Talk:William Laird IV

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Requested move 29 September 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Two moved as proposed but Bill Laird redirected to the DAB. That got complicated, but I judge rough consensus on all three of these results. Andrewa (talk) 01:49, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

William Laird IV → Bill Laird
Bill Laird → Bill Laird (ice hockey)
William R. Laird III → William Laird III

– William Laird IV is more popularly known as "Bill", as he uses that name on Facebook, as do multiple media outlets, such as this 2009 article by The Register-Herald in Beckley, WV [1] and 2015 article by West Virginia MetroNews [2]. As a county sheriff and state legislator in the US state of West Virginia, Bill Laird has had more real world influence than the 1920s ice hockey goalkeeper Bill Laird whose article is in the current "Bill Laird" space, so I recommend the name swap above per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.

On his father William R. Laird III, many sources do omit his middle initial, like the US Senate art and history section as well as the Fayette County Wall of Honor. I am recommending "William Laird III" per WP:NATURALDIS. Arbor to SJ (talk) 19:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. DrStrauss talk 20:48, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose first, neutral on second, support third. I see plenty of sources using the full name,[3][4] so doesn't seem like we need to move away from that when the current title already meets WP:NATURALDIS. I also dispute that he's the primary topic for Bill Laird. The hockey player looks like he was at the top end of the game back in the 1920s, so should be at least equal in significance to a West Virginia senator. None of these articles get significant page views at all, and none stand out from the others in that department.[5] The third move looks good though, for consistency. — Amakuru (talk) 11:04, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Move Bill Laird as proposed and retarget that title to the disambiguation page William Laird. bd2412 T 19:05, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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