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"TD"

What is "TD"? its very unspecific. Derpdadoodle (talk) 23:18, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Derpdadoodle: TD is for every tropical depression that didnt get a name or numerical designation, but had advisories issued on it. Figfires^{Send me a message!} 14:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should we at least link it so ppl know what we talking about? Derpdadoodle (talk) 13:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, they simply need to know for almost every case it was a TD that was short lived and didn't hit land. Im quite certain WPAC is the only basin that does that anyways. Figfires^{Send me a message!} 14:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Son-Tinh

Why is Son-Tinh a Cat 4? It's only a TS on the Pacific Typhoon scale.Brandontracker (talk) 22:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because a mistake was made when changing the borderline storms back to what they were supposed to be at. Figfires^{Send me a message!} 15:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No deleting this page

I wouldn't consider deleting the page without users (such as Meow and Ymblanter)'s permission because it is very verifiable and cites sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.126.224.68 (talk) 06:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion as to the deletion is currently ongoing and will end in a few days given consensus is reached. They are more than welcome to participate in the AfD, but anyone can nominate a page for deletion without permission. Figfires^{Send me a message!} 17:26, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

For the timeline, wouldn't it be easier to just use the SSHS listing for tropical cyclones by JTWC, NHC, CPHC, etc., since it is the most used scale in the world? HurricaneGonzalo | Talk | Contribs 20:08, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would strongly oppose using the SSHWS for the timeline since it is nothing, but a completely unofficial scale for the majority of the world.Jason Rees (talk) 22:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If some of us really like the SSHWS, why don’t we open two tabs for each one? AAnnoonnyymous (talk) 06:40, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It isnt a question of liking the SSHWS but following Wikipedias rules on Original Research by not using a completely unofficial scale for the majority of the world.Jason Rees (talk) 13:27, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Zorbas

The Medicane "Zorbas" should also be in the timeline! Just like Subtropical Storm Guará in the previous year's article: Tropical Cyclones in 2017. 58.176.218.197 (talk) 05:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lexi in the southeast Pacific is missing too! I will fix both. Thanks for that. AAnnoonnyymous (talk) 09:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There it is with the storm details. If anyone doesn’t want it, please tell me here and I will revert it.AAnnoonnyymous (talk) 09:24, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! 221.126.224.68 (talk) 23:56, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Summary Problem

Anyone who added about six rows to the summary please fix it as soon as possible. If anyone wants to help you are also welcome. AAnnoonnyymous (talk) 13:03, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency in Tropical Storm Count

The tropical systems in the table on the bottom of the page don't add up to the total storms if counted one by one on the page. The table has about 8 or 9 more systems counted, and I checked if it was because systems in 2018, from the 2018-19 seasons, were accidentally counted. I fixed that, but it still doesn't add up. So, either the table has too many or the page is missing some systems. Does someone want to help me figure out why they aren't adding up? Jayab314 (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed Bolaven (Agaton) wasnt included despite it being named and considered to be a part of this year by the JMA and PAGASA.Jason Rees (talk) 14:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Storm Tracks Image

The Storm Tracks Image of this article is about a month or two outdated. There isn't any Hurricane Michael, Hurricane Walaka, Typhoon Yutu, etc. Please fix!

DerpieDerpie:D 16:23, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are Bolaven and Ava considered part of 2018?

Starting the discussion here. As stated in the Inconsistency in Tropical Storm Count section, Bolaven is considered to be a part of 2018 according to JMA and PAGASA. Further discussion on this topic will be here and no further edits will be made on this topic until a consensus is reached. Jayab314 (talk) 18:00, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jayab314: Okay... Ava can be included since Meteo France didn't mark it as a TC until after New Year's. However, even though Bolaven is considered a part of the 2018 season, it should not be included here. It is only part of the 2018 season because it was named in January. The JMA marked it as a TC (was a tropical depression) on December 29 which makes it a 2017 TC. Noah^Talk 19:30, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah: But what I don't understand is why it can't be a part of both. I simply thought since it formed in December, but dissipated in January, it should be considered part of both. It even says on the actual Wikipedia page for Bolaven, "The system also spanned two calendar years, making it a part of both the 2017 and 2018 seasons." And the same argument can be made for Ava, so I believe both Ava and Bolaven are considered a 2018 TC. Jayab314 (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jayab314: @Hurricane Noah: So, Is Bolaven and Ava named in 2017 or 2018? If is named in 2017 then it is a 2017 storm. Acyclonxe (talk) 08:32, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Acyclonxe: @Hurricane Noah: According to Hurricane Noah, Meteo France didn't name Ava until 2018. According to the Bolaven Wikipedia page, Bolaven wasn't officially named by either PAGASA or JMA until January 1. Also, Bolaven didn't become a tropical depression until 18:00 UTC on January 1. Therefore, I say Ava and Bolaven are 2018 TCs. Jayab314 (talk) 12:10, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind the JTWC stuff does not matter one bit. "Forming as part of the 2017 Pacific typhoon season, the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) began tracking on a weak tropical depression that had developed about 172 km (107 mi) to the south-southwest of Palau on December 30, 2017" JMA is all that counts. Forget it... include them both on both pages. Make sure you show the full length of their existence in the timeline if you do. Noah^Talk 23:40, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The JMA counts it as a part of the 2018 Season hence the 1801 designation not 17XX and I personally would prefer to see it in both articles but only counted towards 2018.Jason Rees (talk) 13:55, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Owen

In the article, it claims Owen lasted for 30 days, yet the info for Owen ends on December 20 0:00 and starts on November 29. This does not add up to 30; it adds up to 21. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyclone of Foxes (talk • contribs) 20:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyclone of Foxes: An IP editor changed it to say 30 days. Noah^Talk 02:48, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So, would Iris win at 24?Cyclone of Foxes (talk) 14:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Noah^Talk 19:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Problem here...

So, a TL’s link in December linked to a TL in November. What... Acyclonxe (talk) 08:36, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Acyclonxe: Yes, All Australian region TL's will link to the November one because we cannot specify which one we want to link to. The code just links it to the first TL which is the November one. No way of fixing it unless we change the names of the TL's to TL 1, TL 2, etc. or we just link each Australian TL to the article and not to the specific section. Jayab314 (talk) 15:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To link to a specific system you are allowed to add the following characters to the end of the URL _2 _3 etc and no we are not assigning numbers to the TL's for the reaon they were removed: Original Research.Jason Rees (talk) 02:40, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What? What you put doesn’t make any sense to me. @Jason Rees: Acyclonxe (talk) 08:26, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge section

Should I merge 1.3 (Central Pacific Ocean) into 1.2 (Eastern Pacific Ocean)?

Brandontracker (talk) 05:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since I was the one who added it, I simply merged it. We need people to fill out these sections and do it properly as the article is currently far from complete. Noah^Talk 23:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]