Template talk:Infobox sportsperson/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Template-protected edit request on 19 March 2015

Hi,

I would like to add this to the template (note that I cleaned the sandbox, only the includeonly section is new). This will show pages that have no image but have an image on Wikidata. It adds all articles without image to a hidden category, and once an image is addded it is automatically removed from the category. No visible change to the articles. See here for the same edit to another template. See User:Taketa/Wikidata Images for more information.

Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 17:18, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

@Taketa: Why are we doing this and not simply displaying the image? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

From the last template (infobox person) I added 600 images, but had to leave out 1300 images as not usefull (the spouse instead of the person, copyright, a work [building, painting] instead of the person, a bad drawing of the person instead of the person, a logo instead of the person, the image was already in the article in a better spot, etc). That is why we have to do this. Most images should not be added. Please start a general discussion if you want to introduce automated images from Wikidata in templates. Without such an approval, this is the current best practice. All the best, Taketa (talk) 05:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Line-wrapping

In IE (at least), a line-break is often inappropriately inserted into the label "Personal best(s)" so that it appears like this:

Personal best
(s)

I would like to propose that a "no wrap" directive is placed around the word "best(s)" to prevent this. (If anyone cares to do this, they may as well apply the same to any other words ending in "(s)". Actually, this is a problem that affects a number of "infobox" variants, not just this one.) 109.153.245.28 (talk) 03:11, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Embed on Infobox person template

Excuse me for my ignorance, but is there any way that this template could be embedded somehow into the Template:Infobox person, like a |embed=yes or |child=yes option, because neither of these options two appear to work? Azuxingmi^talk 01:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

No, this infobox is not embeddable. Where do you need to embed it? Alakzi (talk) 01:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Well I think it would be useful to perhaps make the template embeddable for entertainers who were formerly or are concurrently athletes alongside another career like Johnny Weissmuller, Esther Williams and Bruce Jenner. Azuxingmi^talk 19:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, sounds reasonable. I've implemented it in the sandbox; see the example below. Alakzi (talk) 20:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Esther Williams
Williams in 1950
Born	Esther Jane Williams (1921-08-08)August 8, 1921 Inglewood, California, US
Died	June 6, 2013(2013-06-06) (aged 91) Los Angeles, US
Cause of death	Natural causes
Resting place	Cremated, ashes scattered at sea
Education	Washington High School
Alma mater	Los Angeles City College
Occupation(s)	Actress, swimmer, businesswoman
Years active	1942–1963
Spouse(s)	Leonard Kovner ​ ​ (m. 1940; div. 1944)​ Ben Gage ​ ​ (m. 1945; div. 1959)​ Fernando Lamas ​ ​ (m. 1969; died 1982)​ Edward Bell ​ (m. 1994)​
Children	3
Sports career
Sport	Swimming
Club	Los Angeles Athletic Club
Former partner	Johnny Weissmuller
Sports achievements and titles
World finals	Test
Website	http://www.esther-williams.com

Thanks for this, although do you think you could retain the sportsperson header colour for the "Sports Career" header, as the other header colours don't seem to change like that one does? Azuxingmi^talk 21:09, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

This is because of a technical constraint: an empty row is inserted between the two infoboxes if |title= is not used, and |title= can't be styled independently. I'd rather none of {{Infobox sportsperson}}'s headers are coloured when embedded. Alakzi (talk) 21:12, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Ah thanks for letting me know about that, although the other headers still appear to be coloured when I embed them. Should they be changed manually to the {{Infobox person}} colour with the |headercolor= parameter? Azuxingmi^talk 21:19, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Nope, I've fixed that now. Alakzi (talk) 21:23, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Azuxingmi^talk 21:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 27 March 2015

I would like a small change to allow the colour of the heading text in the infobox to be changed to a color other than black. ≤ There is already a feature to allow the background colour to be changed, but the value is limited by the text always being black.

This mechanism can be used to change the text color as well; but this change will make it easier for editors unfamiliar with CSS.

The change is here in the sandbox.

The effect can be seen here in a test case.

