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Proposed Merge with Parquetry

(Not all hardwood flooring is tongue-and-groove, but most is. There are some rare "retro" type installations that still occur in the modern world involving pegs or dowels, even visible steel fasteners.) I hope more HTML-knowledgable people will help in this article. I also hope that industry-driven hype is kept to a minimum.Mydogtrouble (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I disagree with the proposed merge because Parquetry is quite different to what is being discussed in this article. In fact I believe that the Parquetry article is incorrectly discussing end-matched hardwood flooring, which should be discussed here. The images in the Parquetry article are not of a parquetry floor, they are of end-matched tongue and groove floor boards. Parquetry is an ornamental style of flooring that uses geometric shapes and contrasting colours of timber to produce a pattern. The type of flooring we are talking about in this article is always tongue and groove, normally using boards of the same species, and end matched so that random lengths can be used. This is the commercial flooring product in use today. SilentC 22:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll assume you are right about the other page being the incorrect (I don't know much about woodworking). As you say, we currently have two articles with largely overlapping content and no cross-linking. Some kind of restructure/reorganization seems sensible, even if we continue to have two separate pages - thus the merge tag.

Robennals 05:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with SilentC, a lot of the parquetry article and the photos are about end matched flooring. Further, there is a basic difference in that T&G flooring boards are a structural layer in their own right, but parquetry is not structural. It falls into a similar category to ceramic tiles. billbeee 20:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NO to the propered merge, theyre 2 different things. That the articles need work doesnt look like a good reason to merge 2 different topics to me.

Tabby (talk) 03:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have heard that bamboo florring is more environment friendly and is soon becoming more popular. In such a scenario, can you please spell out the advantages of Hardwood flooring which can be highlighted in a comparison with bamboo flooring. Thanks a lot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.246.18 (talk) 05:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can I remove this comment? Bamboo flooring is not wood flooring and the environmental benefits of bamboo are almost entirely made up by marketing. Plus, this really seems like a request for consumer information ... -prog —Preceding unsigned comment added by Progflea (talk • contribs) 17:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Total misrepresentation of information

The information in this article is very inaccurate, misinformed, and following mostly in the marketing of North American wood flooring manufacturers. I am going to start to rewrite the article as I have time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Progflea (talk • contribs) 20:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just made a bunch of changes without signing in, my mistake. I'm also new to writing wikipedia articles, so feel free to leave feedback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Progflea (talk • contribs) 15:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I moved this comment to the bottom as that's where new sections are commonly added to talk pages. There's a nice picture of tongue and groove boards near the end of Talk:parquetry which could usefully go in this article I think. Dmcq (talk) 16:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes

I've just finished rewriting the section on engineered wood floor and created a section comparing engineered to solid wood, as I believe it's important to know the characteristics of the different types of floors. However, in rereading it, I feel as though it is biased towards engineered wood flooring, although the facts are all accurate. I've tried editing it, but perhaps someone else can comment on where I'm putting opinion over fact, or presenting information in an unfair manner.

Also, I am not familiar with the formatting style that should be used - are numerical lists acceptable? Tips would be appreciated. -prog —Preceding unsigned comment added by Progflea (talk • contribs) 17:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see someone taking an interest in the area. Basics like walls or flooring tend to be ignored. Wikipedia has a Manual of Style which you can look at. Numerical lists are formatted by putting # at the start of each line.

I'm not sure what precisely you disagreed with in the previous text. The main thing I noticed removed is you removed the bit about using aluminium oxide to provide a hard wearing surface, do you believe that is particular to some company or what?

You don't need to emphasise with 'but are categorically not'.

I'm not sure what 'Wood Refinishing is a sandless alternative' is about. Perhaps you mean something like stripping and resealing? Also it's a good idea to avoid terms like recent in an encyclopaedia.

More unusual words or special terms relevant to the article like veneer are more suitable for linking than boiled or blade which are common and have no special meaning in the context.

If you could provide citations for anything it would be nice.

Trying to avoid bias is good. It's a bit inevitable if one knows more about a particular area but if you're aware of it then it won't be too far out. Dmcq (talk) 19:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: "the facts are all accurate", please provide documentation for the facts especially regarding solid wood over concrete. Lfschrim (talk) 17:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I wish that person had done something about those comments. I can't give references but I do know people are always advised to put a vapour membrane over a concrete floor ifputting down a wood floor, and the concrete should have been down for half a year o more preferably. Dmcq (talk) 18:02, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I totally forgot about this page. I will continue working on it, but the internet seems to be lacking in non-corporate information regarding hardwood flooring.

Re: Wood over concrete - this is because concrete is porous and wood absorbs moisture. When wood absorbs moisture, it expands - this is bad for a floor. Engineered wood is floated over a vapour barrier to stop the moisture passing into the wood. Solid wood is more fickle and cannot be floated - it must be glued down or nailed. Obviously, you cannot nail into concrete. Directly glueing to the concrete doesn't work because the glue will create moisture when it cures and the concrete will continue to sweat, constantly exposing the floor to moisture. Hence, a platform system must be installed over the concrete and then have the solid wood installed over the platform. Will update page with links when I find the technical info online.--Progflea (talk) 14:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link. Solid wood installation guide that shows two systems for installing over concrete: [1]--Progflea (talk) 15:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi guys, I noticed a lot of information on this page has changed so I rewrote most of the intro section. I'm also thinking that it would be good to have a section that discusses the different characteristics of floors - i.e. pre-finished vs unfinished, bevelled vs unbevelled, wood hardness vs finish hardness. I'm trying to avoid having it appear as a consumer-information type article by being inclusive of all types of products rather than just the popular ones. Let me know how it is and what information you think should be added. Also, some of the information won't have any references - ie. the expansion of wood - since it is a characteristic of wood. In those cases, should I link to a wood page on Wikipedia, or? I'll try to find the answers myself. --Progflea (talk) 22:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page is a disaster

The information on this page is an absolute disaster...little is accurate. e.g. engineered wood flooring is NOT more stable than solid. The dimensional stability of a floor is directly correlated to it's thickness. This is a wreck of a page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardwoodflooring (talk • contribs) 21:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you can provide references for what you say please? Dmcq (talk) 20:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hardwoodflooring, you are wrong, although you did point out why engineered is more stable - each layer is thinner than a solid wood floor. In any case, here is why you're wrong: wood flooring has three dimensions: width, length and height. Each dimension affects the stability of a floor. The total volume of the floor and the species of wood will determine how much it expands and contracts. Singling out the height is just silly. What about quartersawn wood? Does that mean the width becomes the only dimension that effects stability?--Progflea (talk) 14:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parquetry & Hardwood & Engineered floors & Solid

Hello,

Parquetry & Hardwood & Engineered floors & Solid are related but they´re not the same product, either because its installation or their behaviour. Wood floors should cover: Solid wood floors ( parquetry, harwood ) and engineered. I´ll try to rearrange it this way.--Euroescritor (talk) 09:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.57.23.61 (talk) 08:21, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]