Template:Did you know nominations/Hereford Cathedral Library

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The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 10:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Hereford Cathedral Library

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... that Hereford Cathedral Library contains the Hereford Mappa Mundi and Wycliffite Bible?

Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Martinevans123 (talk), Felix Folio Secundus (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:17, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Length, tone, date all fine. Interesting article. However the key citations for the hook are from Herefordcathedral.org, which I think is questionable in terms of independence. Tigerboy1966 20:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

no response for 7 days. Nom needs to do review.--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed Birchandra Manu massacre.

Comment: I don't really see why the cathedral website cannot be used to support the article. That would be like saying you can't use the British Musuem website or its publications for an article about the British Museum. As far as I can see, church websites are regularly used to support church articles, not to mention hundreds of historical sites with their own website. As an example, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Moscow) passed FA last month, and cites the cathedral website. If that passed FA, which is far more rigorously checked than DYK, how can this be blocked for citing the cathedral website? Simon Burchell (talk) 11:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Comment: Absolutely no reason why this site can't be used in the article, but the key facts should be supported by a source which is independent of the subject. Tigerboy1966 07:40, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

OK - looks like I misunderstood the nature of the objection. Thanks for clearing that up. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 07:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

These ALTs don't use the church website. -- Esemono (talk) 00:58, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the oldest volume in the Hereford Cathedral Library is the Hereford Gospels which date to around the year 780 and was the only book to survive the 1055 Hereford Cathedral fire?
ALT2 ... that the oldest volume in the Hereford Cathedral Library is the Hereford Gospels which date to around the year 780?

ALT2 looks good to me. Acceptable off-line source. There are some online sources, for example this one which could be added. Tigerboy1966 07:45, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy with ALT 1 or ALT 2, with preference for the latter. Tigerboy1966 09:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)