Note that the proposed change has no effect on existing infoboxes, as text still defaults to black.

A change to the documentation will also be required. Ping me and I can update it.

Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:29, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

@Hawkeye7: If the current mechanism is already being used (or misused?) to change text colour, presumably by setting up something like |headercolor=#000; color:#fff, then your proposed change would override this by appending a second color: value, a default value of color:black;. Wouldn't the following be a safer option, so that a color value is only appended if the |textcolor= parameter is set?

| headerstyle = background:{{#if:{{{headercolor|}}}|{{{headercolor}}}|#CCCC99}}; {{#if:{{{textcolor|}}}|color:{{{textcolor}}};}}

- Evad37 [talk] 01:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that is a good idea. I've changed the sandbox version to do that. Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:29, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

@Hawkeye7:  Done - Evad37 [talk] 01:39, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

This is prone to abuse. I note that the example in the doc is not WCAG 2 AAA compliant (see WP:CONTRAST). There should only be one public-facing headerstyle parameter—should there be one at all—with a limited number of predefined options. Alakzi (talk) 02:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

There is no requirement for WCAG 2 AAA compliance. Headers are just text, and can be read as raw text. They are not images or logos. Wikipedia:Don't edit war over the colour of templates. Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

The use of color options, including the recently added color text option, needs to be discussed at length. Speaking as a regular editor of sports articles, I see no consensus for the unfettered use of color combinations for Infobox sportsperson based on nothing more than the personal preferences of individual editors. I would suggest that we revert the recently added color text option until these matters are resolved with significantly more editor input than they have received so far. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

It is not recently added. The headercolor option has been there since the template was created in 2008. The recent change only makes it easier for use to track the usage, and to use better color combinations. (Also, the example was not changed., I have done so now to give it a better combination) Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:35, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Hawkeye, the option for text color has been added only in the last several days, at your request. The original idea behind color header options for Infobox sportsperson was that it would permit editors to continue to use the established header colors for individual sports (e.g., blue headers for swimmers). It was never intended that individual editors could create new color combinations for headers and header text based on personal preferences. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

If there is an accepted standard of sport to color mapping, it should be used an internal switch inside of the template to automatically infer the color. This would spare the editor of those details, and centralize the logic if there were any changes in the future. (Honestly, I don't know how the average reader would recognize this color standard.)—Bagumba (talk) 21:02, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, the use of header colors should be automatic, uniform and well documented, and the proper use of header colors should have been done at the time multiple athlete infoboxes for different sports were being merged into Infobox sportsperson four years ago. As has often been the case with template merges, there was very little discussion regarding the merge implementation and the revised template documentation did not address the color issue in any depth. Infobox swimmer was one of the few pre-existing templates that was maintained as a "wrap" of Infobox sportsperson, with a swimming-specific module, because of a desire to exclude certain parameters of Infobox sportsperson, and to include other swimming-specific parameters; Infobox swimmer's headers have always been some shade of blue since I started editing swimmer articles 5+ years ago, and it is uniform across over 4,000 transclusions. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Don't know the specific cases, but any infobox that didn't expose the color parameters before a merge but required them after was likely a poorly-executed move.—Bagumba (talk) 21:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Do we actually need to distinguish sports by colour? I'd suggest adding a "private" |_headerstyle= parameter—mainspace uses of which would be tracked—for templates calling Infobox sportsperson to employ, and leaving it at that. My reasoning is that these other templates have possibly got a long-running consensus for their choice of colours, whereas they'd have been applied unilaterally in direct transclusions of {{Infobox sportsperson}}. Alakzi (talk) 21:55, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Any project that wants color conformity should create a wrapper template that controls the color. Anything less is unwieldy at best. That said, I'm not sure which projects have a color scheme. Do we actually need to distinguish sports by color: maybe not, but it might cause an uproar to even discuss it :-)—Bagumba (talk) 22:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Any project that wants color conformity should create a wrapper template that controls the color. Yep, that was my point, although apparently lost in verbosity. Alakzi (talk) 22:17, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I've reverted the latest change for textcolor. Discussion can continue to establish a clear consensus.—Bagumba (talk) 20:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I've had to revert you Bagumba; Hawkeye7 has used |textcolor= in a large number of articles, whose headers would've now been made unreadable. Alakzi (talk) 20:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I originally figured it would have been no less unreadable than a few days ago, plus the downside of possibly opening up a black hole for "cute", non-accessible coloring. It's a no-win without a wider-scale solution, so I guess it's fine either way for now. No worries.—Bagumba (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Hawkeye7 has also changed the background colours; see Annika Zeyen. Category:Pages using Infobox sportsperson with textcolor is being populated. Alakzi (talk) 21:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

