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Name

Is this town called Thornaby, or Thornaby-on-Tees? Andrew Duffell (talk) 13:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that its correct name is Thornaby-on-Tees, but it is generally and informally known as Thornaby for probably >99% of its usage. (I do hope that you were not holding your breath for a reply to this!) DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 07:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Population figure

Has anyone got a reference for the population figure quoted in the article? The recent change has nearly doubled the figure. According to the 2001 census the figure was 22,620 for the civil parish of Thornaby, I will change it to this soon unless anyone can come up with a reference for the higher figure. Keith D (talk) 15:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References, weasel words etc - can you help?

This is actually quite a nice article but it suffers horrendously from its lack of references and the use of weasel words such as "it is said..." and "it is stated..." Also, in a few places it gets very anecdotal and personal-sounding, almost like a blog. It's all stuff which could be good and appropriate but desperately needs references to back it up. It would be great if some well-informed local editors who know about this stuff - and where it comes from - could help out with some good refs for all this. I wish I could, but I am not sure I have much by way of books etc which could help and I am not up there! :( DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 08:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Crossing county boundaries

I'm not entirely convinced that Stockton is the only local authority that crosses county boundaries because I'm not sure what the original author means by "ceremonial county" anyway. Richmond LB is partly in Surrey and partly in Middlesex. County Durham itself has expanded to take in villages like Startforth in Teesdale that were historically in the North Riding. Sheffield spills over into historic Derbyshire. So I'm not convinced that there's any force in his point.Kranf (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is not referring to prior authorities but current authorities where it straddles County Durham and North Yorkshire. Keith D (talk) 19:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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Requires addition of inline references using one of the {{Cite}} templates
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Requires expansion on the today section, e.g. transport links, relevant media, education etc.

Keith D 18:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 18:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 08:41, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 2 November 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 22:10, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thornaby-on-Tees → Thornaby – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Chocolateediter (talk) 01:09, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose although the civil parish is called "Thornaby" alone the town is called "Thornaby-on-Tees". Also the former borough was "Thornaby on Tees". Yes the name is unique but that doesn't mean that we should remove part of the name similar to Widecombe in the Moor. Per WP:CONCISE we don't usually remove parts that are part of the formal name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:32, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Call it what it is called, not what somebody wants it to be called. (Hah. See the road sign currently in the gallery on the page!!!) -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 13:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree obviously and comment, this should count for Thornaby, Yarm, Norton, Stockton and others having “-on-Tees” suffix.

either have: Thornaby-on-Tees, Yarm-on-Tees, Norton-on-Tees, Stockton-on-Tees, etc

or: Thornaby, Yarm, “Norton, County Durham”, “Stockton, County Durham”, etc

All these links are noticeably to the same set of settlements.-edited Chocolateediter (talk) 22:32, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No Yarm and Norton don't have the suffix while Thornaby and Stockton do, that's just how it is, see the OS maps. Articles don't have to "copy cat" each other otherwise we'd need to move London and Reading, Berkshire to London-on-Thames and Reading-on-Thames because of Henley-on-Thames. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yarm and Norton do suffix -on-Tees to the same extent (expect on wiki) as Thornaby, Preston and Stockton so why should Thornaby, which does not need disambiguation, to be Thornaby-on-Tees. Henley needs would need disambiguation, otherwise this is another annoying case, London obviously doesn’t need disambiguation due to its importance as a place. Chocolateediter (talk) 23:43, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article has become farcical, with disruptive editing to say the least. Uniquely, in the modern (1974) Stockton Borough Council area, Thornaby-on-Tees was, and still is, the only town to have been made a borough by royal charter (under the name of Thornaby-on-Tees) in 1892 so, isn't this down to asking the Queen?

Thornaby-on-Tees is not, nor has it ever been a market town, it's a post industrial town which also had an RAF Station three mile south of the industrial area. Stockton, however, is a market town, which is what it was built for, incidentally, Stockton was actually in Norton, so do we change the name Stockton to Stockton Norton-on-Tees while we're at it? It is much older than Stockton, as is Thornaby.

There are also a lot of untruths, nonsenses and factual information carefully removed. For example, "South Stockton". Neither South Stockton (Yorkshire), nor Mandale (Yorkshire), were the original names of the area as captioned in the picture looking across the border from Stockton, why is that even there?. That area directly opposite Stockton was originally named Thornaby Carrs, Thornaby Town Council have a huge 1700's painting depicting the Thornaby Carrs in the foreground and Stockton can also be seen across the river. The settlement of Mandale was further toward Acklam where Mandale Mill was. The name South Stockton came about after the extension of the Stockton and Darlington Railway to Middlesbrough, Stockton tried to take control of it twice and failed twice. The name was first referenced by William Smith, who in 1825, the very year the Darlington to Stockton railway opened, named his new pottery "South Stockton", coincidence? The railway would have been headline news at the time, and far be it for me to cast aspersions on Mr. Smith, but could it be that he was he trying to cash in on the name? It became a short-lived parliamentary borough under this name in the 1860's but did not encompass Thornaby Village. This name does not appear in any OS maps before the mid to late 1800's, you will however, find both Thornaby and Mandale which were then in the Parish of Stainton, now in Middlesbrough council area.

It couldn't be more obvious that a certain editor certainly has a disdain for the town, and an incredible lack of knowledge - the residents have been asked recently by the Boundary Commission as to which side of the river, becks, streams etc they believe they should belong to, is this politically motivated editing?

i could go on and on correcting faults, but wouldn't it probably be wiser to contact Thornaby Town Council on this matter? That said, the name of the town is Thornaby-on-Tees, given to it by royal charter..

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Images

These need culling, far, far too many. I will sort what I think is important and lose what I deem to be not important. The joy of all things (talk) 11:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged the gallery, but this appears to have been removed. The gallery should be removed and the images distributed in the relevant place in the article as indiscriminate galleries are to be discouraged. Keith D (talk) 13:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Get rid of the gallery. images of big grass fields and road signs do not an encyclopeadia make. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 13:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just found all the photos (sign one is rubbish) I could find. The field and office shows a part of Thornaby and can be put when a paragraph talks about Mandale/ Stockton South. Town hall in governance. It should be then down to three or four. Chocolateediter (talk) 13:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]