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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

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Neurological Society of India, Baldev Singh (neurologist), S. T. Narasimhan

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Moved to mainspace by Vivvt (talk), Dharmadhyaksha (talk), and Dharmadhyaksha (talk). Nominated by Dharmadhyaksha (talk) at 07:02, 12 January 2017 (UTC).

  • Comment: I will review the three articles in this nomination. Mindmatrix 21:47, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Review for Neurological Society of India: moved to namespace on same day as nomination, and is of sufficient length, satisfying length and date criteria. The first sentence is taken verbatim from the source ("...apex body representing neuroscientists..."), and the source is not reliable (it is a society for another field that has no authoritative expertise in neurology, and appears to be displaying a promotional blurb provided by the Neurological Society of India). Please remove this reference. The fragment "...in the year 1951..." can be simplified to "...in 1951...". Text states "...but starting from 1963, it started...", but source says 1964. Although not a copyvio, please try to use wording not similar to the source; for example, use "established its own annual conference" instead of "started independent annual meetings". The sentence "In 1977, the society became the first medical professional society in the country..." is confusing; I am expecting that to be followed by "...to do X", not "...by" (in this case, "...to conduct continuing medical education, by providing..."). The text mentions "Satellite Conference of Neuro-nurses of India", but there's no indication of what it is; state that it was established by NSI (and, per the source, are held yearly with the NSI conference.) You mention the orations, but not what they are or their purpose; also, the source doesn't state the years they were established (only the years awarded). Please add a citation to "The society has five subspeciality societies..." (ref 9 will do). Source 12 makes no mention of "helmets the lack of which causes major head injuries" (shift the citation to after the word "helmet" and it should be OK; it should also be easy to find a source for this). The section "Notable associates" has two references which list many individuals, but there is no explanation why the chosen subset of seven individuals is the "notable" set. Please consider adding page numbers for the book references; you can use {{rp}} immediately after the citation. Although there's a lot here, I think most of this should be relatively easy to fix. Mindmatrix 22:52, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Review for S. T. Narasimhan: moved to namespace on same day as nomination, and is of sufficient length, satisfying length and date criteria. Please indicate page numbers for cited sources; you can use {{rp}}, {{sfn}}, or some other method. When citing a book that is a collection of articles (such as ref 3), please use {{cite encyclopedia}} so you can cite the specific article (in this case, use |encyclopedia=Textbook of Epilepsy Surgery|editor-last=Luders|editor-first=Hans O.|title=Epilepsy surgery in India|last1=Lachhwani|first1=D.K.|last2=Radhakrishnan|first2=K etc., and use p= to indicate the start and end pages of that specific article). I can find no mention of Kilpauk in ref 6, only Madras (source 5 mentions it, though, on page 360). Source states "EEG service", not "EEG records" (I assume the former is diagnostic, the latter documentary; perhaps "EEG recording" was intended.) Please fill in ref 5 details (volume, issue/number, author). Aside: the first ref mentions "Nadkarni et al, 2002" as the source of the cited claim; it may be worth searching for this document, as it may contain other biographical info about this person, but it is not necessary for this DYK. Not much to do for this one, but there area few minor issues. Mindmatrix 00:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Review for Baldev Singh (neurologist): moved to namespace on same day as nomination, and is of sufficient length, satisfying length and date criteria. The fragment "third-highest civilian award" is not mentioned in the source provided, which only lists winners. Please format ref 2 per instructions for ref 5 in the S. T. Narasimhan review, and fill in ref 1 with additional details (volume, issue/number, pages). The sentence "Singh was based in Delhi and was trained from United States of America" is not very good. [Note: I changed it before submitting my review] Three successive paragraphs begin with "In [year],..."; readers would probably prefer a change of pace, but such a change is not required for DYK. Only these minor changes are needed to this article. Mindmatrix 01:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Overall review: All articles satisfy date and length criteria. No copyvio or close paraphrasing in any of the articles. The hook is OK and has citations in the text, but it's not particularly compelling. Perhaps trim the hook to only use surnames, and then maybe expand it to mention they were pioneers in epilepsy surgery. There are a few fixes to make overall, but not too many. By the way, source 1 at Baldev Singh mentions he was known as "grandfather neuron", which is a somewhat interesting tidbit that could be mentioned on his article. Mindmatrix 01:17, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • @Mindmatrix: We have addressed your comments. Please let us know if anything is missing or needed. - Vivvt (Talk) 22:37, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
  • We are ok with the proposed hook. I hope it does not need a new reviewer. - Vivvt (Talk) 23:10, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Good to go for ALT1. Note to promoter: the addition I made to the hook is found here, page 134, paragraph preceding "Initial enthusiasm" section: "Incidentally, the four pioneers who were involved with the early development of epilepsy surgery in India - Chandy, Singh, Ramamurthi, and Narasimhan..." It is included in the two articles Baldev Singh (neurologist) and S. T. Narasimhan. Mindmatrix 00:46, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
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