This is a vital accessibility fix, and should not be reverted, If there is consensus not to use colour, then the background colour parameter must also be rmeoved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, it theoretically allows others besides Hawkeye7 who might not be in the know to use colors other than black that make an inaccessible combo of colors. One ideal solution might be to create something like Module:College color, where color schemes for a domain are centralized, and can be more readily monitored for accessibility issues.—Bagumba (talk) 21:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

We could use {{Greater color contrast ratio}} in the interim. Any objections? Alakzi (talk) 22:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

No objections. It'd be great to have some uniformity with color logic and test tables across the board, but understand that we are all volunteers (and I'm not more skilled to implement some universal framework).—Bagumba (talk) 22:18, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

No, it is not working. White on black is WCAG 2 AA compliant, and you've just changed it to black on black. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

@Hawkeye7: Where is this happening? Alakzi (talk) 22:55, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Please revert asap See Annika Zeyen. You have black on black. White on black is WCAG 2 AAA compliant! You are forcing all text to black! Also (per the above) not everybody is using the new card to achieve this effect! You have broken those pages. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

It was a syntax error; I've fixed it. Which other pages have I broken? Alakzi (talk) 23:06, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

It is only allowing black and white now! Please fix! See Cobi Crispin. Yellow on Green is WCAG 2 AA compliant, but it is appearing as white. All colors in Module:College color should be allowed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

There's really no need to panic; the world's not falling apart because the text's white instead of a pale yellow. There's clearly no consensus for |textcolor= here, but I've restored it nonetheless; somebody else can take the heat. Alakzi (talk) 23:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I want to emphasise that the new card is not the only way to achieve this effect! The idea of the change was that we could track the use, create wrapper templates, and above all, and perhaps some day alter the way the Lua module works without breaking things. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Embedded coding for metric/standard conversion of heights and weights

When was this coding embedded in this template, and why was it not discussed? This automatic conversion function presently includes a conversion to "stones," an archaic measurement of weight seldom used outside the British isles, and inappropriate for many, if not the vast majority of sports biography infoboxes. Please remove it or add options to turn off such auto-conversion factors such as this. Moreover, Infobox sportsperson is the base template for several other templates, and this function has been imported into those templates as a result. This is another example of why one-size-fits-all templates are not always a good idea. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Where are you seeing stones? Alakzi (talk) 16:20, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: Please see Dawn Fraser. Enter the weight in kilograms, and out pops stones (and pounds). This template, and its wrappers, are used for athletes in dozens of sports; in no more than a handful of them is "stones" for weight appropriate. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Fixed, probably. If anybody wants stones, they can use {{Convert}}. Alakzi (talk) 16:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@Alakzi: Thanks. The Dawn Fraser example seems to be resolved, and the fix appropriate. The irony is that most of the handful of sports where stones are commonly used as a measurement (e.g., for British golfers) have separate infobox template for their athletes. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Prevent line wrapping

Would it be possible to add a no-wrap function or no-break space in the short two word labels? It is very annoying seeing Full name wrapped as:
Full
name
Alexander Bonaparte Caesar (talk) 11:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 September 2015

Would it be possible to add a no-wrap function or no-break space in the short two word labels? It is very annoying seeing Full name wrapped as:
Full
name
Alexander Bonaparte Caesar (talk) 23:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. It could be a good idea though. Qed237 (talk) 16:11, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Height with order=flip

I just edited Template:Infobox sportsperson/doc to insert "|abbr=on" to give the correct {{convert}} result shown in the examples. While doing that I noticed some advice (which appears twice) starting with "If the subject's height stated in a source...". The advice is to use trial-and-error to work out how many feet/inches should be used to produce 192 cm.

