User talk:1010Art

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:1010Art/sandbox

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A tag has been placed on User:1010Art/sandbox, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

• It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jason Gamrath (July 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jason Gamrath and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 07:14, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, 1010Art! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 07:14, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jason Gamrath (July 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by UtherSRG were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jason Gamrath and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

UtherSRG (talk) 11:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Jason Gamrath has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jason Gamrath. Thanks! UtherSRG (talk) 11:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jason Gamrath (July 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jason Gamrath and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 11:55, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jason Gamrath (July 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by UtherSRG were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jason Gamrath and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

UtherSRG (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jason Gamrath (July 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by UtherSRG were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jason Gamrath and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

UtherSRG (talk) 14:34, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

July 2023

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  UtherSRG (talk) 14:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Since you have refused to listen to the advice given to you on what you need to fix, I'm giving you a short time-out. Use this time to read and comprehend all of the policies and advice we've given you. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Draft:Jason Gamrath, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 09:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

"It may require cleanup"? 1010Art (talk) 15:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

The implication is plainly that a paid contribution requires cleanup and is less professional, whereas an unpaid one doesn't. That's not true. 1010Art (talk) 15:58, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

It is just the standard template added to paid for articles and to be clear MOST paid for articles need a LOT of clean up. Theroadislong (talk) 16:27, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

I know. But it's entirely inappropriate to have such a huge box like this, if there should even be a box at all (see bio). Plus, how many articles about living artists have at least some contributions that are paid? Probably almost all of them. 1010Art (talk) 17:05, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

If you know of any artists articles with undisclosed paid editing then we can tag those too. Theroadislong (talk) 17:24, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

The box is not huge. And given that Theroadislong has over 226k edits, and I have a bit over half of that, I think they and I know quite a bit more about what is appropriate than you do, with less than 50 edits. When we are telling you something, please do try to understand what we are saying, that we are coming from a place of consistency, and a deep knowledge of what helps to improve the encyclopedia and what doesn't. As for the number of artist biography articles, we have about 1000 on Category:20th-century American artists that haven't been sorted into other more refined categories, and about 7k more that have been sorted into men- and women-specific categories. Let's say some of those 1000 have been double sorted and keep with the 7k rough number. The vast majority of them have absolutely no content that was written by a paid editor, but quite a good percentage have some form of tag about how the article can be improved. Your WP:WHATABOUT argument is both invalid as a form, and on the underlying data. And as Theroadislong just said - if you see articles that have paid editing, they should get tagged as well. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:27, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

malignant editors

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

1010Art (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Editing article Jason_Gamrath for new inclusion into Wikipedia. Editors with decline permission proceed to tell me the references aren't good and ignore the vast majority of references. I ask exactly what is wrong with what I have, I add new references, then get blocked. These editors are hellbent on continuing to allow Wikipedia to decay through their malignant actions. 1010Art (talk) 22:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

See WP:NOTTHEM. You were blocked for your actions, which is the only thing that you can control. The fact that you still aren't listening means that the block reason is correct. 331dot (talk) 23:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You are hilariously and obviously incorrect. An editor with special privileges ignoring the current references, suggesting to add new references, and suggesting to read an article that I am very familiar with, and then blocking me for adding the references they suggested is the very definition of malignant. What a joke Wikipedia is now User:331dot.1010Art (talk) 23:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, 1010Art,

This is a very brief block, probably given to get your attention so you don't ignore the advice you've been given by administrators or other editors. But if you don't drop the attitude that you are being persecuted, you could easily be blocked indefinitely. Is that what you want? If you want to return to working on your article, then think about the advice you've been given, how you could act differently, sit out for a few more hours and then get back to becoming a better editor. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

it seems to be difficult for everyone who has replied so far to grasp a very basic concept, which is that any "advice" that was given was followed, with a resulting block. There's nothing left to actually follow. I added new references like they asked but was blocked. Not persecuted, no. You simply refuse to understand the situation.1010Art (talk) 11:04, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

So...

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

1010Art (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Ok, I see what they did here, and why other editors might be confused. Instead of answering me on the Jason_Gramath page in the decline discussion, they chose to not answer any questions there and then write in the Talk page. Then they said I am ignoring them. Right. It's pretty obvious I am asking questions in one place ... and then they answer somewhere else.1010Art

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

• the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
• the block is no longer necessary because you
  1. understand what you have been blocked for,
  2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
  3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 16:49, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You left a comment on the draft talk page and others have responded there, it appears that you have not read any of the advice you have been given and still do not understand how Wikipedia works, you are being paid to edit here, whilst we are all volunteers, whilst paid editors are tolerated here, if they become a time sink then patience runs out. Theroadislong (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

And then you responded on separate sections in the Talk page, not really responding to me. Just responding wherever. Love the attacks though on what you think I know. --1010Art (talk) 16:59, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Reviewers leave comments on the draft page, but any discussion about the comments belongs on the talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 17:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Jason Gamrath

Hello, 1010Art. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Jason Gamrath, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Jason Gamrath

Hello, 1010Art. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jason Gamrath".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)