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Archive 1

Unitet Naticion Law in Kosovo

The user of the city names in English Language (newer version from the UN liable pilari in Kosovo for such think )

http://www.osce.org/kosovo/13982.html

The original page of the Law (1. in albanian L., 2.Serbian L.)

The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for albanian language.

RREGULLORe NR. 2000/43
UNMIK/REG/2000/43
27 korrik 2000
Mbi numrin, emrat dhe kufinjtë e komunave
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Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm,
Në pajtim me autorizimin e tij të dhënë me rezolutën 1244 (1999) të datës 10 qershor 1999 të
Këshillit të Sigurimit të Kombeve të Bashkuara,
Duke marrë parasysh Rregulloren nr. 1999/1 të datës 25 korrik 1999, të ndryshuar, të
Misionit të Administratës së Përkohshme të Kombeve të Bashkuara në Kosovë (UNMIK)
mbi autorizimin e Administratës së
Përkohshme në Kosovë dhe Rregulloren Nr. 1999/24 të datës 12 dhjetor 1999 të UNMIK-ut
mbi ligjin në fuqi në Kosovë,
Me qëllim të qartësimit të numrit, emrave, shtrirja dhe kufinjve të komunave para mbajtjes
së zgjedhjeve komunale në Kosovë,
Shpall sa vijon:
Neni 1
Numri dhe emrat e komunave
Kosova ka tridhjetë komuna ashtu siç figurojnë në Tabelën ‘A’ të kësaj rregulloreje.
Komunikimi zyrtar nuk përmban asnjë emër për ndonjë komunë i cili nuk figuron në Tabelën ‘A’
të kësaj rregulloreje, përveç që në ato komuna ku komunitetet etnike a gjuhësore joshqiptare
dhe joserbe përbëjnë një pjesë substanciale, emrat e komunave jepen edhe në gjuhët e
atyre komuniteteve.
Neni 2
Shtrirja dhe kufinjtë e komunave
Shtrirja e çdo komune dhe kufinjtë e tyre skicohen nga zonat e tyre përbërëse kadastrale.
Zonat kadastrale të cilat përbëjnë çdo komunë figurojnë në Tabelën ‘B’ të kësaj rregulloreje.
Neni 3
Zbatimi
Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm mund të lëshojë direktiva administrative
në lidhje me zbatimin e kësaj rregulloreje.
Neni 4
Ligji i zbatueshëm
Kjo rregullore mbulon çdo dispozitë në ligjin e zbatueshëm e cila nuk është në përputhje me të.
Neni 5
Hyrja në fuqi
Kjo rregullore hyn në fuqi më 27 korrik 2000.
Bernard Kouchner
Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm

The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for serbian language.

UREDBA BR. 2000/43
UNMIK/URED/2000/43
27. jul 2000. godine
O BROJU, IMENIMA I GRANICAMA OP[TINA
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara,
Shodno ovla{}ewu koje mu je dato Rezolucijom Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih
nacija 1244 (1999) od 10. juna 1999. godine,
Na osnovu Uredbe br. 1999/1 od 25. jula 1999. godine Privremene
administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK), sa izmenama i
dopunama, o ovla{}ewima Privremene uprave na Kosovu i na osnovu Uredbe
UNMIK-a br. 2000/24 od 12. decembra 2000. godine o zakonu koji je u primeni na
Kosovu, <u>(hier is oficele user)</u>
U ciqu razja{wavawa broja, imena, oblasti i granica op{tina pre odr`avawa
op{tinskih izbora na Kosovu,
Ovim objavquje slede}e:
Clan 1
BROJ I IMENA OPSTINA
1.1 Kosovo ima trideset opstina kao sto je dato u Tabeli '''A''' u dodatku ovoj
Uredbi.
1.2 Zvani~na komunikacija ne mo`e da sadrzi bilo koje ime za opstinu koje
nije naziv odredjen u Tabeli A ove Uredbe, osim u onim opstinama gde etni~ke i
jezi~ke zajednice, koje nisu srpske i albanske ~ine znatan deo stanovni{tva, gde
se imena op{tina daju i na jezicima tih zajednica.
Clan 2
PODRU^JA I GRANICE OP[TINA
Podru~je svake op{tine i wene granice su ocrtane wenim sastavnim
katastarskim zonama. Katastarske zone koje ~ine svaku op{tinu su odre|ene u
Tabeli B prilo`enoj u dodatku ovoj Uredbi.
Clan 3
PRIMENA
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara mo`e da donese administrativno
uputstvo u vezi sa primenom ove Uredbe.
Clan 4
ZAKON KOJI JE U PRIMENI
Ova Uredba zamewuje svaku odredbu zakona koji je u primeni a koja nije saglasna
sa wom.
Clan 5
STUPAWE NA SNAGU
Ova Uredba stupa na snagu 27. jula 2000. godine.
Bernar Ku{ner
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara

tabel of contens >A<

TABELA ‘A’ (alb) RASPORED A (ser.)
Emrat e komunave (alb.)IMENA OPSTINA (serb)
Albanski Srpski
01 Deçan \Decani
02 Gjakovë \Djakovica
03 Gllogovc \Glogovac
04 Gjilan \Gnilane
05 Dragash \Dragas
06 Istog \Istok
07 Kaçanik \Kacanik
08 Klinë\ Klina
09 Fushë Kosovë\ Kosovo Polje
10 Kamenicë \Kamenica
11 Mitrovicë \Kosovska Mitrovica
12 Leposaviq \Leposavic
13 Lipjan \Lipqan
14 Novobërdë \Novo Brdo
15 Obiliq \Obilic
16 Rahovec\ Orahovac
17 Pejë\ Pec
18 Podujevë\ Podujevo
19 Prishtinë \Pristina
20 Prizren \Prizren
21 Skenderaj\ Srbica
22 Shtime\ Stimqe
23 Shtërpcë\ Strpce
24 Suharekë\ Suva Reka
25 Ferizaj \Urosevac
26 Viti \Vitina
27 Vushtrri\ Vucitrn
28 Zubin Potok \Zubin Potok
29 Zveçan\ Zvecan
30 Malishevë\ Malisevo

If sambody have a argument Im waitting. In another cases you are going to interpret the dokumets (you are out of UN Law) and you dont have argumet, you dont work for Wikipedia but are destroing the Wikipedia image. I know that my english is not so gut, but a desinformation is not gut for Wikipedia and for the peopel in Kosovo. You can have a problem with "Haage". This tabel is speeken better then I.--Hipi Zhdripi 21:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

No argumet

No argumet!!! please dont inteprete the documents

Sombody have putit this Kosovo place in Serbia stub or category or template here with out argumet. We dont have a argumet that Kosovo is part of S/M. We have tha Constitution of this countrie but we have the rez. 1244 wich is more importen for the Wikipedia and is saying that Kosovo it is a part of Yougoslavia and is prototoriat of UN. Till we dont have a clearly argument from UN, aricel about Kosovo must be out of this stub or category or template. Pleas dont make the discution with intepretation or the Law wich are not accordin to 1244. Everybodoy can do that but that is nothing for Wikipedia.--Hipi Zhdripi 04:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

First learn English, then talk. A nice day! Radutalk 18:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Names of places in Zubin Potok in Serbian were badly written so I fixed that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.192.232 (talk) 10:14, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Why replace the Kosovo map with an old map of Serbia? Zubin Potok is in Kosovo. bobrayner (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

What are you saying?! I and my country strongly disagree with you!--Логаритам (talk) 17:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

If you want to live in the 20th century, that's your choice. However, if you really are speaking for a whole country, you'd better remind them that it's 2014. Kosovo declared independence several years ago. bobrayner (talk) 20:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Bobrayner is correct; Kosovo declared independence over five years ago. Please stop edit warring. Epicgenius (talk) 18:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

It is not-recognizition country.--Логаритам (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Serbia does not recognize it but that's only natural as they split-off from Serbia. Kosovo is recognized by the vast majority of the European states + multiple other important states. --Denniss (talk) 18:33, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Kosovo never will member of UUN because don't have recognition by Russia and China. European states is not authority. In the European Union, too, will never enter. important states, if you are talking about America, it is not an important country, and sad shit.--Логаритам (talk) 19:06, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Just because one place doesn't recognize an independent country does not mean that it is wrong for everyone to recognize that independent country. Serbia is not the rest of the world. This is supposed to be the map from the perspective of the world. If you want to argue that Kosovo is a Serbian state, do so at Talk:Kosovo. Epicgenius (talk) 18:40, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