The best way to show the unit used in the reference while putting the other unit first is to use order=flip, for example:

• {{convert|192|cm|ftin|abbr=on|order=flip}} → 6 ft 4 in (192 cm) (192 cm is 6 ft 3.59 in)
• {{convert|192|cm|ftin|1|abbr=on|order=flip}} → 6 ft 3.6 in (192 cm)

Is there some reason for using the current wording, or should it be replaced with advice to use order=flip? Johnuniq (talk) 23:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

By the way, fractions of an inch can be specified:

• {{convert|192|cm|ftin|1|abbr=on|frac=2|order=flip}} → 6 ft 3+1⁄2 in (192 cm)
• {{convert|193|cm|ftin|1|abbr=on|frac=2|order=flip}} → 6 ft 4 in (193 cm)

Johnuniq (talk) 06:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

RfC announce: Religion in infoboxes

There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes concerning what should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

National team

national team is under personal information, but should be under Sport. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 15:51, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

The "national team" parameter was added at the behest of WP:SWIMMING in mid 2015 in order to deal with disputatious editors who wanted to argue about the use of national flag icons, dual nationality, and other related nationality issues. Frankly, we were tired of explaining to non-sports editors that "nationality" = "sporting nationality," and that flag icons were being used to represent national team members, so we cut the whole argument off at the knees by using "national team" instead of "nationality" for all Olympic swimmers and others in international competition (the overwhelming majority of notable competitive swimmers). We only use "nationality" for the relatively few notable swimmers who weren't members of their respective national teams, and the two parameters are mutually exclusive -- they cannot be used at the same time. As for the placement of "national team" within the layout of Template:Infobox swimmer -- a wrapper of Template:Infobox sportsperson -- we like it fine just where it is. In 2012, WP:SWIMMING agreed to the merge of Infobox swimmer with Infobox sportsperson, with the caveat that Infobox swimmer would continue to exist as a wrapper of Infobox sportsperson, with a specific subset of parameters required for competitive swimming. Frankly, if we had known in 2012 that Infobox swimmer would be hostage to every dispute and controversy over Infobox sportsperson, and every well-intended editor's desire to import the optional parameters we intentionally excluded from the wrapper in the first instance, we would never have agreed to the merge. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata version

Hi all. At the request of @Hawkeye7, I've started a Wikidata-driven version of this template at Template:Infobox sportsperson/Wikidata. It's currently a test - I've enabled some of the parameters but not all, and I've used the article at Madeline Groves to test it out - but hopefully in the longer run we can add the wikidata functionality into this template rather than having a separate one (along the same lines as Template:Infobox person. Note that Wikidata is the fall-back option - the template allows each parameter to be locally overriden as needed. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:17, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Please replace the main template with this one. :) I'll be happy to have one more way to contribute to the English Wikipedia, even when I'm not able to edit it directly. Nemo 20:37, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Origin of the disability

I want to add the origin of the disability like this edit. How I can do it? --Kasper2006 (talk) 08:55, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Why do we want this? Hawkeye7 (talk) 13:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Beacuse this is an information that gives the IPC official web site at the athletes profiles. --Kasper2006 (talk) 14:06, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 15 March 2018

Please change per {{Infobox person}}.

• <span class="honorific-prefix" style="font-size: small">

• <span class="honorific-suffix" style="font-size: small">

To this:

• <span class="honorific-prefix" style="font-size: small; font-weight: normal">

• <span class="honorific-suffix" style="font-size: small; font-weight: normal">

  78.19.65.80 (talk) 01:00, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:05, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 15 March 2018

Hi, please put "nowrap" directive around words ending "(s)", to prevent awkward line wrap in certain browsers. E.g. to prevent "Personal best(s)" appearing like this:

Personal best
(s)

Remember, this only happens with certain browsers, and is dependent on local configuration (font sizes, etc.), so you may not see the problem yourself.

