Talk:Wouter Hanegraaff

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Wouter Hanegraaff article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group.

Netherlands

This article falls within the scope of WikiProject Netherlands, an attempt to create, expand, and improve articles related to the Netherlands on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, visit the project page where you can join the project or contribute to the discussion.NetherlandsWikipedia:WikiProject NetherlandsTemplate:WikiProject NetherlandsNetherlands articles

Philosophy Low‑importance

	Philosophy portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of content related to philosophy on Wikipedia. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the general discussion about philosophy content on Wikipedia.PhilosophyWikipedia:WikiProject PhilosophyTemplate:WikiProject PhilosophyPhilosophy articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

The following Wikipedia contributor may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view.

Wouter_J._Hanegraaff (talk · contribs)

Untitled

Doesn't look like this guy passes the professor test. Every tenured professor has written a couple of scholarly books and maybe edits a scholarly journal. Not enough, unless I'm missing something. Nicely done article, but should probably be deleted. Herostratus 03:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His book on the New Age movement is one of the first if not the first non-polemical academic reviews of the subject (i.e. it is written neither from a sceptical nor a religionist perspective, and presents an analysis of the movement on the basis of its important texts). That alone makes him notable (plus the fact that book has a decent print run, being printed by SUNY Press)

In addition he has co-written and edited a number of books and journals (full details on his hime page). Included in the Wikipedia Notability Criteria is:

Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more

Since Hanegraaff is already a published author (one book), co-author (several books), and/or editor (a number of books, plus a number of journals), that surely makes him notable.

M Alan Kazlev 08:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll remove the ((importance)) that then. Herostratus 11:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Herostratus :-) M Alan Kazlev 11:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hanegraaff

Any known realtionship between the two Hanegraaffs? --Pjacobi 22:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

none that i know of! M Alan Kazlev 20:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

>They are family, brothers even, I think

No, Hank's father is a brother of Wouter's father.

>Aha, thanks, i couldn't remember correctly.

Copyright violation, unsourced or badly sourced material in a BLP article

Unsourced material in BLP articles is not allowed and should be removed. Also material relationg to his publications must be sourced to reliable sources, if reliable sources are not found then the material may be in addition against UNDUE and Original research — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riley0O0O0O (talk • contribs) 03:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So, the University of Amsterdam is not a reliable source? Wholeheartedly disagree. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I also know that Amsterdam is more liberal than other places, but this is wikipedia not Amsterdam. The text was non-peer reviewed and copyright violation. Don't you think that better sources should be used and not copyright violation? I cannot imagine that Wikipedia is as liberal as Amsterdam

@Riley0O0O0O: could you please give the exact source from which this would be a copy-violation, and explain, with quotes, how this ia a copy-violation? Pinging User:Diannaa: do you see a copy-vio here? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:26, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see copies of this anywhere else online (other than a couple of Wikipedia mirrors). We've had some of the material for a very long time, which means copyvio would be very difficult to prove at this point. It's all unsourced though — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See here https://web.archive.org/web/20171222095847/http://www.uva.nl/profiel/h/a/w.j.hanegraaff/w.j.hanegraaff.html Many sentences are copied from there. Other problem is that it is non-peer reviewed (not good source).

For example, compare this
It tells "the neglected story of how intellectuals since the Renaissance have tried to come to terms with a cluster of 'pagan' ideas from late antiquity that challenged the foundations of biblical religion and Greek rationality". "Expelled from the academy on the basis of Protestant and Enlightenment politics", Hanegraaff argues that "these traditions have come to be perceived as the Other by which academics define their identity to the present day".
with this
Wouter J. Hanegraaff tells the neglected story of how intellectuals since the Renaissance have tried to come to terms with a cluster of "pagan" ideas from late antiquity that challenged the foundations of biblical religion and Greek rationality. Expelled from the academy on the basis of Protestant and Enlightenment polemics, these traditions have come to be perceived as the Other by which academics define their identity to the present day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riley0O0O0O (talk • contribs) 11:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]