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A fact from West Bank Wall graffiti art appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 July 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that one Palestinian man criticized the beauty of West Bank Wall graffiti art (example pictured), telling Banksy: "We don't want this wall to be beautiful. We hate it. Go home"?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Banksy's Flying Balloon Girl

... that one Palestinian man criticized the beauty of the West Bank Wall graffiti art (example pictured), telling Banksy: "We don't want this wall to be beautiful. We hate it. Go home"? Source: Ball, Anna (2013). "Impossible Intimacies: Towards a Visual Politics of "Touch" at the Israeli-Palestinian Border". In A. Valassopoulos (ed.). Arab Cultural Studies: History, Politics and the Popular. Taylor & Francis. pp. 71–72. ISBN 978-1-317-98105-3. Retrieved 2022-05-15.
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Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 22:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

@Onceinawhile: Gasp! I remember fondly my AP lit final essay on A Window on the West Bank. Article is new enough and long enough, but I'd still technically assess it as a stub because it seems to be mostly a lead and a gallery instead of a summarizing lead and well-defined body. Also, I don't see why "Wall" should be capitalized in the title. Hook is cited and in the article, and the QPQ checks out. I'm concerned that the image isn't freely licensed, as Banksy has successfully sued for unauthorized use of his art. Nearly there; nice work! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Theleekycauldron: I'm glad to hear you like it. Sadly the Window on the West Bank has not survived well – this is the photo I managed to take of it a few years ago.

On the title, I just moved it to lowercase wall, but I wonder if uppercase might be better. It currently looks like it refers to "wall graffiti" rather than "West Bank wall", and also it is inconsistent with Berlin Wall graffiti art. What do you think?

On licensing, it is definitely a free image. The Banksy case you refer to was about trademark infringement, not copyright, and on the latter Israel has a very wide freedom of panorama (WikiCommons is clear on this - see Commons:COM:FOP Israel).

Onceinawhile (talk) 10:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: might i suggest West Bank barrier graffiti art, then? I will point out that the constituent articles there are Berlin Wall and Israeli West Bank barrier. FOP rationale checks out. I unlinked Palestinian in the hook- the article will need to be destubified and a title settled on, and then we're good to go! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi theleekycauldron, the wall title is used because the graffiti is only on the walled section. Wall is the common name but is not used for the article you linked to because the barrier as a whole is mostly fence, and that article is about the whole barrier. This article is only about the wall (there is no graffiti on the fence) so per WP:AT we use the more precise (and common) term.

I will try to address your destubify point.

Onceinawhile (talk) 20:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On further reflection I have moved it back to the capital W wall, as ngrams is clear. I have also made clear at Israeli West Bank barrier that the West Bank Wall is a part of the barrier, not a synonym for it, and have added two sources at both articles which confirm this (Leuenberger and Eidelman). Onceinawhile (talk) 07:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: sorry this fell off my radar! All good on article title, but I still feel that the article is a little stubby due to its top-heaviness. I suppose I could approve this with or without this change, but if you could shift some content down to the body so that the lead functions like a real summary, that'd be appreciated. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Theleekycauldron: thank you. I have moved the text as suggested - I agree it looks much better now. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent!

w'all good to go :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 11:09, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]