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The Wikipedia Signpost: 9 November 2009

Thank you for the news! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:23, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Smile!

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Thanks! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Question

Hey, I'm wondering if there's a way I could reveal and come to grips with my Wikipedia past. I want to bury it somehow, but I don't know how. I don't mean on this account, but on my past accounts. I started a new account, and don't use this one anymore, but I'd like to talk to you off wiki about figuring out a way to put my past behind me and becoming an honest and up front contributor like I was back in 2005 and 2006. Spinach Monster (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

My email address is wikipedianobody@yahoo.com. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 21:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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This barnstar is awarded to A Nobody for catching canvassing in a recent AFD. I am always amazed at how you are able to catch these subtle edit differences that so many other editors would miss. Ikip (talk) 14:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Archives

Hey A Nobody, I see that you want to make your archives more user-friendly, ever consider putting a search field in the list, just replace {{archives}} with {{archives|search=yes}}. It will at least make your sorting of them easier, and only takes one edit. I have it on my talk page if you want to see an example, and how it works. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 20:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I will check out your talk page in a second. I might try a few things over the next few days. Thanks! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 16 November 2009

Thank you for the update! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 14:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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For your well thought and reasoned analysis of candidates are RFA, they give everyone else pause for thought :) AtheWeatherman 21:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
What a pleasant surprise! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 13:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your contribution to my RfA. I have added myself to category:Wikipedia administrators open to recall, but I hope to wield the mop in such a way that you will find your concerns were unfounded, and that we shall never have to meet there. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome and congratulations! I always respect and appreciate when someone I oppose or express concerns about takes the oppose and criticisms in stride and is conciliatory afterwards. Kudos for handling my comments maturely; that alone is being off to the right start! Good luck with the new abilities! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 22:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Battles of Macrohistorical Importance

Dude, please don't get caught in the trap I did. I ordered a book on airborne warfare from these publishers, only to find they were reprints of wikipedia articles, complete with citation tags and other such wiki-related ephemera. I wasted a lot of money on it. Skinny87 (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

While I haven't ordered any of these books, I can second why Skinny says - they're just collections of articles assembled by a bot. Note that a reasonable large Wikipedia article is 10-20 pages when printed, so the book isn't even likely to include many articles. You could do the same for less on your home printer using Wikipedia's book generating feature (see Help:Books if you're not familiar with this). Nick-D (talk) 11:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate the heads up here and to I think Fram as well who also pointed out who these publishers are. Is it actually legal for them to do that? On another note, though, for as much as I am online, I really do still enjoy reading, especially when bathing or when a passenger in a car and I have long thought it would be neat if Wikipedia put out some print copies of their more fascinating articles in the manner of how this site recently published a compilation book of their best lists. Regards, --A NobodyMy talk 23:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
It's legal. See GFDL#Commercial_redistribution. It was almost intended.--chaser (talk) 03:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
So, anyone could legally make a compilation book of Wikipedia articles if he/she wants and sell them? Wow! I would think more people would do that then. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 14:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

You're repeating yourself in the discussion. Assuming people have read every post in the discussion before replying to everyone !voting delete is a reasonable courtesy.--chaser (talk) 23:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Kimber Henry article

Hey, I don't want to be jumping the gun or anything, but do you believe there's any possibility that the Kimber Henry article could remain open as a result of recent activity? I had previously abandoned all hopes of trying to keep the article open, but recent developments have opened up my interest once again. Is it likely that the user in question will simply re-direct the article once more when his ban is lifted? Do you have any opinion on the matter? Thanks. Maxpower03 18:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Per WP:BRD, the user has to seek a consensus now on the talk page to have what he wants to stick and if he continues to edit-war with you and anyone else, he will likely be blocked again. So, yeah, you have a good chance. The key is to find and add as many sources as inline citations to the article as possible and especially for sections on development and reception. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 15:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks a lot. Maxpower03 13:45, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
You are welcome! Happy to help! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 14:58, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Any reasonable and honest editor

This comment comes close to the personal attacks that I warned you about a few weeks ago. You're implying that Abductive is being dishonest, and that is not OK. Worse, you two are talking past each other about the independence of the sources. His position is that the subject does not meet the GNG and so is not notable. Your position, I guess, is that it is notable independent of the GNG and so the lack of independent sources is irrelevant. If that's your position, state it instead of implying that another editor is dishonest. Refactoring would be wise.--chaser (talk) 00:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

How is that a personal attack? You are reading too much into this. And I wasn't being ad hominem either, targeting not one person, just complaining about the lame argument some deletionists often are seen making in the AFDs. Dream Focus 00:19, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree with DreamFocus. Read carefully, as there is no disagreement on reliability, there is no possible implication, even a far-fetched one, that Abductive is dishonest, and Abductive's "unreasoning brute" comment is similarly inappropriate.John Z (talk) 03:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Consider moving your proposed closing summary?

