Talk:Tone sandhi

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In Standard Mandarin the pronunciation of one word can have several distinct pronunciations depending on context. For example, 不 is usually pronounced bù, but when it is followed by the fourth tone (falling tone), it changes to bú, as in 不要: bú yào. Does this also have something to do with Tone sandhi? --Abdull 11:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's tone sandhi, though in this case it involves only that one word. If we were to expand the coverage of Mandarin, we could illustrate the niihao type as we have, the buhyaw example you've given, and the behavior of yi 'one', plus perhaps the phonetic realizations of toneless syllables. kwami 17:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dubious

This is a comment (not mine) that was hidden in the text referring to tone sandhi for the neutral tone: "The rules for neutral tone are more complex than this, changing with sentence emphasis. Without the variation in when neutral is high, medium high, medium low, or low, there would be no sandhi on neutral and these would instead be documented as "actual" tones, but would lie outside of the common four". Talu42 (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

TONE SANDHI Patterns across Chinese dialects MATTHEW Y. CHEN City University of Hong Kong

http://assets.cambridge.org/052165/2723/sample/0521652723WS.pdf

Rajmaan (talk) 08:20, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Lao

It would be very good if somebody could add some information on tone sandhi in the Lao language, as resources are very difficult to find on the Internet. — Hippietrail (talk) 16:13, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

unrelated to above. just commendmentt

I wanted to say good article. 67.84.41.222 (talk) 02:25, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Pronunciation of 一个/一個

Setting aside the phonological analysis, speakers do in fact say "yí ge". You can hear it for yourself here, for example. The pronunciation "yì ge" is either totally incorrect or at best correct only for some speakers. If it's totally incorrect, then it should be removed. If it's correct for some speakers, then it needs a citation. —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:20, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Without throwing the fact that I speak Mandarin, I’d mention that I’ve listed an entry to the ministry of education dictionary that clearly lists the pronunciation of ge in this case being 5th tone. There’s really nothing to be said about variety in Chinese speech. Mandarin is spoken by such a massive number of people that there’s of course going to be variety in speech. But the standard pronunciation as recorded in dictionaries uses the fifth tone for 個 when it’s a measure word, as opposed to 4th (個體) or 3rd (自個兒). The ministry of education dictionary is a more credible source than forvo. Île flottante (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm not disputing the fact that the measure word 个 is usually pronounced with a neutral tone. What I'm disputing is the unsourced claim that the 一 in 一个 is pronounced with a falling tone. —Granger (talk · contribs) 23:28, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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