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A fact from Tomato sandwich appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that many enthusiasts say that a good tomato sandwich is so messy, it should be eaten over the kitchen sink?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tomato sandwich.

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American cuisine

The tomato sandwich seems to be an American thing. If you google it, the vast majority of hits will be from US sites. Of course, British people eat tomatoes in sandwiches, but usually in small quantities with other ingredients, particularly cheese. There is no tradition of the American style dish. --Ef80 (talk) 14:16, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I looked up this article just a little while ago as I was on the Instagram for BuzzFeed Oz and they mentioned tomato sandwiches (something about a list of most reviled Aussie brown bag lunch items for school kids, I think. It's the first time I had heard of such a thing (In America, we do have BLT's/BLTA's [with avocado]). Not sure how common it is in Australia. YellowAries2010 (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

North Carolina

I think it's a stretch, given the text of the section I am referring to, to say that it's any kind of tradition in North Carolina specifically, in any part of the year. The source linked to just doesn't back up the text of the wiki that I'm referring to "In the state of North Carolina they are most commonly associated with summer". It may be true, but the source doesn't indicate season, nor indicate that other states don't see tomato sandwiches as a tradition. But I'll leave it up incase somebody can fix or clarify this issue. YellowAries2010 (talk) 01:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron talk 09:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tomato sandwich

... that the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) are so messy they may need to be eaten over the kitchen sink? Source: https://gardenandgun.com/articles/the-souths-best-tomato-sandwiches/ "The very best tomato sandwich is the one you eat while leaning over the kitchen sink, impervious to the Duke's mayonnaise getting on your fingers and the tomato juice dribbling down your chin. Or so says nearly every story that's ever been written about the South's most beloved sandwich, a glorious summertime treat."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anderson's Grocery

5x expanded by Valereee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 73 past nominations.

Valereee (talk) 17:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - See below.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great expansion; very informative article on a local delicacy. QPQ and Earwig all good. The problem is the hook, which is misleadingly written in wikivoice. The hook needs to make clear that it is not stating an objective fact, but referring to an opinion from the cited source. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, CurryTime7-24 -- would this work:

ALT0a: ... that the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) are so messy, enthusiasts recommend they be eaten over the kitchen sink?

Valereee (talk) 22:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is better, but "best sandwiches" and their suggested ideal method of eating are both opinions from the cited source. Slight adjustments to ALT0a should solve this issue. Thanks for the reply! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0b: ... that enthusiasts consider the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) to be so messy that they should be eaten over the kitchen sink?

* Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Pppery...maybe a slight tweak:

ALT0c: ... that some enthusiasts consider the best tomato sandwiches (pictured) to be those so messy they should be eaten over the kitchen sink?

ALT1: ... that some enthusiasts consider being so messy it needs to be eaten over the kitchen sink one of the marks of a good tomato sandwich (pictured)?

Valereee (talk) 13:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ping CurryTime7-24 -- does one of these work for you? Valereee (talk) 17:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both ALT0c and ALT1 are dandy, thanks! Great work. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you, Valereee (and others) for this expansion and article. I am utterly gobsmacked to learn it is considered a Southern US phenomenon, though: I did not grow up in the US, and Kentucky is the farthest south i ever lived there, yet i have considered this one of my top three sandwiches all my life. I may be a crypto-Dixie, y'all! Seriously, though, excellent article. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 07:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LindsayH, thanks! Where are you from? For me (Cincinnati, which is the northernmost Southern city) we don't really know tomato sandwiches. We know BLTs. Valereee (talk) 21:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Valereee. I grew up in the south ~ of England

~ which is where i first ate these sandwiches. BLTs, though i never came across till i married an American and moved there. As for Cincinnati, my happiest memory of there probably involves chilli.... Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 07:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LindsayH, interesting! Many Americans, on encountering Cincinnati chili for the first time and expecting some version of chili con carne, hate it. Maybe an Englishwoman, not going in with those expectations, is a little more open minded. :D If you come across mentions of the sandwich as known in England, I'd love to add that in here! Valereee (talk) 10:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]