Thank you. 86.190.171.140 (talk) 23:05, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done Please make all the edits in the sandbox and test the changes, then reactivate the edit request above. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, not necessary. Anyone who understands this can just do it. 86.190.171.140 (talk) 00:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

I made the change for you in the Sandbox. [1] It appears okay. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:23, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Military service

I don't see a way to integrate military service into this template unlike at Template:Infobox officeholder. Is there a way to do that cause I would like to be able to for the article about Miguel White.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Probably embedding it as a module, like Template:Infobox person does. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:20, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Ethnicity

Ethnicity should be removed, per Template:Infobox person. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:20, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Name

screenshot

Something has happened to the template and the Name of the subject is resolving at the bottom. It is inconsistent, but more and more often it shows up in the wrong place. Trackinfo (talk) 16:39, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

can you give an example? --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

I just pulled a random article with the infobox out of my watchlist. Here is what I see.Trackinfo (talk) 09:21, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Maybe is a problem of your PC because in Eliud Kipchoge I see the name regularry in the top ;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 10:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 29 September 2018

Would it be possible to add the caps in national team line, as is, for istance, in {{Infobox football biography}}? Kasper2006 (talk) 19:00, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Kasper2006, please clarify what you mean. Should a label be changed? It looks like both have the label "National team" for the data field "national team". Enterprisey (talk!) 04:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

For example in Alessandro Del Piero in the {{Infobox football biography}} is |nationalteam1 = [[Italy national under-17 football team|Italy U17]] and |nationalcaps1 = 3. In {{Infobox sportsperson}} there is only the line "national_team" I would that we have also the line "national_caps". --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Kasper2006, is there any particular article for which you're asking the parameter to be added/where this parameter would be useful? Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:28, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Not one in particular, but virtually all athletes (and any sport) who use the infobox. In this you can see where it should be applied. --Kasper2006 (talk) 14:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done I'd like to see a consensus that it is useful for this infobox as caps don't seem to be something generally used for long jumpers and other athletes etc Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Automatically show a Wikidata image in a Wikipedia infobox without editing the Wikipedia page

Could you please replace the section image={{{image|}}} by image={{#if:{{{image|}}}|{{{image|}}}|{{#Property:P18}}}} This would allow to automatically show a Wikidata image in a Wikipedia infobox without editing the corresponding Wikipedia page. Geertivp (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Who else would be in favour of automatically displaying images registered in Wikidata in a Wikipedia "Infobox sportsperson"? This would avoid manually editing all those Wikipedia pages. To display the image it would be sufficient to use Wikidata Property:P18 to subsequently add the image to the infobox. It would work in all languages, provided equivalent changes would be applied in the other language Wikipedia templates... Geertivp (talk) 14:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Agree Geertivp (talk) 14:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Standardise formatting

Please could |honorific_prefix= and |honorific_suffix= be set at "style="font-size: 77%" as per Template:Infobox person? This is the standard formatting for these parameters across biographical infoboxes. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk 14:52, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done @Gaia Octavia Agrippa:, please make your changes in the sandbox (Template:Infobox sportsperson/sandbox) and verify usability, then feel free to reactivate the edit request if everything is ready. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Changes have been made to the sandbox, and they work nicely. Please change the main template, Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk 19:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:49, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Convert to wrapper