The world is Russia and Serbia (+ some others country). But not USA and other sheat.--Логаритам (talk) 17:47, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Missing irony tag, otherwise LOL. --Denniss (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Why do you think the world only those who recognize Kosovo? Kosovo not recogtition by "World" because is not a member of the UN. The UN recognizes the territorial integrity of Serbia.--Логаритам (talk) 17:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

This is a wikipedia talk page and WP:NOTAFORUM. IJA (talk) 17:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Answer, please on my questions.--Логаритам (talk) 03:47, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

No, because your questions belong on a Forum, not a Wikipedia talk page. IJA (talk) 09:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Fake municipal sites

[1] is, obviously, the official municipal website. It's the same as other Kosovo municipality websites. Anastan continues to replace that with a different website in a different country. Stop this tendentious editing. bobrayner (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@Bobrayner: Do you have any evidence that zubin-potok.org.rs is not the official web site of the municipality? The domain is registered to the Municipal Assembly of Zubin Potok (you can check it out here: [2]). Web sites are not located "in countries". You can register any sub-domain of every country from whichever part of the world. For example, rks-gov.net is registered in the United States. By the way, the link that you are trying to insert as an official website, is dead ([3]). Vanjagenije (talk) 21:17, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Of course that it is registered in the United States, none would expect that they are actually independent. zubin-potok.org.rs is of course official website, but i am just not sure that some editor here would stand to see anything serbian in this article, no matter facts, no matter rules. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 15:06, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Stop acting like children and include both links. IJA (talk) 12:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@IJA: Is there any reason to include the dead link? Vanjagenije (talk) 17:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Because it's the official site. Curiously, the whole ministry's site has had an outage since shortly after our disagreement began.

Vanjagenije, your comments imply that you actually believe the domain registration data of zubin-potok.org.rs is genuinely true. I'm not surprised that Anastan would find it expedient to believe that site is really run by the municipality and that the municipality is in Serbia, but I had hitherto believed that Vanjagenije was a good editor. This would be a very great surprise to the government of Kosovo and, needless to say, it would be a breach of the Brussels Agreement.

Equally, I'm amazed by the implication that you think http://www.rks-gov.net/ isn't the official Kosovo government website. Let's get this in black and white: Are you saying that http://www.rks-gov.net/ isn't the official Kosovo government website, that it's some kind of impostor, whilst the only legitimate site is an amateurish Joomla page which maintains the pretence that Kosovo never declared independence? bobrayner (talk) 20:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Bobrayner, try to comment on content, not on the contributor. I agree with you that www.rks-gov.net is the official site of the government of Kosovo, which, of course does not mean that kk.rks-gov.net/zubinpotok/ is the official site of the municipality of Zubin Potok. I provided you evidence that zubin-potok.org.rs is registered to the Municipal assembly of Zubin Potok, while you did not provide any evidence to prove that kk.rks-gov.net/zubinpotok/ has any connection to the Municipality. You know, the Kosovo Government being surprised is not really an evidence. And, I don't see what Brussels Agreement has to do with this. Is there anything about web sites in the agreement? You should be aware that Kosovo does not have its own internet top-level domain, so it's not a big surprise that the Municipality of Zubin Potok has a web site in the .rs domain. If you check out this text, you'll see that on the entrance to the territory of the Municipality of Zubin Potok, there is a sign with the coat-of-arms of Serbia, but without the coat-of-arms of Kosovo. That is because Zubin Potok is populated almost exclusively by Serbs who do not recognize independent Kosovo. Whether they are right or not, and whether they respect the Brussels Agreement or not is another story. But, the fact is that this municipality does not recognize Kosovo as an independent country. So, it is very logical that they have an official web site registered in Serbia, since their position is that their municipality is in Serbia. I don't understand your surprise at all. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

It's because Zubin Potok municipality is in Northern Kosovo. It's not unusual to see that rules different from the rest of Kosovo apply there. It's why Brussels Agreement doesn't have to do much with Zubin Potok's jurisdictions. People from North Kosovo sometimes they even oppose the Republic of Serbia. I'm sure everyone here is aware of the fact that in Pristina they declared independence for Kosovo but we surely can't ignore another fact: that Republic of Kosovo has its disputes at least with North Kosovo. Exactly over territory, jurisdictions and such. That's why it is only logical that www.rks-gov.net - the official Republic of Kosovo government website and probably much of Kosovo's government as a whole will hardly find its way in North Kosovo's institutions. And have the official site of their liking. At least for now. Not saying that they won't agree in the future, but for the time being: hardly. --biblbroks (talk) 22:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

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