Template:Did you know nominations/Obviously 5 Believers
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 01:55, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
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Obviously 5 Believers
- ... that Bob Dylan complained that he did not want to spend much time recording "Obviously 5 Believers"? Source: Wilentz, Sean (2010). Bob Dylan in America. (loc 2013 in Kindle edition)
- ALT1: ... that the working title for Bob Dylan's "Obviously 5 Believers" was "Black Dog Blues"? Source: Wilentz, Sean (2010). Bob Dylan in America. (loc 2013 in Kindle edition)
- ALT2: ... that Bob Dylan did not perform his 1966 song "Obviously 5 Believers" live until 1995? Source: Bob Dylan's official website: Setlists that contain Obviously Five Believers
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- Comment: Suggestions for ALT hooks welcome.
Improved to Good Article status by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Self-nominated at 10:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Obviously 5 Believers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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@BennyOnTheLoose: Good article. Though, the hooks kind of feel a bit bland. The only one that really interests me is Alt2 but i'm not all too confident about it. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:13, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
How about a version of one of these, Onegreatjoke? (I think there's something in ALT3, but it might need tweaking.)
- ALT3: ... that in 1966 one of the Hawks (later known as the Band) played on "Obviously 5 Believers", which was later the name of a band (later known as the Hawks) who played on Obviously 5 Believers (2021)? Sources: Heylin, Clinton (2021). Heylin, Clinton (2021). The Double Life of Bob Dylan. Vol. 1 1941-1966, A restless, hungry feeling pp. 388–392.; Seaman, Duncan (August 26, 2021); "Stephen Duffy and David Twist on The Hawks: 'We weren't after world domination'". The Yorkshire Post.
- ALT4: ... that "Obviously 5 Believers" by Bob Dylan inspired the name of a band featuring Duran Duran founding member Stephen Duffy? Sources: Petridis, Alexis (October 15, 2004). "Radio daze". The Guardian.; Seaman, Duncan (August 26, 2021); "Stephen Duffy and David Twist on The Hawks: 'We weren't after world domination'". The Yorkshire Post.
- @BennyOnTheLoose: Alt3 could work but I do agree that a rewording is needed. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- How about...
- ALT3a ... that "Obviously 5 Believers" (1966) which featured one of the Hawks, later known as the Band, inspired the name of a band, later known as the Hawks, who featured on Obviously 5 Believers (2021)? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 16:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Alt 3 is good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BennyOnTheLoose:
I can't verify in the article that the Hawks were later known as the Band? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 19:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- D'oh! I've added to the text, with a reference; let me know if this isn't suitable. Thanks, theleekycauldron. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- From Heylin (2021), as it's an offline source: "Dylan rejoined the Hawks [in New York]... [for the next set of sessions in Nashville] he co-opted Robertson" (p.392) BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- @BennyOnTheLoose: hmm, but what about the band changing its name to 'the Band'? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: That's in the Guardian source which I had added: "the Hawks outgrew their leader. They hooked up with Bob Dylan in the mid-60s and by the end of the decade were superstars on their own who had renamed themselves the Band." Sorry this is a bit convoluted; the Heylin quote was intended to confirm that Robertson joined Dylan for the Nashville recordings (as actually the other Hawks didn't). 21:29, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @BennyOnTheLoose: hmm, but what about the band changing its name to 'the Band'? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @BennyOnTheLoose:
- Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Onegreatjoke What do you think? Are any of the hooks above acceptable? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:06, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- Trying another ping for Onegreatjoke, since the above one didn't go through. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- hook still seems fine. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:22, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Have your concerns been addressed? Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:13, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 19:03, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Have your concerns been addressed? Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:13, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- Trying another ping for Onegreatjoke, since the above one didn't go through. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- @BennyOnTheLoose: Sorry to rain on the nomination but I feel like ALT3 is TMI. And too many laters. Bruxton (talk) 01:44, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- @BennyOnTheLoose: nobody has come back to say anything about my concern so I will promote and hope I am alone in my concern. Bruxton (talk) 01:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)