Parameter	Infobox sportsperson	Infobox person
1
2
3
4
5
abovestyle
agent
alias
alma mater
alma_mater
alt
awards
baptised
baptized
birth_date
birth_name
birth_place
birthname
boards
body discovered
body_discovered
box_width
burial_coordinates
burial_place
callsign
caption
catches
child
children
citizenship
club
coach
coaching
collegeteam
commonwealth
country
credits
criminal charge
criminal penalty
criminal status
criminal_charge
criminal_charges
criminal_penalty
criminal_status
death cause
death_cause
death_date
death_place
denomination
disability
disability_class
disappeared_date
disappeared_place
disappeared_status
domestic_partner
domesticpartner
education
embed
employer
era
ethnicity
event
event_type
family
father
footnotes
former_partner
formerpartner
full_name
fullname
headercolor
height
height_cm
height_ft
height_in
height_m
highestranking
home town
home_town
homepage
hometown
honorific prefix
honorific suffix
honorific_prefix
honorific_suffix
honorific-prefix
honorific-suffix
honors
honours
image
image caption
image size
image_caption
image_size
image_upright
imagesize
influenced
influences
judicial status
judicial_status
known
known for
known_for
label_name
landscape
league
league_type
life_partner
medaltemplates
medaltemplates-title
misc
misc2
misc3
misc4
misc5
misc6
module
module2
module3
module4
module5
module6
monuments
mother
movement
name
national_team
nationality
nationals
native_name
native_name_lang
net worth
net_worth
networth
nickname
nocat_wdimage
notable works
notable_works
occupation
office
olympics
opponents
organisation
organization
organizations
other names
other_interests
other_names
other-interests
othername
paralympics
parents
partner
partner(s)
partners
party
pb
position
post-nominals
pre-nominals
predecessor
pronunciation
rank
regionals
relations
relatives
religion
residence
resting place
resting place coordinates
resting_place
resting_place_coordinates
restingplace
restingplacecoordinates
retired
shoots
show-medals
siglum
signature
signature alt
signature_alt
signature_size
sport
spouse
spouse(s)
spouses
status
style
successor
team
television
term
textcolor
title
turnedpro
turnedpro_type
universityteam
updated
url
URL
website
weight
weight_class
weight_class_type
weight_kg
weight_lb
weight_st
works
worlds
years active
years_active
yearsactive

This should be converted to wrapper of {{Infobox person}} per WP:INFOCOL Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 00:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Please stop this disruptive spamming. Just take a look at the table above. There are major differences in the parameters supported by each template. Also, as I have already told you at one of the far too many pages on which you have spammed tables like this, your parameter list for {{Infobox person}} is incorrect. |1=, for example, is not supported by Infobox person. The documentation page for the tool you are using has a caveat explaining that you need to validate its output. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:46, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Deprecated para

Jonesey95, this template still has |ethnicity= and |residence=. MB 17:42, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Removed ethnicity and residence. Please update the documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion residence was useful. --Kasper2006 (talk) 08:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Name parameter

The guideline says: «If this parameter is omitted, the name of the article is used.» Which in my way of understanding means that, in the event that the name of the person is the same as that of the article, it is recommended to omit it. However, I am undergoing systematic reverts by a user who instead believes it is necessary to add it. How should I behave? --Kasper2006 (talk) 15:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Honorific suffix size

Just wondering why @Muboshgu: has changed the font size for honorific suffixes in this infobox, inconsistent with all the other biographical infobox templates. Suddenly hundreds or more sportsperson infoboxes have giant post-nominals. Please revert this, and discuss here on the talk page before making changes such as this in future. Paora (talk) 01:46, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Paora, please read the guideline MOS:SMALLFONT, the explanation I gave in my edit summary. Avoid using smaller font sizes within page elements that already use a smaller font size, such as infoboxes, navboxes, and references sections. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:19, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: Yes, I read the guideline you mentioned carefully, having seen your edit summary, before making my comments above. You might have a point, except that we are talking about text in the heading to the infobox, which is not an element that uses a smaller font size. So your reasoning is flawed. I ask again that you please revert the change you made, and discuss here on the talk page before making changes such as this in future. Paora (talk) 09:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 3 August 2021

Add ethnic representation. There is name, country, nationality now add ethnicity as well. Not all nationalities are synonymous with ethnic background. Leyncho (talk) 21:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Consensus has long been against this field. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:37, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Add Ethnicity

Add Ethnicity parameter Leyncho (talk) 06:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Residence

I ask for the reintegration of this line, also because there are so many infoboxes that report this important element. --Kasper2006 (talk) 02:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Residence parameter

