Talk:Varaha Upanishad

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Hello. I am very curious about when Varaha Upanishad was written. What do we know of its origin? Perhaps it is a collection of several writings spread across a long period of time and by several authors. What do we know about it? Have it been investigated? Perhaps there are different opinions. RhinoMind (talk) 20:25, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Nvvchar for adding some information on the origin of Varaha Upanishad. The major Upanishads dates to 900-600 BCE and is about 3,000 years old, so this is clearly a very recent text. I am curious who has categorized it as part of the Vedas then? I know that most of the recent Upanishads are only considered part of the Vedas by certain religious authorities and not everybody. They are therefore often referred to as "sectarian Upanishads" in scholarly terms. Not to discredit them, but to explain that they are only considered part of the Vedas by some groups and not everyone. That will need to be explained in the article. (one source: "The Upanishads", Edited by Tom Griffith et.al. (2000), Wordsworth Classics of World Literature)

I tried to follow the ref-link for the dating to the 13th-16th century, but page 8 was not available for on-line viewing, so whoever needs confirmation will need a real copy of that book. That being said, I will also have to state that the book (ref) is written from a certain religious/sectarian point of view and with a certain intent, so I suggest we keep looking for a more general, neutral and scholarly source, when trying to date this particular text.

RhinoMind (talk) 02:21, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

The Ten Commandments

There is a broken and disconnected sentence about the Ten Commandments.

I have read up on the ref and on page 62 it states that the ten Yamas listed and described in Varaha Upanishad clearly matches the Ten Commandments. Perhaps the article needs to explain that, as the Yamas are not touched as it is now.

Perhaps this is only one authors opinion? Has it been investigated if the Ten Commandments actually stems from the Yamas? Perhaps it is just a coincidence, perhaps it has not been investigated further? What is known about it? RhinoMind (talk) 20:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Just a comment to my own post. With the dating information we now have, VU does clearly not predate the Bible. It can not be a source for the Ten Commandments, and any associations with them, must be of a more recent nature. It would still be interesting to include some information on it, but it has less importance now. RhinoMind (talk) 17:56, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Varaha Upanishad/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 13:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Will review. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 13:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Lead

• and Ultimate Reality "the" Ultimate Reality

• Done

• Can you add a line about what an Upanishad is?

• Done. Added to main with source, and shorter one to lead.

• "Ribhu" need not be in italics

• Done by @Nvvchar

Etymology and anthology

• the incarnation of Vishnu as boar of "Hindu god" Vishnu, as "a" boar

• Done

• it was created between the 13th and 16th centuries Specify the time of its creation in the lead too.

• Done

• Link Vedic literature

• Done

• Reword: Varaha Upanishad was listed neither in the anthology of ... Shikoh, nor in the early 19th-century Henry Thomas Colebrooke anthology or the Narayana compilations of Upanishads.

• Done

Chronology

• The text is one of the Yoga Upanishads This repeats what was mentioned in the last section

• Removed second instance

• other Yoga Upanishads, it was composed Semicolon instead of comma.

• Done

• Who is Antonio Rigopoulos? Historian?

• Added he is a professor in Italy

• possibly in the middle of 2nd millennium CE Did you mean BCE?

• No. This is a late Upanishad. The earliest Yoga Upanishads are dated to ~4th/2nd-century BCE, the last ones ~15th century CE.

Contents

• Very well-written.

• Well done @Nvvchar !!

• Only the duplinks are the problem: Agni (Tattvas), Brahman (Brahmavidya), karma (Sankalpa), Yoga (Samadhi), Upanishad (Axiology)

• Removed

• There is problem in ref. no. 46.

• Fixed

Nice article. Those were my comments. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 13:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Thanks for the review. I will shortly check the sources and address these points. @Nvvchar: give me 24 hours, please double check / add. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

@Nvvchar: Anything I missed? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:45, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks for replying to the review comments. I am sure @Sainsf: will find them in order. Nvvchar. 17:00, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both! This article is a GA now.--Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 18:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks, Sainsf. As the AutoBot does not leave any message on my nomination both at the start of the GA review and after approval, can you please leave a message of this GA approval on our talk pages?--Nvvchar. 01:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea how to do that. There may be some script that is blocking the bot, or is it something else? I think it is Legobot who is involved with GANs. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 02:02, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

• SainsfYou could use the same format as it is posted on your approved GAs by only changing the name and date of approval of the article and then signing it.Nvvchar. 03:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)