Hello A Nobody. Would you consider moving your proposed closing summary that you posted at AN (about merging during AfDs) over to WT:AFD? I was actually hoping that, when making your summary, you would talk more specifically about what was said in the discussion. (How many thought this, how many thought that, etc.) EdJohnston (talk) 23:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, if you would like me to; however, I am under the impression from AN that it might be best if someone who has not commented in the discussion summarized in the interest of being the most neutral/unbiased? Regards, --A NobodyMy talk 14:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I thought of a new idea for finding a fair admin to close that discussion: we make a list of admins that are acceptable to both of us. Please share your thoughts at WP:Administrators' noticeboard#Request discussion closure. Flatscan (talk) 03:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello A Nobody. On the theory that I may be the admin who tries to close the WT:AFD discussion, I have left a note over at WP:AN#Request discussion closure. I also left a question at User talk:Flatscan#Your post at WP:AN trying to determine what change would result if consensus is found in the thread. I may also have a follow-up question for you, since I don't fully understand the views you expressed in the thread. EdJohnston (talk) 05:01, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
You seem neutral/reasonable enough to close the discussion, but I do not see any clear consensus for any actual change there as everyone concedes that in at least some cases merging during AfDs is okay and anything else will be instruction creep or something ignorable per WP:IAR anyway and again as I said, it looks far more like a vocal minority more concerned about having their deletion nominations succeed than about making the most of content per WP:PRESERVE. Save of course instances where the content in question needs to be removed for legal reasons in which we can all agree nothing should be merged from it, all good faith editors would rather we make the most of content to improve articles not under discussion than to add just another useless redlink anyway per User:T-rex/essays/the more redirects the better, i.e. ultimately an Afd need not interfere with benefitting other articles on a volunteer site in which someone may have the time to work on a merge the week of the discussion but not afterwards due to vacation, work, etc. If the merge concerns non-hoax, libel, or copyvio content, then there is no legitimate reason to oppose its occuring. I cannot imagine anyone seriously being bothered by a non-libelous redirect. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 14:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
If you're not challenging what people say are the attribution rules, don't you agree that if any merging is done, by anyone, it makes a plain deletion result of the AfD impossible? (Unless whoever does any merging is standing ready to remove the merged material if the AfD actually closes with delete). From your comments, I am not clear on who you are expecting to clean things up if the AfD actually closes with delete. Do you have an extra gimmick to solve that situation that I am missing? EdJohnston (talk) 17:56, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
If merging makes a plain deletion result of the AfD impossible, then that is totally fine by me, so long as it is not to save something legally damaging to the project. No AfD for something that is not a hoax or legally damaging (libel or copy vio) should ever close as "delete" when a merge or redirect location exists per WP:BEFORE, WP:PRESERVE, and User:T-rex/essays/the more redirects the better. Deletion is supposed to be a last resort for content that is totally unsalvageable or litterally dangerous. Number of votes to delete should never trump our ability to improve other articles that might benefit from the content in an article nominated for deletion. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 19:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Excuse the follow-up question, but wouldn't that imply that anyone who is opposed to deletion of an article can veto its deletion, just by taking some of its content and merging it into another article? EdJohnston (talk) 21:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Only if it actually benefits the other article. Let us say for example we have a list of battles that has oodles of references for each battle, but the article is nominated for deletion, and strangely enough one or more of the actual individual battle articles not nominated has no or only a couple inline citations. Thus, moving a couple sentences from the article nominated for deletion to the individual battle article (for which existence no one is challenging) winds up improving an article no one could possibly get deleted. As for the example battle list, it is not libelous, not a hoax, nor a copy vio. Clearly, it is to Wikipedia benefit to make use of the referenced content from the list in the other article(s) even if a numeric majority do not like the list article, which could as a compromise just be redirected to Battles or something at worst anyway. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 21:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Welcome message

Sending a welcome message to all anonymous IPs, assuming they are new users, is an unnecessary and annoying formality. 71.178.189.162 (talk) 00:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

But if they're not new, then the IP is dynamic and they may be new in the future. I wouldn't let one detractor slow you down.--chaser (talk) 03:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 23 November 2009

