Template:Did you know nominations/St Peter's Roman Catholic Church, Buckie
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:45, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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St Peter's Roman Catholic Church, Buckie
The Buckie Cathedral, viewed from the sea
... that the small town of Buckie in Moray has its own cathedral (pictured)?Source: "With its unusual twin towers, visible for many miles from land and sea, this church has long been known locally as 'The Buckie Cathedral'." (Historic Environment Scotland listing document- ALT1:...
that James Kyle, Roman Catholic bishop of Aberdeen, designed his own cathedral (pictured) in the small town of Buckie in Moray?Source: "Bishop James Kyle and A and W Reid, architects, Elgin, 1850-57" (same source as previous hook) - ALT2:... that James Kyle, Roman Catholic bishop of Aberdeen, designed a parish church so grand that it is known locally as the Buckie cathedral (pictured)? Source: "Bishop James Kyle and A and W Reid, architects, Elgin, 1850-57" (same source as previous hook)
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Improved to Good Article status by Girth Summit (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 17 August 2019 (UTC).
Approved as a GA on 16 August, nom on 17th, within 1 day. 4502 char, long enough. Neutral. No apparent copyvios. Cited. QPQ done. Hook 1 72 chars, short enough. (I initially thought that the wording "known locally" was odd, and that the hook seemed run of the mill, as every town here in Yucatán, with population of more than 10 it seems, has a huge and highly decorative cathedral, but then it occurred to me the wording suggested that it might not be a cathedral, so I learned something and all those fabulous churches aren't cathedrals). The cited source says it is "known locally" as a cathedral, which made me wonder if it was one? Without understanding what the difference between a "Vicars Apostolic" and a "Bishop" it still seems apparent that Kyle's official association ("seat") was in Aberdeen, thus the church had no bishop and was technically just a church.[1],[2] I notice Ian had the same comment in the history, so I think I am right and it doesn't appear to actually be a cathedral. To me the 2nd hook (126 chars within limit) is the more interesting, but again we have the problem that the church, while built in the style of a cathedral, is not one. If one were to change cathedral to church in the initial hook, it would be a totally mundane statement, but I think changing it in the second one makes little difference, as what is interesting is that he designed and built his own house of worship. I'll be happy to look at a hook about him basing a design on a ruined cathedral or something about the Catholic Relief Act, if you want to change the hook entirely. Please ping me. SusunW (talk) 20:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi SusunW - you're absolutely right, it isn't technically a cathedral, since no bishop has their seat there. I thought we might be able to stretch the use of the word since it's been called that locally since it was built (as evidenced by the local newspaper's announcement when it opened). How about the new wording I've proposed in Alt2 above? cheers GirthSummit (blether) 08:14, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
That works and is 136 chars. GTG Girth Summit. Thank you so much. Really enjoyed reading the article. SusunW (talk) 14:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi SusunW - you're absolutely right, it isn't technically a cathedral, since no bishop has their seat there. I thought we might be able to stretch the use of the word since it's been called that locally since it was built (as evidenced by the local newspaper's announcement when it opened). How about the new wording I've proposed in Alt2 above? cheers GirthSummit (blether) 08:14, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
