Talk:The Villains of Valley View

Disney+ and Production Codes

So, Disney+ recently dropped the first five episodes, with the last one added before this Friday's linear premiere. I'm thinking we should try to add mention of that, like Ultra Violet & Black Scorpion. Plus, the DGE Press site listed production numbers for the upcoming episodes. Although, one reused the code and title for Episode 1. I checked the WGA site and the code for Episode 4 (105) lined up with the writer for that episode. But of course, that isn't a reliable source so I'm not one to talk. Though I think we should come to a decision about the Disney+ release. BrickMaster02 (talk) 19:10, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

The early release should definitely get a mention, hopefully the production code stuff sorts out. I'm pretty sure the Alice's Wonderland Bakery and Fancy Nancy have their early Disney+ releases mentioned on their pages too CreecregofLife (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Marking Actors as Absent for Playing Voice Roles

I would like to re-evaluate the habit of marking actors as absent simply because they played a voice role throughout the episode. Acting is acting whether it's live-action or voice role. And as long as you're credited and part of that episode through either role, then you're present.

Unlike the examples given in the I Am Frankie or Lab Rats cases where it's a passive voice over the phone or PA system, Malachi plays both a live-action and voice role in the show because part of his character is that he can shapeshift into objects that can talk. And that means he can do one or both roles in an episode as part of his role. So, when he goes on an entire episode doing a voice role, it is incorrect to say he is absent when he is literally part of the story and has multiple lines.

If Wikipedia didn't recognize voice acting as acting, then marking them as absent would make sense. But that's not the case and we shouldn't create our own rules against basic logic like that.

cc: @Amaury, IJBall, and Geraldo Perez:. Thank you.

— Starforce¹³ 20:35, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Voice acting is acting but getting credit for it is another issue. If character is voice-only in an episode but the actor normally credited for that character isn't credited, we really don't know who voiced the character, it could be a sound-alike person or the actor. Might just name the character in the note and say voice only without marking the actor for that character absent. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: For reference, this is the discussion I pointed to: User talk:Geraldo Perez/Archive 17#I Am Frankie – J.D. Ballard (Mr. Kingston). However, based on the explanation given by Starforce13, I could get behind not counting Malachi Barton as absent. In cases like Lab Rats, it's super easy, because Principal Perry isn't a main character and isn't even credited in that episode as a guest star. I don't remember if Michael Laurino is credited in that episode of I Am Frankie or not, because the series doesn't always credit main actors who are absent, but it sometimes still credits them, even if absent. Add: This is another regular series where actors are always credited, even if absent, which based on Starforce13's explanation, hasn't happened here yet. Like K.C. Undercover, Raven's Home, etc. The only difference with this series is that it doesn't have an actual opening title sequence for some reason. Amaury • 21:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

If you're not credited, that's a different story. But he's credited (as a regular cast) and plays a notable role in the episodes even in the voice capacity... unlike passive voices on the phone or PA system. And even if others are debatable, this character is specifically intended to be both voice role and live action role because of his shape-shifting ability. So, doing a voice role is literally part of his role and Colby's story arc.— Starforce¹³ 21:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Since he's credited for the episode and is portraying his normal role albeit voice only, presumption is he's acting in that episode. Similar would be showing up in an episode but not speaking, still gets considered acting in it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:04, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Superhero genre ?

Since the television series is dealing with supervillains, shouldn't the infobox mentions that the show belongs to the Superhero genre as well ? Or is it because the main characters are supervilains and not superheroes that it does not count ? Higher Further Faster (talk) 03:04, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2023

109.247.161.37 (talk) 06:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

34 | 15 Bad Influence Staring shows up in Valley View Amy in Oslo, Norway Jake and Colby ball bell Amy and Hartley shopping in Oslo, Norway Vic and Eva Ball Vic and Eva Tid Hartley seded and Amy Amy and Hartley utvetden Amy and Hartley seded Amy sieno Jake and Amy serf 35 | 16 A Tale of Two Havocs 36 | 17 The Return

 Not done: There is already a description for episode 34, and episodes 35 & 36 are already listed. GoingBatty (talk) 13:37, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Plot summaries

WP:TVPLOT says episode summaries should generally be between 100 to 200 words. For double-length episodes, we can double that to be between 200 to 400 words. Plot summaries that are significantly less than 100 words, I would recommend removing due to potential copyright. Anything significantly over 200 words, however, should not be removed, as it can be easily trimmed. Summaries that are just slightly under or over, such as 91 or 211 words, for example, is not a big deal.

In any case, the following episodes' summaries should be trimmed as much as possible:

Season 1:

• Episode 9: "Battle for My Brother": 300 words.
• Episode 10: "Unleash the Chaos": 315 words.
• Episode 18: "No Escape": 597 words. This one is a double length episode, so 200–400 words is okay, but even with that in mind, it is still too long in its current form.
• Episode 19: "How the Villains Stole Christmas": 386 words.

Season 2:

• Episode 1: "Villain Number One": 833 words. This one is a double length episode, so 200–400 words is okay, but even with that in mind, it is still way too long in its current form.
• Episode 3: "Dojo Mojo": 345 words.
• Episode 4: "Overnight Success": 420 words.
• Episode 5: "Party People": 427 words.
• Episode 6: "Vases, Volcanoes & the Green-Eyed Monster": 534 words.
• Episode 7: "Fired Up": 430 words.
• Episode 8: "The Scare" 415 words.
• Episode 9: "Family Secrets": 391 words.
• Episode 10: Power Struggle": 253 words
• Episode 11: "Hidden Hero": 447 words.
• Episode 12: "The Promposal": 437 words
• Episode 13: "The Haunted Jukebox": 573 words.
• Episode 14: "Guitar Hero": 493 words.
• Episode 15: "Bad Influence": 401 words.
• Episode 16: "A Tale of Two Havocs": 504 words.
• Episode 17: "The Return": 551 words.

Amaury • 09:50, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Is Season 2 Over?

A while back, I added to the episode infobox that Season 2 had concluded on December 1, only for Amaury to rvt it without explanation. Is it true that season is already over? Or do we have to wait for a reliable source? 27.33.111.126 (talk) 04:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

We need a reliable source that says the latest episode that aired is the season finale. Networks usually state that somewhere in their marketing and that can be used as a reference. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

I just wanted to know if they're coming back. I thought it was a good show 2601:19C:4A00:E750:F463:6EA7:8B10:A39B (talk) 23:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Per instruction, if 12 months has passed without update, the end date can be added saying when last episode premiered. It doesn't 100% mean the series has ended. Cwater1 (talk) 20:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Similar

Is it necessary to add that the show has a similar plot to The Thundermans where a family tries to live normal lives. Cwater1 (talk) 20:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)