Thank you for the update! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 16:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Unwelcome

You are unwelcome on my talk page. Do not return. Hipocrite (talk) 11:49, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanksgiving

Thank you, A Nobody! I wish you a Happy Thanksgiving in return! Best. Acalamari 17:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Agreed - happy Thanksgiving, AN! :D
Yeah, i hope you have a wonderful thanksgiving as well. estemshorn (talk|sigs) 18:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 18:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello A Nobody, Dylan620 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
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--Dylan620 (contribs, logs, review) 18:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 18:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Happy Thanksgiving! I also live in the Western USA so it isn't Thanksgiving here yet, but it will be tomorrow.December21st2012Freak Happy Thanksgiving! 19:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 19:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the turducken, my sister served that at her wedding a couple years ago. We get to celebrate two Thanksgivings this year since we did Canadian in October.--kelapstick (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I still have yet to try it... Best, --A NobodyMy talk 08:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy thanksgiving to you too, make sure you eat all of that turducken! — Oli OR Pyfan! 19:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, we just had regular turkey this time.  :) --A NobodyMy talk 08:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Yum! And a very happy Thanksgiving to you to my friend. FeydHuxtable (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Cheers! --A NobodyMy talk 08:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Have fun Nobody! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:40, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Ditto - sweltering here but the mangoes have arrived..it's mango season :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
I hope you enjoyed them! Happy Editing! --A NobodyMy talk 08:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Reel fishing games with special controller.jpg

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Spam

Why are you spamming everyone about your stupid American holiday? Imagine if someone posted spam messages to everyone about a national holiday you had never heard about — would you like that? Offliner (talk) 12:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not spam, it's showing Wikilove. estemshorn (talk|contrib) 16:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
That's the holiday spirit! I'll be sure to send you a lump of coal for boxing day.--chaser (talk) 20:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Bah, ignore him. Thanks for the holiday cheer, and I hope you had a good time too! The turducken looks lovely, unfortunately I only had a turkey. Got up early yesterday for Black Friday sales though and got some great bargains! Very tired now, though, even though it's late Saturday. All the best, Matthewedwards :  Chat  06:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I didn't even get to have turkey on turkey day :( Everybody ate thinking the turkey was done, but it actually wasn't, so it was put back in the oven. by the time it was done i was too full to eat a piece of it. estemshorn (talk|contrib) 08:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I watched Thankskilling after visiting both maternal and paternal grandparents. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The October 16 RfC on live merges during AfD is about to be closed

Hello A Nobody. Please see User talk:EdJohnston#Draft WT:AFD closing opinion on live merges. If you wish, you may add your comment below the statement on whether it properly summarizes the RfC discusssion. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, as I said, no good faith editor here to improve our project would take issue with a merge during a deletion that actually improves the article being merged to. But anyway, yes, the instructions are just to be careful, not to avoid it altogether, i.e. there is no policy nor should there be per WP:IAR that actually precludes doing so. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 15:36, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you...

Every little bit helps. Much appreciated. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:18, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Glad to read that! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 21:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

List of creatures in the Resident Evil series, reduced to one entry.

The List of creatures in the Resident Evil series is now reduced to one entry. You commented on the talk page previously about reducing it. Was this what you were discussing? [1] Dream Focus 17:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up, but I had the page watchlisted. I have restored only those that are referenced. Per WP:BRD, we must now discuss. Any revert of me without reaching consensus will be disruptive. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 21:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 30 November 2009

Thank you for the update! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 16:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Philip R. Bjork

Hello! Your submission of Philip R. Bjork at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Tim Song (talk) 16:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Nice! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 08:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! And a belated happy Thanksgiving to you too.Fairfieldfencer FFF 09:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC) Happy Thanksgiving to you too! Cla68 (talk) 10:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Nobo, and likewise! Gatoclass (talk) 11:47, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
You are welcome! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 16:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Happy belated Thanksgiving! KnightLago (talk) 21:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! I wound up watching Thankskilling with my parents! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 22:00, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
A belated Thanksgiving wish back to you on the Saturday after. I am glad when anyone sees eye to eye with you in your advocacy of objectivity and comprehensiveness of knowledge.--Drboisclair (talk) 22:42, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for yoru kind words! Regards, --A NobodyMy talk 20:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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In appreciation of your many courteous and considerate outreach efforts toward fellow Wikipedians, which help to heighten the level of pleasantness and civility at Wikipedia! JayJasper (talk) 04:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
How thoughtful! Best, --A NobodyMy talk 23:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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