Template:Did you know nominations/Stripped Classicism
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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Stripped Classicism
[edit]... that Stripped Classicism is an architectural style used by the US, Nazi Germany and Stalin's USSR?
ALT1:... that Stripped Classicism is a 20th-century architectural style frequently employed by governments worldwide while designing official buildings?ALT2:... that in Europe early examples of Stripped Classicism, a 20th-century architectural design style, established models for the classical purity aspired to by high modernists of modern architecture?- Reviewed: Angharad ferch Owain
Created by Carptrash (talk), 7&6=thirteen (talk), Ghirlandajo (talk), Nsteffel (talk and Lockley (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen (talk) at 14:20, 7 December 2014 (UTC).
I make a few suggestions here before it goes to DYK. I would like to see it better represent its own claims and also be a bit better set up for its future expansion. At the moment it is rather essay-like and hard for a reader to grasp the idea of the style's chronology or development. For example, the "Description and history" section could be separated into two sections - one "Description" and another "Usage" so that readers can get into what defines it before going on to how it has been used and adapted. Maybe "Geographical spread" would be a useful section. I guess that such sections would develop in time as would the table of "Notable Examples" which might eventually have to be split off, although that's in the future.
However, given the description in the text of the global spread of this style, the table is too restricted. It presents only US examples in only one decade. Even at this stage, the table ought to represent the range given in the article. Choose a few examples from different parts of the world and different decades. I also think the two notes could be incorporated into the text, they seem to be essential parts of the explanation.
I hope you do not think these suggestions are onerous and can make them as improvements - the encyclopedia needs this article. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- We all are working on this. Get back to you. Thanks for the thorough review. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:08, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- I'd like to suggest adding "the governments of" to the question if it fits. The term "stripped classical" is not used all that much, so while I can easily identify a variety of buildings in different countries as fitting, it is more difficult to find a reference for that. Otherwise we risk having the twin charges of opinion and original research leveled against us. Perhaps that is just a chance we need to take? Einar akaCarptrash (talk) 03:51, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- @7&6=thirteen: Coming on three weeks since this was last reviewed - any progress on this nom? Fuebaey (talk) 01:33, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'd like to suggest adding "the governments of" to the question if it fits. The term "stripped classical" is not used all that much, so while I can easily identify a variety of buildings in different countries as fitting, it is more difficult to find a reference for that. Otherwise we risk having the twin charges of opinion and original research leveled against us. Perhaps that is just a chance we need to take? Einar akaCarptrash (talk) 03:51, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- Last call ladies and gentleman. Last call. @Carptrash, Whiteghost.ink, Ghirlandajo, Nsteffel, Lockley, and 7&6=thirteen: PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Carptrash, Whiteghost.ink, Ghirlandajo, Nsteffel, Lockley, and 7&6=thirteen: Panyd I think it is reasonably good to go. I don't know what you want. Maybe it isn't yet a WP:GA, but it should easily qualify for a WP:DYK. I've put back some stuff on my talk page that User:Hafspajen suggested. If you can tell us what it is that you still need, we will try to comply. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- I just wanted someone to say whether or not the appropriate changes had been made. If everyone is confident that they've been sorted, I see no reason it can't pass. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed. Please do a close paraphrase check (not mentioned in original review), and also revisit issues previously raised. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- The article has been improved and its scope widened since the criticisms voiced above by Whiteghost were made, and in any event, they are not relevant to whether the article fulfils the DYK criteria. -- The article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral and I detected no copyright issues or close paraphrasing in the sources I checked. I have struck ALT1 and ALT2 because a source states that this architectural style began in the late 18th century. The original hook is acceptable, but somewhat misleading because other countries also used this style. I would prefer
ALT3 ... that Stripped Classicism is an architectural style used in several countries including the US, Nazi Germany and Stalin's USSR? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- ALT3 is fine with me. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:04, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- Confirming that "used in several countries including" is supported by inline sourcing in the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- :REVIEW COMPLETED - The following has been checked in this review by Esemono
- QPQ for Angharad ferch Owain
- Article created by Carptrash on December 3, 2014 and has 4221 characters of readable prose
- NPOV
- ALT3 is interesting sourced with Refs 9, talk has confirmed "used in several countries including" is supported by inline sourcing
- AGF on offline sourcing with Ref 9
- Every paragraph sourced
- Earwig @ Toolserver Copyvio Detector found no copyvio
- GTG -- Esemono (talk) 01:34, 26 February 2015 (UTC)