custom text within the {{Rcat shell}}, and I think my brain must have extrapolated from there regarding adding the {{humor}} banner in the
h=
parameter! If you think the banner would be better outside the redirect category shell, I have no objection to you undoing my edit (or, alternatively, I'm more than happy to self-revert). Apologies for the potentially incorrect edit, and thanks again for the message :) All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 20:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC)- Sounds good. I'll go ahead and undo. Thanks for the quick response. Happy editing :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Lewisham North, etc.
[edit]Hi,
Thanks for your recent input at Talk:Lewisham North (disambiguation). Everything is now back where I'd put it on January 8th. I'd assumed that this would be an uncontroversial move on the basis of page views. We live and learn.
There are many analogous situations involving other UK parliamentary constituencies past and present, where [[X (UK Parliament constituency)]]
is primary on the basis of page views, but the disambiguation page is at [[X]]
instead of [[X (disambiguation)]]
- examples are "Hackney North and Stoke Newington" and "Lewisham East", but there are many more. Do you know of any way to streamline the process of bulk-moving all such pages? Is this sort of thing worth the trouble, in your opinion?
Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jean-de-Nivelle, and no problem! For uncontroversial moves, it'd be easiest to just boldly move the disambiguation pages and retarget the resulting redirects (although given the recent reversion, maybe that might not be the best idea here). Otherwise, it's possible to start an RM for multiple pages at once (assuming you're not already aware of that, apologies if you are). There's the risk of a WP:TRAINWRECK-type situation with that; although - if the primary topic is abundantly clear for all the nominated pages (as it seems like it might be from the Hackney North and Stoke Newington example) - that might be less of a worry than otherwise.Let me know if I've explained anything poorly or if you have any other queries. All the best :) —a smart kitten[meow] 20:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's all very clear, thank you. It's just that I'm not very experienced in this sort of thing, and I'm still not really sure why my page move of Lewisham North was reverted. The pagemover involved (NmWTfs85lXusaybq) doesn't seem inclined to be communicative. I'm reluctant to make more bold moves in case it all just becomes a fruitless time sink. I suppose the thing to do would be to come up with a better list of all the candidates for moving and make a decision on that basis. I notice you didn't respond to my last question... Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle: I'm not sure why the move was reverted either, given that WP:MALPLACED didn't seem to apply in that case. To answer the question, personally, I'd say it's worth doing when the parliamentary constituency is the primary topic for a term (although I can only speak for myself - please don't feel compelled in any way to take on such a task, if you would rather not for any reason).As it happens, I'm currently in the middle of going through a list of constituencies on Wikipedia for another reason, so if I come across any similar situations where there should be a redirect from the base name to the constituency, I might open individual RMs for them myself. (Also, apologies - I should have answered your question in my last message). All the best :) —a smart kitten[meow] 22:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. This issue is sort of a side-project of a side-project. I began following and selectively reverting the work of a very prolific block-evader, which led me to wonder how best to rationalise linking in articles on UK politics... and CBBC... and Hampshire... and National Trust properties... and EastEnders. You start tugging on a loose end, and suddenly everything begins to unravel. I think the lesson to be learnt may be that when things start unravelling, I should stop tugging. Thanks again, and best wishes. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle: I know that feeling all too well! I started an RM at Talk:The Beekeeper (album), from which I randomly checked the list of current RMs, from which I found your RM, from which I found WP:NCUKPARL, from which I decided to start going through UK parliamentary constituencies to add
{{R from less specific name}}
to already-redirected base names, from where I noticed inconsistencies in disambiguation pages relating to place names/stations & started this project that I might never get around to 😅. Best wishes to you also :) —a smart kitten[meow] 23:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle: I know that feeling all too well! I started an RM at Talk:The Beekeeper (album), from which I randomly checked the list of current RMs, from which I found your RM, from which I found WP:NCUKPARL, from which I decided to start going through UK parliamentary constituencies to add
- Thank you. This issue is sort of a side-project of a side-project. I began following and selectively reverting the work of a very prolific block-evader, which led me to wonder how best to rationalise linking in articles on UK politics... and CBBC... and Hampshire... and National Trust properties... and EastEnders. You start tugging on a loose end, and suddenly everything begins to unravel. I think the lesson to be learnt may be that when things start unravelling, I should stop tugging. Thanks again, and best wishes. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle: I'm not sure why the move was reverted either, given that WP:MALPLACED didn't seem to apply in that case. To answer the question, personally, I'd say it's worth doing when the parliamentary constituency is the primary topic for a term (although I can only speak for myself - please don't feel compelled in any way to take on such a task, if you would rather not for any reason).As it happens, I'm currently in the middle of going through a list of constituencies on Wikipedia for another reason, so if I come across any similar situations where there should be a redirect from the base name to the constituency, I might open individual RMs for them myself. (Also, apologies - I should have answered your question in my last message). All the best :) —a smart kitten[meow] 22:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's all very clear, thank you. It's just that I'm not very experienced in this sort of thing, and I'm still not really sure why my page move of Lewisham North was reverted. The pagemover involved (NmWTfs85lXusaybq) doesn't seem inclined to be communicative. I'm reluctant to make more bold moves in case it all just becomes a fruitless time sink. I suppose the thing to do would be to come up with a better list of all the candidates for moving and make a decision on that basis. I notice you didn't respond to my last question... Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Harry the house
[edit]Hello again,
Just FYI, this was Harry the house, and so was this.
Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 16:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle: Thanks for the heads up :) Best, —a smart kitten[meow] 00:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
- Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
- Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
- Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
- The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
Sorry for the rollback
[edit]I must have accidently clicked my mouse before I shut it off as I was packing up my laptop. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 15:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mcmatter: No problem at all - these things are easily done :) All the best , —a smart kitten[meow] 15:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2024 February newsletter
[edit]The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.
Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:
- AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
- Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
- MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
- Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
- Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
- voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.
As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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Editor experience invitation
[edit]Hi a smart kitten :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 09:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Clovermoss! I can't promise that my answers will be that good, but I'll try and give it a go when I can :) —a smart kitten[meow] 17:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Elsa_Beskow_plaque notability?
[edit]Hi smart kitten. You recently accepted this page into mainspace. It doesn't seem notable to me and I'm wondering on what basis you found it notable? Thanks Cabrils (talk) 06:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cabrils :) For context, I moved this page back into mainspace while reverting some of the many inappropriate draftifications made by the draftifying editor - see AN/I thread for reference. I was therefore reverting the draftifications as apparent pagemove-vandalism, and I can only apologise if the subject of this page is not actually notable. (Looking at the page logs, Alexandermcnabb marked the page as reviewed the previous time it was moved out of draftspace, so he may be able to help you with your query.)
- Let me know if you have any further queries, and/or if I've explained or worded anything poorly. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 06:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's helpful. Cabrils (talk) 06:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
WikiCup 2024 March newsletter
[edit]The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.
The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:
- Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
- Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
- AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
- Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
- MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
- Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews
In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.
Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
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- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)
- The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ*ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
- Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.
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- thank you ❤️ it means a lot./gen —a smart kitten[meow] 06:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
[edit]Thx for noticing that little issue with the filter, thanks!
Geardona (talk to me?) 03:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- no problem Geardona, and sorry for the late response :)
- to be honest, at first, i wasn't sure that this filter would be a good idea - i can't remember exactly why, but maybe i assumed that it would be set to 'warn', and thought that it would have too many false-positives/be too difficult to maintain (due to the large variation of possibilities for rcat redirect titles)? anyway -- i ended up changing my mind completely - i now think that having a log/tag-only filter for uncategorized redirects is great/gen, and it's great to be able to see a list of recently created redirects that need rcat-tagging. so thank you, for requesting the filter in the first place :)
- all the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 11:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hope you are doing well too! Seeing the filter running was really nice after all that time, my next project with it is to make it into a nice page so that things get removed when they have rcats. Thank you too your kind message! Geardona (talk to me?) 11:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
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WikiCup 2024 April newsletter
[edit]We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.
Our current top scorers are as follows:
- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
- voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
- Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
- SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
- Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
- Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.
Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.
If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
WikiCup 2024 May newsletter
[edit]The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.
The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
- Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
- SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
- BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
- voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.
The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.
Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
- The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.
- This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).
- Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351
- The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
- The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.
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WikiCup 2024 July newsletter
[edit]The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.
The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:
- Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
- Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
- AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.
The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.
Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
WikiCup 2024 August newsletter
[edit]The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:
- Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
- Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
- AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
- BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.
Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.
Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).
- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
- An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
- Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).
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Administrator Elections: Call for Candidates
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The administrator elections process has officially started! Interested editors are encouraged to self-nominate or arrange to be nominated by reviewing the instructions at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Call for candidates.
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- October 8–14 - Candidate sign-up (we are here)
- October 22–24 - Discussion phase
- October 25–31 - SecurePoll voting phase
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- Prospective candidates are advised to become familar with the community's expectations of adminstrators, which are much higher than the minimum requirement of having extended confirmed status. This includes reviewing successful and unsuccessful RFAs, reading the essay Wikipedia:Advice for RfA candidates, and possibly requesting an optional poll on their chances of passing.
- The process will have a one week call for candidates phase, a one week pause to set up SecurePoll, a three-day period of public discussion, followed by 7 days of no public discussion and a private vote using SecurePoll.
- The outcomes of this process are identical to making requests for adminship. There is no official difference between an administrator appointed through RFA or administrator elections.
