Talk:Tom Zenk

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Uh, what does that "Bulge Report" have to do with this at all?

Incrediblehulk you should be banned from editing this page. I knew Tom in life since the 1980’s and know his family; not like you, just from TV or wrestling magazines. How dare you have false info about criminal activity that never existed for God knows how long because you you READ about it without even checking Minnesota criminal records that were open to the public. Then his family and I posted corrections (even noting edited by the Zenk family) yesterday to who he really was as a person that were accepted and edited properly by another volunteer only for YOU to delete them all late last night, leaving only what you READ. You didn’t know Tom and knew nothing about the human being he was! You don’t own his page and obviously don’t understand that in wrestling the person you see on TV and read about in the wrestling mags is only a gimmick and wrestling isn’t real. You have no grasp at all who Tom really was and your obsession with “Owning” his page is a travesty. Wrestling Angel (talk) 11:08, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

It wasn't only Incrediblehulk who removed family recollections. All information in Wikipedia should be referenced to reliable sources that are already published elsewhere. That's how Wikipedia works. Perhaps you could publish a biography, then this could be used as a reference? Dbfirs 07:04, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply; a 12-year-old section named "Untitled" is quite well-hidden and Dbfirs got my name wrong, too. Anyway, I don't have much to say that I didn't already at the Help Desk. I personally wish you and yours well in this hard time, but like you say, I and everyone on the outside of your circle can only know him from what we read, hear and see on TV, the same way you know every other famous person. Sometimes fame attracts negative attention, and much negative media attention is pure hurtful fabrication.

But like you say, Meltzer is pretty reliable. Checking Minnesota records wouldn't show me arrests without convictions, but you bringing it up does suggest whatever didn't happen didn't happen after the St. Paul show. In any case, it was one forgettable night that should be eclipsed by his character coming back the next night to make it four straight singles victories over the (until that point) great and powerful Oz. It's hard to overstate what that means to someone who grew up on only the televised gimmicks back when. That it culminated in the Boylan Catholic High School only adds to its punch as a redemption angle. The real-world allegation is forgiven and forgotten, as far as I'm concerned.

If you want to add verifiable facts from reliable sources in a neutral voice, something like you see in other bios, you're as free as you've always been to add them. I don't own this page or any others, nor have I ever pretended to. I'm just an average schlub with mundane democratic power who tries to follow the rules and sometimes enforces them. When it's for good reason, I'll help people bend them, but personal tragedy is no excuse to break them. It's a good excuse to spread the good word about a missing loved one on many other popular platforms, if you just feel like shouting it out. Good luck. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:10, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, apologies for copying Wrestling Angel's misspelling of your name. I do know the correct spelling, having appreciated the joke some time ago. Dbfirs 05:43, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Like Zenk, this ping worked fine the next day, so that also counts as ample penance. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:38, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Sheesh, enough real names?

Including all the real names of everyone mentioned, is that really necessary? I find it makes the article clumsy and hard to read. Certainly the subject of the page should have his real name mentioned at least once, but do we really need to know for the purposes of this article that, for instance, Larry Zbyszko's real name is Lawrence Whistler?76.234.129.219 (talk) 04:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

What's Zenk's cause of death?

I know Zenk died over a week ago. He has not been in the spot lights in many years since his retirement in 1996. I know he got arrested three times in 2005 for DUI, property damage and harassment/stalking. What did he die of/cause of death e.g. heart attack, suicide, or car accident, etc? I am surprised that WWE did not announce his death, WTH. This is not the first time other wrestlers e.g. Test, Viscera, and Umaga were not announced by WWE. WWE should have announced it because he appeared at Wresltemania III and had great matches in AWA and WCW. What a great wrestler such a shame!

Cause of death isn't public, but it's safe to assume cardiac and respiratory arrest. We still don't know what killed Brad Armstrong, either, or who killed Dino Bravo. But we know Zenk didn't leave the WWF on friendly terms. Sometimes when you mess with a company's future, the future company messes with you. I don't think we'll be hearing much from WWE when The Young Stallions die, either. But Umaga, Viscera and Test got blurbs. The first two have profiles. Test and the Stallions' pages say Access Denied. Zenk's just redirects. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:09, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Okay Dino Bravo was murdered in his Montreal home. We don't know why they believe it was a mafia attack. Vince McMahon "blacklists" people who leave his company on bad terms just like Jeff Jarrett. I don't think they will mention the deaths of Jarrett or other blacklist wrestlers, etc.

I think Jarrett'll get a mention. Even if they're still personally sour by then, WWE must appreciate all he and his dad have done, professionally. Without '90s Memphis and '00s TNA honing talent, the Federation would look much different today (and probably moreso tomorrow). Zenk, on the other hand, combined Tiger Beat looks and a solid leapfrog/dropkick. It's a good role to have, but nothing a Tito, Ricky, Marty, Tony, Tommy, Timmy, Billy, Jimmy, Bimmy or Sparky couldn't or didn't fill in a pinch. If you can guess which surnames those first names belong to, you make a damn fine '80s wrestling detective, but if you know who killed Bravo, you'll win my vote for '80s wrestling captain. One thing's for sure, WWE.com doesn't mention Johnny K-9 anywhere, despite five years in the company and a win over Randy Savage at Volunteer Slam III. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:47, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

I just realized Zenk and Pillman had the same coroner's office, if not the exact same coroner. Trippy. Took about 33 days to release a report the first time, if that's any indication. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:14, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

I just found the official cause of his death was due to arterial sclerosis and cardiomegaly, which means heart disease caused by an enlarged heart. Steroids and in particular, HGH usage over long periods of time leads to such things.

And I just learned Jeff Jarrett is headed to the WWE Hall of Fame. Weird timing. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:38, 25 February 2018 (UTC)