Talk:Wikimedian of the Year

Principal project

Unresolved

Does someone know 2017 honorable mention recipient Diego Gómez's principal project? The only text-based "hole" in the chart. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:03, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Not answered, so will try again. And is the honoree even an editor on Wikipedia (a Wikipedian)? Randy Kryn (talk) 15:18, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm starting to think we should just eliminate the "Principal project" columns altogether. In some cases, the cell is not applicable, and in other cases, multiple projects apply. I'm also not sure the column's sort function is particularly helpful. Thoughts on removing the column and mentioning projects in the Rationale cells? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)\

( Peanut gallery comment) I agree with merging into rationale; I doubt many are trying to sort by project and space is valuable. Queen of Hearts ^talk 02:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I think the principal project column provides useful information and I'd be inclined to keep it. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Wade

I see this list was just promoted to FL status (congrats!), but the description for Jess Wade seems off. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Popped an 'is' in there, seems better. Randy Kryn (talk) 21:33, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Randy Kryn, See "As of February 2020, she has written over 900 articles. began to write articles to "better represent women and people of colour". ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:12, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Missed that, thought you meant the first sentence. How about something like: Wade is a physicist who began a year-long effort to create Wikipedia articles about scientists and engineers which "better represent women and people of colour". As of February, 2020, she had written over 900 new titles. (EDIT: I'll add it for now, been editing a bit since writing this}

Should also mention the year she started. Spotted a wall-of-text paragraph in the lead, will check that out. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:25, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Another Believer, can you check the source for the 2015 recipient and see if the edit I just made is accurate. From the source it reads as if the Commons uploader was mentioned as an example and not the actual awardee, who still remains secret and undescribed. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:52, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Consistent column widths

Unresolved

Anyone good with tables know how to set consistent column widths across tables so the scroll down is a lot cleaner? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:29, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Peacock tag

Randy Kryn, this article does have a lot of puffery regarding several of the winners; as examples,

• "for his massive contributions to the Malay Wiktionary" editorializing massive.
• "provided invaluable contributions to medical content on Wikimedia" editorializing invaluable.
• "Citrawati was instrumental in...through her valiant..."
• "Gelauff is a prolific contributor, a mentor to many Wikimedians, and a volunteer for many community groups and efforts"
• "Lih is an internationally-renowned..."
• "Lin was a prolific contributor...also a key organizer of..."
• "Väänänen has been a critical volunteer contributor..."

Overall, the article also has a more subtle bias trying far too hard to paint all of these contributors in a very positive light and emphasize their contributions as much as possible, instead of a neutral "so-and-so won because they did this-and-that". It is also sourced mostly to WMF press releases, so the sources being positive isn't a valid defense. AryKun (talk) 15:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree some work is needed here and welcome your help to make the text more neutral. Are you interested? Would love to see some collaboration here to fill in the missing cells, too. I'll try to add some new text. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:19, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello AryKun, I'm not sure about all of them but you may be mixing up Jimbo Wales quoted language upon awarding the individuals with language added by editors, although the quotes should be more obvious. Please have another look. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:23, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Not really, I'm not really interested in meta-Wikipedia type articles. AryKun (talk) 15:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

FYI there's an article about my work and award in the Bay Area Reporter if you or another editor want to add it (I won't do it myself). Funcrunch (talk) 15:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I've added as supplemental secondary coverage. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:39, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

If we are quoting WMF directly, I think the rationales should be in quotes instead of wikivoice. See List of Nobel laureates in Physics and other Nobel list pages. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 16:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Would be nice if the award had "Wikipedian of the Year" and "Wikimedian of the Year" categories (it was named 'Wikipedian of the Year' until 2017). Both would be major awards, with Wikipedia and the sister projects guaranteed an awardee yearly. Another reason to ping Jimbo Wales who may have some thoughts on Another Believer's formatting suggestion below. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Merge cells?