- Administrator elections are also a valid means of regaining adminship for de-sysopped editors.
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Administrator Elections: Discussion phase
[edit]The discussion phase of the October 2024 administrator elections is officially open. As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:
- October 22–24 - Discussion phase
- October 25–31 - SecurePoll voting phase
- November 1–? - Scrutineering phase
During October 22–24, we will be in the discussion phase. The candidate subpages will open to questions and comments from everyone, in the same style as a request for adminship. You may discuss the candidates at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Discussion phase.
On October 25, we will start the voting phase. The candidate subpages will close again to public questions and discussion, and everyone will have a week to use the SecurePoll software to vote, which uses a secret ballot. You can see who voted, but not who they voted for. Please note that the vote tallies cannot be made public until after voting has ended and as such, it will not be possible for you to see an individual candidate's tally during the election. The suffrage requirements are different from those at RFA.
Once voting concludes, we will begin the scrutineering phase, which will last for an indeterminate amount of time, perhaps a week or two. Once everything is certified, the results will be posted on the main election page. In order to be granted adminship, a candidate must have received at least 70.0% support, calculated as Support / (Support + Oppose). As this is a vote and not a consensus, there are no bureaucrat discussions ("crat chats").
Any questions or issues can be asked on the election talk page. Thank you for your participation. Happy electing.
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Administrator Elections: Voting phase
[edit]The voting phase of the October 2024 administrator elections has started and continues until 23:59 31st October 2024 UTC. You can participate in the voting phase at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Voting phase.
As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:
- October 25–31 - SecurePoll voting phase
- November 1–? - Scrutineering phase
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Any questions or issues can be asked on the election talk page. Thank you for your participation. Happy electing.
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WikiCup 2024 November newsletter
[edit]The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!
The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!
All those who reached the final will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field.
- Generalissima (submissions) wins the featured article prize for 3 FAs in round 4, and 7 FAs overall.
- Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize for 23 FLs overall.
- MaranoFan (submissions) wins the featured topic prize for 9 articles in featured topics in round 1.
- Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured content reviewer prize for 110 FA/FL reviews overall.
- BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize for 58 GAs in round 5, and 70 GAs overall.
- Fritzmann (submissions) wins the good topic prize for 6 articles in good topics in round 2.
- Sammi Brie (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize for 45 GA reviews in round 2, and 78 GA reviews overall.
- BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 131 Did you know articles overall.
- Muboshgu (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 15 In the news articles in round 1, and 36 overall.
Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2025 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement!
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).
- Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
- Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.
- Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
- RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.
- An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
Fastily deletions
[edit]Hello A smart kitten -- Just a quick note to say if VivaLasAlamos was in good faith I will eat my hat. CrowdedMusic is fine; some of the others, perhaps. Doing this sort of analysis without seeing the deleted content is like crossing a busy road with a blindfold. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Espresso Addict: Thank you for your message. I've been thinking about what you've said over the past few days - I apologise if I inadvertently gave the impression that I was ignoring you. If I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, I'm not sure that I'd agree with the characterisation of what I've said in that discussion - as, even imagining that the deleted pages were (for an example) overtly self-promotional, I could still see the enquiries to Fastily as being honest questions by editors who genuinely didn't understand why the pages had been deleted/what Wikipedia's issues with the pages were; and, although I can't form a judgement based on VivaLasAlamos' deleted userpage, what I can see of four of the other deleted pages ([1] [2] [3] [4], albeit with the last one I'm assuming that what was pasted onto Fastily's talk is what was in the deleted page) doesn't - for me - tip over the line such that I wouldn't be able to view the enquiries from their creators as those sorts of honest questions.
- However, I do take your point that my evaluations of whether or not I was able to view the editors' talk page enquiries to Fastily as having been left in good faith were made without being able to see all of the pages that they had created. I'll make sure to keep that in my mind for the future, in case I'm involved in a similar discussion again. /gen
- Thanks again for leaving me the message, and I hope you're doing well. (P.S. As a side note, out of my own interest & given that it has been a focus of some discussion, would you be willing to email me the deleted wikitext of User:VivaLasAlamos? No worries if you'd rather not, of course.)
- All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 22:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello smart kitten -- No worries, honestly I'd forgotten all about leaving this somewhat intemperate note. Without defending Fastily's behaviour in any way, admins who work in deletion interact a great deal with editors who are definitely not good faith and who request return of deleted content, which in my experience is frequently not at all what they state it is. (I find there's very little correlation between the merit of the request and the language in which it is expressed; honestly upset good-faith contributors can be quite vitriolic, while people who I am almost certain are undisclosed paid editors often politely state policy.) My approach is just to decline to undelete, and disengage if they ask repeatedly, but I can see that someone who deletes at least 100x more than I do might get a bit grumpy over time. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 22:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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