Talk:Tiffany & Co. flagship store

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A fact from Tiffany & Co. flagship store appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 March 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 2017 you could finally have breakfast at Tiffany's (pictured)?

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 18:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiffany's flagship

... that Tiffany Trump is named for the Tiffany & Co. flagship store (pictured)? Source: Stanley, Alessandra (October 1, 2016). "The Other Trump". The New York Times. "([Marla Maples] also confirmed that Tiffany was named for one of Mr. Trump’s favorite deals: the air rights he bought above the landmark store to build Trump Tower.)"
- ALT1:... that after Donald Trump bought the development rights above the Tiffany & Co. flagship store (pictured), he named his daughter Tiffany after the store? Source: "The Other Trump". The New York Times.
- ALT2:... that in 2017, you could finally have breakfast at Tiffany's? Source: Dorman, John L. (November 11, 2017). "Finally, You Can Have Breakfast at Tiffany". The New York Times.
- ALT3:... that the Tiffany & Co. flagship store's five storefront displays are changed about eight times a year and planned more than a year in advance? Source: Felder, Rachel (November 29, 2018). "At Tiffany's, It's All Party, Party, Party". The New York Times.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Guan Bee Ong
Comment: The image would not work too well for ALT2, or ALT3 for that matter.

Created by Ɱ (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 18:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

nice article, creation/additions check out and no sign of overt copyvio. Hooks, well I like the principal hook and I like ALT2 by far, both check out and I'll leave it to the promoter to decide if a quirky (ALT2) is needed at the time of a set creation. Only sticking point is the QPQ appears to have been queried. Once that's sorted, this is good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:39, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, thanks for the review. The issue in the QPQ review itself (Guan Bee Ong) was already fixed a few hours ago, I believe. I went for a walk and it was not only fixed but also promoted. Epicgenius (talk) 01:11, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

then all is just fine here. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Add new references here

https://www.designboom.com/architecture/oma-tiffany-new-york-flagship-store-fifth-avenue-05-19-2023/

$ɱ$ (talk) 03:24, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tiffany & Co. flagship store/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 14:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 18:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dibsing ♠PMC♠ (talk) 18:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Its five storefront displays, changed about eight times a year, have had various designers over their history" - not sure the final clause is necessary, seems obvious (if it were only one designer since 1940 that might be worth noting). Are there any notable designers that could be called out instead?
- I see from reading the body that Gene Moore did it for 40 years - that's worth saying, I think
  - Good point. I've added this to the lead. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"contains a facade of" - "has a facade of"
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Tiffany's sold the building in 1984" - did it continue to occupy as a renter during this time?
- Yes, it leased the structure from the then-owners. I've added bit. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
two sentences in a row start with "The rectangular land lot"
- Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The stack of two images on the left breaks the left header - any reason one or both can't be on the right?
- Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"A 2020s renovation replaced it" minor nitpick - "it" refers to the addition here, not the whole building? reads slightly ambiguously
- Yes, it refers to the original addition. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have so many contain/s/ed in this article. I reworded around 2 that were quite close to each other, but you may want to reword around a few others
- Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The flagship contains about 114,000 pieces of jewelry, including a $2.475 million engagement ring." - not sure the source justifies this statement. Does it always contain roughly this amount of jewelry? Is the engagement ring always there?
- I've removed this sentence. I'm not even sure how much jewelry the store contains right now (I couldn't find hard numbers from a reliable source), but the precise amount is subject to change, and the source is from before the building's renovation. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"better expressed the modern age" - according to whom? since you're quoting, should attribute in-text
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a light copyedit to the 2nd paragraph of the Atlas section, revert if you dislike
- Thanks for the review Premeditated Chaos. I've now addressed all the issues you raised above. Epicgenius (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - No problem, now time to finish it :)

"Merchandise such as jewelry" - maybe "Jewelry and other merchandise", just to get away from the "such as"? Also since their principal merch is jewelry, it puts the focus on that
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The store originally had forty artworks" originally when? I don't think it had Hirst in the 1940s when it originally opened
- Oops, I meant after the architect. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have Damien Hirst repeated and linked twice in the artists paragraph
- I removed the second link. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we know who the apple was by?
- I've added the architect. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You could probably use upright 1.1 or 1.2 on the 1942 image, it's fairly small
- For some reason it was using upright=0.75. I've removed the upright ratio. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have Cross and Cross instead of Cross & Cross a few times
- Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any idea why Cross & Cross closed? Was this building a drain on their finances?
- They closed because of World War II. I'm not sure whether to add this to the article though. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Since the closure as a whole is not related to the Tiffany building, I might remove the sentence entirely, so as to not inadvertently give the impression that it's related.
Can ditch "ultimately" without losing meaning
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The sale had been necessitated" this feels a bit redundant as you go on to explain in the next sentence that "Astor had been forced to sell"; I think you could probably trim and condense the sentences
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tax credit thing - I might explain what the credit was for, as right now it's kind of a net zero information thing
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is "Tiffany Company" actually a formal noun for the company? elsewhere you use Tiffany's or Tiffany & Co.
- It is not. I've changed this. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's it! All other factors looking good. Images are appropriately used and freely licensed, either from Flickr or own-work uploads. No concerns about CV, POV, etc. Random skim of accessible sources popped no significant errors. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for the review Premeditated Chaos. I've addressed the rest of the issues you raised above. Epicgenius (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- One note about the Cross & Cross closure, but nothing that holds up promotion. Another solid piece of work. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.