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Al Arabiya, the state news agency of Saudi Arabia, has, on 7 October, 2020, released the final installment of a three-part interview with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi Ambassador to the United States during the period of the Clinton negotiations. While his overall views should be interpreted to reflect the governmental position of the Saudi government at the current moment, Prince Bandar makes firsthand assertions about the timeline of the negotiations and the positions of Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian leadership during the critical moments that lead to the agreement's unraveling at the end of the Clinton presidency. While existing sources in this article are enlightening and reflect the best understanding of this pivotal moment in history that we have, the previously unreleased firsthand accounts of the Saudi Ambassador regarding Arafat's approach to the negotiations and the US government's interpretation of that approach provides key supplementary insight into the reasons why the Clinton deal ultimately fell apart. Suggested change (addition) is as follows:

"On October 7, 2020, the former Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, asserted in an interview for the Saudi state media outlet Al Arabiya that Arafat ultimately accepted the agreement, and was holding out both for key revisions in the text and the support of regional Arab powers, to counter a perceived backlash from Syria. Ambassador bin Sultan claims that Arafat's delays had lead the Clinton administration to believe that he was rejecting the proposal, and that it shouldn't be passed along to the incoming Bush administration."

Source: "Exclusive interview - Part 3 | Prince Bandar bin Sultan on supporting Palestine but not its leaders" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTSrlONiDU Smertspionam (talk) 03:01, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Not sure where you want the addition. Like where on the page specifically do I add that paragraph? Also would not recommend using a Youtube source if ya can help it. GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 07:20, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete this section from the page ,enitrely unbased-

Others^[who?] argue that Clinton's parameters denied Palestinians what they were legally entitled to under international law,^{[citation needed]} specifically, sovereignty over the entirety of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Palestinian refugees' right of return to Israeli territory they inhabited before 1948 and dismemberment of Israeli settlements on Palestinian West Bank territory. Lambo0001 (talk) 21:32, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done per WP:RS and WP:NOR. Just for the record, I would have notified the editor that added the claim, but it was added by an anonymous editor that has not edited since (diff). — LauritzT (talk) 12:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Should the following content be included at the end of the "Acceptance and reservation" subsection? Is it a nice addition? Has it due weight? Or could we go without it? I'm undecided. Help? –Daveout(talk) 16:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ross quoted Saudi Prince Bandar as saying while negotiations were taking place in December: "If Arafat does not accept what is available now, it won't be a tragedy; it will be a crime."^[1]

References

^ Landau, David (2014). Arik: The Life of Ariel Sharon. Random House. ISBN 9781400042418.

–Daveout(talk) 16:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Landau, David (2014). Arik: The Life of Ariel Sharon. Random House. ISBN 9781400042418.

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