Perhaps we should merge the Image and Recipient cells, in an effort to reduce the number of cells and overall table widths? If there's interest, anyone know the best markup for formatting? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:44, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Proposed format:

List of Wikimedian of the Year winners

Year	Recipient	Principal project	Rationale	Ref.
2011	Rauan Kenzhekhanuly	Kazakh Wikipedia	Kenzhekhanuly recruited a stable community to improve the Kazakh Wikipedia, which in a year increased from 4 to over 200 active editors, and 7,000 to 130,000 articles. Wales was criticized by fellow Wikipedians because of Kenzhekhanuly's ties to the government of Kazakhstan. Wales stated on Reddit in 2015 that he'd been unaware of Kenzhekhanuly's prior positions in the Kazakh government and said that if he had known Kenzhekhanuly was going to go on to become deputy governor of a Kazakh region, he would have "refused to give that award".

References

(or similar). Is this an improvement or not really? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I think it looks better to have the name to the side instead of the top but I couldn't really tell you a reason why based on PAGs. So feel free to take my opinion with a grain of salt. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Any chance anyone would be willing to add "She is youngest recipient of the award" somewhere in the text about Hannah Clover? The source already cited verifies this statement. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh hey, congrats!!

I don't see a great place to put it - it isn't really part of the rationale, which is the only freeform section. I suppose in practice it's kinda a free-for-all but I don't quite see it fitting there regardless. Rusalkii (talk) 05:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I was thinking the end because it's not part of the rationale. I do think it's a detail that should probably be mentioned somewhere but it's not the end of the world if it's not. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 08:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Clovermoss, my recommendation to you is to own and enjoy this award without any effort trying to embellish it or interpret it on your own. Let other editors describe its prestige, and if they do not do so to your liking, just let it be. The award stands for itself forever. Cullen328 (talk) 08:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh I'm not bothered if it isn't implemented and there's a reason I did the edit request instead of simply adding it myself. I just figured I'd mention that the source does actually say I'm the youngest recipient because it seems like a noteworthy detail. It's not me embellishing anything. The source actually introduces me with Meet the youngest Wikimedian of The Year in history! Life goes on regardless. 😅 Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 08:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Good point, the award seems at the stage where it can mention something like youngest-oldest as descriptors, although there is a fly in the ointment - the unidentified 2015 winner. Although the odds are that you are the youngest we have no idea of the age of the 2015 recipient. Awhile ago I asked Jimbo Wales if that winner still had to have their identity hidden, and he said he'd look into it. If they can be identified that would fill in an interesting mystery in the award's history. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I know you can't use this as a source but I did actually ask the foundation ahead of time and they double checked to verify that I was truly the youngest. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. They must have asked Jimbo. The identity of the 2015 winner and their unknown backstory gives the award a unique talking point. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure I need to be in the history section and recipients from other categories (not the main award) have been younger. If text about it is included, I think my entry on the list makes the most sense. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 09:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

But that's me just being nitpicky. I appreciate that you added text about it somewhere. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 09:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

It needed the update anyway since the text listed the winners except those after 2019, the five next winners should also be included for section consistency. Thanks for opening the discussion. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:37, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

That sounds like a reasonable enough rationale to me. Thank you for making the article better :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Hi, I am Caner, this year's Media Contributor of the Year award winner. First of all, I would like to thank the users for the contributions made about me. But I have a request. Would it be possible to use File:Wikimedia Summit 2022 Portraits Kurmanbek (cropped).jpg or File:Portrait of Caner Ozyayikci (cropped).jpg instead of my current photo on the page? The current one is quite dark and makes me look quite small in the image. Kurmanbek (talk) 14:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done, a good idea and option, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Taufik Rosman

Depending on the result at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taufik Rosman, we might want to consider merging some of the content from his article to be included here. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

This was closed as a redirect so I encourage people to look at the history of the page content and see if anything can be transferred here. It was more fully fleshed out than what is currently in this article. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:19, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Nationality

I feel like we should note that Hannah Clover is the first winner from Canada somehow. People probably just assume she's American when scanning this list. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I had many people assume I was American when I was standing in front of them. I seriously had to tell about fifty people I was Canadian. Anyways, there isn't really any sourcing to say I'm the "first" Canadian but there is sourcing to support my nationality itself. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, people are probably going to keep assuming unless we note it somehow. I'm not really sure how to elegantly add it that wouldn't be undue weight though? The rationales for the two American winners don't actually say they're American either, but readers can click on the individal articles and find out. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe add a little country flag beside each winner's name? Funcrunch (talk) 19:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)