Moved from Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion

 – * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

The parameter existed and has been eliminated, however the information remains in the infoboxes of a very large number of articles. I ask for its restoration also because it was an important information (today many athletes reside in a country or city other than the one in which they were born). --Kasper2006 (talk) 04:11, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 25 October 2021

Current form

| label56   = World finals
|  data56   = {{{worlds|}}}
| label57   = Regional finals
|  data57   = {{{regionals|}}}
| label58   = National finals
|  data58   = {{{nationals|}}}
| label59   = [[Olympic Games|Olympic finals]]
|  data59   = {{{olympics|}}}
| label60   = [[Paralympic Games|Paralympic finals]]
|  data60   = {{{paralympics|}}}
| label61   = [[Commonwealth Games|Commonwealth finals]]
|  data61   = {{{commonwealth|}}}

Proposed form

| label56   = {{#if:{{{worlds_type|}}}|{{{worlds_type|}}}|World finals}}
|  data56   = {{{worlds|}}}
| label57   = {{#if:{{{regionals_type|}}}|{{{regionals_type|}}}|Regional finals}}
|  data57   = {{{regionals|}}}
| label58   = {{#if:{{{nationals_type|}}}|{{{nationals_type|}}}|National finals}}
|  data58   = {{{nationals|}}}
| label59   = {{#if:{{{olympics_type|}}}|{{{olympics_type|}}}|[[Olympic Games|Olympic finals]]}}
|  data59   = {{{olympics|}}}
| label60   = {{#if:{{{paralympics_type|}}}|{{{paralympics_type|}}}|[[Paralympic Games|Paralympic finals]]}}
|  data60   = {{{paralympics|}}}
| label61   = {{#if:{{{commonwealth_type|}}}|{{{commonwealth_type|}}}|[[Commonwealth Games|Commonwealth finals]]}}
|  data61   = {{{commonwealth|}}}

Explanation

The change will allow inheriting templates to provide more specific labels and links. Deancarmeli (talk) 11:37, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done User:GKFX^talk 19:28, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Add more generic parameters

In this old discussion, some "generic" biography parameters were added. Some still missing include children, parents, and relatives too. There are certainly some cases where sportspeople have notable family members (beyond spouse). Any concern? MB 20:44, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Frietjes, there has been no objection. MB 20:44, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

User:MB, can you provide a list of the parameters to add? Frietjes (talk) 21:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

I meant just the three above. MB 21:12, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Frietjes forgot to ping. MB 21:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

User:MB, okay, done. Frietjes (talk) 16:33, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 11 December 2022

Current form

| label42   = Rank

Proposed form

| label42   = {{#if:{{{rank_type|}}}|{{{rank_type}}}|Rank}}

Explanation

The change will allow inheriting templates to provide more specific labels and links to articles about sport specific ranks. CLalgo (talk) 10:19, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:28, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! One more change is needed, if you will, to line 163:

Current form

| weight_class | rank

Proposed form

| weight_class | rank_type | rank

Explanation

The change will prevent a Preview warning while editing. CLalgo (talk) 10:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:07, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 13 December 2022

Current form

1. | label40   = [[Disability sport classification|Disability class]]

2. | disability | disability_class

Proposed form

1. | label40   = {{#if:{{{disability_class_type|}}}|{{{disability_class_type}}}|[[Disability sport classification|Disability class]]}}

2. | disability | disability_class_type | disability_class

Explanation

The change will allow inheriting templates to provide more specific targets to articles about sport specific Disability classes. CLalgo (talk) 10:37, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:35, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports § Suggestion: Changing "Achievements and titles" order in Template:Infobox sportsperson

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports § Suggestion: Changing "Achievements and titles" order in Template:Infobox sportsperson. CLalgo (talk) 10:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Cropped image alignment on mobile

I've cropped an infobox image in this article. The image is centered on the regular Wikipedia site, but it is aligned left on the mobile website, despite using the value "center" for the Location parameter of Template:CSS image crop. I don't know whether the problem is caused by this infobox, but this is where I first noticed the issue. – Editør (talk) 21:28, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 6 June 2023

Description of suggested change: In the Achievements and titles section, move Olympic finals & Paralympic finals above World finals to reflect their higher status.

Diff:

−

| label56 = {{#if:{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}World finals}} | data56 = {{{worlds|}}} | label57 = {{#if:{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}Regional finals}} | data57 = {{{regionals|}}} | label58 = {{#if:{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}National finals}} | data58 = {{{nationals|}}} | label59 = {{#if:{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Olympic Games{{!}}Olympic finals]]}} | data59 = {{{olympics|}}} | label60 = {{#if:{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Paralympic Games{{!}}Paralympic finals]]}} | data60 = {{{paralympics|}}}

+

| label56 = {{#if:{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Olympic Games{{!}}Olympic finals]]}} | data56 = {{{olympics|}}} | label57 = {{#if:{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Paralympic Games{{!}}Paralympic finals]]}} | data57 = {{{paralympics|}}} | label58 = {{#if:{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}World finals}} | data58 = {{{worlds|}}} | label59 = {{#if:{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}Regional finals}} | data59 = {{{regionals|}}} | label60 = {{#if:{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}National finals}} | data60 = {{{nationals|}}}

I've Added a vertical diff, for an easier read:

Current version

| label56   = {{#if:{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}World finals}}
|  data56   = {{{worlds|}}}
| label57   = {{#if:{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}Regional finals}}
|  data57   = {{{regionals|}}}
| label58   = {{#if:{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}National finals}}
|  data58   = {{{nationals|}}}
| label59   = {{#if:{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Olympic Games{{!}}Olympic finals]]}}
|  data59   = {{{olympics|}}}
| label60   = {{#if:{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Paralympic Games{{!}}Paralympic finals]]}}
|  data60   = {{{paralympics|}}}

---

Suggested version

| label56   = {{#if:{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{olympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Olympic Games{{!}}Olympic finals]]}}
|  data56   = {{{olympics|}}}
| label57   = {{#if:{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{paralympics_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}[[Paralympic Games{{!}}Paralympic finals]]}}
|  data57   = {{{paralympics|}}}
| label58   = {{#if:{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{worlds_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}World finals}}
|  data58   = {{{worlds|}}}
| label59   = {{#if:{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{regionals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}Regional finals}}
|  data59   = {{{regionals|}}}
| label60   = {{#if:{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}{{{nationals_type{{!}}}}}{{!}}National finals}}
|  data60   = {{{nationals|}}}

CLalgo (talk) 12:45, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Where should such a discussion be held if not here? This response was very unconstructive. CLalgo (talk) 14:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: A discussion was held where the broad consensus (with a single dissenter) was in favor of the suggestion above, placing Olympic finals & Paralympic finals above World finals to reflect their higher status. CLalgo (talk) 11:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Retaining colours while embedding?

Is there any way to keep the header header colour for the sportsperson infobox sections when embedding as a module in a more broad infobox? For example, compare the single infobox of this article to the two infoboxes on this one. I am aware that you can include a module with embed = no, but this causes the module to be smaller than the overall infobox, which appears awkward. Jokojis (talk) 03:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 21 May 2024 Remove final full stop from «updated» output

Description of suggested change: The «updated» parameter’s output is rendered with an improper final full stop, e.g. «Updated on 13 August 2017.», which according to the MoS must be «Updated on 13 August 2017».

Stephan Leeds (talk) 22:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Please link to and quote from the appropriate section of MOS. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I assume he means MOS:FULLSTOP. ("Sentence fragments in captions or lists should in most cases not end with a period.") Whether or not this is a "caption", it is a sentence fragment, and by the same logic it would probably be better style not to have a period. SilverLocust 💬 20:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 12:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Redesign

After the recent (today's?) redesign of this infobox, the cell paddings and content wrappings make the infobox unnecessarily long. I hope this can be fixed as soon as possible. Shouldn't these things have been tested before making such major changes in the first place? – Editør (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

For example the infobox of Femke Bol has become almost twice as long. – Editør (talk) 22:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

The redesign appears to have been reverted. – Editør (talk) 19:48, 14 June 2024 (UTC)